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Quote from: leea-1334 on March 30, 2022, 07:07:27 AM

Quote from: hahay on March 29, 2022, 11:46:27 PM

After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!

Real Madrid isn’t going to beat Chelsea, it is true that right now Chelsea FC has its off field problems but they are still far a better unit than this Madrid team. I actually think with Ancelotti, Madrid will not stand a chance against chelsea; Tuchel seems to be more dynamic in his approach compare to him and that is an advantage to Chelsea. I would gladly bet on anything for Chelsea's win.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on March 30, 2022, 07:07:27 AM

Quote from: hahay on March 29, 2022, 11:46:27 PM

After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!

Many hope the same as you. If the final is filled with an English team, it could reduce the excitement of the final match. although those who qualify for the final are of course a strong team and indeed they have fought hard. I think the final will have representatives from England and representatives from Germany.

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Quote from: hahay on March 29, 2022, 11:46:27 PM

After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 30, 2022, 12:41:30 AM

Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.

Even though Real Madrid performed well in the Champions League, the opponent they faced in the quarter-finals was one of the English giants Chelsea, where we know that last year Chelsea succeeded in defeating Real Madrid in the same event in the semifinals, this is something that the foster children have to watch out for. Carlo Ancelotti, even though their opponents are currently experiencing an extraordinary financial crisis, but Chelsea are trying to continue to focus on European competitions.this is something Real Madrid should be wary of.

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Quote from: tyz on March 30, 2022, 04:08:35 AM

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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.

Well, the same argumentation existed here even before the PSG game. The tenor was that PSG is the clear favorite and Real is too old to have a chance. As we know, it came differently. I think that the outcome of the game is completely open and you can not talk about a favorite here. Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, which makes a prediction difficult.

Actually, the predictions we have heard so far also make sense, even during the Paris Saint-Germain match, I am not wrong about all the predictions. But yes, it all depends on the gameplay that takes place on the field. It can turn 180 degrees. Don't forget the luck factor too, it's not uncommon for the team that played better to lose because they weren't so lucky in their match.

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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.

Well, the same argumentation existed here even before the PSG game. The tenor was that PSG is the clear favorite and Real is too old to have a chance. As we know, it came differently. I think that the outcome of the game is completely open and you can not talk about a favorite here. Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, which makes a prediction difficult.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on March 29, 2022, 10:55:15 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 29, 2022, 05:56:29 PM

What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage, but on 16 round is getting easy team for defeating as Lille not competitive on champion league after bad performance on Ligue 1 or domestic league. I think have good chance and looks Real Madrid as potential team will trough to semifinal and become moment to see Real Madrid back to play on final champion league in this season.

We don't need to doubt the mentality, because they a strong history in the champions League and gave won it more than any other team in Europe, there match against Paris Saint Germain showed role club history play in uefa champions League, I think there survival in the champions League semi final will be the availability/fitness of key players like Karim benzema,modric and casemiro because these players experience are vital when the going get tough.

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Quote from: hahay on March 29, 2022, 11:46:27 PM

After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Sometimes it is difficult to repeat a nice history, Chelsea had a nice history last season at UCL but maybe like last year Real Madrid were eliminated because Chelsea precisely this season instead Madrid eliminated Chelsea, although this is not an easy match to predict and in this first leg match Chelsea are more favourite because they play at home, Chelsea need to win with a big score because if only with a score of 1-0 or 2-0 Madrid is very likely to chase it in the second leg.

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 30, 2022, 12:41:30 AM

Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.

Indeed this match will be a slightly unpredictable match. Real Madrid and also Chelsea are strong teams competing in the Champions League right now. But I can say a little bit that the internal problems that Chelsea are currently facing may have a little effect on the team. Although I again hope that what I think is wrong and not actually happened.
In the end I was with Real Madrid to win the game.

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Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on March 29, 2022, 11:28:01 PM

Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.

After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on March 29, 2022, 11:28:01 PM

Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.

This is a big team that both have quality players and a high mentality, Real Madrid has won the most UCL titles while Chelsea were UCL champions last season. if you look at the game of the two teams, it is very difficult to predict who will win, this is a match that will be difficult for both teams. out of several UCL games I think Real Madrid's match against Chelsea is the most interesting.
I personally predict Real Madrid will be able to win this match after seeing the excellent game they showed against PSG in Leg2.

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Quote from: uswa56 on March 29, 2022, 11:01:38 PM

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on March 29, 2022, 10:55:15 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 29, 2022, 05:56:29 PM

What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage, but on 16 round is getting easy team for defeating as Lille not competitive on champion league after bad performance on Ligue 1 or domestic league. I think have good chance and looks Real Madrid as potential team will trough to semifinal and become moment to see Real Madrid back to play on final champion league in this season.

Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

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They are usually playing a hardcore defensive system where the whole defense and midfield try to do whatever it takes to not let the other team have easy positions. This could result with the players resulting to hard fouls just to make sure that the other team knows they can't have an easy chance.

This is not only good in a tactic way, but it is good in psychological way where they would be able to put the other team in a fear where the other team would feel like they can't just go out and playmake, they have to be quick to get rid of the ball if they do not want to get kicked. This could result with a good result for ATM, or it could result with a red card and switch the balance of the game.

Committing a hard violation will result in ATM players getting a red card from the referee, this is what ATM players must avoid so as not to harm them because of a lack of player balance. The ATM style of play will make the opposing team dare not keep the ball at their feet for too long, this condition is what Diego Siemone wants to damage the psychology and plans of the opposing team.
City who still want to win the UCL must be able to get past the obstacles from ATMs, Pep Guardiola is well aware that he will have difficulty with ATMs, but Man City must find a way to score goals against ATM.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 29, 2022, 05:56:29 PM

What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage, but on 16 round is getting easy team for defeating as Lille not competitive on champion league after bad performance on Ligue 1 or domestic league. I think have good chance and looks Real Madrid as potential team will trough to semifinal and become moment to see Real Madrid back to play on final champion league in this season.

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Why you are not sure that Man City probably defeats Atletico Madrid?
Man City is surely a stronger team, they are in 1st place in EPL and they have more quality players. While Atletico is only in 4th place in La Liga and their performance isn't at its best during this season. Many Atletico Madrid players performed rather badly this season, a bit far from our expectations. Based on the stats of these teams, Man City is more favored.

All the above you said are very much correct, City are favorites to beat Athletico Madrid, i mean, there are only a few teams (one or two maybe) currently in the world that City wouldn't be favorites against; but this is the CL and Athletico Madrid are a tough opponent to contend with, i personally do not admire their pattern of play (park the bus, and counter), but who knows, they could use it to frustrate City and pick up a surprise victory, that doesn't mean i am not expecting City to win, of course i am, my prediction is that City wins this game home and away, but my point is this: never rule out the possibility of an upset.

City will win Athletico,no doubt over that,they are better than ATM from every angle of look.They are more solid defensively and offensively,more good in the middle of the park,more good in touches,so there is no way Athletico will be able to win them.But they do say in football anything can happen,maybe they can just come to surprise Mancity like that by defending well and having counter attacks.

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Quote from: Roidz on March 29, 2022, 10:20:07 AM

Both teams seem to have a balanced power and it is difficult to predict who will win in that match, I think whoever the team that managed to score the first goal in the match will probably come out victorious, because if us look at the defense of both teams and their performance so far in the league it looks like the match will end with a thin or draw score, the first leg match will likely be a difficult match for both teams and I really hope both teams can field their best squad in the match, so as to make the match more interesting for us to watch.

If I personally see Real Madrid as a better seed than Chelsea, why is that? because in their own league Chelsea are left in 3rd place in the temporary standings, while Real Madrid is the temporary leader of the standings in the Santander League. So this reflects that Real Madrid will look superior in the Champions League against Chelsea, although it is always not easy to win the game.

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Manchester City - Atletico Madrid draw can be really fun for us to watch. But maybe we might see few goals in the second leg that is going to be in Wanda Metropolitano. But my expectation from the first leg is going to be quite high. Because all of us know how great Manchester City are playing in their home matches. They literally own those matches and make us watch a match with a high tempo most of the time. And I hope to see at least three goals in that match too. And obviously, Manchester City would advance to next round.

I think Manchester city will use this second leg to recover all the goals they have missed from Atletico Madrid match. It will not be easy for Atletico Madrid to win this battle with Manchester city because they have won so many matches, and they are fully ready to win the match with 4-0 to give their fans more confidence in this tournament. According to both teams record for this tournament, show that Manchester city has preformed well than Atletico Madrid in this season which will not be possible for Atletico Madrid to defeat Manchester city.

Basically these two teams have never met in all the existing tournaments, so whatever the result can still happen and not entirely Manchester City will win easily. At least if Atletico can qualify then this will be good history because if that happens, then Atletico managed to get rid of Manchester United and Manchester City in succession in the last 16 and quarter-finals in the UCL this season. Right now the record on paper still doesn't guarantee a definite result, if Manchester City has a winning mentality then Atletico also has it.

thou the both teams haven't met in all existing tournament, but I think Manchester city is the favorite team to win the game. Their winning mentality is incomparable, they play without losing focus and they also take hold of their chances. I think with their recent performance they are a good contenders for the title and they will be hardly stopped. Playing against Manchester city won't be a easy game for athletico Madrid they needs to come up with a unique style of play, tighten their defense and lastly stay focused.

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Quote from: Magicalking on March 28, 2022, 04:47:17 AM

Chelsea versus Real Madrid fixture is definitely a 50-50 chance but I am going to lean towards the side of Chelsea mainly because they are seems to have inculcate the winning mentality in the team even at the face of adversity, they have been playing well and winning games as if the club is not under pressure from the government and football organizations. I doubt if Real Madrid team is as strong mentally as Chelsea.

What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

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