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August 05, 2024, 01:50:42 AM
Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.
In fact, it was like a curse experienced by Kane throughout his career. Since with Spurs, even though Kane became the biggest scorer player, he had never gotten any title and now after Munich, he also got the same results. But if we think realistically, it is not a curse because Kane has a satisfying appearance on UCL or in the domestic league as we know at this time he is still a very reliable scorer, right?


Kane is a great player but so far as far as I can remember he hasn't won a single trophy and of course I also sometimes always wonder because he is a good player and he always endangers his opponent's defense when he plays but yes the point is that up to now luck hasn't come his way and of course he can Of course, next time Hary Kane will be able to win a trophy with his club, yes, I personally don't want to blame Kane because of course this is just a coincidence and maybe it's not the time yet and of course we'll see in the future whether Kane will be able to win the trophy or not. in the coming season.

Indeed, Kane has move move. clubs but he has not won the title and his performance at Euro 2024 he also failed to win the title but I am also sure that Kane is not cursed and the proof is that he has played very well until now but I hope that one day he will can get a trophy. in the Champions League or domestic league and of course at the age of 31 there is still time for him to win a trophy and hopefully before he retires he will have sweet memories of being able to win a trophy.
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August 05, 2024, 12:18:12 AM
Luis Enrique is a winner manager. Therefore I understand people who are believing in him. He won the Champions League title with Barcelona in the past you know.  Wink

However he has a really tough job to do now. He isn't managing prime Barcelona anymore. PSG also has really talented players of course but they are still not ready enough to go for the title in this tournament. As of Mbappe's departure, we don't know how they will perform in the Champions League yet. I don't want to mean like they will be worse of course. Because it is all about having a good team play. Then not having Mbappe won't matter that much.  Smiley

Im feeling pessimistic for PSG in the new format of UCL. Though PSG has unlimited money, Enrique is still struggling to find the right mix for his squad. It's getting worse after Mbappe decided to leave the club. And as a football fan, I'm skeptical about PSG's performance in the new UCL format. It requires them to play longer than last season. If Enrique can maximize the squad's talents, they will do better than last season. However, we must admit Mbappe's huge contribution to PSG last season. So, I have lowered my expectations for PSG.

I can't really expect Goncalo Ramos and Kolo Muani to have big contribution like mbappe. This is because Muani and Goncalo's total goals are still far below Mbappe's total last season.


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August 05, 2024, 12:10:42 AM
It's so retarded that every team has to blame their coach for their losses when they forgot the  coach isn't playing the damn ball, it's the players playing the ball though some fault could come out as a result of coach mistakes but let's be precise  most teams have the fault of 30% from coach and the remaining 70%comes from the player not performing upto the task. Besides, most of this team lacks discipline which is why coaches can't control players sometimes, some don't even play according to script... what  do you expect the coach to do?? Go too hard and get fired. This is the main reason Pep won't go to some clubs because they lack discipline.... that was by the way actually, I believe they should perform better this time around,  I really wan Harry to have a trophy .
Why do you say that and isn't it the coach who sets the strategy before playing and isn't the coach who replaces players who are not playing optimally in that match. The coach shows the direction of the game and because the coach is the one who makes the club more successful although it is not ignored that the coaching staff and players also have their respective roles. If a player makes a mistake then it is appropriate for the coach to take action to replace the player and I think the coach is important because his presence creates the strategy or substitution of players needed.

There are many factors that can cause a team to accept defeat, be it player errors, lack of good strategy implemented by the coach or there could be other factors. Everyone has their own role to achieve success at the club that's why they need to work together collectively during matches or in routine training sessions.
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August 04, 2024, 10:56:56 PM
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Although many people think that the curse on Harry Kane continues to apply wherever he plays in a big club, whether it is true or not, many people believe that it always happens to Harry Kane. Honestly, I am not so convinced by the curse. I hope Harry Kane can prove to everyone that he can win the German Bundesliga title this season. If we talk about the Champions League, nothing is impossible for a club like Bayern Munich, even the smallest club can do it if luck is on their side. Even though many clubs have the most expensive players, if there is no luck, it is useless to have expensive players.
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August 04, 2024, 10:41:43 PM
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Man, I feel very bad for Kane. He definitely is one of the best strikers this generation has seen, and it's not on him that he hasn't won a trophy yet. He goes so close every time, innit?

I think this season will be one to watch for him. If the team does not show him good promise, he should look for a better move. Because Bayern management right now looks under pressure, they got Tuchel, sacked him, and now had to settle for Kompany. Who knows, maybe they can turn around from here. Maybe Kompany is not experienced on paper, but I think he will prove a lot of people wrong. Very interesting things to unfold.

There is perhaps no striker as unlucky as Harry Kane in modern times. He is one of the best strikers of the present time. But he failed to win the title. Harry Kane also had a great performance with Tottenham. But Tottenham did not have a squad fit to dominate the Premier League. So even with Harry Kane performing well, it was a big challenge for Tottenham to stay in the top four of the Premier League.

So when Harry Kane joined Bayern Munich's squad, we thought Kane might be able to win the title this time around. But even with Kane in great form last season, Bayern Munich failed to win any titles. The team failed to win the Champions League title. At the same time, the Bayern Munich team has lost its dominance in the Bundesliga after a long time. Bayern Munich has fallen to third place in the table.

I look forward to seeing how Bayern Munich perform next season with the help of Vincent Kompany. Kompany is not an experienced coach. So I don't think Bayern Munich will dominate the Champions League next season. However, Munich will definitely be considered hot favorites to win the Bundesliga title.
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August 04, 2024, 10:23:47 PM
Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.
This is clearly not Harry Kane's fault he is at a club that is not very likely to win the title (Tottenham Hotspur) we all know how tight the Premier League competition is and many clubs have the best players in it Tottenham Hotspur have never been a strong candidate for the Premier League title for years so Harry Kane also can't fight alone for his club even though he is the best player at the club. Currently he is at a club that has the potential to win the Bundesliga title and also the Champions League if he can stay a little longer at Bayern Munich he might get it soon.

Blaming everything on tuchel was never the best thing to do, especially with the fact that he's been in Bayern for just a season, he was yet to get fully in perfect feet with the team but then he was trying to see how well his strategy could get the some good feet's by the end of the season, only to get some poor result but he got some good experience alongside, I'm of the opinion if he had stayed a bit longer, he would have been a threat to xabi Alonsos team.

I think Thomas Tuchel's coaching system is actually almost the same as the Bayern Munich coach before in his mind he might be able to give Bayern Munich the domestic title because he doesn't see Leverkusen as a threat and Bayern Munich's arch rivals have always been Dortmund but still their performance is not as strong as Bayern Munich but who would have thought Leverkusen's appearance really surprised everyone and made Bayern Munich exhausted because they couldn't balance their strengths and Leverkusen also played 34 games without losing and that's a rare miracle.
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August 04, 2024, 09:19:02 PM
Harry Kane really showed a great performance last season, he was the top scorer of Bundesliga. If he failed to win a trophy, it is not his mistake. Bayern Munich couldn't perform well as a team. Some people said Tuchel should take the responsibility of the failure because Tuchel failed to provide a proper tactic and couldn't make a good mentality among the players. Yes, we couldn't blame Harry Kane, he already worked hard last season.
Kane is a good striker and he has more skills than a traditional striker so that he can contribute very good key passes, assists for his teammates. He continues to fight and I believe that destiny will not be too tough for him. Maybe he will not win Champions League, Euro or World Cup but win titles like Bundesliga is very possible, especially he is playing for a biggest club in Germany, Bayern Munich.

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Now, with Kompany, we may have a new hope for a better performance of Bayern Munich. But many people doubt it because Kompany still has lack of experience in managing big teams. It is the first time Kompany managing a big team like Bayern Munich, people assume he is still unproven as a top manager/coach. However, I think we can give the time for Kompany to show his best. If he can lead Bayern Munich to get positive results in the early season, I think we can trust him to lead Bayern Munich competing for the title again.
Kompany has a successful player career and absorbed many great lessons from his coaches. He is a smart man as shown through his player career and if he can show it with a new position as a head coach, I believe Kompany will succeed as a coach too. Bayern Munich actually saw some good things from Kompany to decide hiring him and with targets are nothing than titles, Bundesliga and Champions League.

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Anyway, if we look at the results of pre-season matches. Kompany could show quite good results.  Smiley
It's good signal for a coming season with Kompany as Bayern Munich's head coach even it is a biggest club for him at this position. A great player must debut as a a youth player and a legendary coach must start as a young coach with not significant record. Kompany is at very first beginnging steps of his coach career and Bayern Munich can be a milestone for his career.
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August 04, 2024, 07:36:56 PM

Harry Kane really showed a great performance last season, he was the top scorer of Bundesliga. If he failed to win a trophy, it is not his mistake. Bayern Munich couldn't perform well as a team. Some people said Tuchel should take the responsibility of the failure because Tuchel failed to provide a proper tactic and couldn't make a good mentality among the players. Yes, we couldn't blame Harry Kane, he already worked hard last season.

Now, with Kompany, we may have a new hope for a better performance of Bayern Munich. But many people doubt it because Kompany still has lack of experience in managing big teams. It is the first time Kompany managing a big team like Bayern Munich, people assume he is still unproven as a top manager/coach. However, I think we can give the time for Kompany to show his best. If he can lead Bayern Munich to get positive results in the early season, I think we can trust him to lead Bayern Munich competing for the title again.

Anyway, if we look at the results of pre-season matches. Kompany could show quite good results.  Smiley



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It's so retarded that every team has to blame their coach for their losses when they forgot the  coach isn't playing the damn ball, it's the players playing the ball though some fault could come out as a result of coach mistakes but let's be precise  most teams have the fault of 30% from coach and the remaining 70%comes from the player not performing upto the task. Besides, most of this team lacks discipline which is why coaches can't control players sometimes, some don't even play according to script... what  do you expect the coach to do?? Go too hard and get fired. This is the main reason Pep won't go to some clubs because they lack discipline.... that was by the way actually, I believe they should perform better this time around,  I really wan Harry to have a trophy.
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August 04, 2024, 06:59:51 PM
After Harry Kane's incredible debut season for Bayern Munich where he scored a total of 44 goals, I find it funny to see that some people are of the opinion that it was his presence that caused the club's failure to win a trophy last season. As a striker, Harry Kane's major work was to score goals for his club which he perfectly executed that what's required of him so if there's anyone that should be blamed for Bayern Munich's poor campaign, it should be the club's former manager Thomas Tuchel who failed to make good use of the team.
Bayern Munich now have a new manager in Vincent Kompany and I strongly believe he'll improve the team's performance ahead of next season as well as winning at least one major trophy fir the club
Harry Kane really showed a great performance last season, he was the top scorer of Bundesliga. If he failed to win a trophy, it is not his mistake. Bayern Munich couldn't perform well as a team. Some people said Tuchel should take the responsibility of the failure because Tuchel failed to provide a proper tactic and couldn't make a good mentality among the players. Yes, we couldn't blame Harry Kane, he already worked hard last season.

Now, with Kompany, we may have a new hope for a better performance of Bayern Munich. But many people doubt it because Kompany still has lack of experience in managing big teams. It is the first time Kompany managing a big team like Bayern Munich, people assume he is still unproven as a top manager/coach. However, I think we can give the time for Kompany to show his best. If he can lead Bayern Munich to get positive results in the early season, I think we can trust him to lead Bayern Munich competing for the title again.

Anyway, if we look at the results of pre-season matches. Kompany could show quite good results.  Smiley



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August 04, 2024, 06:08:25 PM
The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
After Harry Kane's incredible debut season for Bayern Munich where he scored a total of 44 goals, I find it funny to see that some people are of the opinion that it was his presence that caused the club's failure to win a trophy last season. As a striker, Harry Kane's major work was to score goals for his club which he perfectly executed that what's required of him so if there's anyone that should be blamed for Bayern Munich's poor campaign, it should be the club's former manager Thomas Tuchel who failed to make good use of the team.
Bayern Munich now have a new manager in Vincent Kompany and I strongly believe he'll improve the team's performance ahead of next season as well as winning at least one major trophy fir the club
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August 04, 2024, 06:07:17 PM

Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final
Blaming everything on tuchel was never the best thing to do, especially with the fact that he's been in Bayern for just a season, he was yet to get fully in perfect feet with the team but then he was trying to see how well his strategy could get the some good feet's by the end of the season, only to get some poor result but he got some good experience alongside, I'm of the opinion if he had stayed a bit longer, he would have been a threat to xabi Alonsos team.
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August 04, 2024, 05:58:50 PM
Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.
In fact, it was like a curse experienced by Kane throughout his career. Since with Spurs, even though Kane became the biggest scorer player, he had never gotten any title and now after Munich, he also got the same results. But if we think realistically, it is not a curse because Kane has a satisfying appearance on UCL or in the domestic league as we know at this time he is still a very reliable scorer, right?

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I won't overthink it because Bayern Munich were in decline while Leverkusen were at their peak with Xabi Alonso, even coach Tuchel couldn't catch Leverkusen's points in the Bundesliga, last season they lost their chance and next season they won't let it happen again.
Not entirely Tuchel mistake but this is only about the mistakes of the two parties between the defense players and the coach. Look at the last season, Bayern Munich can still score a big score but they are conceded.

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For the Champion League tournament, Bayern Munich is still a big team that is widely favored, but about talking about who the winner will be, it is still difficult to guess, we don't know how Bayern Munich plays in the hands of Vincent Kompany.
It's too early to say about this, but everyone already has their respective opinions even though I do not doubt Bayern Munich but it looks like Real Madrid will return to get the UCL title this season.
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August 04, 2024, 05:15:50 PM
The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Of course, it's not his fault, but what we saw in Bayern Munich's game last season was that they underestimated their opponents so they couldn't compete with Leverkusen. This does not mean that Bayern Munich's failure last season was Harry Kane's fault for failing to become champions, but it was purely the fault of all the players, both coaches and management. Fans have to accept the fact that they won't always be able to win the trophy because other teams also continue to compete by improving the quality of their game as Leverkusen has done.

So for the Champions League, of course Bayern Munich is a team that is quite strong with the depth of their strength. However, the Champions League is not easy to predict because when faced with other strong teams, Bayern Munich failed to win the match, as happened last season when Real Madrid managed to beat Bayern Munich.
Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.

I won't overthink it because Bayern Munich were in decline while Leverkusen were at their peak with Xabi Alonso, even coach Tuchel couldn't catch Leverkusen's points in the Bundesliga, last season they lost their chance and next season they won't let it happen again.

For the Champion League tournament, Bayern Munich is still a big team that is widely favored, but about talking about who the winner will be, it is still difficult to guess, we don't know how Bayern Munich plays in the hands of Vincent Kompany.
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August 04, 2024, 04:03:38 PM
The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Of course, it's not his fault, but what we saw in Bayern Munich's game last season was that they underestimated their opponents so they couldn't compete with Leverkusen. This does not mean that Bayern Munich's failure last season was Harry Kane's fault for failing to become champions, but it was purely the fault of all the players, both coaches and management. Fans have to accept the fact that they won't always be able to win the trophy because other teams also continue to compete by improving the quality of their game as Leverkusen has done.

So for the Champions League, of course Bayern Munich is a team that is quite strong with the depth of their strength. However, the Champions League is not easy to predict because when faced with other strong teams, Bayern Munich failed to win the match, as happened last season when Real Madrid managed to beat Bayern Munich.
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August 04, 2024, 03:57:50 PM

It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.

Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final
The burden of a coach is heavy because of course there are many demands from many parties, including club management, fans so it is natural that Tuchel is blamed, the proof is that when he failed he was fired and replaced by Vincent Kompany, even if the management is bad it is still the coach who suffers.

Indeed, not all mistakes on the coach sometimes other factors affect it, such as many injured players, this could make it difficult for the coach to carry out a strategy, so he could set another strategy because some players must be absent.

I think, even though the squad problem is injured Bayern Munch should still be able to survive and beat Leverkusen but the proof is that they are not able to do that.
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August 04, 2024, 03:50:53 PM
The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Harry Kane is a professional player and he totally understands the guilt he feels each time his team fails to win a trophy. Perhaps we all think when he decided to move to Bayern Munich, we all thought he will lift the bundesliga title in his first season and probably win treble, but reverse was the case. There we have it, the Harry Kane’s curse which have haunted the Englishman for years. Kane have found it extremely difficult to win major titles with his current and former club, it extends to the country, England where he has qualified for Euro finals twice in a row and completely defeated. So sad Harry Kane have to carry this burden.
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August 04, 2024, 03:44:20 PM
The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.

Manuel Neuer could not reach his previous performance after his injury. Also, the defensive signings failed to adapt to the team. Kim Min Jae didn't perform as well at Bayern Munich as he did at Napoli. But I think Bayern Munich have been on a downward trend since Robben and Ribery left the team. They need quality players to reach their previous level. And they have a very good squad today. But they don't have the legendary players of the past years. They can win a trophy in the Champions League. They always have a chance. But even in the Bundesliga, they are unlikely to be champions compared to previous years. That's why I think they are also unlikely to be champions in the Champions League.
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I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
Even though Bayern Munich’s last season Bundesliga performance is not that good, we cannot use that to judge their Champions League expectations for next season because despite having a bad season, they were able to reach the semifinals in the last season’s Champions League which means they also have Champions League experience.

Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and others including Arsenal looks like teams  to be considered before Bayern Munich in selecting the favorites to win the title especially because Kompany is a new coach who is having his first big team experience at Bayern Munich; while all these teams I mentioned have done very well and have some experience in the tournament as well as in the Champions League. Therefore, I am also counting Bayern out of the Champions League title chase this season.

I don't know, I wouldn't rule them out a priori in the likely Champions League final victory. Bayern Munich has a very respectable and very strong and competitive team, even the eventual draws could lend a hand in pushing them all the way to the bottom of the competition. Of course having a rookie coach doesn't help much but we don't know exactly what Kompany is made of
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August 04, 2024, 03:35:16 PM
Luis Enrique is a winner manager. Therefore I understand people who are believing in him. He won the Champions League title with Barcelona in the past you know.  Wink

However he has a really tough job to do now. He isn't managing prime Barcelona anymore. PSG also has really talented players of course but they are still not ready enough to go for the title in this tournament. As of Mbappe's departure, we don't know how they will perform in the Champions League yet. I don't want to mean like they will be worse of course. Because it is all about having a good team play. Then not having Mbappe won't matter that much.  Smiley
The main reason why PSG hire Luis Enrique is because they want champion league trophy this because previously he can gets this trophy with Barcelona but some of people are considers Luis Enrique didn't help a lot because even without him Barcelona can able to gets champion league trophy because at that time Barcelona was filled with plenty of world class players such as Iniesta, Xavi and Lionel Messi so if we see based on the composition of the squad Barcelona can get trophies easily whoever the coach is

If we talking about Luis Enrique more i think his debut season with PSG is run well because PSG can able to defend the title of Ligue 1 and gets France Cup trophy and in Champion League PSG performance i think is good because on group phase they can escape from hell group and almost reach to the final match but unfortunately for semifinal match PSG have to lost twice from Dortmund and eliminate

Next season people didn't including PSG as the favourite this because currently they don't have Mbappe who leave to Real Madrid and until now PSG hasn't gets any replacement of this player yet so Luis Enrique have to bought some players immediatelly before summer transfer window closed and next season PSG will face new era without Mbappe and with new format of champion league i would like to see how far they can go in this competition
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I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
Even though Bayern Munich’s last season Bundesliga performance is not that good, we cannot use that to judge their Champions League expectations for next season because despite having a bad season, they were able to reach the semifinals in the last season’s Champions League which means they also have Champions League experience.

Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and others including Arsenal looks like teams  to be considered before Bayern Munich in selecting the favorites to win the title especially because Kompany is a new coach who is having his first big team experience at Bayern Munich; while all these teams I mentioned have done very well and have some experience in the tournament as well as in the Champions League. Therefore, I am also counting Bayern out of the Champions League title chase this season.
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