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June 18, 2024, 01:56:58 PM
yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure
Spanish clubs dominates when we're talking about UEFA titles but we should also consider other tactical clubs that fought really hard to make accomplishment for their targets. Bayer Leverkusen was the best but we shouldn't grab too much key details because there's actually basic information to explore. The UEFA Champions League winner will always stand tall enough because there's actually more to accomplish and comply with. European clubs have taken upon themselves to grow and they will hits harder next season.

Based on Bayern Leverkusen's success last season, I am certain that they will do well in the Champions League and possibly reach the final. Because of how well they performed in the Bundesliga last season without losing a match, and if Atalanta has luck and breaks their unbeaten streak in the Europa League, and Xavi Alonso is still the coach next season, they will most likely perform well and challenge the big clubs in the Champions League next season as well, because I enjoy how they perform and play on the pitch.

Let's see if they can win the Champions League next season although it won't be simple. If Manchester City and Madrid are already eliminated, we can guess that Leverkusen will win the trophy. Because I did not see any performance, I believe Barcelona will face PSG in the Champions League next season because they are not prepared to win the title. PSG no longer has any major players in their squad the only one is Mbappe, who has left for Real Madrid. Can they add a significant player like Mbappe next season and compete in the Champions League, Barcelona may not win any titles if they do not get crucial players  to the team.
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June 18, 2024, 01:39:23 PM
For the betterment of Atletico Madrid, Semione should be replaced with young manager with good coaching skills.
Considering how long he manages Atletico Madrid, some of their systems should be designed around Simeone so replacing him would take time. I wonder if the fans want that though. By fans, I mean those who travel and buy tickets to watch them play, not social media darlings who speak about "we are in a crisis" whenever their favorite team loses. Most of the time they're farming for views with their terrible analysis of a match.

Aiming for trophies is a good thing, especially if it's a CL trophy. The question is whether replacing a coach will magically answer that or not (probably not).
He is about to get a pay cut, so it is going to be a bit more helpful for the team to keep him for longer. He is aware that if he keeps failing to win the title, or have any good results at Europe, then paying him that much will not be ok for the team and will be fired.

So he rather gets like a long five year deal, for lesser amount of money, and he will be doing a lot better that way, because then even if he doesn't do that great, he could still keep managing since he is not getting paid absurd amount of money. He will still be paid somewhere along 15-17 million range, but not 30+ range like he used to, which means nearly half gone. I do not see any reason for the team to fire him yet neither, he is doing decent, will be better eventually.
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June 18, 2024, 11:46:43 AM
It cannot be denied that another reason he moved to Real Madrid was that he wanted to win lots of trophies and the pinnacle of his individual achievement was the Ballon D'or, and that was very natural because he was a talented young man. My prediction is that Mbappe will quickly adapt to Real Madrid's game because he fits very well into coach Ancelotti's scheme with players who have high speed.

Mbappe made a right choice choosing real Madrid because is only real Madrid that can make him become what he wants to, actually is already obvious that mbappe has been targeting to win the Ballon D'or because he has already mentioned it ones that he wish to win the Ballon D'or in the future and also breaking some of Cristiano Ronaldo record and by achieving it he needs to leave PSG because they are not strong enough to give him what he wants on his career because only wining the French league may not really improve his career because with the performance of PSG even winning the upcoming champions League is not even possible but with real Madrid mbappe will surely win the Ballon D'or in the future.
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June 18, 2024, 11:34:53 AM
I can say that Atletico Madrid looks like a club that only fills the top of the standings and the knockout stages of the Champions League but they don't have the capacity to become champions. I don't know why I saw it like that. Atletico Madrid were champions in the 2020/2021 season but after that they were only competitors in La Liga. I also see that Simeone always uses the same tactics and is not very effective. But I don't think we can blame Simeone because he managed to get Atletico Madrid to play in the UCL almost every season with players who I think are not quite great players.
So far Atletico Madrid has been able to be consistent enough qualify in the Champions League every season, but before and after they won the championship in the 2021 season, they are like a team that is no longer able to even reach the semifinals, what you say seems to be true, because so far every season we have not seen many changes that have occurred in the strategy and also the game scheme of Atletico Madrid,  Regarding their ability to continue to qualify for the Champions League, of course it is their squad which is indeed somewhat better than other teams in La Liga apart from Madrid and also Barcelona at the moment, I think we can't deny that if La Liga is not too competitive, of course it makes Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico easily qualify for the Champions League so far.

Next season Atletico will compete again in the Champions League, but it seems that their achievements are not better than this season achievements, Atletico so far is still very pasif in terms of strengthening their squad and even now it seems that they do not have a target player who will indeed be recruited to strengthen the team next season, so indeed we don't need to expect much if their are able to surprise us in the Champions League later.
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June 18, 2024, 11:27:41 AM
One season has just ended and the teams have started preparing for another season. It happens every season that when a team exits the Champions League group stage in the quarter-finals or semi-finals, they start planning to improve the next season from there. Manchester City Bayern Munich were the favorites this season but they lost so they will definitely try to do well in the Champions League next season. Real Madrid have strengthened their squad so expectations are high from them next season.

Not long ago the season ended and every club will focus on making preparations against next season. During this period, they have to analyze previous games to know where their faults are coming from and the steps they need to take, and that is how clubs that want to improve should behave, I don't even have business with Bayern the club I have business with is Manchester City. I was surprised that we were evicted by Real Madrid, but it's nothing new, and there is still next season. The city loves challenges, and now they feel like they belong, which makes everything more interesting. We are meeting next season to see who is going to be the best. and everyone will now be in serious preparation because their whole involvement in participation is to win the trophy so everyone is going to try their best to win whatever league they are playing in. I already miss games and can not wait for next season to start because that is what gives us joy and there will be enough games to gamble on. can wait for next season to start.
When every team finishes a season and plans for a new season, everyone hopes that they will do well in the next season. Every team that plays in the Champions League tries to make the team with their maximum. Maybe big teams and other teams are not successful in integrating players because they have many problems in this regard. There are some teams that have financial problems but have the will but not the means and there are some teams that have a good amount of players but no quality manager at their club. However, the upcoming season will be more competitive but we expect it because when the competition is tough, the excitement of the game reaches its peak.
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June 18, 2024, 11:10:39 AM
I'm just praying the transfer of Mbape to Madrid shouldnt cause any problem among the players at Madrid because Mbape is known for his pride and arrogance,and mark of respect,he might get to Madrid and start feeling that he is more superior to other players in the team.I thank God for Bellingham who is now a candidate for the Ballon D'or,and he might win it.I believe the main reason why Mbape is even moving there is because he wants to win the Ballon'Or,but if he gets to Madrid and doesn't perform the way that he will be eligible,then he will still miss it.
I believe Mbappe will be on good behavior than showing pride in Real Madrid because he'll be meeting other classic players like him who have won Champions League titles more than once. So, there'll be no need to feel superior to other players who have made names and history in Real Madrid.
Every player in Real Madrid knows what they truly want to actualize from Real Madrid ''lifting trophies and winning Ballon d'Or". However, having a bad character of pride would be what Ancelotti would not condone from his team players
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June 18, 2024, 10:42:24 AM
Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.
I can say that Atletico Madrid looks like a club that only fills the top of the standings and the knockout stages of the Champions League but they don't have the capacity to become champions. I don't know why I saw it like that. Atletico Madrid were champions in the 2020/2021 season but after that they were only competitors in La Liga. I also see that Simeone always uses the same tactics and is not very effective. But I don't think we can blame Simeone because he managed to get Atletico Madrid to play in the UCL almost every season with players who I think are not quite great players.
Atletico Madrid used to be the major contenders in the UEFA Champions League competition but in recent seasons they've failed to deliver good performances in the competition and that's why a lot of people are of the opinion that they now come to make up the numbers and shouldn't be considered as a strong contender for the European title again. After they struggled in the middle of last season, Atletico Madrid were still able to make it to the top four of the Spanish La Liga at the end of the just concluded season which automatically qualifies them to play in the competition again next season.
The club management is very happy with the presence of Diego Simeone as the club manager and doesn't have any plan of sacking him anytime soon so I strongly believe that Atletico Madrid will continue to be more of a pretender than a serious contender for the UEFA Champions League title come next season because we have other clubs with more quality of players and determination to win the trophy than Atletico does.
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June 18, 2024, 10:36:51 AM
Mbappe's time at PSG was uncontrolled and arrogant due to a lot of pressure. Many media only report on Mbappe from the bad side even though we all know he is like that because of a lot of pressure from the club owner. But now that he is free from this pressure after joining Real Madrid, he admits that he is very happy to finally be able to join Real Madrid and be free from the shackles of PSG. He will not disappoint Perez and Real Madrid, he will do his best for Real Madrid because Real Madrid is his childhood dream team. So, as you say, he is worried that he will cause problems at Real Madrid, this seems unlikely to happen, especially because he is old enough to control his emotions.

It cannot be denied that another reason he moved to Real Madrid was that he wanted to win lots of trophies and the pinnacle of his individual achievement was the Ballon D'or, and that was very natural because he was a talented young man. My prediction is that Mbappe will quickly adapt to Real Madrid's game because he fits very well into coach Ancelotti's scheme with players who have high speed.

The boy was literally doing what he likes and I don’t think any club will treat him better than psg, and if it’s about pressure I don’t see anything bad from the pressure they are given him, the boy is good so they want him to do his best because that is what is been paid to do. And his stay with psg will be the best because even his pay was very much okay, he had only one duty to perform which was for him to do better,  and even if his happy he still needs to do better, and everyone knows that one of Mbappé dream is to join Real Madrid and since the dream is now reality. The only thing I have to say is that Mbappé needs to work with his newly team mates to archive more trophies because one key thing is team work if the players have good team work then they have less problems to deal with, and since is not his first time of playing that shouldn’t be a problem.

I love the fact that Mbappé has goals he wants to archive even has young as he is, and he knows that only in Real Madrid he will be able to win those trophies and if it Ballon D'or then it is something he can win he just needs to push him sell hard since he is now in Madrid and as for psg can not really say much since Mbappé have even left the club. Mbappé and Ancelotti we work together since they already have a target they want to meet Ancelotti needs more trophy in collection too.
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June 18, 2024, 10:33:11 AM
Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.
I can say that Atletico Madrid looks like a club that only fills the top of the standings and the knockout stages of the Champions League but they don't have the capacity to become champions. I don't know why I saw it like that. Atletico Madrid were champions in the 2020/2021 season but after that they were only competitors in La Liga. I also see that Simeone always uses the same tactics and is not very effective. But I don't think we can blame Simeone because he managed to get Atletico Madrid to play in the UCL almost every season with players who I think are not quite great players.
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June 18, 2024, 09:42:55 AM
Of course, Mbappe has joined the right team, because by joining Real Madrid there is a big opportunity for him to win a title that he has not achieved before. With Real Madrid being a strong and good squad, of course this will enable him to win the title he wants, what's more, he himself is a player who has good qualities in his role, of course Mbappe will help Real Madrid's attack line become more aggressive. Their chances of dominating the Champions League can already be seen, but even in football anything can happen and maybe there will be another team that can match Real Madrid, but I think that's unlikely.
Many people have been saying that for a long time, if Kylian Mbappe was at Real Madrid, he was at the right club that met his playing quality standards because at PSG he was just wasting his hidden talent because PSG is not a club capable of awarding prestigious titles and PSG's success so far cannot be separated from Mbappe's big contribution to the club so I think PSG will have difficulty achieving success again if Mbappe is gone and I'm not sure that in the Champions League next season PSG can reach the quarter-finals like last season since Mbappe is still at the club PSG's chances of winning the Champions League title if there is no Mbappe at the club

Mbappe at Real Madrid will make Real Madrid's performance sharper and the opportunity to win the Champions League title is wide open because Real Madrid's attack line will be stronger, but it's true, as you said, anything can happen because we also can't be sure what next season will be like. Either Real Madrid's mainstay squad will be in good health and not suffer any injuries during the competition because if one of Real Madrid's mainstay players is injured it will affect their performance and it will also affect their chances of winning again.
I'm just praying the transfer of Mbape to Madrid shouldnt cause any problem among the players at Madrid because Mbape is known for his pride and arrogance,and mark of respect,he might get to Madrid and start feeling that he is more superior to other players in the team.I thank God for Bellingham who is now a candidate for the Ballon D'or,and he might win it.I believe the main reason why Mbape is even moving there is because he wants to win the Ballon'Or,but if he gets to Madrid and doesn't perform the way that he will be eligible,then he will still miss it.
Mbappe's time at PSG was uncontrolled and arrogant due to a lot of pressure. Many media only report on Mbappe from the bad side even though we all know he is like that because of a lot of pressure from the club owner. But now that he is free from this pressure after joining Real Madrid, he admits that he is very happy to finally be able to join Real Madrid and be free from the shackles of PSG. He will not disappoint Perez and Real Madrid, he will do his best for Real Madrid because Real Madrid is his childhood dream team. So, as you say, he is worried that he will cause problems at Real Madrid, this seems unlikely to happen, especially because he is old enough to control his emotions.

It cannot be denied that another reason he moved to Real Madrid was that he wanted to win lots of trophies and the pinnacle of his individual achievement was the Ballon D'or, and that was very natural because he was a talented young man. My prediction is that Mbappe will quickly adapt to Real Madrid's game because he fits very well into coach Ancelotti's scheme with players who have high speed.

You are right I also agree that Mbappe was under a lot of pressure when he was at PSG. However, it can be argued that Mbappe is very happy at Real Madrid at the moment and it will be very interesting for him to fulfill his childhood dream. Of course now in Real Madrid Mbappe will play and he will not have to take so much pressure but he will be free of pressure, also we have seen before in PSG to be disciplined and under pressure but now in Real Madrid he will not have to be under so much pressure. And I believe Mbappé is still a young and dynamic player who will definitely contribute well to Real Madrid. Moreover, he will definitely be able to improve his career at Real Madrid and have a chance to win the Ballon d'Or. Mbappe will now be with Real Madrid with his full talent and make the team even stronger. Moreover, if he can adapt to the coach and players of Real Madrid, he will definitely be able to improve his career in the future.
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June 18, 2024, 09:27:52 AM
Atletico madrid is still on their capacity to "exist", not on "win" the champion league. Diego simeone, as atletico madrid's coach never had a great expectation for his club in UCL; therefore, even though they were not favorite to do this, atletico madrid still has little opportunity to win UCL.

Although the officials of Atletico madrid were always improving their teams, their efforts were pointless since the gamplay and strategy of the simeone remain the same. When atletico madrid advanced to any level in the champion league, such quarter or semi finals, ATM officials feel good enough.

With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.

What you say is true, I also pay attention to Atletico Madrid every time they enter the UCL and being able to reach the quarter finals is nothing surprising anymore. Their performance remains like that, the same and no different from the previous season. It's as if Simeone hasn't developed this club well, the strategy is monotonous, while in terms of player capacity more or less changing with new ones, the level of effectiveness is still not increasing sharply. Atletico Madrid seems to be stagnant or really needs a new coach who has different ambitions and ideas from Simeone. Honestly if Atletico Madrid wants to appear to be developing, maybe it's time to think about a new, more modern manager with a variety of strategies.

Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.

yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure
It's definitely true, atalanta and leverkusen can reach quarter final; However, the competition is getting tougher with the implementation of the new format of UCL. In fact, competing in UCL is far tougher compared to the europa league, and these clubs(atalanta/leverkusen) will have tougher opponents. Ultimately, to reach the quarter final, they shall have worked even harder.
UCL is a different competition from Europa and one must not just conclude that because Atalanta and Leverkusen made history last season means that they will go as far as reaching the quarter finals. It depends on the group that they will be in if the clubs are weak in their groups.if it happens that they are in a strong group, they might survive or not. Also if they did not meet one of the strongest teams in the round of 16, they will reach the quarter finals.

Real Madrid still have the high chance of becoming the winner of UCL next season because they have made proper preparations on defending the title next season by equipping the club with Mbappe and Endrick. Any club that can win the champions league from them next season will need to do extraordinary things.
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June 18, 2024, 09:26:11 AM
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If Simeone changes his playing style every season, it is likely that this team will look more interesting to watch this team compete, but so far what I have seen is not much different from before, what is due to poor financial support and players that make Atletico Madrid is a team that doesn't have a clear vision and mission in winning titles in every competition in several seasons or indeed Simeone doesn't instill a winning mentality in all his players so they often experience failure when playing in important matches so they don't have the confidence to win titles and win. in matches, for example the final match in determining the champion, they often fail.
Unfortunately that's not possible because each coach has his own guidelines for playing style and it's not as easy as ripping paper and attaching it again with glue to make it look intact. The only thing Simione can do is ask the club owner to bring in players according to the club's needs because we know that so far Simione has only resigned himself to the management's selection of players.

This could hinder Simione's performance from being optimal and if we look at other coaches who are supported by the players they are targeting then the results will also be satisfactory. So again, Atletico is actually one of the teams to be reckoned with in this competition, it's just that they don't get the proper support.
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yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure
Spanish clubs dominates when we're talking about UEFA titles but we should also consider other tactical clubs that fought really hard to make accomplishment for their targets. Bayer Leverkusen was the best but we shouldn't grab too much key details because there's actually basic information to explore. The UEFA Champions League winner will always stand tall enough because there's actually more to accomplish and comply with. European clubs have taken upon themselves to grow and they will hits harder next season.
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June 18, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
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I'm just praying the transfer of Mbape to Madrid shouldnt cause any problem among the players at Madrid because Mbape is known for his pride and arrogance,and mark of respect,he might get to Madrid and start feeling that he is more superior to other players in the team.I thank God for Bellingham who is now a candidate for the Ballon D'or,and he might win it.I believe the main reason why Mbape is even moving there is because he wants to win the Ballon'Or,but if he gets to Madrid and doesn't perform the way that he will be eligible,then he will still miss it.
Yes, hopefully Mbappe's move to Real Madrid will not cause serious problems regarding his self-esteem and selfishness. As a new player coming to the club he should show humility and respect for his club mates so that his club mates like his arrival and try to give their best so that the club can be successful, don't be selfish only think about yourself just because performance is very good, but being in a different club, you also need adaptation and cooperation between your friends and you also need the guidance of a coach, you have to obey the rules at Real Madrid.

Regarding the Ballon D'or candidates, Mbappe is also included in the Ballon D'or candidates, so Mbappe still has a chance to get the title, so in fact Mbappe's priority in coming to Real Madrid is not only to compete with his club mates, but also to get the most prestigious award in Europe, namely Champions League, an individual award is just a bonus if his performance is very good at Real Madrid. If his club mates also perform well then there is no guarantee that he will win the individual title. The most important thing is that Real Madrid players show each other their best contribution without feeling like they are being competed against.
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June 18, 2024, 08:35:12 AM
Atletico madrid is still on their capacity to "exist", not on "win" the champion league. Diego simeone, as atletico madrid's coach never had a great expectation for his club in UCL; therefore, even though they were not favorite to do this, atletico madrid still has little opportunity to win UCL.

Although the officials of Atletico madrid were always improving their teams, their efforts were pointless since the gamplay and strategy of the simeone remain the same. When atletico madrid advanced to any level in the champion league, such quarter or semi finals, ATM officials feel good enough.

With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.

What you say is true, I also pay attention to Atletico Madrid every time they enter the UCL and being able to reach the quarter finals is nothing surprising anymore. Their performance remains like that, the same and no different from the previous season. It's as if Simeone hasn't developed this club well, the strategy is monotonous, while in terms of player capacity more or less changing with new ones, the level of effectiveness is still not increasing sharply. Atletico Madrid seems to be stagnant or really needs a new coach who has different ambitions and ideas from Simeone. Honestly if Atletico Madrid wants to appear to be developing, maybe it's time to think about a new, more modern manager with a variety of strategies.

Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.

yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure

The Spanish team is still dominating the UCL. Europe is not a major deal for the Spanish squad ; if not, Real Madrid would not have won 15 UCL trophies. Many clubs are growing together; nonetheless, Real Madrid continues to dominate the UCL. I believe Real Madrid can still maintain its dominance.
After signing Mbappe as a new attacker, Madrid now lacks a worthy opponent in UCL;as a result, real madrid will still dominate UCL, it has biggest probability to defend UCL trophy they won last season. 

It's definitely true, atalanta and leverkusen can reach quarter final; However, the competition is getting tougher with the implementation of the new format of UCL. In fact, competing in UCL is far tougher compared to the europa league, and these clubs(atalanta/leverkusen) will have tougher opponents. Ultimately, to reach the quarter final, they shall have worked even harder.
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June 18, 2024, 08:28:31 AM
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yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure
He is continuing the discussion on the post he quoted, it is very natural if he talks about Atletico Madrid or other Spanish teams. Everyone also knows that the UCL is not only attended by teams from Spain, there are so many other teams taking part in enlivening the UCL from different countries. In the modern era of football there are so many teams that are developing, Leverkusen is an example of a team from Germany that has recently achieved success at domestic level. Atalanta also just won the Europa League, which means they hold tickets to the UCL through a special route.

Atletico Madrid are very experienced in the UCL because almost every year they always take part in the competition, but their achievement is only being able to reach the quarter-finals, they have also reached the final but failed to become champions. Simeone who is responsible for this team, must make changes to the squad he leads, he must slowly improve Atletico quality to compete with teams from other leagues.
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With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.

I think it's true that if Simeone doesn't train Atletico Madrid, is it possible that Atletico Madrid will experience changes, whereas what Atletico Madrid has shown so far is boring in terms of strategy, which is always the same and doesn't change every season, even though they often replace several new players in the main squad. That's why there are still many questions about whether Atletico Madrid can do without Simeone, even though so far they remain a difficult team even though they rarely win competitions.

If Simeone changes his playing style every season, it is likely that this team will look more interesting to watch this team compete, but so far what I have seen is not much different from before, what is due to poor financial support and players that make Atletico Madrid is a team that doesn't have a clear vision and mission in winning titles in every competition in several seasons or indeed Simeone doesn't instill a winning mentality in all his players so they often experience failure when playing in important matches so they don't have the confidence to win titles and win. in matches, for example the final match in determining the champion, they often fail.
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June 18, 2024, 07:42:01 AM
Atletico madrid is still on their capacity to "exist", not on "win" the champion league. Diego simeone, as atletico madrid's coach never had a great expectation for his club in UCL; therefore, even though they were not favorite to do this, atletico madrid still has little opportunity to win UCL.

Although the officials of Atletico madrid were always improving their teams, their efforts were pointless since the gamplay and strategy of the simeone remain the same. When atletico madrid advanced to any level in the champion league, such quarter or semi finals, ATM officials feel good enough.

With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.

What you say is true, I also pay attention to Atletico Madrid every time they enter the UCL and being able to reach the quarter finals is nothing surprising anymore. Their performance remains like that, the same and no different from the previous season. It's as if Simeone hasn't developed this club well, the strategy is monotonous, while in terms of player capacity more or less changing with new ones, the level of effectiveness is still not increasing sharply. Atletico Madrid seems to be stagnant or really needs a new coach who has different ambitions and ideas from Simeone. Honestly if Atletico Madrid wants to appear to be developing, maybe it's time to think about a new, more modern manager with a variety of strategies.

Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.

yes but you are only talking about Spanish teams, remember that Europe is big and that the big teams are not always the best or win the most, there are many teams that are growing in Europe, think that Leverkusen or Atalanta are not they can reach the champion's quarterfinals, well the answer for me is definitely yes considering that even teams like Bologna can do really badly I would be very careful about Italy this year too, we'll see some good ones that's for sure
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June 18, 2024, 07:31:18 AM
Atletico madrid is still on their capacity to "exist", not on "win" the champion league. Diego simeone, as atletico madrid's coach never had a great expectation for his club in UCL; therefore, even though they were not favorite to do this, atletico madrid still has little opportunity to win UCL.

Although the officials of Atletico madrid were always improving their teams, their efforts were pointless since the gamplay and strategy of the simeone remain the same. When atletico madrid advanced to any level in the champion league, such quarter or semi finals, ATM officials feel good enough.

With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.

What you say is true, I also pay attention to Atletico Madrid every time they enter the UCL and being able to reach the quarter finals is nothing surprising anymore. Their performance remains like that, the same and no different from the previous season. It's as if Simeone hasn't developed this club well, the strategy is monotonous, while in terms of player capacity more or less changing with new ones, the level of effectiveness is still not increasing sharply. Atletico Madrid seems to be stagnant or really needs a new coach who has different ambitions and ideas from Simeone. Honestly if Atletico Madrid wants to appear to be developing, maybe it's time to think about a new, more modern manager with a variety of strategies.

Domestic clubs especially rivals Madrid, continue to develop, Barcelona is also trying to cover all its shortcomings, even with limited players and limited funds, but there are always different things every season and with the arrival of Girona they also starting to be considered worthy competitors next season. Therefore if Atletico Madrid does not upgrade its players and coaches next season this club could be left behind by its rivals.
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June 18, 2024, 06:13:30 AM
If we are talking about Atletico Madrid's chance to win a Champions League title, then I don't think it will happen in the near future.  Smiley  While Real Madrid is getting Mbappe and there is a Manchester City fact too, it is really not easy to reach the title. Besides Atletico Madrid's lowest expectation in this tournament isn't winning the title. Even a quarter finals qualification is seen as good achievement.

The board are really contented with the way Simeone is managing the team. They even extended his contract not much time ago. Would he like to achieve a Champions League title? Who wouldn't?  Grin  But Atletico Madrid need to make a huge improvement to reach even the finale once again (The last time they did it was the 2015/2016 season).


Atletico madrid is still on their capacity to "exist", not on "win" the champion league. Diego simeone, as atletico madrid's coach never had a great expectation for his club in UCL; therefore, even though they were not favorite to do this, atletico madrid still has little opportunity to win UCL.

Although the officials of Atletico madrid were always improving their teams, their efforts were pointless since the gamplay and strategy of the simeone remain the same. When atletico madrid advanced to any level in the champion league, such quarter or semi finals, ATM officials feel good enough.

With the present team, Atletico Madrid lacks capacity to win the UCL. Atletico madrid made it to final at 15/16, really lucky. So in essence, all things considered, it makes little difference how much atletico madrid improves; uninspiring strategy and gameplay by Simeone will prevent them from winning UCL.
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