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Quote from: Jaycoinz on September 06, 2024, 02:36:21 PM

The team I would like to watch.is really Real Madrid because of this their recent form and aslo because of the big hype that has being given to them since the coming of mbappe and from what am seeing, the guy is still struggling to meet up and even cope with the whole squad although ancelotti is still looking for that perfect match that would make their attack blend a bit although I still understand that they are really missing the presence of bellegham

Seriously, many people are looking up to see how Real Madrid performance will be in the Champions League this season because of the hype they have all this while. You are right, Mbappe is still struggling to meet up with the expectations that people have had about him, as he still has yet to deliver the necessary result that Real Madrid fans have been hyping him for. Furthermore, in the La Liga up until now, Real Madrid's performance is not as tough as people are expecting; they are passing some little bit of weakness. I think Mbappe is still yet to enjoy the squad.

Quote from: Sim_card on September 06, 2024, 10:24:28 AM

Atalanta was in a good form last season and that was why they were able to beat Liverpool and Leverkusen in finals to win the cup. The club sold some of their players and that affected the team performance. It is a shock to see how a strong team became so weak without playing matches. It seems that Italy teams can be very strong today and become vegetables tomorrow. This was what happened to Napoli too last season.

Yoh are right, I think Atlanta made some wrong decision by selling some of their key players; they would have not done that so they could keep their performance consistently rather than being strong, and then the following season they are weak; that is too bad for them. They deafened Leverkusen, which was an unexpected move; nobody expected that would happen, but they did it. Instead, they should keep those key players that made them achieve the title last season; they sell some of them, and I believe not only Napoli, any team that can do such will really get weak.

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Quote from: junder on September 06, 2024, 12:59:08 PM

UCL is a prestigious competition, all participants are the best clubs in their respective leagues, as well as Atalanta who were crowned Europa League champions after defeating Leverkusen. Atalanta is a new participant at this different level, they are ready to give maximum resistance, the ambition to qualify for the next phase is the main goal, a tough opponent is waiting. Facing Arsenal in the first match is clearly a tough challenge, but here I will not say Atalanta can win, but if targeting a draw it can be said to have a chance.

Usually a chance to participate in the champions league for those who aren't regular appearance in the champions League, it's regarded as an honor because how els would they have an opportunity to showcase their skills on a level ground with bigger teams of a very high world class standards outside their domestic leagues if not for the champions League and that could be one of the reasons to its prestigious nature. I don't know what it feels like you have regarded Arsenal as a stronger opponent than Liverpool against Atlanta in the champions League, I want you to remember that Liverpool is even more consistent in the champions league than Arsenal and are even more experienced than Arsenal so they are the biggest for me, if it were to be in premier league then I would consider that really differently.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 05, 2024, 05:00:46 PM

If it turns out Atlanta win Liverpool I may not be very surprised but then I will believe it's probably a lucky day for Atlanta, in champions league it's usually a very different spirit altogether because they know how prestigious the trophy is, Liverpool is a much very and experienced team in the champions league than Atlanta and this has been the reason Liverpool has been seen as the favourite. Atlanta have a sound confidence currently dues to the fact that they win the Europa and even this season they are starting on a good start but then champions league is really different.

If Atalanta does not lower their performance as they were last season that they won the Europa League, they can be a good team to reckon on in the champions league. Liverpool is a strong team but in the champions league every team try to be their best and give their opponents tough time even though they’re going to lose the match. As for Atalanta, they are not a team to joke with or look down on by any team when they face in the champions league. They are full of surprises and may pull a stunt that everyone will be so shocked they made it to another round of the Champions League competition.

Quote from: nelson4lov on September 05, 2024, 05:26:13 PM

The UCL is yet to start but I'm pretty sure Real Madrid will go very far this season unless they improve and the team can understood itself because there was a similar situation like this when PSH had Mbappe, Messi abd Neymar on their team. Everyone thought they'd win it that year for sure but it's not always as it seems and Real Madrid is just the signs already. My thesis is wrong only if the Don finds a way to get his team back to strong, consistent winning days.

Despite the low expectations we are seeing from Real Madrid, I still think they’re a team that can make it far in the champions league. They are the kings of champions league and can always make their way through no matter the circumstances they find themselves in. Mbappe is just getting started in the club, he will adapt gradually and will give the team a very good record in the league games and champions league. I know he’ll do his best and I really have that great hope in him.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 06, 2024, 10:49:06 AM

Don't underestimate Atalanta, if you see their path they are a very tough team to face. The match against Real Madrid was mentioned, but just look at how he did in the Europa League.
They weren't all bad opponents and so in my opinion he has the chance to do very well. Of course I don't think he'll reach the semi-finals

Atalanta is a big what if this year.
They lost 3 key players, Scamacca and Salvini for Injuries and Koopmeiners sold to Juventus.

They also changed a lot of less relevants players, so they will probably need some time to start rolling as they usually do.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 06, 2024, 11:55:35 AM

If I remember correctly, bookmakers rate Liverpool as 5-7 title contenders. Yes, luck may smile on them (if Real is eliminated before a personal meeting with Liverpool), but still, the strategy for the season is built around the national championship, since the Champions League is random. In any case, the group stage of the Champions League is not the stage where clubs play at full strength or show their cards.

The UEFA Champions League group stage is simply nothing, there'd always heavy presence of opposing threats and actions from clubs. There's always momentum for these clubs to fight for crucial points and winning is among their priorities. We know clubs that will enchanced their performance until they're in the top phases in the UEFA Champions League. It's going to be entertaining to watch these clubs become very elite and competitive because everyone keen on winning.

The team I would like to watch.is really Real Madrid because of this their recent form and aslo because of the big hype that has being given to them since the coming of mbappe and from what am seeing, the guy is still struggling to meet up and even cope with the whole squad although ancelotti is still looking for that perfect match that would make their attack blend a bit although I still understand that they are really missing the presence of bellegham

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 06, 2024, 11:54:26 AM

Statistics say that Real Madrid is the best club in its consistency in the Champions League and also in La Liga, it can be seen from the number of times they can win the Champions League title and their consistent performance in La Liga. So with that I say that they are indeed the best club in the domestic league and in European competitions. This season they are also the favorites to win the Champions League again although that does not fully guarantee that they can do it again, because the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Moreover, they have not yet found their best game in La Liga, it's just that the Champions League has not started yet, therefore they still have enough time to fix it.

Real Madrid has defended the trophy countless times than even Manchester City and that is one of the benefits that they have is the experience of having played and won multiple times in La Liga they also have quite a history there, you see these two leagues they are always very consistent and not just consistent they are always winning, the season that just passed they won the title that is both the la Liga and the champions league, they have been putting everything in place and their performance solid in their domestic league and Real Madrid have done all they could, we the Manchester City have the upper hand to win the champions league and we are ready even if they have mbappe we have better players than real Madrid and even last season we did not meet if not I already have a full assurance that we are going to win the champions league, as it is the truth does not seek validation the champions league title is already ours this season and we, real Madrid starting point in their domestic league is not yet settled.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on September 05, 2024, 05:26:13 PM

When Mbappe joined Real Madrid at the beginning of the season, everyone was so sure that they'd be off to a flying start. I know they did win the super cup but their recent performances have been nothing to write home about especially with the quality of squad they constantly field when they go up against any team.

The UCL is yet to start but I'm pretty sure Real Madrid will go very far this season unless they improve and the team can understood itself because there was a similar situation like this when PSH had Mbappe, Messi abd Neymar on their team. Everyone thought they'd win it that year for sure but it's not always as it seems and Real Madrid is just the signs already. My thesis is wrong only if the Don finds a way to get his team back to strong, consistent winning days.

Mbappe's transfer to Real Madrid raised expectations! Euro 2024 shortened his preseason. Even world-class players require time to adjust to a new squad and system. He has two goals, but its early.

This is about the squad finding its groove, not just Mbappe. That takes time and isnt always easy. And this new Champions League structure kills. Stress, exhaustion, and injuries increase with more games. Even for Real Madrid, it will be difficult.

Allow Mbappe and the team some breathing room. They have talent and potential. Its a long season, and success takes time. Even the best teams must work for it. I believe in this team and Mbappe. When they find their rhythm, watch out!

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Quote from: Sim_card on September 06, 2024, 10:24:28 AM

Atalanta was in a good form last season and that was why they were able to beat Liverpool and Leverkusen in finals to win the cup. The club sold some of their players and that affected the team performance. It is a shock to see how a strong team became so weak without playing matches. It seems that Italy teams can be very strong today and become vegetables tomorrow. This was what happened to Napoli too last season.

You are so funny but you are actually saying the true because Napoli really surprised me the following season of their champions, I believe even though they can't win again at least they should end up as runner up, unlike Manchester United that won champions league in 2008 and become the runner up the following season against Barcelona, with their performance then no one really blame them, but by the way that match was so boring as if it wasn't a champions league final, I will agree with you on Atalanta but even then they are not that strong but they only make use of the chances they got by eliminating the two teams people were anticipating to see any of them lifting the trophy.

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Quote from: salad daging on September 06, 2024, 11:11:26 AM

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 06, 2024, 01:49:01 AM

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Anyway, Atalanta must minimize defeats if they intend to survive and also because the intensity of their training must be increased from now on.

Don't underestimate Atalanta, if you see their path they are a very tough team to face. The match against Real Madrid was mentioned, but just look at how he did in the Europa League.
They weren't all bad opponents and so in my opinion he has the chance to do very well. Of course I don't think he'll reach the semi-finals

The Europa League is different again from the Champions League especially now with the new format I think it will be even tighter while we know Atalanta so far in Serie A are still bad they lost to Inter Milan badly and lost again to Torino.

Not underestimating Atalanta but the reality is it will be more difficult but I see the fixture with Arsenal will be more complicated than before with Leverkusen during the Europa League final.
So far there are no big expectations from Atalanta, considering some of the teams they sold of course the squad now will be different from before, but I want to see the action to see how far Atalanta go in the Champions League.

Atlanta was indeed able to surprise us last season by beating Liverpool and Leverkusen to win the European League, but to repeat this success is not an easy thing in this season, last season Atlanta was eliminated from the Coppa Italia, while in Serie A they not hope of being able can to get it scudetto from the beginning, so indeed Atlanta main focus at that time was to win the European League.
The European league is indeed a league under the auspices of Uefa just like the Champions League, but I think we have a different intensity and atmosphere of the match here, so that when Atlanta which able to win the Europa League last season but there is no guarantee if they will capable far to run in the Champions League this season, since the beginning of the Champions League match, every team will get a strong opponent or equivalent because the Champions League filled by the best team in Europe and that is different from the Europa League which only contained a few big teams so far.

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Quote from: salad daging on September 06, 2024, 11:11:26 AM

The Europa League is different again from the Champions League especially now with the new format I think it will be even tighter while we know Atalanta so far in Serie A are still bad they lost to Inter Milan badly and lost again to Torino.

Not underestimating Atalanta but the reality is it will be more difficult but I see the fixture with Arsenal will be more complicated than before with Leverkusen during the Europa League final.
So far there are no big expectations from Atalanta, considering some of the teams they sold of course the squad now will be different from before, but I want to see the action to see how far Atalanta go in the Champions League.

Usually teams that does better than expected gets their players either transferred out for a lot of money, or they use their new money to build a new squad as well, get better players and it takes time to adjust and get used to or even maybe fail.

Atalanta lost just one important player, but got many players and they are not looking good for the time being, maybe they will be great soon, or maybe they will be terrible, I do not know because these things take time but it's clear that we are not seeing the Atalanta from last season. They do have a chance to maybe go to next stage at UCL if they get any better, but I think Gasperini has a lot more things he needs to take care of this season compared to last season, he has to deal with more issues.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 06, 2024, 10:49:06 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on September 06, 2024, 01:49:01 AM

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Anyway, Atalanta must minimize defeats if they intend to survive and also because the intensity of their training must be increased from now on.

Don't underestimate Atalanta, if you see their path they are a very tough team to face. The match against Real Madrid was mentioned, but just look at how he did in the Europa League.
They weren't all bad opponents and so in my opinion he has the chance to do very well. Of course I don't think he'll reach the semi-finals

UCL is a prestigious competition, all participants are the best clubs in their respective leagues, as well as Atalanta who were crowned Europa League champions after defeating Leverkusen. Atalanta is a new participant at this different level, they are ready to give maximum resistance, the ambition to qualify for the next phase is the main goal, a tough opponent is waiting. Facing Arsenal in the first match is clearly a tough challenge, but here I will not say Atalanta can win, but if targeting a draw it can be said to have a chance.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 06, 2024, 11:54:26 AM

Statistics say that Real Madrid is the best club in its consistency in the Champions League and also in La Liga, it can be seen from the number of times they can win the Champions League title and their consistent performance in La Liga. So with that I say that they are indeed the best club in the domestic league and in European competitions. This season they are also the favorites to win the Champions League again although that does not fully guarantee that they can do it again, because the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Moreover, they have not yet found their best game in La Liga, it's just that the Champions League has not started yet, therefore they still have enough time to fix it.

There records speaks volume, Even this season they've even made it more difficult for other teams contending with them in any of the competition they're involved to match shoulders with them and with Mbappe coming into the club, I doubt if there is any team that will be meeting Real Madrid now that won't be playing them with great fears, this alone has given them an edge to gain advantage over every other clubs out there to potentially win their matches.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 06, 2024, 11:55:35 AM

If I remember correctly, bookmakers rate Liverpool as 5-7 title contenders. Yes, luck may smile on them (if Real is eliminated before a personal meeting with Liverpool), but still, the strategy for the season is built around the national championship, since the Champions League is random. In any case, the group stage of the Champions League is not the stage where clubs play at full strength or show their cards.

The UEFA Champions League group stage is simply nothing, there'd always heavy presence of opposing threats and actions from clubs. There's always momentum for these clubs to fight for crucial points and winning is among their priorities. We know clubs that will enchanced their performance until they're in the top phases in the UEFA Champions League. It's going to be entertaining to watch these clubs become very elite and competitive because everyone keen on winning.

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The fact that the odds are moving in favor of Milan is a bad sign (if you are going to bet on Liverpool), usually such a movement (even a small one) means that the bookmakers have "changed" their mind. I don't think Liverpool will aim for a 100% result in the Champions League group stage, as the Premier League remains their priority. It seems to me that even a coefficient of 2.0 here does not compensate for the risk.

Liverpool are still sharp and strong despite the fact that their focus might be on the premier league, I think they would still give their best towards the winning of the champions league which they are very capable of and I know with the way they started their season they can do something to surprise most of the big teams in champions league like real Madrid who have been struggling of lately.

If I remember correctly, bookmakers rate Liverpool as 5-7 title contenders. Yes, luck may smile on them (if Real is eliminated before a personal meeting with Liverpool), but still, the strategy for the season is built around the national championship, since the Champions League is random. In any case, the group stage of the Champions League is not the stage where clubs play at full strength or show their cards.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on September 06, 2024, 05:53:55 AM

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When Mbappe joined Real Madrid at the beginning of the season, everyone was so sure that they'd be off to a flying start. I know they did win the super cup but their recent performances have been nothing to write home about especially with the quality of squad they constantly field when they go up against any team.

The UCL is yet to start but I'm pretty sure Real Madrid will go very far this season unless they improve and the team can understood itself because there was a similar situation like this when PSH had Mbappe, Messi abd Neymar on their team. Everyone thought they'd win it that year for sure but it's not always as it seems and Real Madrid is just the signs already. My thesis is wrong only if the Don finds a way to get his team back to strong, consistent winning days.

I dont compare La Liga to UCL competition when it comes to Real Madrid. They are one team I can vouch for, and you can't see them perform badly when they are playing in the UCL. Sometimes they can be wavering in La Liga but these players are experienced in the Champions League with so much belief that they can win. Let's see how it goes it will take a little time for the team and everyone to create a bond with each other based on the recent adjustment. However, their squad is still the best currently in football. Hopefully, they will win the La Liga and Champions League again. I strongly believed in them and I have placed a bet on them as my favorite team to win the both competition.

Statistics say that Real Madrid is the best club in its consistency in the Champions League and also in La Liga, it can be seen from the number of times they can win the Champions League title and their consistent performance in La Liga. So with that I say that they are indeed the best club in the domestic league and in European competitions. This season they are also the favorites to win the Champions League again although that does not fully guarantee that they can do it again, because the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Moreover, they have not yet found their best game in La Liga, it's just that the Champions League has not started yet, therefore they still have enough time to fix it.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 06, 2024, 10:49:06 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on September 06, 2024, 01:49:01 AM

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Anyway, Atalanta must minimize defeats if they intend to survive and also because the intensity of their training must be increased from now on.

Don't underestimate Atalanta, if you see their path they are a very tough team to face. The match against Real Madrid was mentioned, but just look at how he did in the Europa League.
They weren't all bad opponents and so in my opinion he has the chance to do very well. Of course I don't think he'll reach the semi-finals

The Europa League is different again from the Champions League especially now with the new format I think it will be even tighter while we know Atalanta so far in Serie A are still bad they lost to Inter Milan badly and lost again to Torino.

Not underestimating Atalanta but the reality is it will be more difficult but I see the fixture with Arsenal will be more complicated than before with Leverkusen during the Europa League final.
So far there are no big expectations from Atalanta, considering some of the teams they sold of course the squad now will be different from before, but I want to see the action to see how far Atalanta go in the Champions League.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 06, 2024, 10:08:15 AM

It was actually a bit surprising when Madrid started their campaign this season with an unstable performance, because Ancelotti has the ideal squad depth. However, sometimes not all plans can run smoothly as expected, because everything takes time to process, I think this condition is very natural, and I also assume that Ancelotti squad will soon recover and go through this phase with ease. Madrid is used to going through every pressure in every season, and Ancelotti has a wealth of experience to guide his troops back on track.

If Ancelotti finds his squad back in good condition, I believe Madrid can perform consistently in the future in various competitions. Currently, at least 7 Madrid players are injured, with varying recovery times. But once again, Ancelotti has a number of rotation options that are almost as good, so there is no excessive worry about them. In addition, Mbappe has shown signs of being on fire, chemistry with other players is starting to form, and I predict that the former PSG striker can have a significant influence on Madrid goal productivity this season.

Madrid has always been able to overcome pressure in the competition, they are truly extraordinary. but it must be admitted that Madrid this time will face quite difficult teams too. Madrid must be able to beat Stuttgart, Lille, Dortmund, Milan, Liverpool, Atalanta, Salzburg, and Brest.
This is a not-so-good first round for them, but a more interesting system when bringing together strong teams at the beginning without worrying about them being eliminated early. but I'm sure Ancelotti also has to work extra hard to prepare his players. I hope some of the injured will recover soon and succeed in supporting the team. because with the density of matches of course the strategy of rotating players will be very important. and strong teams like Madrid are certainly more favored.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 06, 2024, 01:49:01 AM

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Anyway, Atalanta must minimize defeats if they intend to survive and also because the intensity of their training must be increased from now on.

Don't underestimate Atalanta, if you see their path they are a very tough team to face. The match against Real Madrid was mentioned, but just look at how he did in the Europa League.
They weren't all bad opponents and so in my opinion he has the chance to do very well. Of course I don't think he'll reach the semi-finals

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Quote from: mamesso on September 06, 2024, 10:18:11 AM

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If it turns out Atlanta win Liverpool I may not be very surprised but then I will believe it's probably a lucky day for Atlanta, in champions league it's usually a very different spirit altogether because they know how prestigious the trophy is, Liverpool is a much very and experienced team in the champions league than Atlanta and this has been the reason Liverpool has been seen as the favourite. Atlanta have a sound confidence currently dues to the fact that they win the Europa and even this season they are starting on a good start but then champions league is really different.

The incident occurred last season, it must be admitted, Atalanta performed very well last season especially when playing in the Europa League. I don't think the victory over Liverpool was just luck because in the final they also managed to beat Leverkusen and became the only team that was able to beat Xabi Alonso's team.
Now that we have entered a new season, usually the team will experience a decline in performance or vice versa, but what is happening to Atalanta now is no longer the same as last season, their performance is starting to decline and it is predicted that they will have difficulties in the Champions League. Although Atalanta came to the Champions League as winners of the Europa League last season, this achievement was not enough to compete with other strong teams, especially since their experience in this major competition is still very minimal.

Atalanta was in a good form last season and that was why they were able to beat Liverpool and Leverkusen in finals to win the cup. The club sold some of their players and that affected the team performance. It is a shock to see how a strong team became so weak without playing matches. It seems that Italy teams can be very strong today and become vegetables tomorrow. This was what happened to Napoli too last season.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 05, 2024, 05:00:46 PM

If it turns out Atlanta win Liverpool I may not be very surprised but then I will believe it's probably a lucky day for Atlanta, in champions league it's usually a very different spirit altogether because they know how prestigious the trophy is, Liverpool is a much very and experienced team in the champions league than Atlanta and this has been the reason Liverpool has been seen as the favourite. Atlanta have a sound confidence currently dues to the fact that they win the Europa and even this season they are starting on a good start but then champions league is really different.

The incident occurred last season, it must be admitted, Atalanta performed very well last season especially when playing in the Europa League. I don't think the victory over Liverpool was just luck because in the final they also managed to beat Leverkusen and became the only team that was able to beat Xabi Alonso's team.
Now that we have entered a new season, usually the team will experience a decline in performance or vice versa, but what is happening to Atalanta now is no longer the same as last season, their performance is starting to decline and it is predicted that they will have difficulties in the Champions League. Although Atalanta came to the Champions League as winners of the Europa League last season, this achievement was not enough to compete with other strong teams, especially since their experience in this major competition is still very minimal.

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