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January 02, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
Especially with this new virus and the new variant. Infections just keep coming. That will certainly affect the Champions League. How would they deal with that if there were too many infections? The interests are immense, you can't just postpone a match on the same day. Just think, for example, of all the supporters who have bought a ticket. But there is no other solution. Keeping everyone in a quarantine environment would still be possible, but there is no time for that.
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January 02, 2022, 02:30:59 PM
the spread of covid is still worrying so far even though the league is still rolling and I hope this spread can be quickly resolved. Because if the situation is still like this, I'm just worried that the teams that play in UCL are not in good condition because it's possible that one of the players, staff and coaches may be infected. As it is now, from one of the news that I got that Klopp was unable to accompany Liverpool in today's EPL match against Chelsea because Klopp was identified as having Covid. Cases like that are certainly a concern, because if it happened to a team competing in UCL then it would have a bad impact on the team itself and of course very unfortunate.
I do not know what can be done about it, it is a disease and it is a virus that spreads like wildfire and it has been nearly 2 full years with it and we still can't figure out how to fix it. Last season was a lot better, but we are not doing anything different this year compared to last season, for some reason this season players are getting covid a lot more faster than last season, probably due to new variant being easier to spread as well.

I have to say that there is a good chance we could end up with postponing the whole season once again like we did in 2020. That year we gave a break for a while, then came back to finish once again with no one in the stadium and I am fearing that the same thing could happen again.

I guess this will all come down to the development of Covid during the next weeks and possible new, more aggressive variants. The biggest problem for the international competitions is the traveling. Did you read the news about the scientists at the polar station? They were PCR tested two times before and during their journey. They stopped in Africa and all got into quarantine. Then tested again. Then flew to the polar station and boom, several infections. Now there are emergency doctors taking care of them. So even when you are extremely careful, traveling is one of the greatest risks to get infected.
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January 02, 2022, 01:18:07 PM
the spread of covid is still worrying so far even though the league is still rolling and I hope this spread can be quickly resolved. Because if the situation is still like this, I'm just worried that the teams that play in UCL are not in good condition because it's possible that one of the players, staff and coaches may be infected. As it is now, from one of the news that I got that Klopp was unable to accompany Liverpool in today's EPL match against Chelsea because Klopp was identified as having Covid. Cases like that are certainly a concern, because if it happened to a team competing in UCL then it would have a bad impact on the team itself and of course very unfortunate.
I do not know what can be done about it, it is a disease and it is a virus that spreads like wildfire and it has been nearly 2 full years with it and we still can't figure out how to fix it. Last season was a lot better, but we are not doing anything different this year compared to last season, for some reason this season players are getting covid a lot more faster than last season, probably due to new variant being easier to spread as well.

I have to say that there is a good chance we could end up with postponing the whole season once again like we did in 2020. That year we gave a break for a while, then came back to finish once again with no one in the stadium and I am fearing that the same thing could happen again.
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January 02, 2022, 12:06:37 PM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool
If it's not a problem for Liverpool, I don't think Liverpool will be a team that can be beaten "easily".  I hope that there will not be a situation where Tottenham, whose many players are infected due to the coronavirus, is forfeited due to the fact that they did not play in the Rennes match.  Because the Inter-Liverpool match will be a high quality match.  On the one hand, Italy's leading team Inter, on the other hand, Liverpool, one of the best quality teams in the Premier League.  It will be like the Champions League final.  It will be very enjoyable to watch this match.  We will watch a better match especially when both teams are on the field with all their players.
Yes, the spread of covid is still worrying so far even though the league is still rolling and I hope this spread can be quickly resolved. Because if the situation is still like this, I'm just worried that the teams that play in UCL are not in good condition because it's possible that one of the players, staff and coaches may be infected. As it is now, from one of the news that I got that Klopp was unable to accompany Liverpool in today's EPL match against Chelsea because Klopp was identified as having Covid. Cases like that are certainly a concern, because if it happened to a team competing in UCL then it would have a bad impact on the team itself and of course very unfortunate.

Actually, COVID has had a very bad effect on the game overall. If a major player of a team is affected by COVID it will definitely affect their gameplay on the pitch as they are lacking an important player on the field.

Yes, Klopp situation can be a good example in this case. He was not available on the dug out in that game and, One can easily see that it affected their game somewhat as a coach's direction is really important on the pitch. All I can say is that, We hope that COVID doesn't become a barrier in Liverpool’s success or any team’s success.
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January 02, 2022, 11:51:05 AM
I think that Inter will play defense and counterattack, not ball control, no Tiki-Taka. To control the ball, the pressure of your lines must be very high, this is ideal for Liverpool which loves open football and here it will definitely beat Inter. In this scenario, the score could be 6-3 in favor of Liverpool. Inter chances is a defensive play where the defensive line is as low as possible and plays securely, the midfield mostly destroying and waiting for their chance to attack.

Sad to add this, but besides strategy I also think that Corona could play an important factor indeed. Nobody knows what's going to happen within the next couple of weeks and I really expect some bad decisions need to be made by UEFA. Both Inter and Liverpool literally have the same offense/defense statistics right now with +34 goals in their favor each. Besides Madrid vs Atletico this is also sort of a preliminary final.

Do you mean Real Madrid - PSG?
As for the virus, Liverpool is clearly in a better position - judging by the news from the EPL there is already a peak of the new wave, so by the first playoff matches the probability that this whole story will end is very high. While other European clubs (including Inter) may still suffer from this.

My bad, thanks for the correction. Yes, I was referring to Real Madrid - PSG of course. Both the games are preliminary finals in a sense. Well, it is said that the wave is about to peak (or is peaking right now), but honestly, the one thing we have all learned from this pandemic that is beyond doubt true, is the fact that nothing can be reliably predicted Tongue Sad to say that, but it is what it is. There might be the next variant underway already...
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January 02, 2022, 11:15:15 AM
I agree with you on the PSG vs Real part. Most people will think that PSG will win the matchup easily as they have a better attack. 
Yes, they do have a better attacking trio but it is also true that Real has one of the best midfield trios, and Alaba and Militao has become a wall in the defense for them.

PSG have a better attacking trio but Real have a very well-rounded balanced team. But it sucks to see one of these two get eliminated at such an early stage. Apart from these two, Man City and Bayern seem like real solid teams to me.
There will always be a lot compared to PSG and Real Madrid, both clubs are very big with lots of talented players, so this will be proven in the champions league who is stronger to stay afloat even though we have the best trio of players we have to look at other teams who are better solid from PSG and Real Madrid so the UCL competition is not easy for us to predict at this time the game can change even though they have talented players.
But indeed we see how Bayern, who always win big in their UCL, indicates that they are solid and are likely to be the reigning champions this season.
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January 02, 2022, 10:23:36 AM
I agree and it is actually a shame and an injustice that one of the favorites to win the Champions League will drop out of the competition at such an early stage.
It seems to me that most commentators here think that PSG is a better and stronger team and that Real has less chance of winning but I disagree with that opinion.
PSG has a really great team but they also have serious problems.
It's no secret that Messi, Mbappe and Neymar do not like to play in defense, and that they often just walk around the center of the field and wait for the ball to go on the attack.
Sometimes it seems that PSG has three players less in defense which is not a problem when they play against weaker teams but it is a serious problem when they play against top teams like Manchester City, as we could see last year.
Also, there are rumors that relationships within the team and between players and coaches are not ideal.
Personally, I think Real is currently a more complete and better team than PSG.

I agree with you on the PSG vs Real part. Most people will think that PSG will win the matchup easily as they have a better attack. 
Yes, they do have a better attacking trio but it is also true that Real has one of the best midfield trios, and Alaba and Militao has become a wall in the defense for them.

PSG have a better attacking trio but Real have a very well-rounded balanced team. But it sucks to see one of these two get eliminated at such an early stage. Apart from these two, Man City and Bayern seem like real solid teams to me.
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January 02, 2022, 07:11:34 AM
We are already in 2022 and there is a one-and-a-half-month time period left for the games of the next stage to start. The games that I'm looking forward to watching are between PSG and Real Madrid of course. This is really no different than a final matchup in the Champions League. Because these teams both are doing a great job here and in their own domestic leagues. They are really dominating their leagues right now. I haven't seen Real Madrid this powerful for some years. Although I'm favouring PSG to advance, Real Madrid would also be able to advance and it wouldn't be surprising.

I agree and it is actually a shame and an injustice that one of the favorites to win the Champions League will drop out of the competition at such an early stage.
It seems to me that most commentators here think that PSG is a better and stronger team and that Real has less chance of winning but I disagree with that opinion.
PSG has a really great team but they also have serious problems.
It's no secret that Messi, Mbappe and Neymar do not like to play in defense, and that they often just walk around the center of the field and wait for the ball to go on the attack.
Sometimes it seems that PSG has three players less in defense which is not a problem when they play against weaker teams but it is a serious problem when they play against top teams like Manchester City, as we could see last year.
Also, there are rumors that relationships within the team and between players and coaches are not ideal.
Personally, I think Real is currently a more complete and better team than PSG.
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January 02, 2022, 05:01:22 AM
I think that Inter will play defense and counterattack, not ball control, no Tiki-Taka. To control the ball, the pressure of your lines must be very high, this is ideal for Liverpool which loves open football and here it will definitely beat Inter. In this scenario, the score could be 6-3 in favor of Liverpool. Inter chances is a defensive play where the defensive line is as low as possible and plays securely, the midfield mostly destroying and waiting for their chance to attack.

Sad to add this, but besides strategy I also think that Corona could play an important factor indeed. Nobody knows what's going to happen within the next couple of weeks and I really expect some bad decisions need to be made by UEFA. Both Inter and Liverpool literally have the same offense/defense statistics right now with +34 goals in their favor each. Besides Madrid vs Atletico this is also sort of a preliminary final.

Do you mean Real Madrid - PSG?
As for the virus, Liverpool is clearly in a better position - judging by the news from the EPL there is already a peak of the new wave, so by the first playoff matches the probability that this whole story will end is very high. While other European clubs (including Inter) may still suffer from this.
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January 02, 2022, 04:33:03 AM

Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool

If it's not a problem for Liverpool, I don't think Liverpool will be a team that can be beaten "easily".  I hope that there will not be a situation where Tottenham, whose many players are infected due to the coronavirus, is forfeited due to the fact that they did not play in the Rennes match.  Because the Inter-Liverpool match will be a high quality match.  On the one hand, Italy's leading team Inter, on the other hand, Liverpool, one of the best quality teams in the Premier League.  It will be like the Champions League final.  It will be very enjoyable to watch this match.  We will watch a better match especially when both teams are on the field with all their players.
Yes, the spread of covid is still worrying so far even though the league is still rolling and I hope this spread can be quickly resolved. Because if the situation is still like this, I'm just worried that the teams that play in UCL are not in good condition because it's possible that one of the players, staff and coaches may be infected. As it is now, from one of the news that I got that Klopp was unable to accompany Liverpool in today's EPL match against Chelsea because Klopp was identified as having Covid. Cases like that are certainly a concern, because if it happened to a team competing in UCL then it would have a bad impact on the team itself and of course very unfortunate.
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January 02, 2022, 01:46:25 AM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool
When look Liverpool lose versus Leicester where is the trading topic, this means Inter can do make them lose also. But, in 2 months, Liverpool surely make a big change for the situation. I'm really sure, Liverpool can make adversity in San Siro (Giuseppe Meazza) as they did in round 16, 2008 win 0-1, at that time inter have Ibrahimovic and Cruz, while Liverpool have Torres where he did a goal and Gerard as Captain.

As much as this might sound easy for one to say football is a game played on the pitch and not some kind of mathematical equation either.
Liverpool are a beatable team of course but to belittle them because Leicester beat them does not make them weak opponents, the champions league is a different ball game altogether and i think these guys are still favorites for this fixture and i see them winning as well.
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January 02, 2022, 01:40:49 AM

Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool

If it's not a problem for Liverpool, I don't think Liverpool will be a team that can be beaten "easily".  I hope that there will not be a situation where Tottenham, whose many players are infected due to the coronavirus, is forfeited due to the fact that they did not play in the Rennes match.  Because the Inter-Liverpool match will be a high quality match.  On the one hand, Italy's leading team Inter, on the other hand, Liverpool, one of the best quality teams in the Premier League.  It will be like the Champions League final.  It will be very enjoyable to watch this match.  We will watch a better match especially when both teams are on the field with all their players.
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January 01, 2022, 10:52:47 PM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool
When look Liverpool lose versus Leicester where is the trading topic, this means Inter can do make them lose also. But, in 2 months, Liverpool surely make a big change for the situation. I'm really sure, Liverpool can make adversity in San Siro (Giuseppe Meazza) as they did in round 16, 2008 win 0-1, at that time inter have Ibrahimovic and Cruz, while Liverpool have Torres where he did a goal and Gerard as Captain.
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January 01, 2022, 06:54:41 PM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool

I think that Inter will play defense and counterattack, not ball control, no Tiki-Taka. To control the ball, the pressure of your lines must be very high, this is ideal for Liverpool which loves open football and here it will definitely beat Inter. In this scenario, the score could be 6-3 in favor of Liverpool. Inter chances is a defensive play where the defensive line is as low as possible and plays securely, the midfield mostly destroying and waiting for their chance to attack.

Sad to add this, but besides strategy I also think that Corona could play an important factor indeed. Nobody knows what's going to happen within the next couple of weeks and I really expect some bad decisions need to be made by UEFA. Both Inter and Liverpool literally have the same offense/defense statistics right now with +34 goals in their favor each. Besides Madrid vs Atletico this is also sort of a preliminary final.
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January 01, 2022, 05:42:38 PM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool

I think that Inter will play defense and counterattack, not ball control, no Tiki-Taka. To control the ball, the pressure of your lines must be very high, this is ideal for Liverpool which loves open football and here it will definitely beat Inter. In this scenario, the score could be 6-3 in favor of Liverpool. Inter chances is a defensive play where the defensive line is as low as possible and plays securely, the midfield mostly destroying and waiting for their chance to attack.
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January 01, 2022, 04:27:19 PM
Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool
Nothing is easy, Liverpool are a mentally strong team in the Champions League and they are not easy to beat. Both teams have equal chances of trying to win the match in 2 legs away and home, so there is nothing wrong with optimism but never overlook the fact that every team is equally eager to qualify for the next round.

The Champions League will start in February, so we will just have to wait to see if the match can be played or not, given the cases of COVID-19 infection, it is not yet predictable when it will end.
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January 01, 2022, 04:14:06 PM
Maybe it is a bit unfortunate for Inter Milan to have Liverpool as an opponent. But the Inter Milan team should not be underestimated. They have the ability to beat Liverpool. Liverpool is definitely a strong team. However, Liverpool must play well if they want to win against Inter Milan. Liverpool will lose points if they make a mistake. If they think Inter Milan is weak then it will be their big mistake.

At this stage of the tournament, this is not the worst option, and in any case, if Inter wants to win the tournament, it must be ready for any opponent. If not at this stage, then in the next stage, the likelihood of meeting a top club is very high. And in my opinion it is better to lose to Liverpool than, for example, to Lill  Grin

I agree with you, because all the teams that are currently in the round of 16 are great teams and should not be underestimated, I think both Inter Milan and Liverpool have equal chances of winning the match, Liverpool is indeed considered one of the strong candidates for champions league champions, but that doesn't mean they can't be beaten by inter milan.
The Champions League is the most prestigious inter-club football competition so whoever the team advances to the next round is the best and whoever the opponent has to be ready to compete.
and if you look at the four meetings between Inter Milan and Liverpool, Liverpool is more favored because of three wins and one defeat from Inter Milan and besides this season Liverpool are in very good condition and become champion candidates.
and both of these will be very interesting matches to watch and whoever wins is the best.

Anything can happen, it's not a given that Inter will lose these matches. Think back to Ajax, who were tearing things up when no one believed in them. The Champions League doesn't loom on the horizon, but I think it's safe to bet that both teams will score. But that's my opinion. Italy's tika-taka can easily beat Liverpool
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January 01, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
We are already in 2022 and there is a one-and-a-half-month time period left for the games of the next stage to start. The games that I'm looking forward to watching are between PSG and Real Madrid of course. This is really no different than a final matchup in the Champions League. Because these teams both are doing a great job here and in their own domestic leagues. They are really dominating their leagues right now. I haven't seen Real Madrid this powerful for some years. Although I'm favouring PSG to advance, Real Madrid would also be able to advance and it wouldn't be surprising.
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January 01, 2022, 03:24:59 PM
Also, in the previous season Manchester City were very close to the UCL title but unfortunately, City with Pep were defeated by Chelsea with Tuchel. While at that time it was clear, at least Manchester City were in a better situation and condition than Chelsea. But unfortunately, the results are still not as expected and Pep still has to work even harder this season, because the UCL title is certainly a target that must be achieved before his contract runs out. I prefer this season's UCL final match to be for Manchester City v Bayern Munich, but it looks like they will face off in the quarter-finals if I look at the chart.
I am very sorry to see Guardiola and Manchester City fail in the Champions League final last season, it was really a bad day for them in one season. I don't want to see them suffer the same fate again if Manchester City reach the final this season.

If indeed Bayern Munchen will meet Manchester City in the quarter-finals, then I believe it is a final match too early in the Champions League. I don't expect there will be 2 English team in the final this season, but I'm sure the title will still belong to the English team again this season.
The failure in Pep Guardiola's final last season was dark but this time will try again to start his debut to advance to the final as expected so if they meet of course it will be tough to face Bayern Munich but Pep probably already knows how Bayern's tactics because he had previously coached it in the past.

4 English league teams qualify for the round of 16 for me there is a possibility that 3 English league teams will qualify for the semifinals or finals as the final goal and still my strongest candidate between the English league teams and the French league.
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January 01, 2022, 12:39:20 PM
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I mostly agree with your choice of the main favorites to win the Champions League, but I don't understand why you didn't add Chelsea, the current European champions, to the list.
Chelsea is very good in the English championship this year as well, they showed that they are a very high quality and experienced team, and I would not be surprised if they go to the final again, and in one game everything is always possible.
By no means should they be underestimated.
PSG and Manchester City are under a lot of pressure because a lot of money has been invested in their teams and there is no trophy yet.
Therefore, I would give even a small advantage to Real because they know how to win trophies.

Real Madrid is a team who knows very well how to win the do-or-die matches.

Also, I would like to add Chelsea and they have a very well-rounded team this season and have very good squad depth. Man. City, PSG, and Bayern are very strong teams for the title. PSG have a deadly attack, Bayern have Lewa, and Man'City are playing a very well-rounded team-game. Hoping for a thrilling final third of CL.
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