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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on April 03, 2022, 05:19:56 PM

There is only 1 match that is going to be tense, normally. Chelsea - Real Madrid is difficult to say who is the favourite. I think the other 3 games are pretty clear who will go through. Certainly Villareal and Benfica are too small in this face of the competition. Atletico Madrid could still be a surprise with Griezman and Suarez, but I suspect Liverpool will know how to handle that. I am especially looking forward to the draw for the semi-finals. Then it really starts.

Yes, also given what happened recently at Chelsea I talk about the war and the embargo issue and about its owner who somehow has to give up the team all that is very sad

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 04:40:48 PM

After the results on this week, I saw that Manchester City and Atletico Madrid both had a solid weekend. But when it comes to facing each other, everything changes. Because their opponents this week were Burnley and Alaves respectively in the end. Grin

We can't take these games too seriously because of that. But I'm still feeling sure about one thing which is Manchester City will be winning against Atletico Madrid in Etihad Stadium. And they should win to be advantageous for the second leg.

Playing at home, I believe the city will take the sit as the winner. But if they didn't play carefully, Atletico will make the surprise like they were in past. This game is quite a memory for each coach, at the time Pep was in Barcelona. there are several times to beat each other. but still, Pep far superior strategy than Simeone. H2h, Atletico is superior, in the last 5 matches, Atletico win 4 while Machester city only 1.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 03, 2022, 07:02:52 PM

Take nothing away from Diego Simeone, the dude is a good manager who has enjoyed his own fair share of success, winning the spanish league title twice and also making it to two CL finals even though he sadly lost, i am not saying he is better than Guardiola, of course i do not think any manager is better than Pep, but diego Simeone is right up there amongst the best managers in the world.

Having said that, let us leave the coaches aside, Athletico Madrid also have quality players, maybe not as many as City, but they can definitely compete; i admire Simeone as a manager, but i do not fancy his defensive tactics especially in big games, he must understand that his team can likewise dominate a game, but they are only following his instructions to park the bus and hit on the counter attack. I am pretty sure it will be City doing all the attack in this game, and overall i believe City would be too strong for them, and they will win the game and progress.

Totally agreed. I think he knows what he's doing, getting into so many finals with the team he has and not to mention beating Real and Barcelona to the title last season, with the squad he has, that is not luck. That is tactics, and yes I hate his tactics but sometimes, as a neutral you can really appreciate what he does with the style his team has and the types of players they have.

We don't have to like him but we can admire him.

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Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2022, 06:36:29 PM

I don't think Chelsea are in their best form of performance right now to handle real madrid. Chelsea are having issues with their performance, I believe real madrid will defeat Chelsea, Chelseas defence surprise me . In the epl Brentford defeated Chelsea very sorry, it course anything for Real Madrid to win.

In the Champions League in the past, Real Madrid have always looked good and have been very consistent in playing, it looks like that will also happen this season because considering that last season Real Madrid were also beaten by Chelsea and they also managed to bring the Champions League title last season.
So this season is another opportunity and it is extraordinary for Real Madrid to prove themselves that they also really deserve to be champions in the Champions League.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on April 03, 2022, 06:15:05 PM

Real Madrid - Chelsea matchup is the one that I have been curious about the most recently. Although I see Real Madrid like one step ahead of Chelsea for this, in fact there is no clear favourite team to advance here. Because Chelsea moved Real Madrid out of their way last season, Real Madrid will need to play extra carefully not to fail again. The first game is in Stamford Bridge and I feel like Chelsea will be in control in this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same they did against PSG I think. And we will see if they will be successful.

It's hard to predict this match. Real Madrid has not performed as well in their last two matches in La Liga. They lost 4-0 to Barcelona, and 2-1 to Celta Vigo, but their gameplay was poor. Chelsea, on the other hand, lost their last match 4-1 to a team like Brentford. And so it is very difficult to predict how they will perform face to face now. But considering the home team, I will keep Chelsea ahead.

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Quote from: rby on April 03, 2022, 06:35:06 PM

Come to champions league, Manchester City is more likely to qualify because of the number of good players they have. Apart from the good players they also have a good coach and were at the finals last season. They have chances of progressing to the next level.
While we cannot say all these to Simeone, but we know he is a counter strategist, I believe he has mapped out the method to deliver his club.

Take nothing away from Diego Simeone, the dude is a good manager who has enjoyed his own fair share of success, winning the spanish league title twice and also making it to two CL finals even though he sadly lost, i am not saying he is better than Guardiola, of course i do not think any manager is better than Pep, but diego Simeone is right up there amongst the best managers in the world.

Having said that, let us leave the coaches aside, Athletico Madrid also have quality players, maybe not as many as City, but they can definitely compete; i admire Simeone as a manager, but i do not fancy his defensive tactics especially in big games, he must understand that his team can likewise dominate a game, but they are only following his instructions to park the bus and hit on the counter attack. I am pretty sure it will be City doing all the attack in this game, and overall i believe City would be too strong for them, and they will win the game and progress.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on April 03, 2022, 06:15:05 PM

Real Madrid - Chelsea matchup is the one that I have been curious about the most recently. Although I see Real Madrid like one step ahead of Chelsea for this, in fact there is no clear favourite team to advance here. Because Chelsea moved Real Madrid out of their way last season, Real Madrid will need to play extra carefully not to fail again. The first game is in Stamford Bridge and I feel like Chelsea will be in control in this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same they did against PSG I think. And we will see if they will be successful.

I don't think Chelsea are in their best form of performance right now to handle real madrid. Chelsea are having issues with their performance, I believe real madrid will defeat Chelsea, Chelseas defence surprise me . In the epl Brentford defeated Chelsea very sorry, it course anything for Real Madrid to win.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 04:40:48 PM

After the results on this week, I saw that Manchester City and Atletico Madrid both had a solid weekend. But when it comes to facing each other, everything changes. Because their opponents this week were Burnley and Alaves respectively in the end. Grin

We can't take these games too seriously because of that. But I'm still feeling sure about one thing which is Manchester City will be winning against Atletico Madrid in Etihad Stadium. And they should win to be advantageous for the second leg.

Manchester City had a smooth ride over the weekend against Burnley against my wish for them. I really wanted Manchester City to lose and give an edge to Liverpool in the league but it couldn't work out, but I know such chances still exists. In the other Alaves was not a problem to Atletico Madrid because Atletico Madrid knew she was in a fight between Sevilla and Barcelona.

Come to champions league, Manchester City is more likely to qualify because of the number of good players they have. Apart from the good players they also have a good coach and were at the finals last season. They have chances of progressing to the next level.
While we cannot say all these to Simeone, but we know he is a counter strategist, I believe he has mapped out the method to deliver his club.

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Real Madrid - Chelsea matchup is the one that I have been curious about the most recently. Although I see Real Madrid like one step ahead of Chelsea for this, in fact there is no clear favourite team to advance here. Because Chelsea moved Real Madrid out of their way last season, Real Madrid will need to play extra carefully not to fail again. The first game is in Stamford Bridge and I feel like Chelsea will be in control in this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same they did against PSG I think. And we will see if they will be successful.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 04:40:48 PM

After the results on this week, I saw that Manchester City and Atletico Madrid both had a solid weekend. But when it comes to facing each other, everything changes. Because their opponents this week were Burnley and Alaves respectively in the end. Grin

We can't take these games too seriously because of that. But I'm still feeling sure about one thing which is Manchester City will be winning against Atletico Madrid in Etihad Stadium. And they should win to be advantageous for the second leg.

There is a big difference between must win and really win and this must win sometimes plays a bad joke with teams that face a similar situation Wink

Atletico Madrid should be more liberated psychologically in this situation and this can also play a role. In principle, the scenario of the game is quite clear, when Manchester City will attack and score goals to secure an advantage, and Atletico Madrid will try to play defensively and seek happiness in counterattacks, if possible. Both clubs should be in a great mood before the face-to-face meeting, because Manchester City held the lead in the Premier League, and Atletico Madrid equaled the clubs that occupy second place in La Liga.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 03, 2022, 05:30:45 PM

I'm going to be following Benzema's performance against Chelsea especially as he is going to be the key player of the team as always. He is in a great shape now as he scored two goals in his last game. He was great against PSG in the rematch as well. Chelsea defenders are going to have a big responsibility of defending him solidly. Rudiger might be the most reliable defender for that in the team. He is the best defender for Chelsea now. Not only defensively but also offensively I mean.

Chelsea will be in control of the match only if the Chelsea defenders are able to resist Benzema. The Real Madrid team relies solely on Benzema. When they perform against a strong team, Madrid has to rely on Benzema's goal to win the match. Chelsea, on the other hand, is not dependent on any particular player. Every player on the team tries to play well from their place and as a result, their team's overall performance is good. And so Chelsea will get the expected result only if they can resist Benzema against Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on April 03, 2022, 04:43:40 PM

Benzema has been the key player for Madrid this season but I think Chelsea have more than enough in their midfield to cut off the supply to Benzema and if they can do that effectively then he will be effective. Benzema is a top player and he will need just a mistake to punish Chelsea. I think for Real Madrid to knock out Chelsea, other than Benzema the rest should step up.

Benzema is already a Real Madrid key player since he came to Bernabeu first time. Now, he shows more contributions in the last few seasons. Even, Benzema makes sure that he becomes the most important player in Real Madrid right now. With his status in Real Madrid squad, it is very worrying if Benzema cannot play in this match. So, I really hope that Benzema can play with 100% healthy in the match against Chelsea. Regarding the midfielders, Chelsea Midfielder didn't show good playing in their last match in EPL. So, I am pretty sure that Real Madrid midfielders can do better than Chelsea midfielders. They won't have a problem delivering the supply or passes to Benzema.

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I'm going to be following Benzema's performance against Chelsea especially as he is going to be the key player of the team as always. He is in a great shape now as he scored two goals in his last game. He was great against PSG in the rematch as well. Chelsea defenders are going to have a big responsibility of defending him solidly. Rudiger might be the most reliable defender for that in the team. He is the best defender for Chelsea now. Not only defensively but also offensively I mean.

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There is only 1 match that is going to be tense, normally. Chelsea - Real Madrid is difficult to say who is the favourite. I think the other 3 games are pretty clear who will go through. Certainly Villareal and Benfica are too small in this face of the competition. Atletico Madrid could still be a surprise with Griezman and Suarez, but I suspect Liverpool will know how to handle that. I am especially looking forward to the draw for the semi-finals. Then it really starts.

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Many people must be thinking about whether Chelsea can make it to the title once again. I also am a little curious about it actually but I don't want to believe that they can even eliminate Real Madrid. I don't see the same Chelsea now. I'm aware of the fact that Chelsea will be focusing on the Champions League more than the EPL now. But I don't see the same light in them this time. If they somehow manage to eliminate Real Madrid, then I might start to feel that again.

You are right Chelsea is no longer as strong a team as they were last season. But is the Real Madrid team too strong? We know their squad players are experienced. Their coach is experienced. But they still rely on Benzema to win the match. The Chelsea team may have been a bit weak. But the situation in Real Madrid is not good. Real Madrid will not be able to win against Chelsea without Benzema scoring a goal.

Benzema is literally carrying Real Madrid over his shoulders now. It is a sure thing. But they are not playing bad as a team too. I see a significant difference between their performance now and the one in the last season. Ancelotti has started to make this difference and his influence on the team is really big now. And Real Madrid have a huge history in the Champions League. They eliminated PSG like that thanks to their being an experienced team in this tournament. Chelsea are another experienced team maybe but this time might be different.

Benzema has been the key player for Madrid this season but I think Chelsea have more than enough in their midfield to cut off the supply to Benzema and if they can do that effectively then he will be effective. Benzema is a top player and he will need just a mistake to punish Chelsea. I think for Real Madrid to knock out Chelsea, other than Benzema the rest should step up. Chelsea did come off better than them last season and It will bad for Real Madrid if they come with revengeful and malicious dreams because it might backfire against them.

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After the results on this week, I saw that Manchester City and Atletico Madrid both had a solid weekend. But when it comes to facing each other, everything changes. Because their opponents this week were Burnley and Alaves respectively in the end. Grin

We can't take these games too seriously because of that. But I'm still feeling sure about one thing which is Manchester City will be winning against Atletico Madrid in Etihad Stadium. And they should win to be advantageous for the second leg.

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I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

If we compare Man City with Atletico, Man City should not be eliminated by Atletico. Moreover, Atletico's performance has decreased compared
to the previous season which won the La Liga trophy. This season Atletico began to show good form towards the end of the season, while the start of
this season Atletico played very poorly. While Man City has played very consistently from the start of the season, even Man City is still in first position
in the Premier League right now. Even so far, Man City's performance is also very good in the Champions League competition, and don't forget
Man City, runners-up in the Champions League in 2021.

So it's no wonder Man City is one of the candidates to win the Champions League trophy this year. It will take a miracle for Atletico if they are
to beat Man City and qualify for the next round in the Champions League. I agree with you, I see Atletico is not a team that can knock Man City
out of the Champions League. But I admit that Atletico are not a team that Man City can easily beat, but because Man City did have a better
performance and also better quality players, Man City should have beaten and eliminated Atletico in the Champions League quarter-finals.

It is no secret that Manchester City are one of the strongest teams in the Champions League this season but again, they are facing an Atletico Madrid that have quality and the strength to face and probably frustrate them. The game is going to be quite wild. It is more about the contrasting playing styles of both teams.
It's quite interesting that this Manchester City vs Atletico madrid have been all about Atletico defensive style and how frustrating they can be to their opponents and City on the other hand, is believed to be better going forward but will have difficulty breaking down Atletico but the truth is going by the stats this season, Manchester City have an excellent defense too. City have only allowed only two goals in the last seven matches but again, Atletico will be their biggest test so far this season.

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What is going on here? Grin

2,13 - 3,45 - 3,60

If I'm not mistaken, then a couple of days ago the chances were more equal. What is the reason for Chelsea's chances to rise and Real to fall, when Chelsea failed yesterday's game and Real won? Looks like I missed some news.

I think Chelsea's defeat was also because I wanted to focus on the game against Madrid. because in the EPL Chelsea may have difficulty chasing City and Liverpool. their focus is on the Champions League trophy.
but there is news regarding the formidable defender of Madrid, Eder Militao who suffered an injury and was unable to appear in the match against Chelsea. maybe this is one of the Odds changes that the bookie offers before the match.

Yes, this is a good version. In principle, if Chelsea goes all-in and concentrates on the match in the Champions League, and Real Madrid loses a defender, then such quotes can be justified. But in my opinion now Chelsea is overrated and Real Madrid is underestimated - 3.60. Is Real Madrid incapable of winning one of three such matches? After all, if so, then the bookmakers made a very serious mistake in the odds.

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Only three days left to have a start in the quarter final games. And yeah, I also think that we might see a surprise in the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. Maybe it wouldn't be a win but it is likely to see a draw at the end. When we think that Salzburg were nearly defeating Bayern Munich home, we can expect Villarreal to do better too. Villarreal are a way more solid team than Salzburg in the end. On the other hand, Bayern Munich experienced this before and they would prepare themselves better I assume.

I dont think there will be a surprise at all i think Bayern Munich will win both matches against Villereal. I think they learned their lesson against Salzburg to not go easy against a weaker team so they might even finish everything in their away game against Villereal

Bayern Munich definitely shouldn't go easy on Villarreal in this away game for them. Villarreal are not a team that are eager to forgive big mistakes. And I watched Bayern Munich and Villarreal's games both in their domestic leagues this week. And I can say that Bayern Munich impressed me a lot but Villarreal made me feel the opposite. Their performance was so disappointing that I started wondering whether they can have some big problems in the CL game also. But maybe they were thinking so much about the CL game that they couldn't focus fully on the Levante game.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 03, 2022, 01:31:34 PM

What is going on here? Grin

2,13 - 3,45 - 3,60

If I'm not mistaken, then a couple of days ago the chances were more equal. What is the reason for Chelsea's chances to rise and Real to fall, when Chelsea failed yesterday's game and Real won? Looks like I missed some news.

I think Chelsea's defeat was also because I wanted to focus on the game against Madrid. because in the EPL Chelsea may have difficulty chasing City and Liverpool. their focus is on the Champions League trophy.
but there is news regarding the formidable defender of Madrid, Eder Militao who suffered an injury and was unable to appear in the match against Chelsea. maybe this is one of the Odds changes that the bookie offers before the match.

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