⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! - page 61.

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Quote from: Maidak on July 02, 2021, 12:07:24 AM

You are right. This is due to the presence of extra star players in the squad. All players want to score for themselves. And wants to increase his self-esteem. Mbappe took a lot of useless shots. Moreover, the midfielders did not cooperate properly. The coach should have coordinated the players before arranging a good squad. Then maybe France could have won the title.

If you remember, the third goal by Switzerland in regulation time (which allowed them to equalize) resulted from a mistake from the part of Kylian Mbappé. As usual, he didn't passed the ball and one of the Switzerland players eventually managed to snatch the ball from him and launch a counterattack. Also, it surprised me that with a score of 3-2 then, France had hardly anyone focusing on the defense. Everyone wanted to score another goal and the Swiss players made use of this opportunity to equalize (and eventually managed to win on penalty shootout).

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Quote from: Maidak on July 02, 2021, 12:07:24 AM

You are right. This is due to the presence of extra star players in the squad. All players want to score for themselves. And wants to increase his self-esteem. Mbappe took a lot of useless shots. Moreover, the midfielders did not cooperate properly. The coach should have coordinated the players before arranging a good squad. Then maybe France could have won the title.

So a team filled with star players is not a guarantee to be able to win the match, the coach becomes central to being able to make the players have one vision and team victory is more important than personal records.

For the quarter-final match, is anyone interested in betting on the unfavorite team?
Only match between Belgium vs Italy the odds are not too different, while the other three matches are very visible which team is the favorite to win.

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Switzerland vs Spain and Belgium vs Italy for tonight.

These will be a very interesting matches to watch. I predict that Spain and Belgium will advance to the next round. They have a better squad, the starting eleven and the bench. Goal feast might happen in both matches.

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Spain should be with France in the Quarterfinals. I was just a little disappointed with Francis that they didn't focus on the last minute. There would be no penalty shootout if they didn't concede. But that didn't happen, in the next match I predict both of them are equally strong and it looks like it will end in a penalty shootout. De Gea must be prepared for it.

France doesn't deserve a slot in the QF. For sure they have some of the best players in the world, such as Paul Pogba, Kylian Mbappé and Presnel Kimpembe. But from the group matches, and PQF I could see hardly any coordination between them. Everyone wants to score for himself and was not keen on passing the ball around. And a few days back the mother of Adrien Rabiot clashed with the relatives of Mbappé and Pogba in public, accusing the players of selfishness. Having best players alone will not do the job. There needs to be team coordination as well.

You are right. This is due to the presence of extra star players in the squad. All players want to score for themselves. And wants to increase his self-esteem. Mbappe took a lot of useless shots. Moreover, the midfielders did not cooperate properly. The coach should have coordinated the players before arranging a good squad. Then maybe France could have won the title.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 01, 2021, 10:40:42 PM

France doesn't deserve a slot in the QF. For sure they have some of the best players in the world, such as Paul Pogba, Kylian Mbappé and Presnel Kimpembe. But from the group matches, and PQF I could see hardly any coordination between them. Everyone wants to score for himself and was not keen on passing the ball around. And a few days back the mother of Adrien Rabiot clashed with the relatives of Mbappé and Pogba in public, accusing the players of selfishness. Having best players alone will not do the job. There needs to be team coordination as well.

They played better than Switzerland in most of time but they deserve that loss because they don't have respect for Switzerland. If they have had a little respect for the opponent, they would have not ended that match with a draw in 90 minutes.

France are not an united squad and many stars in their squad try to be a hub of the team. Pogba then Mbappe. It is very toxic for the whole team.

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Quote from: mitchr4 on July 01, 2021, 09:07:23 PM

Spain should be with France in the Quarterfinals. I was just a little disappointed with Francis that they didn't focus on the last minute. There would be no penalty shootout if they didn't concede. But that didn't happen, in the next match I predict both of them are equally strong and it looks like it will end in a penalty shootout. De Gea must be prepared for it.

France doesn't deserve a slot in the QF. For sure they have some of the best players in the world, such as Paul Pogba, Kylian Mbappé and Presnel Kimpembe. But from the group matches, and PQF I could see hardly any coordination between them. Everyone wants to score for himself and was not keen on passing the ball around. And a few days back the mother of Adrien Rabiot clashed with the relatives of Mbappé and Pogba in public, accusing the players of selfishness. Having best players alone will not do the job. There needs to be team coordination as well.

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Quote from: Luzin on July 01, 2021, 06:58:41 PM

For Spain, I really like the game. I expect Spain to win over Switzerland. But I understand Switzerland is a great team. They can win, anything can happen before the game ends.

Spain is not the same as France who lost ridiculously, even though they made mistakes several times but they could still at least convince the football crowd that they deserved to be in the EURO Final.

In my opinion the match between Croatia vs Spain and France vs Switzerland as arranged (IMO), 2 matches on the same day and with the same goal scheme, it was really crazy.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 01, 2021, 06:38:37 PM

Indeed. Switzerland has a chance to defeat Spain.
Even if Spain is a big team, it cannot guarantee them to win. The result is determined by how they can perform in the field.

For Spain, I really like the game. I expect Spain to win over Switzerland. But I understand Switzerland is a great team. They can win, anything can happen before the game ends.

Spain should be with France in the Quarterfinals. I was just a little disappointed with Francis that they didn't focus on the last minute. There would be no penalty shootout if they didn't concede. But that didn't happen, in the next match I predict both of them are equally strong and it looks like it will end in a penalty shootout. De Gea must be prepared for it.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 01, 2021, 06:38:37 PM

How do you know France is the strongest team?
Although they have many top players, it doesn't mean France is the strongest.
Strong or not, it can be reflected in its performance. If France cannot perform well, they cannot be called the strongest team.

Yep I agree with you, the strongest today in the Euros is tomorrow who can bring trophies and champions. It's a competition, not strong in the skill of the player, where he plays, or his name. It will not apply if the country does not pass the strong predicate here will fade. Although there is luck but it will not apply, because absolute victory is sought. And the label of victory that describes the strength or weakness of the country.

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 01, 2021, 06:38:37 PM

Indeed. Switzerland has a chance to defeat Spain.
Even if Spain is a big team, it cannot guarantee them to win. The result is determined by how they can perform in the field.

For Spain, I really like the game. I expect Spain to win over Switzerland. But I understand Switzerland is a great team. They can win, anything can happen before the game ends.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on July 01, 2021, 12:45:47 AM

I don't want to argue again which team did not qualify for the semi-finals.

Why? It is okay to argue because everyone has their own point of view. If you have a different opinion, it is no problem. The result of the match won't be determined by our prediction, we only can guess it. So, if your prediction is wrong, it is no problem at all. We all know it is only a guess and we are not football experts.

Quote from: fuguebtc on July 01, 2021, 12:45:47 AM

France were the strongest team in the euro this season.

How do you know France is the strongest team?
Although they have many top players, it doesn't mean France is the strongest.
Strong or not, it can be reflected in its performance. If France cannot perform well, they cannot be called the strongest team.

Quote from: fuguebtc on July 01, 2021, 12:45:47 AM

Switzerland is in great form, my fear is that Spin might lose to Switzerland.

Indeed. Switzerland has a chance to defeat Spain.
Even if Spain is a big team, it cannot guarantee them to win. The result is determined by how they can perform in the field.

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It's a shame Germany lost, I didn't like England's game... They didn't play football and they didn't let Germany play! It was a classic England bus... I hope Ukraine can win them, although it's almost unreal... Grin

This is not disrespectful to Germany. England is not a weak team. Germany and England are teams of the same standard. However, Germany did not play well in the second half. They didn't have much chance to counter-attack after conceding a goal. We have seen lots of attacks and counter-attacks in Switzerland va France's match. But we didn’t see it in the match between Germany and England.

England are actually or were favourites to win the tournament and from looking
at the Sweden v Ukraine game last night England should come through that match.

Maybe we didn't see the same game, but England didn't play well against Germany. Germany played badly and England played mediocre. England has scored only four goals so far and three of them were scored by Sterling. That says a lot. For me England is not a favorite even if they have all the games at home at Wembley from the semifinals on. So far Italy, Spain and Czech Republic have convinced me the most.

We did see the same game and I agree the performances havent been wow, I'm just
going on what I hear here in the media.

I dont think its clear cut yet, Belgium as @AakZaki replied to my post mentioned and
Italy so far for me have a little more something about them. I like this actually,
even though I lost a lot on some of the Favourites, its nice to see the likes of the
Czech Republic, Ukraine and Switzerland in the final stages of the tournament.

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According to Di Marzio Chiellini will be available for the game and he will start from the beginning, even Chiesa!

Source: https://twitter.com/juvefcdotcom/status/1410710297736777733

If Belgium keep the ball Chiesa will break the game with his counterattacks.

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Quote from: iv4n on July 01, 2021, 08:03:46 AM

Belgium vs Italy. With looking at some stats, the first game is good for both teams to score and/or over 2.5 goals. But for the second game, I still don't have any clues for now...

I'm agree with your thoughts.
Close teams in terms of skill. both has 4 of 4 win matches, and both with close score count. I don't even know to whom I will bet personally Tongue

Maybe this match i'll miss because of too unobvious outcome.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 01, 2021, 03:35:49 PM

You are really contradicting your words Cheesy

Belgium and Italy are the two best teams in the tournament, so why is England the strongest team? In recent times, England have never been the strongest team, and neither are they now, so you are right, can't expect too much from England. With Spain, I still feel they are a better candidate than England.

It's not because in recent years England hasn't been a great team, which can't go far this year in the competition.
I for the first time in recent years see England capable of reaching the final.

It's because? Because, even though it doesn't have players considered big stars, it has good players and it's really playing as a team.
And I think that's what's making the difference in this championship, the teams that play as a team are having more success.

Besides thinking that the next big team to fall will be Spain.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 01, 2021, 03:16:20 PM

Belgium and Italy are I think the best two teams in the competition. I'd say the winner of this match is probably favourite to win the whole tournament.
The other side of the draw looks weak. England are perhaps the strongest there, but I don't think they're as good as Belgium, Italy or Spain... and I say that even though I want England to win.

You are really contradicting your words Cheesy

Belgium and Italy are the two best teams in the tournament, so why is England the strongest team? In recent times, England have never been the strongest team, and neither are they now, so you are right, can't expect too much from England. With Spain, I still feel they are a better candidate than England.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on July 01, 2021, 02:41:51 PM

+Belgium vs Italy:
I have tipped Belgium as one half of my duo to lift the trophy the other half is England, but tomorrow Belgium faces a Golden test in the form of Italy, they have been very commendable from there first game, I think it's Belgium biggest test and a win will catapult players and coaches spirit.

Belgium and Italy are I think the best two teams in the competition. I'd say the winner of this match is probably favourite to win the whole tournament.
The other side of the draw looks weak. England are perhaps the strongest there, but I don't think they're as good as Belgium, Italy or Spain... and I say that even though I want England to win.

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De Bruyne now is healed according to twitter and he will play since starts against Italy tomorrow evening.
This is the player who scares me the most and now he will be back.

I think the odds for Italy will decrease significantly with him in the pitch.

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Switzerland vs Spain
Belgium vs Italy

+Switzerland vs Spain:
I will never underrate Switzerland if I was Spain, their never lay backs on the ground spirit can leave shivers in any teams spine, Spain hasn't been undoubtedly exciting this competition so we have a whole open game between Switzerland vs Spain

+Belgium vs Italy:
I have tipped Belgium as one half of my duo to lift the trophy the other half is England, but tomorrow Belgium faces a Golden test in the form of Italy, they have been very commendable from there first game, I think it's Belgium biggest test and a win will catapult players and coaches spirit.

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It's a shame Germany lost, I didn't like England's game... They didn't play football and they didn't let Germany play! It was a classic England bus... I hope Ukraine can win them, although it's almost unreal... Grin

This is not disrespectful to Germany. England is not a weak team. Germany and England are teams of the same standard. However, Germany did not play well in the second half. They didn't have much chance to counter-attack after conceding a goal. We have seen lots of attacks and counter-attacks in Switzerland va France's match. But we didn’t see it in the match between Germany and England.

England are actually or were favourites to win the tournament and from looking
at the Sweden v Ukraine game last night England should come through that match.

Maybe we didn't see the same game, but England didn't play well against Germany. Germany played badly and England played mediocre. England has scored only four goals so far and three of them were scored by Sterling. That says a lot. For me England is not a favorite even if they have all the games at home at Wembley from the semifinals on. So far Italy, Spain and Czech Republic have convinced me the most.

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Are we writing off Switzerland against Spain? I personally feel that Spain haven't been impressive at all in this competition. While Switzerland might be performing above expectations right now, I believe they have some quality players, that can turn the tables against Spain.

Not completely writing off. I thought Spain's resolve after conceding two late goals was impressive.Their "growth" in this tournament is what I am counting on. There is no doubt that Switzerland have some quality players too and they know how to fight back. I just don't think they can repeat their performance against France.

Spain certainly improved during the group phase... but they so nearly threw away their chance in the last 16. That first knockout round had some weird matches and weird results, but no team really looks invincible at the moment. So I'd definitely agree that whilst Spain should be favourites, we certainly can't say that Switzerland have no chance.

Switzerland will definitely be playing tight against Spain for the mission to make history more than qualifying for the last 16 of the Euros and it will be a very interesting game to watch.
I must admit throughout the match, the Swiss game continued to improve, especially in a very disciplined defense and also managed to beat the great team of France, the 2018 world champions.
And during the Euros I didn't see Spain playing well and even boring and I can't wait to watch a game which is certainly very interesting.

With a very good game, I think Switzerland has a good chance to win against Spain. A draw is in any case after 90 minutes inside for Switzerland, in the offensive the Spanish were not really strong and compelling.

In Italy against Belgium, I see the game pretty even, but I think the Italians will get win on the end oft the day 😎

I think you all overestimate the quality of Switzerland because of the victory against France.
The fact is that the French team was in chaos and the players quarreled with each other, and Switzerland made great use of that.
Spain started weaker in the group stage but with each new game they play better and I think they are the favorites not only against the Swiss but the favorites of the whole tournament.
The match between Belgium and Italy will be very even and uncertain and extra time and maybe penalties are possible.

I don't think it's an exaggeration, especially just judging the development of defensive and attacking ways of playing which I think Switzerland have developed well over time.
and there is no guarantee the big or favorite team can play well even though there are many famous players in it and whatever the reason is if there is no discipline and cohesiveness in playing and I see Switzerland like that, I only judge the way they play doesn't mean I predict Switzerland will beat Spain it's just that the way they play will make it difficult for Spain to attack.
for the match between belgium and italy i think so too.

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