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The game is over and Lille won the game. It was a game in which Lille's players put a lot of pressure on Fenerbahce's defense. Throughout the half, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players rest, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players have space to attack or even counterattack. It seemed that Lille was willing to settle the game in the first leg. Unfortunately, Fenerbahce's defense made some mistakes that resulted in the first goal. Recovering the disadvantage was not an easy task for Fenerbahce. They only managed to score one goal in the 79th minute and it seemed that the game would end in a draw, which would be a very good scenario for Mourinho. But once again, Fenerbahce's defense made another mistake that allowed Lille to score a goal in the 90th minute +1 minute. In this type of high-level competition, there are mistakes that a team's defense cannot make. and now with this disadvantage it will be very difficult for Mourinho's team to reverse the result at home in the second leg.
I keep telling everyone, the Mourinho style of "park the bus" isn't as good as it used to be, hence why he sucked at United if you ask me (some say he was fine) and his roma period looked great on European competitions but they were secondary and third level competitions. This is champions league, teams that wants to go to UCL group stages will be quite high level and I think it's easy to predict that we are not going to get anything big from Mourinho if he keeps playing the same method, Roma time had trouble with league games too, just because of this reason.

I understand that he has this idea of lay back and only attack and preserve energy which makes other teams tired by the end and his teams more active during second half, but it may not work against better teams. This isn't to mean that Lille will win, second game could be a win for Fenerbahce, just saying it is not that easy to handle this.

I also agree with you, Mourinho needs to change his playing style, he needs to focus much more on attack than on defense. If he had invested more in Fenerbahce's attack then in this first leg game he wouldn't just be playing defense and being under a lot of pressure. He would have been playing in attack and would have forced the opponent to play in defense and Fenerbahce would probably be able to come out of that game with victory. but unfortunately he played more in defense, allowing the opponent to dominate the game and score 2 goals. I very much doubt that in the second leg Fenerbahce will be able to come out with a victory that reverses the entire tie and allows Fenerbahce to move on to another phase of this competition. in my opinion fenerbahce will be eliminated

Yes, I'm a Fenerbahçe fan.  Smiley  However we couldn't get an advantageous result in the first leg yesterday. But I can't say we didn't deserve it either. Because I didn't like our performance especially in defense. We had these issues from the start against Lugano. Mourinho's presence still makes me believe more. I hope we can turn things around in Istanbul. We will need to be more precise with finishing at the same time because we also wasted big chances.
This season, it's will be rough for Fenerbahçe because they will encounter fierce oppositions that wouldn't take it easy on them. They will have the to mount pressure if they're to stand on their ground. I'm not a fan of Turkish clubs because I'm not concerned regarding the status of the clubs performance and I based more on the european clubs. José Mourinho have done his best to his capabilities and ensuring the stability of Fenerbahçe.

These Fenerbhace defense players have made a lot of mistakes during the games in this competition, I thought they would do better after the serious mistakes they made in the first leg game against Lugano, but unfortunately they didn't improve at all. And the Champions League games are games in which teams cannot make the types of mistakes that Fenerbhace's defenders make
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Yes, I'm a Fenerbahçe fan.  Smiley  However we couldn't get an advantageous result in the first leg yesterday. But I can't say we didn't deserve it either. Because I didn't like our performance especially in defense. We had these issues from the start against Lugano. Mourinho's presence still makes me believe more. I hope we can turn things around in Istanbul. We will need to be more precise with finishing at the same time because we also wasted big chances.
This season, it's will be rough for Fenerbahçe because they will encounter fierce oppositions that wouldn't take it easy on them. They will have the to mount pressure if they're to stand on their ground. I'm not a fan of Turkish clubs because I'm not concerned regarding the status of the clubs performance and I based more on the european clubs. José Mourinho have done his best to his capabilities and ensuring the stability of Fenerbahçe.
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Shit I didn't know you were supporting Turkish team I always support French teams in European competitions so I was definitely thinking for Lille here but because of you, I will not bet on them Wink Lugano scoring 1 gave me a very precious BSFL point Wink

Mourinho is a blessing for all football, just don't let him have too much power after he wins something. You will progress don't worry!

Yes, I'm a Fenerbahçe fan.  Smiley  However we couldn't get an advantageous result in the first leg yesterday. But I can't say we didn't deserve it either. Because I didn't like our performance especially in defense. We had these issues from the start against Lugano. Mourinho's presence still makes me believe more. I hope we can turn things around in Istanbul. We will need to be more precise with finishing at the same time because we also wasted big chances.
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Didn't saw Lille - Fenerbahche game, so can't comment about it. Losing away to club from Top 5 league isn't tragedy, especially when you have 2nd leg at home. It will be very hot in Istanbul.
Rangers scoring goal on last minute and making score 1:1 is huge hit for Dynamo Kyiv. Sparta failing to win against FCSB is little upset. I don't know why bookmakers so clearly favoured Qarabag, but I wouldn't say that Ludogorets win is surprise.
From today's games expected plenty of goals in Jagiellonia - Bodo/Glimt game, but so far there was just 1.
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The game is over and Lille won the game. It was a game in which Lille's players put a lot of pressure on Fenerbahce's defense. Throughout the half, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players rest, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players have space to attack or even counterattack. It seemed that Lille was willing to settle the game in the first leg. Unfortunately, Fenerbahce's defense made some mistakes that resulted in the first goal. Recovering the disadvantage was not an easy task for Fenerbahce. They only managed to score one goal in the 79th minute and it seemed that the game would end in a draw, which would be a very good scenario for Mourinho. But once again, Fenerbahce's defense made another mistake that allowed Lille to score a goal in the 90th minute +1 minute. In this type of high-level competition, there are mistakes that a team's defense cannot make. and now with this disadvantage it will be very difficult for Mourinho's team to reverse the result at home in the second leg.
I keep telling everyone, the Mourinho style of "park the bus" isn't as good as it used to be, hence why he sucked at United if you ask me (some say he was fine) and his roma period looked great on European competitions but they were secondary and third level competitions. This is champions league, teams that wants to go to UCL group stages will be quite high level and I think it's easy to predict that we are not going to get anything big from Mourinho if he keeps playing the same method, Roma time had trouble with league games too, just because of this reason.

I understand that he has this idea of lay back and only attack and preserve energy which makes other teams tired by the end and his teams more active during second half, but it may not work against better teams. This isn't to mean that Lille will win, second game could be a win for Fenerbahce, just saying it is not that easy to handle this.
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Fenerbahçe will play Lille tonight, a strong opponent for Fenerbahçe, I hope they get a comfortable win. Lille will want to use their home advantage and win this match, Fenerbahçe needs to leave here with the worst draw, if they lose it will be difficult for them to win in Istanbul.

The game is over and Lille won the game. It was a game in which Lille's players put a lot of pressure on Fenerbahce's defense. Throughout the half, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players rest, they didn't let Fenerbahce's players have space to attack or even counterattack. It seemed that Lille was willing to settle the game in the first leg. Unfortunately, Fenerbahce's defense made some mistakes that resulted in the first goal. Recovering the disadvantage was not an easy task for Fenerbahce. They only managed to score one goal in the 79th minute and it seemed that the game would end in a draw, which would be a very good scenario for Mourinho. But once again, Fenerbahce's defense made another mistake that allowed Lille to score a goal in the 90th minute +1 minute. In this type of high-level competition, there are mistakes that a team's defense cannot make. and now with this disadvantage it will be very difficult for Mourinho's team to reverse the result at home in the second leg.
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It was a tough match for Fenerbahçe, they lost 2-1, not a bad score, they still have a chance in Istanbul.
Fenerbahçe conceded a goal tonight due to mistakes.
İrfan Can Kahveci scored a great goal.
Allan Saint-Maximin should definitely be warned, if he had passed the ball in the positions he was in, the match might not have ended with this score.
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Last week I was quite successful by going with over 2.5 goals and BTTS in many games. Going to repeatsomething similar. I pick BTTS in Dynamo Kyiv - Rangers, Salzburg - Twente and Malmo - PAOK.
And over 2.5 picks - Dynamo - Rangers, Qarabag - Ludogorets, Lille - Fenerbahche and maybe Midtjylland - Ferencvaros, not sure about that one yet.
And Sparta ML vs FCSB.
Plenty of good games to watch in this round already, going to watch some at least of these partially - Olympics is still priority.
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Fenerbahçe will play Lille tonight, a strong opponent for Fenerbahçe, I hope they get a comfortable win. Lille will want to use their home advantage and win this match, Fenerbahçe needs to leave here with the worst draw, if they lose it will be difficult for them to win in Istanbul.
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We didn't play a satisfying game against Lugano despite eliminating them. If we had a more challenging opponent then we might not have even reached next round.  Sad  Our next opponent is going to be Lille. There is a big difference after Lugano. We need to improve especially our defensive game while there are only 4 days left for the first leg in France. I believe in Mourinho to create the right strategies against Lille. We didn't open the season well maybe but we can still eliminate Lille too.

Shit I didn't know you were supporting Turkish team I always support French teams in European competitions so I was definitely thinking for Lille here but because of you, I will not bet on them Wink Lugano scoring 1 gave me a very precious BSFL point Wink

Mourinho is a blessing for all football, just don't let him have too much power after he wins something. You will progress don't worry!
legendary
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We didn't play a satisfying game against Lugano despite eliminating them. If we had a more challenging opponent then we might not have even reached next round.  Sad  Our next opponent is going to be Lille. There is a big difference after Lugano. We need to improve especially our defensive game while there are only 4 days left for the first leg in France. I believe in Mourinho to create the right strategies against Lille. We didn't open the season well maybe but we can still eliminate Lille too.
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Yesterday was good day for me in betting, so, I continue today. Few my picks for today's games : RFS Riga - Bodo/Glimt - over 2.5 and Bodo/Glimt ML. Partizan - Dynamo Kyiv - over 2.5, BTTS and Dynamo ML. Jagiellonia - Panevezys - over 2.5 goals. PAOK Ml vs Borac. And probably most vlauable bet today is Ludogorets ML vs Dinamo Minsk @1.88.
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PAOK will play tonight against Banja Luka, champions of Bosnia and Herzegovina, I think PAOK will win this match, their opponent is a weak team compared to them.

Ludogorest will play Dinamo Minsk, both teams play at the same level. Ludogorest is the favorite because they have home advantage.
Already playing an interesting match with both teams scoring at free will and currently at 5 goals already scored and I do have a feeling that there is still more coming although am certain that paok will win the game as they are playing from their home stadium. Tomorrow ties is very interesting as the games to be played are much and one can actually make some good selection that would yeild up some good profit if placed correctly.
They managed to beat Banja Luka 3-2 in the first leg but the game is now in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Banja Luka is in a slightly better position. I wouldn't be surprised if PAOK is eliminated. The Champions League qualifiers are exciting and PAOK would be a great success if they make it through. They are one of the best teams in the Greek Super League and an early exit would hurt them.
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Fenerbahçe will play their second match against Lugano tonight.
Fenerbahçe won the first match 4-3. I think they will win this match as well. I said they would win the first match easily but that didn't happen, I can't say they will win this match easily.
If Fenerbahçe wins the match tonight, their next opponent will be Lille.

Actually without being told Fenerbahçe will come out victorious but is certain they would have a difficult time on that match because considering the level of resistance Lugano had on them the last time is certain they may likely repeat the same thing because they must have worked on there club after losing there last match to try if they can hold Fenerbahçe to a draw but I don't think it will be possible for them because already Fenerbahçe took all there pre season matches very serious as if they are playing a tournament because there last three matches has involved a lot of goals against the clubs, so perhaps we should also expect the match to end either over 3.5 or over 4.5 because from the three matches they played is only one match the both side scored total of 4 goals if not is it was normally over 4.5.

It was another tough match for Fenerbahçe, Lugano scored the first goal early and things got tough for Fenerbahçe but Fenerbahçe somehow won the match.
Fenerbahçe is still a team that hasn't fully settled down, we see that on the field.
I hope we see a more prepared team against Lille, if not I think they have a very high chance of being eliminated.

my prediction on that match was actually right indeed, however for someone who wanted to bet on that match would have actually won there bet, however for those who love gambling during pre season they should watch out for Fenerbahçe because they are one of the most consistent team on this pre season so they would hardly lose any of there matches, however I was wrong on my over 3.5 prediction on that match because I was thinking they would even score more than expected but I never knew that Lugano came prepared and even manage to score the first goal of the match, well is obvious now that Fenerbahçe is far stronger than Lugano because there both performances has explained everything.
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~Fenerbahçe won the first match against Lugano but conceded three goals. Therefore, Fenerbahçe players must play very carefully in today's match. Especially the defense must be kept strong today.
The aggregate of 4-3 is certainly still an important note for Fenerbahçe in Leg 2 which means Lugano can still provide tough resistance. The narrow difference indicates that it is not easy for Mourinho to implement his strategy format. He needs an injection of players who can really understand the coach's wishes. Mourinho and Fenerbahçe still need to adapt. The journey is still very long and the victory against Lugano needs to be maximized so that they can breathe a sigh of relief for the next match.

Just like the first match, in the second match we saw a solid performance from Fenerbahçe's players. Fenerbahçe's overall performance in this match was good. It seems that the players of the team are now confident with the help of Mourinho. And they can play well.

Fenerbahçe players did not try to attack much in this match. A total of 10 shots were made by Fenerbahçe players. On the other hand Lugano players also made 10 shots. The Lugano team took a 1-0 lead just 7 minutes into the match. Even so, Fenerbahçe's players were confident. Fenerbahçe needed a draw in the match to qualify for the next round. But Fenerbahçe won 2-1 with Szymanski's goal in 90+3 minutes.

It is understood that the performance of the team has improved somewhat with the help of Mourinho. I see a change in Fenerbahçe's match strategy. But if Fenerbahçe wants to dominate the Super Lig, they need to strengthen their defense.
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Fenerbahçe will play their second match against Lugano tonight.
Fenerbahçe won the first match 4-3. I think they will win this match as well. I said they would win the first match easily but that didn't happen, I can't say they will win this match easily.
If Fenerbahçe wins the match tonight, their next opponent will be Lille.

Actually without being told Fenerbahçe will come out victorious but is certain they would have a difficult time on that match because considering the level of resistance Lugano had on them the last time is certain they may likely repeat the same thing because they must have worked on there club after losing there last match to try if they can hold Fenerbahçe to a draw but I don't think it will be possible for them because already Fenerbahçe took all there pre season matches very serious as if they are playing a tournament because there last three matches has involved a lot of goals against the clubs, so perhaps we should also expect the match to end either over 3.5 or over 4.5 because from the three matches they played is only one match the both side scored total of 4 goals if not is it was normally over 4.5.

It was another tough match for Fenerbahçe, Lugano scored the first goal early and things got tough for Fenerbahçe but Fenerbahçe somehow won the match.
Fenerbahçe is still a team that hasn't fully settled down, we see that on the field.
I hope we see a more prepared team against Lille, if not I think they have a very high chance of being eliminated.
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Made just few bets with not very high odds for today - Ferencvaros ML and over 2.5 goals in that game and over 2.5 goals in Klaksvik - Malmo as well. Looking at 1st leg results, only Slovan - Celje  and maybe Fenerbahche - Lugano looks interesting. Probably will keep my focus on Olympics instead of watching CL qualifiers.

Fenerbahçe won the first match against Lugano but conceded three goals. Therefore, Fenerbahçe players must play very carefully in today's match. Especially the defense must be kept strong today.
Usually you expect defensive approach from Mourinho team, but after first game I doubt that this one will be low scoring too. But betting for Fenerbahche isn't worth at all with such low odds.
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Fenerbahçe won the first match against Lugano but conceded three goals. Therefore, Fenerbahçe players must play very carefully in today's match. Especially the defense must be kept strong today.
The aggregate of 4-3 is certainly still an important note for Fenerbahçe in Leg 2 which means Lugano can still provide tough resistance. The narrow difference indicates that it is not easy for Mourinho to implement his strategy format. He needs an injection of players who can really understand the coach's wishes. Mourinho and Fenerbahçe still need to adapt. The journey is still very long and the victory against Lugano needs to be maximized so that they can breathe a sigh of relief for the next match.
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Fenerbahçe will play their second match against Lugano tonight.
Fenerbahçe won the first match 4-3. I think they will win this match as well. I said they would win the first match easily but that didn't happen, I can't say they will win this match easily.
If Fenerbahçe wins the match tonight, their next opponent will be Lille.

Actually without being told Fenerbahçe will come out victorious but is certain they would have a difficult time on that match because considering the level of resistance Lugano had on them the last time is certain they may likely repeat the same thing because they must have worked on there club after losing there last match to try if they can hold Fenerbahçe to a draw but I don't think it will be possible for them because already Fenerbahçe took all there pre season matches very serious as if they are playing a tournament because there last three matches has involved a lot of goals against the clubs, so perhaps we should also expect the match to end either over 3.5 or over 4.5 because from the three matches they played is only one match the both side scored total of 4 goals if not is it was normally over 4.5.
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Fenerbahçe got an experienced coach like Mourinho. Mourinho is one of my favorite coaches. Personally, I like Mourinho's personality very much. Moreover, he is also experienced enough as a coach. I would say that Fenerbahçe is lucky to have a coach like Mourinho.

However, even after having a coach like Mourinho, it is not certain whether Fenerbahçe can win this year's Super Lig. Fenerbahçe team is very unlucky. For the last few seasons Fenerbahçe team is considered as the favorite for the Super lig title, but is not able to win the title.

Fenerbahçe won the first match against Lugano but conceded three goals. Therefore, Fenerbahçe players must play very carefully in today's match. Especially the defense must be kept strong today.
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