Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 4. (Read 54898 times)

You may not see the need for the strain for three points but for Liverpool it doesn't just end at the three points and staying at the top of the table but setting a record is also part of it all , so they can possibly decide to strain to get the complete three points and have a Fri feet at the top of the table while they also attempt pitching a record with the new UCL format. except the the premier league gets placed above the UCL for Liverpool then we could anticilatsßv

Looks like the bookies are unphased by Man City's recent 4 losses streak and still see them as a favourite for raising the cup.
As of today, the odds for the outright winner (per duelbits) are as follows:

Man City x4.50
Real Madrid x5.60
Barcelona x6.60
Liverpool x7.00
Bayern München x10.00
Arsenal x10.00
Inter x19.00
Bayer Leverkusen x29.00
Paris Saint-Germain x40.00
Aston Villa x40.00
Atalanta x40.00
Sporting x40.00
Borussia Dortmund x40.00
Juventus x40.00
Atletico Madrid x50.00
AC Milan x70.00
Monaco x80.00
Lille x100.00
Benfica x120.00
PSV x150.00
Brest x200.00
Celtic x240.00
Stuttgart x240.00
Feyenoord x250.00
RB Leipzig x300.00
Club Brugge x350.00
FC Shakhtar Donetsk x500.00
Girona x700.00
Bologna x700.00
Sparta Prague x800.00
Dinamo Zagreb x800.00
Salzburg x800.00
Young Boys x2500.00
Sturm Graz x2500.00
Red Star x4000.00
Slovan Bratislava x4000.00

Do you see any dark horse with massive odds that could actually win the whole thing?
Dinamo Zagreb is x800 and are currently placed 16th, so above teams like Bayern, Real Madrid or Milan. It could be worth putting $1 bet on them  

Liverpool are having a spectacular season with Arne Slot at the realm of affairs but this doesn’t make them exceptional or unbeatable. Real Madrid might be actually having a bad start to the season but you don’t rule them out in the champions league. Real Madrid have many things at stake than Liverpool in this game with a loss in the match their direct qualification by finishing top 8 will all but be gone which I don’t think they will want because going through the playoffs is another extra games that clubs will try to avoid. Moreover Liverpool has been beaten this season by Nottingham Forest at Anfield and Madrid also aren’t new to that stadium, Madrid have been their and have won in that stadium and as such I expect them to go there and try to win.

I think Liverpool is very lucky because they are playing against Real Madrid while Real Madrid is not in the form. However, Real Madrid is always a dangerous team, no matter if they are in good form or not. I think since Real Madrid got many injured players and they are far from the good days they had before, Liverpool can have a good chance to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League.
Real Madrid was always the best team in this tournament, but currently, Liverpool is the best team in the Premier League, and they can even have the potential to beat Real Madrid.

These things don't happen often, but the fact that they do and almost always play into Real's hands is a fact. But nothing can be done about it, until they are found to be doing it deliberately everyone will just forget about it a week after the match. In such cases there is only one way out - to beat Real Madrid in this match, that no decisions of the referee could not affect the outcome of the match.

I think the suggestion you gave is the best, because with all the ups and downs I have seen so far in this champions league I doubt that I will ever make a bet on 1x2 market again, I mean it seems the teams are just not serious to win or something so betting more of the goal would be more preferable and better too.

As for Real Madrid I was all in on this particular issue their facing now to be their problem when the season started and if not anything but just for the fact that the entire football world was saying mbappe is gonna make them invincible which is certainly not the case now.

Liverpool might be having the best of there season yet, in the FPL and UCL alike as opposed to Real Madrid that are having difficulty in coordinating there play to play more like a team together, I find them(Real Madrid) to be still formidable as ever, Liverpool needs to exercise extreme caution when they face Real Madrid because, they remain the UCL specialist and it doesn’t matter what team they are up against. They just do enough to qualify each time.

It would make a risky bet dwelling in the win 1x2 market. A more goal approach would be best as both teams are supposedly a scoring side. Jude would be looking out for something to prove to the home fans as a visiting team.

I do not doubt Real Madrid's performance because in the Champions League they will easily turn their performance around to be better. Yes, lately there has been a lot of speculation that Real Madrid will be doubted to become champions this season because they think Real Madrid's performance has declined this season. But in my opinion they are too early to judge Real Madrid's performance because the Champions League still has many stages to go through so judging early is very unreasonable.

Even in terms of strength, Real Madrid has quite good strength with the quality players they have. But so far I have doubted Mbappe's performance because he has had relatively difficulty showing his best performance with Real Madrid. But as time goes by I admit that Real Madrid will be much stronger compared to the current situation.

Real Madrid is quite different from the team you mentioned at the top that has won consecutively in the Champions League and the league. Also, there are many competitive teams in Europe this year, the Champions League may not be as easy for them this year as you say. Ancelotti needs to produce something new, to win consecutively as you say. Otherwise, they have a lot of players with good capacity.

Knowing well that Real Madrid's performance is not as good as we expected doesn’t mean that they will continue having the same performance till the end of the season. And we all know that in the Champions League, it is not only about your performance but also experience, and Real Madrid has both in full, so it is something that is worth being considered. Although you have also mentioned that Real Madrid is the only team that has a total of 15 trophies so far in the Champions League, so that still means they have the chance of winning this season still.

Real Madrid's performance has not been as good as last season so far and expecting them to win the Champions League title this season is a bit doubtful. Fans will still hope that Real Madrid is a team capable of defending its title this season, but it would be completely unreasonable to always let this team win the Champions League title instead of another team.

Several teams that have performed well this season have a good chance of winning the title and one of them is Liverpool. Manchester City also doesn't escape my attention, although so far Manchester City has been unstable, but Real Madrid still shouldn't be ignored even though its performance has been inconsistent. Real Madrid has won 15 Champions League titles in history, they are the best team in this competition.

It is undeniable that for the beginning of this season Liverpool is still more consistent than Madrid and anyone can still see that for now Madrid's performance still has problems that Ancelotti still cannot solve properly until now.

But when talking about luck, mentality and of course the quality of players then everything still looks the same so for the final result I think this will still be difficult to guess even though from the early season performance Liverpool is still better than Madrid.

Madrid's condition cannot be underestimated even though performance and injured players are a problem but they are still Madrid with all the superior forms they have, especially seeing their h2h from several previous matches in the Champions League we can see that Madrid can always beat Liverpool with a large enough score so this can be a consideration that Madrid also has a great chance for this match.

There is a lot of challenge and competition in the Champions League this season. Most of the teams are very ready to see they made it to the title of the Champions League this season, but for me, I still have hope in Real Madrid more than other teams, even though I know for now they are still struggling in their performances, but as we all know, when Real Madrid starts having victories in their games, it will be very hard for them to stop. Moreover, we all know that Real Madrid is one of the teams with the best experience in the Champions League, and they also have a good number of talented players that will lead them to victory in this season.

As you said,  even though Madrid is currently in a big problem because they are still struggling to maintain the performance and condition of several players who are injured,  Madrid is still Madrid where they can always show their existence as a big club.  Although the difference now feels quite big where Liverpool is still quite good compared to Madrid but looking at the statistics and h2h matches of these two clubs it is clear Madrid is still quite dominatin for Liverpool .

This could indeed be an opportunity for Liverpool to carry out a revenge mission after in the last few matches they had to lose to Madrid but on the other hand of course this is not an easy thing so I think this match is quite interesting to wait for. I actually still expect the same scheme for Madrid as in the previous few seasons when beating Liverpool but on the other hand this match could be difficult to predict.

But at least, Liverpool managed to beat Milan at the San Siro with a score of 1-3 but, Real Madrid lost to Milan at the Santiago Bernabeu with a score of 1-3 as well. Indeed, these results cannot be used as a full benchmark but at least, with these results it can also be a consideration to analyze their performance so far this season. Because at least, based on the odds available at this time also that Liverpool have quite favored odds. But even so, that does not mean I underestimate Real Madrid but indeed, at this moment Liverpool clearly has good results in the Premier League and in the Champion League, so it is not surprising that based on the odds that Liverpool is also a favorite team for this match later.

But indeed, it will be a different assessment if we consider about their head to head results as well. Because in fact, Liverpool and Real Madrid also meet quite often in the Champion League, but in fact Real Madrid has a good dominance of victory when playing against Liverpool in the Champion League. With these factors, then of course Real Madrid as the best team in the world will still have a chance to thwart Liverpool at Anfield. But maybe also, with the conditions and situation of Real Madrid like this, maybe it will also make Liverpool will maximize completely to successfully defeat Real Madrid later. Who knows.

As far as I know, Real Madrid is only very strong when they can reach the final round. When they play in the final round, it is very difficult to defeat them. They can prove it many times, kindly check their final UCL match history. However, before they reach the final, Real Madrid play as common teams. They were often defeated by other teams, too. Well, for this season, I am also not so sure with Real Madrid chance to win it. Real Madrid performance is decreasing a bit, they have some serious problems. If they can't deal with those problems, it is unlikely to reach the final round.

Yep, it is the fact that Liverpool could play more consistently. So far, Liverpool becomes the only team that always wins the match. They got 0 lose, 0 draw. Their stats is 100% win. If they can finish the league phase with 100% win, they are the most candidate for the champion this season. Arne Slot does a great job in his first season. TBH, I really don't expect this, in the early of the season I guessed Slot will get difficulty to continue Klopp's great seasons in Liverpool.

It is clear that Liverpool are favourites in the upcoming game, but this does not mean that they will try to take the full three points. They have practically guaranteed themselves a place in the top 8, why should they strain themselves/risk if a draw suits them just fine? There is no difference between 1st or 3rd-4th-5th place. In parallel, every point in the Premier League is worth all the gold, I think that they are focusing primarily on the Premier League now.

Hmmm, that's true mate, but you need to understand that this season Real Madrid have lost so many players in the injuries; suspect all of their crucial players got injured. So this point in front of us makes us hesitate about Real Madrid as well their recent inconsistent performance too. Despite on the other side we can clearly see it that Liverpool have just dominated the league as well as the UEFA champions league under their coach Arne Slot. This season Liverpool are at the top of the league table while real Madrid are second on league standings and they are 6 points behind the top.
 
Indeed real Madrid have a good H2H record against Liverpool but monitoring all these perspectives makes me feel stalled about real Madrid. So I will go for Liverpool because I didn't see any skeptical points in real Madrid depths. But let's see what's happened next...

Clubs such as Manchester United, AC Milan, Bologna, RB Leipzig, Chelsea, and Bayer Leverkusen are not small clubs. These teams have some of the best players and coaches and are also doing well in their various leagues. Liverpool is currently one of the best teams in Europe. Even Real Madrid and Manchester City are not in very good form now. City have lost straight four games while Real Madrid is behind Barcelona in La Liga. And Madrid is facing so many injury problems which has made Carlo Ancelotti have limited players to select from. I will bet on the Reds when they meet the two teams you think will defeat them.

That's the way it is, no referee's decision can be contested even if their mistake is proven at a later time. Even with VAR technology, referees can still make mistakes and this doesn't only happen in matches involving Real Madrid. I don't blame Real Madrid in this situation, but several big teams including Real Madrid and others often benefit from referee decisions that appear to be biased.

If you forget, just remember the mistakes made by the referee in the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match in the last few seasons and this is still new compared to the Barcelona vs Chelsea match.