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August 07, 2024, 06:50:52 AM
Lille had a very very lucky day. Both of those goals were pure luck, not more than that. But Fenerbahçe still lost by only one goal at least. This means there is hope for them in the rematch.

Dzeko had a really bad day. He wasted important opportunities to score. Saint-Maximin also wasted critical chances because of being selfish in a place he shouldn't have been.

But I would agree Fenerbahçe defense is still not in good condition.  Sad  They are giving big spaces and Lille could have really scored more. I liked Livakovic this time by the way. He made really nice saves.

Mourinho expectedly tried to hold on to a draw, but it turned out to be even more difficult than expected. Now in the return match everything will change, Lille will go to Turkey to avoid losing and this will be enough for them to reach the group stage of the Champions League. As in the previous matches, Fenerbahce's main problem is their defense, I think that Mourinho will pay attention to this, because he always emphasizes a defensive strategy.

Dynamo, unfortunately, also could not hold on to the winning score and conceded in extra time in the 94th minute. This is bad because it will be more difficult for them away, despite the fact that the first match was also formally not on their field, but the return match will be played in Glasgow and Rangers will have good support from their fans.
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August 07, 2024, 06:49:17 AM
Lille had a very very lucky day. Both of those goals were pure luck, not more than that. But Fenerbahçe still lost by only one goal at least. This means there is hope for them in the rematch.

Dzeko had a really bad day. He wasted important opportunities to score. Saint-Maximin also wasted critical chances because of being selfish in a place he shouldn't have been.

But I would agree Fenerbahçe defense is still not in good condition.  Sad  They are giving big spaces and Lille could have really scored more. I liked Livakovic this time by the way. He made really nice saves.
It was a great night for Livakovic. If he hadn't had a good day, Fenerbahçe could have suffered a very different defeat. They left the field with at least a one-goal defeat in France. Irfan Can Kahveci scored a beautiful free kick. After the free kick, Yusuf Dikeç made an epic celebration for the goal. Just when the match was about to end in a draw, a shot that hit the defense scored a goal for Fenerbahçe. The return leg is in Istanbul and they still have a chance to turn the match around as they will be the hosts.
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August 07, 2024, 05:12:49 AM
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Last season was a challenging season for Real Madrid but they were most successful in that season so they have no reason to worry about next season. Their squad lacked a main striker after the departure of Karim Benzema which has been filled in this transfer window. They signed Jude Bellingham and at that time Jude Bellingham joined Real Madrid as a midfielder but Real Madrid turned him into a striker. 

At the Euros we saw Bellingham perform as the main striker for the England national team. Real Madrid have recruited a great man in their finishing position as well as having two of the best star players in the left winger and right winger positions so maybe Jude Bellingham will play in the midfield next season. If Jude Bellingham plays in midfield, just imagine how strong Real Madrid will be next season. Real Madrid can make history next season if the opposition is easy.
The need for players in the Real Madrid squad has been very complete since Mbappe was officially introduced as a new player, it is unimaginable how frightening Real Madrid strength is this season because the players who occupy the starting XI have above average abilities. Ancelotti managed to make Real Madrid end the season with a different title even though they went through it full of challenges due to not having the right replacement to replace the position left by Benzema. The lack of a pure striker is not visible at all. Due to Ancelotti ingenuity in concocting his squad, Bellingham is a trump card for Real Madrid because of his extraordinary ability.

Now that Bellingham can play in his natural position after Mbappe joined the squad, the combination of talented young players will produce a fast attack that can threaten the opponent's defense. I predict that Real Madrid's goal productivity will increase this season because the strikers they currently have are very productive in scoring goals.
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August 07, 2024, 04:54:47 AM
Lille had a very very lucky day. Both of those goals were pure luck, not more than that. But Fenerbahçe still lost by only one goal at least. This means there is hope for them in the rematch.

Dzeko had a really bad day. He wasted important opportunities to score. Saint-Maximin also wasted critical chances because of being selfish in a place he shouldn't have been.

But I would agree Fenerbahçe defense is still not in good condition.  Sad  They are giving big spaces and Lille could have really scored more. I liked Livakovic this time by the way. He made really nice saves.
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August 07, 2024, 03:06:42 AM

The match is finally over, as Fernabach was defeated at Lille's home pitch. Mourinho lost his first game as Fernabach's manager. Lille dominated the match, despite Fernabach's having their best striker Džeko who scored 4 goals in their previous two games, but he was unable to score tonight. Fernabach could not endure Lille pressure to defend their home to the last whistle, and Zhegrova had a chance to score the winning goal for Lille in the final minute of the game.

However, if Livakovic had not stopped so many goals in this match, Fernabach would have conceded more than two. This is the first leg of two; Fernabach still has a chance to go to the next round because they are hosting the next match, and Fernabach might get a home advantage against Lille. It would be sad if Mourinho did not qualify for the Champions League in his debut with Fernabach.
Obviously the weakest point in Fenerbahce is the defense, only a few official matches in the Champions League qualification were enough to notice this, and the assessments of the defensive players also signal this. Fenerbahce expectedly played second number, and Mourinho was close enough to end this match in a draw, he was just a little short. It is not worth expecting that Fenerbahce will be able to change something in the second match, Lille will most likely be able to score away, and Fenerbahce are not strong enough to beat Lille by two or more goals.
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August 06, 2024, 09:48:40 PM
BTW, tomorrow there are several matches of the third qualifying round. From several matches I only took a few matches to put in the betting slip. Honestly, I rarely bet 1x2 but this time I tried to believe and try my luck.

Sparta Prague and Qarabag seem to be the strongest candidates to advance to the next round.


Of all your bets, there is one match that bothers me, namely Slavia Prague against Saint Gilloise. Isn't it too risky to place this match with the BTTS (No) betting option? because I think both Slavia Prague and Saint Gilloise will definitely return goals and this could thwart the bet that you have designed so neatly.

As for the match on the other slip, there is no problem and I think it will be an absolute victory for Qarabag and from one of Lille and Fenerbahce. I want to see this Champions League qualifying round full of drama and of course it would be very fun if there was a dark horse team that continued to advance.
Yes I also think like you every club Champions League qualifiers want to show their best and try to create as many aggregates as possible I think both clubs will score the same, it is rare to see club in a big competition one of them not scoring a chance, especially with odds of @1.87 I think it is too high.

Unfortunately Qarabag club did not play well in this match they lost at home I think it's over for that club and it seems they will not qualify for the next round unless Qarabag can get a draw by scoring the same aggregate by scoring 1 goal more than Ludogorets then they can move on to penalties but it seems difficult because Qarabag will be playing away. For Lille and Fenerbahce it's clear that both teams to score they have equally strong attacks and Lille managed to win in today's match.
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August 06, 2024, 06:59:21 PM
It's so retarded that every team has to blame their coach for their losses when they forgot the  coach isn't playing the damn ball, it's the players playing the ball though some fault could come out as a result of coach mistakes but let's be precise  most teams have the fault of 30% from coach and the remaining 70%comes from the player not performing upto the task.
I think it is not wrong if every team blames the coach because the coach has a very crucial role for the performance of a team. The player selection, training method, strategy, formation, and there are many other things are decided by the coach. Even the coach has the responsibility to build the mentality of the whole players. That's why a team/club must hire a charismatic coach who can motivate the players to follow the instruction of the coach.

Anyway, I think we can determine the fault with your formula. How you can determine 30% coach and 70% players? As far as I know, a team will play based on the instruction of the coach. No player will play beyond the plan/strategy. If this happens, it means the coach has failed to manage the players even if they can win the match.

Besides, most of this team lacks discipline which is why coaches can't control players sometimes, some don't even play according to script...
If you are talking about discipline, it is also a responsibility of the coach. If there is a player who doesn't want to discipline, the coach must give the player a punishment. Even a coach can give an instruction to order a player to live with a healthy way. Even worse, if a player doesn't want to follow the instruction in the field, the coach can put him on the bench for the next match.

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August 06, 2024, 06:47:46 PM

In fact, with the current squad Real Madrid has, a team that will defeat them has to work really hard and also be a lucky team like them. Even for next season, Real Madrid is the most favorable team to win the Champions League. They have the best squad currently in the world of football.
Barcelona, Girona and Atletico Madrid are the only opponents that can pull threat for the club, it's definitely going to be really hectic for Los Blancos but they always succeed in all levels. Real Madrid is the best club in the European football. They're the best among the best, Florentino Pérez and Carlo Ancelotti made it really possible for the players. Next season, no stress for Real Madrid, they've stuck the necessities and the players needed, they're favorite to win treble next season.

Why you guys are being concerned about next season Champions League, I am more concerned about the Laliga and the kind of intimidation that will be in the league. I really wished N.Williams joined forces with Jamal and others in Barcelona to give a better competition and resistance to Real Madrid.

As for champions league, I'm not afraid because it's a tournament of home and away(oh no, it has been changed). Hmmm let's see what the new season has for us.
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August 06, 2024, 06:42:18 PM

In fact, with the current squad Real Madrid has, a team that will defeat them has to work really hard and also be a lucky team like them. Even for next season, Real Madrid is the most favorable team to win the Champions League. They have the best squad currently in the world of football.
Barcelona, Girona and Atletico Madrid are the only opponents that can pull threat for the club, it's definitely going to be really hectic for Los Blancos but they always succeed in all levels. Real Madrid is the best club in the European football. They're the best among the best, Florentino Pérez and Carlo Ancelotti made it really possible for the players. Next season, no stress for Real Madrid, they've stuck the necessities and the players needed, they're favorite to win treble next season.

Last season was a challenging season for Real Madrid but they were most successful in that season so they have no reason to worry about next season. Their squad lacked a main striker after the departure of Karim Benzema which has been filled in this transfer window. They signed Jude Bellingham and at that time Jude Bellingham joined Real Madrid as a midfielder but Real Madrid turned him into a striker. 

At the Euros we saw Bellingham perform as the main striker for the England national team. Real Madrid have recruited a great man in their finishing position as well as having two of the best star players in the left winger and right winger positions so maybe Jude Bellingham will play in the midfield next season. If Jude Bellingham plays in midfield, just imagine how strong Real Madrid will be next season. Real Madrid can make history next season if the opposition is easy.
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August 06, 2024, 06:25:25 PM
BTW, tomorrow there are several matches of the third qualifying round. From several matches I only took a few matches to put in the betting slip. Honestly, I rarely bet 1x2 but this time I tried to believe and try my luck.

Sparta Prague and Qarabag seem to be the strongest candidates to advance to the next round.


Of all your bets, there is one match that bothers me, namely Slavia Prague against Saint Gilloise. Isn't it too risky to place this match with the BTTS (No) betting option? because I think both Slavia Prague and Saint Gilloise will definitely return goals and this could thwart the bet that you have designed so neatly.

As for the match on the other slip, there is no problem and I think it will be an absolute victory for Qarabag and from one of Lille and Fenerbahce. I want to see this Champions League qualifying round full of drama and of course it would be very fun if there was a dark horse team that continued to advance.

Betting on BTTS with odds of 1.87 really makes no sense. I like such bets but only when I find rare odds >3.0. It happens rarely (although I can't say that I always monitor this market) but it is always worth it.
As for the games, two have already gone wrong, and due to the low odds, regardless of the outcome of the last game, the total bet is minus. It's sad, and it seems to me that in such random games, betting on favorites is very unprofitable.
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August 06, 2024, 04:44:58 PM
Saint Maximin had a good first half. Fenerbahçe is playing worse as a team but I can say that. Lille is using the advantage of being home very well. Livakovic is on a good day today. If Livakovic was bad, Fenerbahçe would have conceded 4 goals already.
Saint Maximin was one of my favorite player, the former Newcastle United player was basically gifted with potentials and very good footing with the ball. The UEFA Champions League is main for the elite clubs and average clubs. These categories keeps putting up their very best performance to reach peak momentum and finally run for the best. Fenerbahçe have good players for link up for excellent results but watching whats happening to them currently, it's definitely out of the box.
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August 06, 2024, 04:36:21 PM
Saint Maximin had a good first half. Fenerbahçe is playing worse as a team but I can say that. Lille is using the advantage of being home very well. Livakovic is on a good day today. If Livakovic was bad, Fenerbahçe would have conceded 4 goals already.

The match is finally over, as Fernabach was defeated at Lille's home pitch. Mourinho lost his first game as Fernabach's manager. Lille dominated the match, despite Fernabach's having their best striker Džeko who scored 4 goals in their previous two games, but he was unable to score tonight. Fernabach could not endure Lille pressure to defend their home to the last whistle, and Zhegrova had a chance to score the winning goal for Lille in the final minute of the game.

However, if Livakovic had not stopped so many goals in this match, Fernabach would have conceded more than two. This is the first leg of two; Fernabach still has a chance to go to the next round because they are hosting the next match, and Fernabach might get a home advantage against Lille. It would be sad if Mourinho did not qualify for the Champions League in his debut with Fernabach.
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August 06, 2024, 03:37:44 PM
This Fenerbahce is a really unlucky team. He scored the first goal as his own goal and failed to capitalize on numerous scoring opportunities with Dzeko. İrfancan made the score 1-1 with his own effort, but the match was 90+1. In the minute the ball hit the defense again and misled the goalkeeper and the score became 2-1.
Maybe if the match had been 1-1, he could have passed the round with a victory in Kadıköy, but now he will definitely have to beat Lille in Istanbul.
He could not show any success in Lille. Even though Lille was the favorite of the match, the game was not like that at all.
There is a rematch next week and I am looking forward to the result of this match.
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August 06, 2024, 02:33:09 PM
Fenerbahçe's starting XI against Lille has been announced. It'll be the first time we'll see Saint-Maximin in the starting line-up. I hope the coach has an idea behind this bold decision. With Krunic back in the starting 11, the team is already playing short-handed and we will see how Maximin will react to the increased risk with his decision.
Saint Maximin had a good first half. Fenerbahçe is playing worse as a team but I can say that. Lille is using the advantage of being home very well. Livakovic is on a good day today. If Livakovic was bad, Fenerbahçe would have conceded 4 goals already.
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August 06, 2024, 02:22:35 PM
Fenerbahçe should be very careful in this match because they are playing away. If Fenerbahçe loses this match, they may have a very difficult time in the return match. I think Mourinho is aware of this. That is why I think they will play a defensive game against Lille. I think they will fight in a way that a draw will be enough without taking any risks. Lille is a much more difficult opponent compared to the previous match, so Fenerbahçe should show extra performance.
Fenerbahçe still has a chance to get a draw in this first leg. The current situation is that Fenerbahçe is already 1 goal behind and Lille is dominating the game. If they are unable to get a point in the first leg, Fenerbahçe must be able to try not to concede more than one goal to make it easier for them when they welcome Lille to their home ground. We all know how Mourinho is. Moreover, this is his first season at Fenerbahçe.
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August 06, 2024, 02:09:16 PM
When you look at the odds, Lille is seen as the better team so they should be getting the win. I understand that it is not going to be that simple, like just because odds says Lille will win, doesn't mean that Lille will win, we could have Lille losing and Fenerbahce winning as well, with Mourinho at the helm, they are capable of doing a lot of damage and we have seen how amazing they were against Lugano last series, they won very easily in two games, and definitely destroyed their opponent.

I think their style is one of those "doesn't look good, but gets the result" type of system, which Mourinho definitely loves, he doesn't care about how it looks during the game, only cares about the result, which causes issues during the season, but on any tournament he goes very far. I think if they were in Europa, then I would say they have a chance to win the whole title.

I'm following the game and in my opinion it's being a very difficult game for Fenerbahce, who are not having spaces to attack or counterattack. Lille's attack and defense are very strong and at the moment I'm writing this post, Lille is winning. Lille is dominating possession of the ball, Lille has been making more attacks. So I see Lille managing to leave this game with a victory. The best option for Mourinho's team would be to focus a lot on defense, let Lille's players get tired quickly because they don't stop attacking and when the game is nearing the end, make counterattacks to at least get an equalizer. And when the game is in the second leg, which will be at Fenerbahce's home, then Mourinho's team could make an effort to win the game. This is the only good option for Fenerbahce to move on to the next phase in this disadvantageous scenario.
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August 06, 2024, 02:02:45 PM
The Champions League is a unique competition that is extremely competitive, and no club in the competition should be underestimated. Manchester City are far superior to Real Madrid in terms of player quality, but Madrid just has more experience in the UCL than other teams in the league they typically have the best luck in the Champions League, which is why they have more trophies than other clubs in the competition. The UCL must begin first before you can assess how other teams will perform and who will be the favorite to win the UCL trophy.

The champions league have become like a normal competition for Real Madrid that they can play in every season and win the trophy. As the saying always goes, to win the champions league, don’t allow Real Madrid to reach the finals before wanting to eliminate them in the competition. If you have a way, don’t let them exit the group stage which is highly very impossible to happen. They’ve played and mastered this competition like their own and always the best to show that they are the king of competition. They have all the experience in this competition and also their youth players are already exposed to the competition from their young age because of their participation in it always. They are still the favourites for the champions league trophy but should beware of Manchester City who are also big contender for the UCL trophy just like they are.
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August 06, 2024, 01:30:52 PM

It seems funny when you say Manchester City is better than Real Madrid, even though you say just about squad factors. I think it's clear, Real Madrid is better from many factors including the squad and also, it's even funnier when you say that Real Madrid has won so many trophies compared to other teams, but you say it is a luck factor. LOL.

After all, basically Real Madrid has been a successful team in the past and is still continuing in the current era. Meanwhile, Manchester City is just a team that has succeeded in the last few  years when it became a rich team and also when Pep Guardiola was coach of Manchester City. With considerations like that,  it would be very inaccurate if you assumed that Real Madrid just got lucky,that would be a joke.

We agree with that, that Real Madrid can be said to be more competitive than other competing teams at this time and they also have a big chance theoretically after bringing in Mbappe. However, regarding which team will win this competition there is no guarantee even though Madrid has a high probability. To be honest, I want to see Madrid's current performance. Because, we haven't seen a good game in this preseason. But it's natural, usually Don Carlo doesn't really prioritize winning for his team's preseason matches. To be honest, I'm curious about the system and pattern implemented by Ancelotti. Because, it is very likely that he can tinker with the composition of the players and also the pattern he uses. Besides, it's interesting to see El Real's performance without Toni Kroos.

Meanwhile, Manchester City, not much has changed this season. In fact, one of their strikers will leave. However, I don't doubt Pep Guardiola with his myriad of tactics and strategies. Although it can be said that Madrid is sharper on the front line with the presence of Mbappe, it doesn't mean they can beat Manchester City easily if they meet in the competition phase. So far we have always seen that these two teams are always strong candidates in the Champions League, but maybe there is another team that unexpectedly shows a good performance and can overthrow City and Madrid when they meet later. Well, there is always a possibility and I hope the Champions League next season is quite interesting.
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August 06, 2024, 01:23:32 PM
Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I'm not sure that Fenerbahce is superior to Lille in terms of squad, I think that in this pair Lille looks like the favorite, and if Mourinho manages to reach the group stage of the Champions League, it will be a great achievement. Fenerbahce will most likely try to play this match in a draw, for Mourinho it has always been a priority not to lose away, but in the matches with Lugano we saw that Fenerbahce has problems with defense, so I think that Lille will also be able to score today.

The match will start in less than 2 hours and to be honest, we can categorize the match between Fenerbache vs Lille as the only big match today, I personally am actually inclined to see that Fenerbache will be the favorite to win today match compared to Lille, based on the quality of the squad it is clear that Fenerbache is superior as well as the game strategy that Mourinho will apply in the match, we know that Mourinho is a coach who is very experienced in training big teams so far, so I think that will be a plus for Fenerbache chances of winning, but even though So of course we can't underestimate Lille, who performed quite impressively in Ligue 1 last season, in my opinion, even though Fenerbache will be relatively more favourites, I am quite sure that the match will be very tight because it can be said that this match will be very decisive for the chances from both teams to make it easier for them to qualify for the playoffs later.


Fenerbahçe should be very careful in this match because they are playing away. If Fenerbahçe loses this match, they may have a very difficult time in the return match. I think Mourinho is aware of this. That is why I think they will play a defensive game against Lille. I think they will fight in a way that a draw will be enough without taking any risks. Lille is a much more difficult opponent compared to the previous match, so Fenerbahçe should show extra performance.
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August 06, 2024, 01:14:03 PM
Teams that qualify for the Champions League are the best teams in their various leagues; there is no way a team will like to underestimate the other team all because of how good they have been in dominating their leagues and the Champions League.

The reality of this remains that we don't know how the Champions League matches and team preparation will be by next season. We can have a team that is less favorite to win, the team that is everyone's favorite to win the Champions League, knocking them out of the league race, giving the unexpected club the advantage of becoming the Champions League winner.
Agreed. The Champions League is the most competitive league because all teams competing in the UCL league are representatives of Europe's elite leagues, so all teams competing in the UCL league can provide surprises. However, teams that have a good squad and have a UCL league mentality will always be favored, and that's natural. especially Real Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich, and Barcelona.

However, it must be admitted that every season there must be a favorite team that is defeated by a team that was never favored, this also does not rule out the possibility that this season there will be many surprises produced by the underdog teams. Moreover, the new UCL league format is implemented this season, of course this will affect teams that have many competitions, it can be said that with this new format it will be very beneficial for teams that have fewer schedules so that the players' stamina is not too drained.
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