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Quote from: AndySt on January 09, 2022, 06:42:47 PM

Quote from: BALIK on January 09, 2022, 04:06:04 AM

City this season looks like a complete team who are good in every aspect, defense, midfield, and attack.
I think if they are able to buy a pure striker in this transfer window, that would be really good for them but other than that, they seem quite strong. The Semi-final draw might play an important role if they qualify. I think this season's CL is gonna be quite on even ground. As all of City, PSG, Real, Bayern look like very good teams.

Manchester City looks good this season and has a good chance of winning the Champions League, but only for a good impression they do not give the title of the winner of the Champions League Wink

Another question is that their advantage does not look overwhelming and such teams as Bayern, Paris Saint Germain, Real Madrid, Liverpool at least look no worse and are quite capable of competing in the title of the winner. Moreover, the result of the confrontation can be decided based on the results of just one match. Personally, I think Harry Kane, Erling Haaland and Killian Mbappe will join the club, but still not in this transfer window Grin

The thing about this year's CL is that almost 4 or 5 teams are of the same strength. In previous years we used to see that RMA or Barca being the clean favourites to win the title.

So if Pep can use his tactics well enough each match and execute them well enough, I think City have a great chance to win. We all know that Pep is a good tactician and this is the year for him to flourish with City. City's team-game has also been very strong. As teams like RMA and Bayern are somewhat dependent on Benzema or Lewandowski, but City relies on the whole team which could give them an advantage.

Quote from: logfiles on January 09, 2022, 06:18:57 PM

They have always looked like a complete team in the tournament from the time Guardiola took over, things have not be working for them. Have they?
I think there is more into winning the Champion's League than being a complete team, especially for a team that has never won any.

I still stubbornly think PSG and Manchester City will leave empty-handed in the UCL this season.

I think this season might be the season where one of PSG or City will win the cup. Not because they got better players this season, but because big giant teams like Barca or RMA got hugely nerfed this season as players like Messi, Griezmann, Sergio Ramos, Varane left their respective teams and they will suffer because of this.

On the other hand, City this season looks solid - teamwise and playstyle-wise. Their chemistry looks spot on and if Guardiola can lead them match by match, I think they have a greater chance.

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Quote from: diyetisman on January 09, 2022, 03:23:43 PM

I think that the Villarreal - Juventus matchup can also be interesting. Actually, Juventus are closer to advancing to the quarter final round if we look at it from a logical aspect. But Villarreal are really an unpredictable team. Juventus should be careful against them although they are even better in the Champions League than the Serie A. If they get an advantageous score in the first leg, they can finish it hopefully.

The match is played in two legs, if they can win in the first leg it is a good step for the next match. But in this Champions League full of surprises, a team can win in the first leg, but must lose in the second leg. The reason is that not a few teams that win, even with a lot of scores, have to go home disappointed.

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Quote from: BALIK on January 09, 2022, 04:06:04 AM

City this season looks like a complete team who are good in every aspect, defense, midfield, and attack.
I think if they are able to buy a pure striker in this transfer window, that would be really good for them but other than that, they seem quite strong. The Semi-final draw might play an important role if they qualify. I think this season's CL is gonna be quite on even ground. As all of City, PSG, Real, Bayern look like very good teams.

Manchester City looks good this season and has a good chance of winning the Champions League, but only for a good impression they do not give the title of the winner of the Champions League Wink

Another question is that their advantage does not look overwhelming and such teams as Bayern, Paris Saint Germain, Real Madrid, Liverpool at least look no worse and are quite capable of competing in the title of the winner. Moreover, the result of the confrontation can be decided based on the results of just one match. Personally, I think Harry Kane, Erling Haaland and Killian Mbappe will join the club, but still not in this transfer window Grin

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Quote from: BALIK on January 09, 2022, 04:06:04 AM

City this season looks like a complete team who are good in every aspect, defense, midfield, and attack.
I think if they are able to buy a pure striker in this transfer window, that would be really good for them but other than that, they seem quite strong. The Semi-final draw might play an important role if they qualify. I think this season's CL is gonna be quite on even ground. As all of City, PSG, Real, Bayern look like very good teams.

They have always looked like a complete team in the tournament from the time Guardiola took over, things have not be working for them. Have they?
I think there is more into winning the Champion's League than being a complete team, especially for a team that has never won any.

I still stubbornly think PSG and Manchester City will leave empty-handed in the UCL this season.

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Nevertheless, Am quite sure that many goals will be scored.

Without a doubt, we should expect more goals in these games. Since UEFA ended the away goals rule as a tiebreaker in the qualifiers.
Now, if the teams add the same number of goals in both legs of a tie, this will be decided through extra time and, if neither of them scores goals, there will be a penalty shoot-out.

In other words, teams should no longer play in such a defensive way in the first leg. You will see how teams will react to these new rules.

I agree, this changes things fundamentally and now all teams will be on the ball to score more and more, not as before - one attacks and the other defends so as not to concede, sounds strange considering we are talking about football, but I hope you understand) Now a draw is irrelevant. However, I would like to point out that there are likely to be many more extra halves

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Quote from: terrorJR on January 09, 2022, 03:00:05 PM

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If they do frequent testing there shouldn't be an infection bomb hitting anytime just one day before game day. I agree never say never, but there is some degree of control you can have over your club's situation. As for the fans, well, difficult to tell. It is a loss from many perspectives, but it might be a necessary evil to protect people as well. It is not only about the people who are in the stadium themselves, it is also about the traveling to the games and home again, and also about all the contacts people have. There is no 100% right or wrong, but I do understand that everyone who is involved in the decision making process is fighting a big dilemma.

The point is because there must be self-control for both the teams and supporters, at least they must comply with the existing rules and set out during this pandemic.
as you said nothing is 100% right and wrong in this case because all have a share that can be said to be equal.
and again, we can't know where, who and how this process happened because it can't be seen with the naked eye

For as long as the rules are equal for everyone, that's ok. The problem in the international competitions is that rules do differ. Some countries are stricter than others and in sports that is of course not fair, what can you? We will never have a globally harmonized rule set for anything. Maybe Olympia could be an exception, but even that would be a problem now as athletes from different countries would have to comply with different rules I guess. Not in the country where Olympia takes place, but in the country where they come from.

I hope things will calm down and conditions will be the same. In the end though that doesn't mean it is 100% fair as one team might indeed lack seven players while the opponent gets lucky and only misses one or two. Also, it really depends who is going to be missing. Bayern without Lewandowski and Neuer is a different team on the pitch. We'll see how Madrid - PSG will go in February now that they are suffering from quite a number of cases. Given the fact that they can infect themselves again probably makes the PSG management being scared.

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I think that the Villarreal - Juventus matchup can also be interesting. Actually, Juventus are closer to advancing to the quarter final round if we look at it from a logical aspect. But Villarreal are really an unpredictable team. Juventus should be careful against them although they are even better in the Champions League than the Serie A. If they get an advantageous score in the first leg, they can finish it hopefully.

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Quote from: mv1986 on January 09, 2022, 02:20:33 PM

If they do frequent testing there shouldn't be an infection bomb hitting anytime just one day before game day. I agree never say never, but there is some degree of control you can have over your club's situation. As for the fans, well, difficult to tell. It is a loss from many perspectives, but it might be a necessary evil to protect people as well. It is not only about the people who are in the stadium themselves, it is also about the traveling to the games and home again, and also about all the contacts people have. There is no 100% right or wrong, but I do understand that everyone who is involved in the decision making process is fighting a big dilemma.

The point is because there must be self-control for both the teams and supporters, at least they must comply with the existing rules and set out during this pandemic.
as you said nothing is 100% right and wrong in this case because all have a share that can be said to be equal.
and again, we can't know where, who and how this process happened because it can't be seen with the naked eye

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Quote from: Red Pie on January 09, 2022, 02:39:55 AM

Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on January 02, 2022, 03:20:09 PM

Especially with this new virus and the new variant. Infections just keep coming. That will certainly affect the Champions League. How would they deal with that if there were too many infections? The interests are immense, you can't just postpone a match on the same day. Just think, for example, of all the supporters who have bought a ticket. But there is no other solution. Keeping everyone in a quarantine environment would still be possible, but there is no time for that.

Probably the measures to be taken will be determined before the matches begin. Maybe they will go the way of audience restriction, like in Serie A. Maybe the fans want proof that he has been vaccinated and they take him to the stadium like that. Football is good with fans. The new virus and the new variant have affected football all over the world. There will definitely be teams in the Champions League that will be affected by this. Think about it, you have a game one day later and your 4-5 players from the first squad are infected. You will probably have lost the tour. This year may not be very fair due to the virus.

You are right. If a team has infected players before game day, it will somewhat mean that their tournament is over. As for the fans, maybe showing their vaccination card or report could be an option.
But if the games are played without the fans, it will be a loss for everyone. The fans as they won't be able to see the game, the players as they will lose motivation, and the club itself because a huge amount of revenue comes from the tickets.

If they do frequent testing there shouldn't be an infection bomb hitting anytime just one day before game day. I agree never say never, but there is some degree of control you can have over your club's situation. As for the fans, well, difficult to tell. It is a loss from many perspectives, but it might be a necessary evil to protect people as well. It is not only about the people who are in the stadium themselves, it is also about the traveling to the games and home again, and also about all the contacts people have. There is no 100% right or wrong, but I do understand that everyone who is involved in the decision making process is fighting a big dilemma.

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Quote from: Red Pie on January 09, 2022, 02:39:55 AM

Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on January 02, 2022, 03:20:09 PM

Especially with this new virus and the new variant. Infections just keep coming. That will certainly affect the Champions League. How would they deal with that if there were too many infections? The interests are immense, you can't just postpone a match on the same day. Just think, for example, of all the supporters who have bought a ticket. But there is no other solution. Keeping everyone in a quarantine environment would still be possible, but there is no time for that.

Probably the measures to be taken will be determined before the matches begin. Maybe they will go the way of audience restriction, like in Serie A. Maybe the fans want proof that he has been vaccinated and they take him to the stadium like that. Football is good with fans. The new virus and the new variant have affected football all over the world. There will definitely be teams in the Champions League that will be affected by this. Think about it, you have a game one day later and your 4-5 players from the first squad are infected. You will probably have lost the tour. This year may not be very fair due to the virus.

You are right. If a team has infected players before game day, it will somewhat mean that their tournament is over. As for the fans, maybe showing their vaccination card or report could be an option.
But if the games are played without the fans, it will be a loss for everyone. The fans as they won't be able to see the game, the players as they will lose motivation, and the club itself because a huge amount of revenue comes from the tickets.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 09, 2022, 03:15:30 AM

Quote from: skarais on January 08, 2022, 11:42:49 AM

Quote from: Jackl87 on January 07, 2022, 05:30:29 AM

I also think that ManCity is one of the big favorites to win the champions league title.

I wouldn't make Manchester City favorites too early to win the title this season but if they do make it to the final then I believe there's a pretty good chance of winning it. They certainly have to learn from last season's mistakes, so maybe they really want to do it this season. Don't forget, Bayern Munchen, PSG and Real Madrid still have the opportunity to do the same and this is still unpredictable. There is nothing wrong with choosing Manchester City, but this is only the last 16.

Manchester City certainly has a good chance to win the Champions League, but the same can be said for PSG, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern, Real etc.
In fact, Manchester City is the favorite to win the Champions League every year since Guardiola became their coach, but they always seem to be missing something to take that last step and win the Champions League.
I have a feeling that in the decisive matches of the Champions League, Guardiola always tries to play without risk and safely, and such tactics have not paid off so far.
We’ll see this year if Guardiola has learned anything from past failures.

City this season looks like a complete team who are good in every aspect, defense, midfield, and attack.
I think if they are able to buy a pure striker in this transfer window, that would be really good for them but other than that, they seem quite strong. The Semi-final draw might play an important role if they qualify. I think this season's CL is gonna be quite on even ground. As all of City, PSG, Real, Bayern look like very good teams.

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Quote from: skarais on January 08, 2022, 11:42:49 AM

Quote from: Jackl87 on January 07, 2022, 05:30:29 AM

I also think that ManCity is one of the big favorites to win the champions league title.

I wouldn't make Manchester City favorites too early to win the title this season but if they do make it to the final then I believe there's a pretty good chance of winning it. They certainly have to learn from last season's mistakes, so maybe they really want to do it this season. Don't forget, Bayern Munchen, PSG and Real Madrid still have the opportunity to do the same and this is still unpredictable. There is nothing wrong with choosing Manchester City, but this is only the last 16.

Manchester City certainly has a good chance to win the Champions League, but the same can be said for PSG, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern, Real etc.
In fact, Manchester City is the favorite to win the Champions League every year since Guardiola became their coach, but they always seem to be missing something to take that last step and win the Champions League.
I have a feeling that in the decisive matches of the Champions League, Guardiola always tries to play without risk and safely, and such tactics have not paid off so far.
We’ll see this year if Guardiola has learned anything from past failures.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on January 02, 2022, 03:20:09 PM

Especially with this new virus and the new variant. Infections just keep coming. That will certainly affect the Champions League. How would they deal with that if there were too many infections? The interests are immense, you can't just postpone a match on the same day. Just think, for example, of all the supporters who have bought a ticket. But there is no other solution. Keeping everyone in a quarantine environment would still be possible, but there is no time for that.

Probably the measures to be taken will be determined before the matches begin. Maybe they will go the way of audience restriction, like in Serie A. Maybe the fans want proof that he has been vaccinated and they take him to the stadium like that. Football is good with fans. The new virus and the new variant have affected football all over the world. There will definitely be teams in the Champions League that will be affected by this. Think about it, you have a game one day later and your 4-5 players from the first squad are infected. You will probably have lost the tour. This year may not be very fair due to the virus.

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Quote from: blackened515 on January 08, 2022, 05:05:42 PM

Nevertheless, Am quite sure that many goals will be scored.

Without a doubt, we should expect more goals in these games. Since UEFA ended the away goals rule as a tiebreaker in the qualifiers.
Now, if the teams add the same number of goals in both legs of a tie, this will be decided through extra time and, if neither of them scores goals, there will be a penalty shoot-out.

In other words, teams should no longer play in such a defensive way in the first leg. You will see how teams will react to these new rules.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2022, 03:42:36 AM

Liverpool have a tough draw against Inter actually. Maybe Inter aren't one of the favourite teams of the title but they are still a dangerous team. Their performance in this season also is very good as we can understand from their place in the Serie A too. They aren't doing bad in the Champions League also which should be enough to be a warning to Liverpool. But I still expect Liverpool to eliminate them.

Inter are in a solid form this season. They have a great squad also, and can't probably be beaten easily in a match. On the other hand is Liverpool, also a strong team. This match will indeed be interesting. I guess Inter might resist Liverpool in a first leg which they will be hosting on the 16th of next month. But, I don't think Inter can still resist Liverpool in the 2nd leg. Anyway, let me not be quick to judge because the round 16 will be full of surprises. Nevertheless, Am quite sure that many goals will be scored.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 08, 2022, 03:26:10 AM

Sporting is a very young and inexperienced team in the Champions League. Despite being a well organized group, it will be very difficult for them to get a good result with Man City.

Indeed.
Sporting may still need more time to be able to compete with Man City and this may not be the time for them. But again, it's true, Man City still has to be serious against any club and can't take it lightly.

Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2022, 03:42:36 AM

Liverpool have a tough draw against Inter actually. Maybe Inter aren't one of the favourite teams of the title but they are still a dangerous team.

This is an interesting match too. Liverpool is the top club in their group while Inter is in the other runners-up group.
However, both of them have been doing pretty well so far. However, Liverpool should have had a greater chance of winning in that leg against Inter, but yes, of course, we'll see what happens in the future.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2022, 03:42:36 AM

Liverpool have a tough draw against Inter actually. Maybe Inter aren't one of the favourite teams of the title but they are still a dangerous team. Their performance in this season also is very good as we can understand from their place in the Serie A too. They aren't doing bad in the Champions League also which should be enough to be a warning to Liverpool. But I still expect Liverpool to eliminate them.

Many people and pundits seem to have already written off inter Milan in this particular draw, but I still think it's going to be a really tough game for Liverpool, Inter Milan are a very strong side that can pose quite a lot of problems and if Liverpool are not careful they could be eliminated by them, I'm pretty sure Klopp must have talked to his players to be weary of the threat Inter can pose, so they do not become complacent and find themselves in a really difficult situation.

Quote from: joker_josue on January 08, 2022, 03:26:10 AM

I won't say that Man City will have an easier time, but they should have no difficulty in winning both games against Sporting.

I have to completely agree with you, City are firing on all cylinders, and Sporting isn't even the sort of team to actually give City too many problems, after getting to the final last season, City are my favorites for the title as I expect then to go a step further and finally win the CL.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on January 07, 2022, 05:30:29 AM

I also think that ManCity is one of the big favorites to win the champions league title.

I wouldn't make Manchester City favorites too early to win the title this season but if they do make it to the final then I believe there's a pretty good chance of winning it. They certainly have to learn from last season's mistakes, so maybe they really want to do it this season. Don't forget, Bayern Munchen, PSG and Real Madrid still have the opportunity to do the same and this is still unpredictable. There is nothing wrong with choosing Manchester City, but this is only the last 16.

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It is really good to see that Real Madrid are playing as a real team now.

You mean they haven't been playing a Real team before?
So what happens if they beat PSG. Does PSG suddenly turn “unreal”?

I mean that Real Madrid haven't ever been this much good since Ronaldo left the team. Now in this season, they are showing incredible performances in the La Liga and the Champions League both. It is like they are back in their old days.

And this is really good for me truthfully. I want to see Real Madrid playing like this and being this much determined. And I can't even imagine how much powerful they will be in case they manage to sign Mbappe and Haaland both or even one of them.

I totally agree with your opinion, it even seems to me that they are playing better now than when Ronaldo was their player.
Having a big star like Ronaldo in the team is not always a guarantee of a good result and success, as Juve and Manchester United could see.
What is much more important is team spirit and team play.
After all, Benzema has been in Ronaldo's shadow for a long time and now he has shown how good a striker and that he is and a real replacement for him.

I have the same ideas with you trough Cristiano Ronaldo move to Manchester United make difference composition and scoring goal most focus for him, I think is very bad for team working because all destination goal and chance should give to him. Looks what happen with Real Madrid after leaving by Ronaldo and now they can be team working and all goal not only focus with one player. Benzema can scoring many goals but he can give assist for his friend without focus he always should made goal on every match.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2022, 03:42:36 AM

Liverpool have a tough draw against Inter actually. Maybe Inter aren't one of the favourite teams of the title but they are still a dangerous team. Their performance in this season also is very good as we can understand from their place in the Serie A too. They aren't doing bad in the Champions League also which should be enough to be a warning to Liverpool. But I still expect Liverpool to eliminate them.

They are two great sides, coming up with astonishing performance when they want too.
Having a great home record both, it's just hard for done to decide who wins at their home games respectively.
Inter Milan have less home loss and Liverpool on the other has the same also, with this I'm a bit off,let the best side move to the next round.

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