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Here we go again with shitty National games. 2 weeks without our loved League and Champion's League.
Anyway this is the last time and we have some good odds for some teams.

What do you’ll think of Southgates decision to leave Sterling out of Thursday’s game, considering he’s their best player I felt he should have been in the playing 11.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/gomez-and-i-are-good-sterling-says-emotions-got-the-better/ug7ft5pc07d61sg0b5iy1tw3r

I believe it was a terrible decision on the part of Gareth Southgate, if there was a fight, I believe both players should have been punished and not just one player which is going to alienate Sterling from the squad, He is arguably their best player at the moment and from the excerpts of the Liverpool and Manchester City game I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Gomez started the whole altercation just like he did during the weekend game.

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Good for you
There were no tickets for “supporters vulgaris” at all

Out team is not in the best shape, but I still have bih faith that we will win with a handicap
Cause, the water is up to our ears, and we don’t have other exit to take for the next stage

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Quote from: big_daddy on November 12, 2019, 12:39:57 PM

Croatia has to win or draw against Slovakia to qualify
The match is this Saturday

Don't even mention draw, our players will hear you and get out on the pitch with wrong mentality

They have to play as only 3 points from this match is enough and hopefully that kind of attitude will bring us an easy game.

Hopefully I'll go watch them live, after all they are playing in my town. It was a problem getting a ticket but friend of mine (lucky bastard) managed to get it and now it seems he will have to go on some birthday party with his wife (not so lucky bastard). So I am adding a bit of oil to the fire and hoping he will let go of his ticket

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 12, 2019, 11:38:37 AM

Here we go again with shitty National games. 2 weeks without our loved League and Champion's League.
Anyway this is the last time and we have some good odds for some teams.
The team already qualified could use new and younger players to test them so keep an eye on already qualificated teams.

I really hate this International breaks. Last time when we had break we had Salah with his ankle injury and we had to settle for a draw with Utd. These breaks make the players unfocused and there we have tiredness as well.

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Some national trams has one, someone two more games to play
Keep that in mind when you start to analyze the match

Croatia has to win or draw against Slovakia to qualify
The match is this Saturday

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 12, 2019, 11:38:37 AM

Here we go again with shitty National games. 2 weeks without our loved League and Champion's League.
Anyway this is the last time and we have some good odds for some teams.

@coinlocket$ i can feel your emotions but there’s nothing we can do, except wait patiently for Champions League games to resume. What do you’ll think of Southgates decision to leave Sterling out of Thursday’s game, considering he’s their best player I felt he should have been in the playing 11.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/gomez-and-i-are-good-sterling-says-emotions-got-the-better/ug7ft5pc07d61sg0b5iy1tw3r

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on November 12, 2019, 11:21:42 AM

Turkey vs Iceland and Czech Republic vs Kosovo are the most interesting games. If Czech Republic wins, they qualify to the next Euro, and Turkey only needs a draw to qualify.

If Turkey wins or draw the game against Iceland, not only they will qualify for UEFA Euro 2020, but France will also qualify regardless of the result of their game against Moldova.
If Turkey lose to Iceland, France should win Moldova if they want to qualify for final tournament this Thursday.

In group A, England needs a draw against Montenegro to qualify. Even if they lose the game, they will qualify for final tournament if Czech Republic vs Kosovo game doesn't end in a draw.

In group B, Ukraine has already qualified and Portugal and Serbia will try to qualify for UEFA Euro 2020 as the runners-up. Portugal has a bigger chance. Because they have one point more than Serbia. Also, Portugal will face against Lithuania and Luxembourg while Serbia will face against Luxembourg and Ukraine. The second team will be likely determined on November 17.

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Here we go again with shitty National games. 2 weeks without our loved League and Champion's League.
Anyway this is the last time and we have some good odds for some teams.
The team already qualified could use new and younger players to test them so keep an eye on already qualificated teams.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 16, 2019, 09:43:50 AM

Alright, time to leave this discussion thread for a while, see you all in November.

Well, it's November, so why don't we bump this bad boy and start discussing the last two Matchdays of the Euro Qualifiers?

Matchday 9 starts next Thursday with these games:

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Turkey vs Iceland and Czech Republic vs Kosovo are the most interesting games. If Czech Republic wins, they qualify to the next Euro, and Turkey only needs a draw to qualify.

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Quote from: yoseph on October 17, 2019, 11:06:01 AM

Quote from: slackovic on October 17, 2019, 01:53:25 AM

I think that Croatia had much more chance to win against a team who is attacking them. We don't play well against a team who's only concern is to defend their goal (as we've seen in the games against Azerbaijan and Wales). Also, Daniel91 said one more problem with our coach - he doesn't have the guts to put younger players in the game. For example, in the last two games Perišić was so bad and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts again against Slovakia.

It's not really being fair to Wales when you claim that their only concern was defending their goal because when you look at the games in perspective and the statistics you will see that Wales had the same shot as Croatia with them even one more shot on target than Croatia. Wales seems to have a slim chance of qualifying because they are bound to win against Azerbaijan which will take them one point behind Hungary who they have to win against if they want to qualify.

Well... Maybe it's true that Wales had the same shots as Croatia, but you can't say that Wales was attacking when Croatia had 80% ball possession. Maybe I'm biased (I'm from Croatia), but I think Croatia was attacking and Wales was getting their chances on counter attack. Don't get me wrong. I don't think that Croatia deserved to win. I think that a draw was fair outcome of that game.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 18, 2019, 05:25:22 AM

Croatia played very well in the World cup in Russia last year and this final we will never forget.
But, in qualifying phase Croatia always had a lot problems, (since the beginning in 1996) I can't understand why.
Is problem with motivation or new players need time to get to know others in the team or some other reasons?
Also, we don't have enough stability, many times we started match well, like with Hungary or Wales but lost on the end.
This match with Slovakia can be very difficult for Croatia since almost half defense players missing (Lovren and Vida ), other players don't play in their clubs like Lovren or Rakitic and others don't play like in the world cup last year.
Atmosphere before match is already very tense because of some internal strugles in Croatian football assosiation so I 'm not 100 % confident that Croatia will win easily this match.
It will be very difficult and much harder match than in Slovakia.

because that's football. anything can happen. but keep in mind Croatia has never lost this Euro 2020 qualifier. and it looks like Slovakia also can't play their defender because in the last match he received a red card.

I have to correct you; Croatia lost 1 match, from Hungary 2:1.
Also, Croatia lost 2 defense players for this last match with Slovakia, Vida and Lovren and don't have good replacement for them.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 18, 2019, 05:25:22 AM

Croatia played very well in the World cup in Russia last year and this final we will never forget.
But, in qualifying phase Croatia always had a lot problems, (since the beginning in 1996) I can't understand why.
Is problem with motivation or new players need time to get to know others in the team or some other reasons?
Also, we don't have enough stability, many times we started match well, like with Hungary or Wales but lost on the end.
This match with Slovakia can be very difficult for Croatia since almost half defense players missing (Lovren and Vida ), other players don't play in their clubs like Lovren or Rakitic and others don't play like in the world cup last year.
Atmosphere before match is already very tense because of some internal strugles in Croatian football assosiation so I 'm not 100 % confident that Croatia will win easily this match.
It will be very difficult and much harder match than in Slovakia.

because that's football. anything can happen. but keep in mind Croatia has never lost this Euro 2020 qualifier. and it looks like Slovakia also can't play their defender because in the last match he received a red card.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on October 17, 2019, 11:11:08 PM

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My prediction Slovakia will get 4 points in the next 2 matches, draw against Croatia and win against Azerbaijan
then they will see the results of the Hungary match because here the determination whether they qualify or not

My prediction is 3 points against Azerbaijan and 0 points vs Croatia. A draw isn't impossible but it will be very hard to achieve. I expect two goals difference at least for Croatia.

I don't deny your prediction because Croatia is better based on match statistics but Slovakia will be motivated in this important match so they can do anything unexpected
Yes, however we have to wait for this match next month

have a good statistics and playing in their own home is an advantage for Croatia. but anything can happen, especially now that their players have returned to their clubs. it could be injured when playing with their club and could not play for their country when they return to the Euro 2020 qualifiers next month

Yes, that's one reason there might still be some problems later on in the match, red cards, ban on playing, injuries and more.
Slovakia once defeated Hungary when playing away, this might happen again Wink

Croatia played very well in the World cup in Russia last year and this final we will never forget.
But, in qualifying phase Croatia always had a lot problems, (since the beginning in 1996) I can't understand why.
Is problem with motivation or new players need time to get to know others in the team or some other reasons?
Also, we don't have enough stability, many times we started match well, like with Hungary or Wales but lost on the end.
This match with Slovakia can be very difficult for Croatia since almost half defense players missing (Lovren and Vida ), other players don't play in their clubs like Lovren or Rakitic and others don't play like in the world cup last year.
Atmosphere before match is already very tense because of some internal strugles in Croatian football assosiation so I 'm not 100 % confident that Croatia will win easily this match.
It will be very difficult and much harder match than in Slovakia.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 17, 2019, 01:09:49 PM

That makes sense when you are France and replace Varane with Umtiti or something like that. When you are Croatia, the choice is between Rakitić and Badelj. So, if you ask me, Rakitić can come drunk wearing a blindfold and have his feet stuck in concrete shoes and he'd still be my preferred choice. Same goes for some other positions in our team, including Lovren for example - a player I do not value at all. He will play if he does not get a game for Liverpool for an entire season and it will still be the best thing for Croatia.

Croatia is a good team with some great players. However, that team does not have depth like many other top teams do.

To be fair to every team in the group stage, they are there because they are the best in Europe. Croatia has a great team,,, but like you said, depth is their problem and the problem of almost any national team with small population. But for me as long as they constantly play together,,, they can overcome this issue, but the problem is to have 23 people always play together and that is only possible for countries like Iceland where the players do not all play for other clubs;)

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on October 17, 2019, 10:42:24 PM

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My prediction Slovakia will get 4 points in the next 2 matches, draw against Croatia and win against Azerbaijan
then they will see the results of the Hungary match because here the determination whether they qualify or not

My prediction is 3 points against Azerbaijan and 0 points vs Croatia. A draw isn't impossible but it will be very hard to achieve. I expect two goals difference at least for Croatia.

I don't deny your prediction because Croatia is better based on match statistics but Slovakia will be motivated in this important match so they can do anything unexpected
Yes, however we have to wait for this match next month

have a good statistics and playing in their own home is an advantage for Croatia. but anything can happen, especially now that their players have returned to their clubs. it could be injured when playing with their club and could not play for their country when they return to the Euro 2020 qualifiers next month

Yes, that's one reason there might still be some problems later on in the match, red cards, ban on playing, injuries and more.
Slovakia once defeated Hungary when playing away, this might happen again Wink

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Finally, Switzerland moved closer again to be able to qualify for the next round. With the win against Ireland, Switzerland brought the points that opened the opportunity for Switzerland to continue for the next phase
Switzerland, Denmark, Gibraltar still have 1 match left.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on October 17, 2019, 10:26:26 PM

Quote from: snipie on October 17, 2019, 10:14:54 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on October 17, 2019, 02:48:24 AM

My prediction Slovakia will get 4 points in the next 2 matches, draw against Croatia and win against Azerbaijan
then they will see the results of the Hungary match because here the determination whether they qualify or not

My prediction is 3 points against Azerbaijan and 0 points vs Croatia. A draw isn't impossible but it will be very hard to achieve. I expect two goals difference at least for Croatia.

I don't deny your prediction because Croatia is better based on match statistics but Slovakia will be motivated in this important match so they can do anything unexpected
Yes, however we have to wait for this match next month

have a good statistics and playing in their own home is an advantage for Croatia. but anything can happen, especially now that their players have returned to their clubs. it could be injured when playing with their club and could not play for their country when they return to the Euro 2020 qualifiers next month

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Quote from: snipie on October 17, 2019, 10:14:54 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on October 17, 2019, 02:48:24 AM

My prediction Slovakia will get 4 points in the next 2 matches, draw against Croatia and win against Azerbaijan
then they will see the results of the Hungary match because here the determination whether they qualify or not

My prediction is 3 points against Azerbaijan and 0 points vs Croatia. A draw isn't impossible but it will be very hard to achieve. I expect two goals difference at least for Croatia.

I don't deny your prediction because Croatia is better based on match statistics but Slovakia will be motivated in this important match so they can do anything unexpected
Yes, however we have to wait for this match next month

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 17, 2019, 11:28:10 AM

Croatia's qualification is pretty much done, they only need a win against Georgia which I think it is possible.
So a draw against Slovakia could be an option. However, I think that Croatia will try their best in the game against Slovakia in order to end the qualification scenarios earlier.

Croatia can easily win Georgia. But first we need move Georgia from group D to group E.
There is only one game left for Croatia which will be against Slovakia.

Four games are to be played.
The result of two matches is almost clear. Azerbaijan vs Wales and Slovakia vs Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan will lose both games.
So, Croatia: 14 pts, Slovakia: 13 pts, Hungary: 12 pts Wales: 11 pts.

Two other games:
November 16: Croatia vs Slovakia
November 19: Wales vs Hungary

I think Croatia will win Slovakia and wales will win Hungary.
So, Croatia and Wales will qualify for Euro 2020.

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Of course, I understand that each person has his own preferences regarding national football teams, as well as his own views on their results. But at the current European Football Championship, I really regret that I did not believe in the strength of my national team of Ukraine. I was really struck by the result of the match Ukraine-Portugal, where Ukraine chose the victory against the champion with a score of 2:1. Maybe I'll take a chance and bet on Victory in the next round.

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