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August 04, 2024, 03:31:58 PM
I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
Even though Bayern Munich’s last season Bundesliga performance is not that good, we cannot use that to judge their Champions League expectations for next season because despite having a bad season, they were able to reach the semifinals in the last season’s Champions League which means they also have Champions League experience.

Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and others including Arsenal looks like teams  to be considered before Bayern Munich in selecting the favorites to win the title especially because Kompany is a new coach who is having his first big team experience at Bayern Munich; while all these teams I mentioned have done very well and have some experience in the tournament as well as in the Champions League. Therefore, I am also counting Bayern out of the Champions League title chase this season.
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August 04, 2024, 03:27:58 PM

It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.

Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final
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August 04, 2024, 03:20:16 PM
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.
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August 04, 2024, 03:13:39 PM
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.

I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
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August 04, 2024, 02:30:01 PM
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
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August 04, 2024, 01:57:59 PM
There is no meaning in criticizing Harry Kane. It is even ridiculous.  Grin  What can he do more than this? He is scoring tons of goals every season. Even in his first season with Bayern Munich, he scored 44 goals and made 12 assists in 45 matches.

He is doing what a striker should do exactly. He is even doing more than that as this is a way extra performance. He is unlucky about team successes unfortunately. He even ran into a time in which Bayern Munich's long title series in the Bundesliga to be broken. I believe he will start achieving titles soon anyway. Maybe it might not happen in the Champions League but domestic titles would be claimed by his team. We are talking about the biggest team in Germany.  Smiley
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him
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August 04, 2024, 01:56:05 PM

Kane really deserves a trophy a least because it will be bad after all his goal scoring record then he is unable to win a trophy, he has just proven his scoring ability for Bayern Munich same way he did while at Tottenham but for me if he is not able to win a trophy at Bayern this season he should consider joining other top European clubs like Manchester City, Juventus or PSG so that he can have a chance of winning a title. I just felt for the England striker because he is one player that gives his all for his team even in the just concluded UERO competition, he made a lot of impact and scored goals as well but still not able to win the tournament even after they made it to the finals.
             Vincent Kompany knows that Bayern Munich is a big team so he is already feeling the pressure and fear if he don't make things right for the club because Bayern Munich may not give him a second chance if he is not able to prove himself in the upcoming season so I understand the kind of situation he is facing now that is the reason why I was suggesting that he would have still maintained coaching lower clubs and achieve a recognized level of success before making attempts to Coach a team like Bayern Munich. The team is not in the right position to be tipped to win the UCL so I don't see any magic happening for Bayern Munich.

Man, I feel very bad for Kane. He definitely is one of the best strikers this generation has seen, and it's not on him that he hasn't won a trophy yet. He goes so close every time, innit?

I think this season will be one to watch for him. If the team does not show him good promise, he should look for a better move. Because Bayern management right now looks under pressure, they got Tuchel, sacked him, and now had to settle for Kompany. Who knows, maybe they can turn around from here. Maybe Kompany is not experienced on paper, but I think he will prove a lot of people wrong. Very interesting things to unfold.
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August 04, 2024, 01:27:01 PM
Luis Enrique is a winner manager. Therefore I understand people who are believing in him. He won the Champions League title with Barcelona in the past you know.  Wink

However he has a really tough job to do now. He isn't managing prime Barcelona anymore. PSG also has really talented players of course but they are still not ready enough to go for the title in this tournament. As of Mbappe's departure, we don't know how they will perform in the Champions League yet. I don't want to mean like they will be worse of course. Because it is all about having a good team play. Then not having Mbappe won't matter that much.  Smiley
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August 04, 2024, 01:02:26 PM
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Real Madrid and Man City are always the candidates to win UCL. Real Madrid looks like having stronger squad, they have Mbappe now. Meanwhile Man City may try to win UCL and give the trophy for the farewell with Guardiola. Let's see which team to reach the final and win the trophy of UCL this season. I personally expect Real Madrid to win again UCL trophy, it will be the first UCL trophy for Mbappe.  Grin


It's fantastic that so many people believe in Luis Enrique. He is an excellent coach with experience. PSG's Champions League history is not very good, though. Sure, they have a team of stars, but that hasn't been sufficient to get them over the hill. Though it can't buy you tactical knowledge or chemistry, money can buy you ability. Losing a talent like Mbappe is devastating, and it emphasizes the need of wise, strategic acquisitions. It's about finding the correct bits to finish the puzzle, not only about stuffing additional stars into the picture. Players who can carry out Luis Enrique's vision, adapt to various circumstances, and manage the pressure of the Champions League will be much sought for. Though it will be difficult, if someone can accomplish it it is Luis Enrique. Let us thus examine what he has planned.
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August 04, 2024, 12:59:59 PM
Real Madrid and Man City are always the candidates to win UCL. Real Madrid looks like having stronger squad, they have Mbappe now. Meanwhile Man City may try to win UCL and give the trophy for the farewell with Guardiola. Let's see which team to reach the final and win the trophy of UCL this season. I personally expect Real Madrid to win again UCL trophy, it will be the first UCL trophy for Mbappe.  Grin

The funny thing about the Champions League is that it's always won by one of the big teams. The winner might not be among the favourites but they are always a big team. Even when a new team wins it for the first time, they don't usually win it on their first try. They would need to have built their team over the years and be among the best teams in Europe.
When Chelsea won it for the first time they have already been regulars in Europe and even lost a final to Manchester United. Same thing for Manchester City. This shows that the Champions League is truly a league for the big boys, an underdog rarely wins it.
So when you mention teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid as favourites, you're very right because they might become the winner.
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August 04, 2024, 12:50:56 PM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates.

What about Bayern Munich?  Smiley  I think they are likely to improve their performance this season. Kompany is like a dark horse for now, I know. Most people are curious about what he will do.

This is his first job at such a big team so I understand people. However with a reference by Guardiola I want to think positive about his potential. I guess he has played a good role in the recent transfers also.

I'm really sad for Kane. While he is doing his best wherever he goes, I believe he deserves to win trophies. Starting with a Champions League trophy would be amazing for him but Bayern Munich should perform many times better than last season.  Sad

I do not rate Vincent Kompany too much, Bayern Munich is a big club, I'm expecting him to up his performance in Bundesliga, but in the Champions League Competition? Nothing. Let's see what happens in the month of August. Not having high hopes on him truthfully.

We will see. He might have been recommended by Josep Pep Guardiola, but he is not Pep Guardiola. He will have to show working that he is capable of handling the job perfectly.

I'm also, it feels saddening to see such a top quality player without any silverware for both club and country. I'd say he was too comfortable with Tottenham Hotspur but we'll be hopeful he wins something ahead with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich failed him last season after hee scored too many goals for them. I feel like the biggest challenge they had was defense last season.

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August 04, 2024, 12:36:36 PM
After Mbappe's move to Real Madrid, Mbappe's fans must be very impatient to see their favorite player realize his desire to win the title he has always dreamed of which he has never felt before as a PSG player, actually quite bored to see Real Madrid always win the Champions League title but because this is the first season for Mbappe then I am also happy if Real Madrid presents the first trophy for Mbappe, he will definitely give his optimal contribution to the club more than when he was at PSG because when at his previous club he was a little selfish with other players while at Real Madrid he will be treated like a player in general because Real Madrid has many good players not just him.

This competition has not even started, we cannot be sure whether Mbappe is able to win the title with Madrid in the Champions League. Although Real Madrid's chances are very big to defend the title, in fact the Champions League competition has not started. We all agree that Real Madrid is one of the strong teams, they have great potential to become Champions League champions again. Moreover, Madrid currently has Mbappe who can be used as a mainstay player as a goal scorer. However, we cannot be sure of Mbappe's progress with Real Madrid. It is true, Mbappe can realize his dream of winning this competition trophy, especially since Madrid is a team that has a very qualified depth of players in every line. In addition, Madrid is also a team that has a champion mentality in this competition. Unfortunately, what we are discussing here is still in opinion and assumption only, because the team that is its competitor will not necessarily let Madrid become champions again.

Likewise with Man City, one of the Premier League teams is always a strong candidate in the Champions League. It's not just about the players owned by City, but Pep Guardiola is a coach who has a myriad of tactics and strategies for his team. even if we look at the depth of these two teams if Madrid is more favored, but on the field later City cannot be underestimated. even so, no one disagrees if these two teams are always included in the candidate for the title challenger. however, it does not mean closing the possibility if another team becomes the winner in this competition.
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August 04, 2024, 12:11:45 PM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates.

What about Bayern Munich?  Smiley  I think they are likely to improve their performance this season. Kompany is like a dark horse for now, I know. Most people are curious about what he will do.

This is his first job at such a big team so I understand people. However with a reference by Guardiola I want to think positive about his potential. I guess he has played a good role in the recent transfers also.

I'm really sad for Kane. While he is doing his best wherever he goes, I believe he deserves to win trophies. Starting with a Champions League trophy would be amazing for him but Bayern Munich should perform many times better than last season.  Sad
If we look at the many posts here, the majority of us continue to assume that there will only be two favorite teams that are likely to win the Champions League next season, namely Madrid and Manchester City, and even if we remember previously there were predictions that actually gave percentages for teams other than Madrid and Manchester City only have a 1% chance of winning the Champions League next season, I think it's natural that we have many differences in favoring a team but we shouldn't underestimate other teams.

Last season, Munich and Dortmund continued to be underestimated and underrated will be able to go far in the Champions League after bad performance from both teams in the domestic league but in fact Dortmund was even able to reach the final even though they lost to Madrid in the final, in my opinion next season there will be a lot of competition from big teams to win the champions league trophy, especially with the new competition format allowing each team have many matches to gain points for qualify from the semi-league phase, So I think  all teams that will qualify for the round of 16 will be worthy of being favorites.
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August 04, 2024, 12:04:27 PM
If Real Madrid did not clash with City early before the finals, it is possible that these two teams will play in the finals because currently, I don't see any team that is as strong as them and in a good form like they are.

However, if they clash before the finals, we will only see one of them which might be Real Madrid because they are still the favorite in UCL, and with the improvement of the attack by bringing Mbappe City will stand no chance to defeat them. I am also looking out to see the other team that will play with Real Madrid in the finals.
Very interesting, because in 3 seasons they always faced each other before the final, and the team that won in the match became the Champions League champions. When they face before the final is like a final match that is too early, and I think we all agreed on that. Real Madrid and Manchester City in my opinion today are the 2 best teams in mainland Europe. I don't know whether you agree or disagree with that, but this is my current view.
I waited for them to really meet in the final match, but unfortunately they were always in the same table when they entered the round of 16. Maybe this is still too early to talk about it, because currently the new Champions League is in the qualifying round. Apart from that, we will also see the new format that will be used. The most important thing is that now there are 2 teams that we are talking about now can play well in the first phase and be able to qualify for the following round without a problem.
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August 04, 2024, 11:59:25 AM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates.

What about Bayern Munich?  Smiley  I think they are likely to improve their performance this season. Kompany is like a dark horse for now, I know. Most people are curious about what he will do.

This is his first job at such a big team so I understand people. However with a reference by Guardiola I want to think positive about his potential. I guess he has played a good role in the recent transfers also.

I'm really sad for Kane. While he is doing his best wherever he goes, I believe he deserves to win trophies. Starting with a Champions League trophy would be amazing for him but Bayern Munich should perform many times better than last season.  Sad

To win the Bundesliga trophy I would still doubt Bayern Munich, so I really can't think Bayern Munich has a chance to win the Champions League trophy. After all, maybe for an easy trophy like the DFB Pokal which might still be possible for Bayern Munich to get it next season. So, if targeting the Champions League trophy, I believe it is very inappropriate because after all, basically Bayern Munich also has a priority to be able to dominate the Bundesliga again.

After all, Bayern Munich also does not have a very good history in the Champions League and does not have an impressive history like Real Madrid, so how can the situation of Bayern Munich like this make you think Bayern Munich has a good chance in the Champions League. It doesn't matter what factors Bayern Munich have, because I think they will prioritize avenging last season's loss to Bayer Leverkusen.
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August 04, 2024, 11:28:59 AM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates.

What about Bayern Munich?  Smiley  I think they are likely to improve their performance this season. Kompany is like a dark horse for now, I know. Most people are curious about what he will do.

This is his first job at such a big team so I understand people. However with a reference by Guardiola I want to think positive about his potential. I guess he has played a good role in the recent transfers also.

I'm really sad for Kane. While he is doing his best wherever he goes, I believe he deserves to win trophies. Starting with a Champions League trophy would be amazing for him but Bayern Munich should perform many times better than last season.  Sad
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August 04, 2024, 10:25:52 AM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates. I also see that there will be other teams that are able to play until the semi-finals and there is no Man City in it. Talking about the Champions League is indeed inseparable from the experience and quality of the players owned by each team, but there are always surprises that might happen without us predicting.
I also want to see other teams besides the two teams you mentioned who can enter the Champions League final next season even though according to current predictions the two teams are still worthy of being called candidates because apart from both of them already having enough experience in the Champions League, both are also still handled by coaches who are able to implement player rotation within the team when facing important matches in the Champions League. In addition, even if there is another team that is able to enter the final surprisingly, it could be that one of the two teams you mentioned is a rival for the other team you mean.
If Real Madrid did not clash with City early before the finals, it is possible that these two teams will play in the finals because currently, I don't see any team that is as strong as them and in a good form like they are.

However, if they clash before the finals, we will only see one of them which might be Real Madrid because they are still the favorite in UCL, and with the improvement of the attack by bringing Mbappe City will stand no chance to defeat them. I am also looking out to see the other team that will play with Real Madrid in the finals.
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August 04, 2024, 10:20:07 AM
Leverkusen's last season's Bundesliga win was more than just effort. Indeed, they gave it their all, but thats inevitable in every championship race. Leverkusens unique quality was their strategic genius under Xabi Alonso. He out-thought and moved his rivals, not only inspired his players. That is the essence of a real winner. Those who discount Leverkusen's victory as a fluke or a question of chance just do not know the game.  This was about intelligence, on and off the field, not only about vitality. Leverkusen proved to the globe they are a force to be reckoned with. They changed what it means to be a champion, not only won the Bundesliga.

That is a good expression to describe Leverkusen's situation and indeed they will be one of the scary teams in the champions league next season. All move freely because of the encouragement of Xabi Alonso and if not for that I am sure Leverkusen would not be at the level they are at. Their achievements are proof that they are very serious about challenging other strong teams and we just have to wait and see how it will happen later.

Leverkusen is also likely to be a team that is difficult to predict and with Xabi Alonso's experience who once studied with Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola, and Mourinho when he was an active player will increase the number of variations in strategy that he will show. I am grateful that Xavi Alonso remains at Leverkusen because if not we will not see him making history again with Leverkusen next season.
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August 04, 2024, 10:03:56 AM
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I also want to see other teams besides the two teams you mentioned who can enter the Champions League final next season even though according to current predictions the two teams are still worthy of being called candidates because apart from both of them already having enough experience in the Champions League, both are also still handled by coaches who are able to implement player rotation within the team when facing important matches in the Champions League. In addition, even if there is another team that is able to enter the final surprisingly, it could be that one of the two teams you mentioned is a rival for the other team you mean.
It is not yet certain that Real Madrid and Manchester City will appear in the final together because if both teams are in the same pot in the knock-out round, the possibility of both of them competing earlier is very open. As happened in the previous two seasons, Real Madrid and Manchester City beat each other to advance to the final, if this scenario repeats itself, it is likely that they will face different opponents in the Final. Other teams also have a big chance of appearing in the final, like Dortmund did last season, who would have thought they could eliminate their opponents and then successfully advance to the final round.

Inter Milan also has the opportunity to appear in the final because their quality has been very good lately, Leverkusen can also be a dark horse team that is ready to surprise other teams that always play regularly in the Champions League. The increasingly competitive competition will make the chances of the top teams smaller, the tight schedule is the main reason why teams cannot perform optimally due to the excess of players. I also hope that both teams can also appear in the final because their quality is at a high level, if the scenario of last season's final repeats itself (Real Madrid vs Dortmund) it is very easy to guess who will win the Champions League.
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August 04, 2024, 08:08:11 AM
This season there will be other teams that will try to play more consistently in the Champions League even though most people say Real Madrid and Man City are strong candidates. I also see that there will be other teams that are able to play until the semi-finals and there is no Man City in it. Talking about the Champions League is indeed inseparable from the experience and quality of the players owned by each team, but there are always surprises that might happen without us predicting.
I also want to see other teams besides the two teams you mentioned who can enter the Champions League final next season even though according to current predictions the two teams are still worthy of being called candidates because apart from both of them already having enough experience in the Champions League, both are also still handled by coaches who are able to implement player rotation within the team when facing important matches in the Champions League. In addition, even if there is another team that is able to enter the final surprisingly, it could be that one of the two teams you mentioned is a rival for the other team you mean.
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