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Quote from: perla on April 03, 2022, 01:37:17 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 03, 2022, 01:31:34 PM

What is going on here? Grin

2,13 - 3,45 - 3,60

If I'm not mistaken, then a couple of days ago the chances were more equal. What is the reason for Chelsea's chances to rise and Real to fall, when Chelsea failed yesterday's game and Real won? Looks like I missed some news.

I haven't watched it, but it seems to be a match where the bookmakers give both teams a 50% chance to advance to the next round. Real Madrid is very important from Benzema, but Chelsea can't miss a few players either. Chelsea had been in charge in the last 2 encounters, but that Madrid team was not in shape and even lost at home to Shakta Donetsk if I am not mistaken. Both teams are not favorites to win the CL, but these are teams that can beat anyone on a good day, as Chelsea showed last season.

I think it has an influence on the results of the two teams in their last match, where this week Chelsea lost in the domestic league, and it will definitely affect the mentality of Chelsea players because they lost against a team at the bottom of the standings.
on the other hand Real Madrid just got their domestic league win this week, winning 2-1 against Celta Vigo but both goals from Real Madrid came from penalties which means Real Madrid's game is still not good.
Real Madrid and also Chelsea are teams that are highly regarded on the UCL stage, Chelsea was the champion of the UCL last season while Real Madrid is the king of the UCL who won the most trophies in history.
The match between the two teams will be very even and it is very difficult to predict now who will qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 03, 2022, 01:31:34 PM

What is going on here? Grin

2,13 - 3,45 - 3,60

If I'm not mistaken, then a couple of days ago the chances were more equal. What is the reason for Chelsea's chances to rise and Real to fall, when Chelsea failed yesterday's game and Real won? Looks like I missed some news.

I haven't watched it, but it seems to be a match where the bookmakers give both teams a 50% chance to advance to the next round. Real Madrid is very important from Benzema, but Chelsea can't miss a few players either. Chelsea had been in charge in the last 2 encounters, but that Madrid team was not in shape and even lost at home to Shakta Donetsk if I am not mistaken. Both teams are not favorites to win the CL, but these are teams that can beat anyone on a good day, as Chelsea showed last season.

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What is going on here? Grin

2,13 - 3,45 - 3,60

If I'm not mistaken, then a couple of days ago the chances were more equal. What is the reason for Chelsea's chances to rise and Real to fall, when Chelsea failed yesterday's game and Real won? Looks like I missed some news.

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Quote from: hahay on April 03, 2022, 11:39:23 AM

Quote from: blackened515 on April 03, 2022, 07:09:55 AM

In two days time. Atletico Madrid will be flying to Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City in the Champion League Quarter finals leg 1. Both teams won their League matches and are currently in solid form. Although, Atletico were able to kick Manchester United out of the CL, but they have to understand that City are more tougher, which they can't easily beat. And Atletico should probably be well prepared. I won't want to miss this match, because is going to be an interesting game.

Yes, but it will be more impressive if Atletico can beat and get rid of Manchester City as well after Atletico managed to get rid of Manchester United. Although both Manchester have great squads but their quality is different, Manchester City is managed by a great coach too and it can be a difficult opponent for Atletico. What's more, Pep himself is already very proficient against Spanish teams, so the match against Atletico is no longer something new for Pep.

Of course it will be very difficult for Atletico against Man City because in terms of the quality of Man City is much greater than Manchester United, I don't think that Atletico can beat Man City because in terms of the quality of the players Man City has players whose quality is above Atletico and also Man City. City are very favored in the match against Atletico. I think so too, I predict that Man City will be able to win the game against Atletico and advance to the next round.

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Quote from: blackened515 on April 03, 2022, 07:09:55 AM

In two days time. Atletico Madrid will be flying to Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City in the Champion League Quarter finals leg 1. Both teams won their League matches and are currently in solid form. Although, Atletico were able to kick Manchester United out of the CL, but they have to understand that City are more tougher, which they can't easily beat. And Atletico should probably be well prepared. I won't want to miss this match, because is going to be an interesting game.

Yes, but it will be more impressive if Atletico can beat and get rid of Manchester City as well after Atletico managed to get rid of Manchester United. Although both Manchester have great squads but their quality is different, Manchester City is managed by a great coach too and it can be a difficult opponent for Atletico. What's more, Pep himself is already very proficient against Spanish teams, so the match against Atletico is no longer something new for Pep.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on April 02, 2022, 06:16:15 PM

Benzema is literally carrying Real Madrid over his shoulders now. It is a sure thing. But they are not playing bad as a team too. I see a significant difference between their performance now and the one in the last season. Ancelotti has started to make this difference and his influence on the team is really big now. And Real Madrid have a huge history in the Champions League. They eliminated PSG like that thanks to their being an experienced team in this tournament. Chelsea are another experienced team maybe but this time might be different.

That's right, luckily Benzema is still a little better even though he is constantly being escorted and it's definitely tiring and indeed draining him a lot of energy. several times he had to get injured there but if he didn't play it would be very difficult too because there was no really reliable spearhead there.
Madrid must think of a way to anticipate this because if they don't and continue to use Benzema it will not be good for the future.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 01, 2022, 09:44:03 AM

Quote from: leea-1334 on April 01, 2022, 01:12:13 AM

The finances alone does not make a club have low morale because if they did,,, then they are a weak club anyway and do not deserve to play

One thing is the financial problems of the club (which the players may not even feel because their financial interaction with the club is in accordance with the contract), and another thing is the change of ownership, which can lead to a radical change in the policy of the club. In the second case, the future becomes very uncertain and this affects the players because they think about it. Professionals, of course, know how to abstract and do their job no matter what, but still, at least a little bit, it affects them.

I guess Chelsea will somehow blame their most recent bad result on this financial issues (or maybe less about finances but ownership right now). I saw some videos of empty stands outside the stadium where they cannot even buy fan merchandise now.

Professionals or not, I guess the team was affected,,, or was this just about all the style that they could not play with on Brentford? Anyway, time to find out soon I guess

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In two days time. Atletico Madrid will be flying to Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City in the Champion League Quarter finals leg 1. Both teams won their League matches and are currently in solid form. Although, Atletico were able to kick Manchester United out of the CL, but they have to understand that City are more tougher, which they can't easily beat. And Atletico should probably be well prepared. I won't want to miss this match, because is going to be an interesting game.

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Quote from: onetwostep on April 03, 2022, 05:30:52 AM

I watched the game yesterday, Atletico looked stronger than a few games ago. But the team they played with yesterday was the worst team in the league, and we should not forget that.
In fact, Atletico's league performance is quite good, but I don't know how successful they can be in this match. City's performance are better Cheesy

both teams have raised their confidence. Atletico won against Alaves and City won against Burnley. they are in good form and we will see the best of them. I hope there are no players' performances that decrease before the game starts.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 03, 2022, 03:11:45 AM

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Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

I agree with you, I don't think Atlético Madrid will win any more games this year. Manchester City are a much stronger team than their opponent this year and I don't think Atletico will have a chance.
City, on the other hand, is in great form and is a team that will finish the most difficult league in the world, such as the Premier League, as champions. There is a huge difference in strength between the two teams Cheesy

Atletico Madrid's chances of winning are relatively low, but that doesn't mean they can't. Manchester City is definitely strong. But Atletico Madrid is not weak. Moreover, Suarez seems to be back in form. Atletico will fight hard against Manchester City when Suarez returns to form. Atletico Madrid won a beautiful 4-1 win over Alaves yesterday. If Griezmann and Suarez can play well, they can expect a win against Manchester City.

I watched the game yesterday, Atletico looked stronger than a few games ago. But the team they played with yesterday was the worst team in the league, and we should not forget that.
In fact, Atletico's league performance is quite good, but I don't know how successful they can be in this match. City's performance are better Cheesy

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Quote from: Iranus on April 03, 2022, 03:11:45 AM

Quote from: onetwostep on April 03, 2022, 03:04:54 AM

Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

I agree with you, I don't think Atlético Madrid will win any more games this year. Manchester City are a much stronger team than their opponent this year and I don't think Atletico will have a chance.
City, on the other hand, is in great form and is a team that will finish the most difficult league in the world, such as the Premier League, as champions. There is a huge difference in strength between the two teams Cheesy

Atletico Madrid's chances of winning are relatively low, but that doesn't mean they can't. Manchester City is definitely strong. But Atletico Madrid is not weak. Moreover, Suarez seems to be back in form. Atletico will fight hard against Manchester City when Suarez returns to form. Atletico Madrid won a beautiful 4-1 win over Alaves yesterday. If Griezmann and Suarez can play well, they can expect a win against Manchester City.

Atletico Madrid obviously has the players to pull out a win in this match but it will be really hard for them to do so. Considering the form that Manchester City is in right now I don't think Atletico Madrid will be able to win against them. Both teams do have the added pressure of performing well in their own respective League too but I think that is going to have little effect on how they will be able to play in this Champions League match. Manchester City is in great form and I don't think they will be stopped by Atletico Madrid.

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Real Madrid will perform well this time and are on their way to claiming the next position in this tournament, just like Liverpool real Madrid is going to top their group top position. But with clubs like Manchester City and Chelsea that speed may be limited.

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Quote from: onetwostep on April 03, 2022, 03:04:54 AM

Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

I agree with you, I don't think Atlético Madrid will win any more games this year. Manchester City are a much stronger team than their opponent this year and I don't think Atletico will have a chance.
City, on the other hand, is in great form and is a team that will finish the most difficult league in the world, such as the Premier League, as champions. There is a huge difference in strength between the two teams Cheesy

Atletico Madrid's chances of winning are relatively low, but that doesn't mean they can't. Manchester City is definitely strong. But Atletico Madrid is not weak. Moreover, Suarez seems to be back in form. Atletico will fight hard against Manchester City when Suarez returns to form. Atletico Madrid won a beautiful 4-1 win over Alaves yesterday. If Griezmann and Suarez can play well, they can expect a win against Manchester City.

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Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

I agree with you, I don't think Atlético Madrid will win any more games this year. Manchester City are a much stronger team than their opponent this year and I don't think Atletico will have a chance.
City, on the other hand, is in great form and is a team that will finish the most difficult league in the world, such as the Premier League, as champions. There is a huge difference in strength between the two teams Cheesy

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Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

The Manchester City vs Atletico Madrid match will be very exciting, Manchester City are very happy to dominate the match with Pep Guardiola tiki-taka style. Meanwhile, Atletico Madrid prefers to wait and do a quick counter-attack.
Atletico will be a tough opponent for Man City, because Man City will find it difficult to develop the game if the opposing a team applies a defensive style.
If they do not want their fate to be like Manchester United, Manchester City players must play smart, because Atletico have the best layered defense in Europe. Man City must take advantage of the slightest opportunity to score.

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You made a lot of sense, but the bolded part of the sentence is false; RLC is a liability to the club; he's the only Academy player who hasn't improved; whenever he starts in midfield, the team struggles to create chances; he has nothing special; he doesn't assist, doesn't score, has no creativity; the only thing he does well is hold on to the ball. He will not be featured in the champions league game.

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Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.

Real Madrid is clearly star-studded but Chelsea midfield is a little more dynamic, on a good day one Kante can upset the whole Real Madrid midfield. Chelsea have a player in the person of Jorginho who's a controller in Midfield something close to the likes of Xavi during his playing days. While the likes of RLC, Kante and Kovacic play as box to box midfielders making Chelsea's midfield a bit robust than Real Madrid’s.

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Quote from: lalabotax on April 02, 2022, 06:31:33 PM

Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

If we compare Man City with Atletico, Man City should not be eliminated by Atletico. Moreover, Atletico's performance has decreased compared
to the previous season which won the La Liga trophy. This season Atletico began to show good form towards the end of the season, while the start of
this season Atletico played very poorly. While Man City has played very consistently from the start of the season, even Man City is still in first position
in the Premier League right now. Even so far, Man City's performance is also very good in the Champions League competition, and don't forget
Man City, runners-up in the Champions League in 2021.

So it's no wonder Man City is one of the candidates to win the Champions League trophy this year. It will take a miracle for Atletico if they are
to beat Man City and qualify for the next round in the Champions League. I agree with you, I see Atletico is not a team that can knock Man City
out of the Champions League. But I admit that Atletico are not a team that Man City can easily beat, but because Man City did have a better
performance and also better quality players, Man City should have beaten and eliminated Atletico in the Champions League quarter-finals.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 01, 2022, 05:34:01 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 01, 2022, 01:01:20 PM

Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.

Do you think Chelsea midfielders are stronger than Real Madrid midfielders this season? Although the last season, Real Madrid midfielders are defeated by Chelsea midfielders, it doesn't mean Chelsea midfielders' performance is better than Real Madrid midfielders this season. I still believe that Real Madrid midfielders have learned many things from their lose in the last season. So, it probably won't happen again this season. Young or old players sometimes don't give a significant influence in the match.

Real Madrid is clearly star-studded but Chelsea midfield is a little more dynamic, on a good day one Kante can upset the whole Real Madrid midfield. Chelsea have a player in the person of Jorginho who's a controller in Midfield something close to the likes of Xavi during his playing days. While the likes of RLC, Kante and Kovacic play as box to box midfielders making Chelsea's midfield a bit robust than Real Madrid’s.

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Quote from: Sirait on April 02, 2022, 04:26:33 PM

I actually think that the one who has the potential to become champions in the UCL this season is Liverpool. man city is indeed a very strong team and champion candidates but they will definitely be eliminated (perhaps when facing ATM).

Man City will be defeated by Atletico Madrid? Are you joking? To be honest, I don't see a chance for Atletico Madrid to beat Man City. I don't underestimate this team, but their performance this season seems not really promising to defeat a strong EPL team like Man City. Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL, they shouldn't be eliminated in this stage. Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, or Real Madrid can defeat Man City, but I don't see it possible for Atletico Madrid. Sorry for Atletico Madrid fans..

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Quote from: borovichok on April 02, 2022, 06:00:44 PM

Liverpool have a fantastic results today against Watford to keep the pressure on Manchester City in the league but I think they will find it hard to kick out Atletico Madrid in this tournament,I think ATM have pick form at the right time, there game today shows that the still got fire power in Joan Felix and Luis Suarez both are so good and can score for fun right now,same thing with Chelsea and Real Madrid, with Chelsea results today they will be very weak in confidence in the showdown in the champions League next week.madrid will be thinking that Chelsea has lots of weakness to take advantage of.

Liverpool and Man City's performances were very good when they beat their respective opponents in the Premier League, they managed to beat their
opponent quite convincingly. Liverpool and Man City's victories are very important to increase their confidence to be better prepared to play
in the Champions League. For Liverpool it looks like they can beat Benfica easily, the problem is that Man City will not easily beat Atletico.
We know that Atletico's performance has been consistent in La Liga and also that Atletico will play defensively against Man City who are better
quality than them. Man City must be careful with the counter-attack of Atletico's players who have a dangerous front line, but as long as Man City
can show their best game, Man City should be able to beat Atletico.

Regarding Chelsea, I was surprised that they were beaten by Brentford with a big enough score. whereas Chelsea play at home and are strengthened
by the majority of their main players. Chelsea's defeat of course benefited Real Madrid, which had just beat Celta. Because like you said Chelsea will
definitely lose their confidence a bit with the defeat to Brentford. Meanwhile, Real Madrid are much more prepared to face Chelsea, even though
Real Madrid play away in the first leg.

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