⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers - page 230.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on June 12, 2024, 05:58:02 PM

Quote from: Sunderland on June 12, 2024, 05:44:40 PM

The 3rd best team (if any) will face the winner of group A (Germany, Scotland, Hungary, Switzerland), while the winner of group F will face the 3rd A/B/C.

The third placed team of group F (if qualified to the knockout stage) will face the winner of group B or the winner of group C.
The winner of group A will face the the second placed team of group C.

Source: uefa.com

Yes, you are correct. I read that info from a local newspaper here, they must be got it from the wrong source - thanks for the correction.

Quote from: Lannakosa on June 13, 2024, 10:44:29 AM

The last match with Greece also did not add much optimism before the start of the EURO. Germany was barely able to snatch victory in the last minutes, and the game was without a big advantage for the hosts. Scotland and Switzerland are teams that are capable of playing very well, but Germany do not have the most difficult group, and considering that they will be playing at home this should add strength to them. So far, I don’t see that Negelsman was able to improve the team’s performance.

Although Germany performance is a bit doubtful due to poor results in friendly matches, they are the hosts and Germany is known as a specialist team in the tournament.
They were once nicknamed as Der Panzer because they looked weak at the start of the tournament but became a strong team as the tournament progressed, I still believe Germany can qualify for the final of Euro 2024.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on June 13, 2024, 10:44:29 AM

The last match with Greece also did not add much optimism before the start of the EURO. Germany was barely able to snatch victory in the last minutes, and the game was without a big advantage for the hosts. Scotland and Switzerland are teams that are capable of playing very well, but Germany do not have the most difficult group, and considering that they will be playing at home this should add strength to them. So far, I don’t see that Negelsman was able to improve the team’s performance.

Results from friendly matches are not good for Germany but if we think differently this way, friendly matches are opportunities to find your weakness to fix it rather than to show your strength against weak teams and fail to find your weakness.

Thinking like this, Germany actually got valuable lessons from their friendly matches and the rest part is whether they will be able to improve for the Euro. Time is not long from latest friendly matches to Euro and we will soon know how they improve (or don't improve) since their friendly matches. Germany is not a team to be underestimated in any big tournaments like Euro and World Cup. This Euro, they have big advantage as a host nation of the tournament.

Nagelsman is a young coach and in theory, he has trouble to work with star players but in big tournament, star players usually don't try to play bad just to kick Nagelsman out. News is the coach will leave after Euro and German national team will look for a new coach to replace him, so players have more reasons to serious fight for their chances of winning Euro title.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 13, 2024, 07:57:51 AM

Yeah Scotland can't be underestimated, although German is full of star players and they have better recent result than Scotland, but Scotland was having good result during EURO qualification, they're not lose against England, Spain and Norway.

On other hand, German sometime perform bad and not like what people were expect, it's definitely possible the match will ends up in a draw.

The last match with Greece also did not add much optimism before the start of the EURO. Germany was barely able to snatch victory in the last minutes, and the game was without a big advantage for the hosts. Scotland and Switzerland are teams that are capable of playing very well, but Germany do not have the most difficult group, and considering that they will be playing at home this should add strength to them. So far, I don’t see that Negelsman was able to improve the team’s performance.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on June 13, 2024, 09:51:43 AM

Quote from: Amphenomenon on June 13, 2024, 09:38:07 AM

Actually Portugal has little to worry here except from Czech Republic who had a really decent stat in their qualifying and throughout last year, aside them Portugal has little to worry after all Portugal are among the title favourites.

They already have the team to capable to match every other team they plays against and this time I think they are having a stronger winning mentality from the fact that Ronaldo came to this competition with a good record and not like what we experienced in the last nations tournament.

Portugal must be careful with both Czech Republic and Turkey which are two teams can create most difficulty for Portugal. Georgia can be considered as a weakest team in this group while two other teams actually have their own quality and can challenge Portugal. Both Czech and Turkey are no longer as strong as they were years ago but they still have some good players and can create surprise to Portugal in this group.

I am keen on scenario that Czech and Turkey will have to fight against each other for a second position in this group but Portugal must be careful with both competitors. Mistakes are hardly to fix at this level and many times we see big teams have to go home after group phase by one to two disappointed matches.

As a Turk, I hope Türkiye will make us happy by getting out of the group, but I must say that the group teams are very difficult. In the defense area, Çağlar Söyüncü and Ozan Kabak were injured and left out of the squad. These two defenders were very important for us. As a striker, Enes Ünal was injured and was left out of the squad. We are not in a position to force Portugal right now. I hope we can get out of the group by beating Czechia and Georgia.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on June 13, 2024, 09:38:07 AM

Actually Portugal has little to worry here except from Czech Republic who had a really decent stat in their qualifying and throughout last year, aside them Portugal has little to worry after all Portugal are among the title favourites.

They already have the team to capable to match every other team they plays against and this time I think they are having a stronger winning mentality from the fact that Ronaldo came to this competition with a good record and not like what we experienced in the last nations tournament.

On paper, no doubt Portugal and Czech will qualify for the next round.

But, Turkey was making people surprised during EURO qualification, they can beat Croatia and Wales, it was really crazy. Although, the recent performance from Turkey were really terrible, but I still give a chance for them.

Georgia has no hope, they only have Kvaratskhelia.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on June 13, 2024, 09:38:07 AM

Actually Portugal has little to worry here except from Czech Republic who had a really decent stat in their qualifying and throughout last year, aside them Portugal has little to worry after all Portugal are among the title favourites.

They already have the team to capable to match every other team they plays against and this time I think they are having a stronger winning mentality from the fact that Ronaldo came to this competition with a good record and not like what we experienced in the last nations tournament.

Portugal must be careful with both Czech Republic and Turkey which are two teams can create most difficulty for Portugal. Georgia can be considered as a weakest team in this group while two other teams actually have their own quality and can challenge Portugal. Both Czech and Turkey are no longer as strong as they were years ago but they still have some good players and can create surprise to Portugal in this group.

I am keen on scenario that Czech and Turkey will have to fight against each other for a second position in this group but Portugal must be careful with both competitors. Mistakes are hardly to fix at this level and many times we see big teams have to go home after group phase by one to two disappointed matches.

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For me Portugal is not in doubt because this team is sure to qualify in the group phase, while Turky and Czech I only predict it will belong to Turkey but we see how the two national teams play so far I only see Turkey's chances better than Czech.

Portugal is for sure a favorite in this group , but the Turkish and Czech team are also should be not underestimated.
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In yesterday's friendly match Ronaldo was still able to make a big contribution not forgetting to score two goals in the previous match, remember with the presence of Ronaldo it can be the motivation of the players even though he is old he inspires many people.

I have seen the review of that game about Portugal and yes i have to agree that Ronaldo had an big impact on that game.
Even he is an old man now as you have written just the presence of Ronaldo is a big motivation for all in there team.

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Group F teams

Turkey
Georgia
Portugal
Czech Republic

Looking at the current condition of the club and taking into account the strengths and players, Portugal's potential is very large now when compared to other teams.
Portugal is currently quite complex from players on every line because looking at some of the names brought for the euro this time the Portuguese players are really above average.

Defensively they have some great players who have been in high European competition like Dallot, Cancelo, Pepe or Mendes, in midfield they have some creative players like Vitinha, Bruno and of course Bernardo. For the attack they have Felix, Jota and Cristiano not to mention their young players who are currently in prime condition Leao who indeed sees from the depth of the current squad Portugal is really very good and terrible to see it's just that teamwork is clearly important and Portugal always has problems that make the players sometimes underestimated.

For the group stage I think Portugal will be very comfortable to qualify for the next phase but for other clubs there are also several

Actually Portugal has little to worry here except from Czech Republic who had a really decent stat in their qualifying and throughout last year, aside them Portugal has little to worry after all Portugal are among the title favourites.

They already have the team to capable to match every other team they plays against and this time I think they are having a stronger winning mentality from the fact that Ronaldo came to this competition with a good record and not like what we experienced in the last nations tournament.

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Quote from: mv1986 on June 13, 2024, 08:07:06 AM

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That's my point. Remember Iceland won against England at the European Championship 2016. Nothing is impossible and the times are over where the small football countries didn't have a single chance against the big football nations. I could recall countless of games where the big teams struggled until the very last moment, or where top teams that had a bad qualification played a good tournament or vice versa.

Yes, I still remember. In the Euro 2016 championship, Iceland's position was in second place in Group F, which made them qualify together with Hungary. At that time Portugal only ended Group F in third place.
Correct. In football, things that were initially thought to be impossible have become possible.

Quote from: mv1986 on June 13, 2024, 08:07:06 AM

It shows over and over again that these friendly games are literally worthless for anyone who believe to be able to draw conclusions from the results. You can't.

That's right. As long as I have been a football fan, friendly matches are not a reference for ensuring that a team will shine in a championship tournament like the Euros.

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Quote from: Hewlet on June 13, 2024, 02:24:20 AM

even if they don't win in the Euros, Portugal has a team collection that will serve as a serious threat to any opponent they will go against. Seeing christian Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandez on the same team, I would want to see how well they would be able to blend into the game and play together to strengthen there attack.

The media seems to be suggesting that the two weren't exchanging talks in good terms due to Ronaldo's explosive interview with Piers Morgan in which he criticised United and boss Erik ten Hag. We know how these media guys can make a big deal out of nothing and I just hope that Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandez will put thier total dedication and level of experience together and help thier national team to at least the Euro finals.

When it comes to playing on the same tea i don't think any professional player would want to carry grudges in the pitch. These players are professionals it doesn't matter what the media says, sometimes the media cook up stories in other to tease or make fans talk about them as they start, and the other reason is for that media or influencers to get famous. Bruno Fernades and Christiano Ronaldo are very strong combo in the attack against any opponent. But don't forget that to complete a team there has to be good midfielders and defenders and i think Portugal still have the juice in them. Perhaps you forgot Dalot and Pepe in the defense and the almighty Bernado Silva of Manchester City in the midfield. Wow! Indeed, we would watch a great action when they play and i can't wait.

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Quote from: yudi09 on June 13, 2024, 07:51:17 AM

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I would certainly call Spain a favorite in this tournament. Underdog would be a huge exaggeration if someone wants to not call them a favorite. It is like with some of the other teams that can gear up significantly when needed. Portugal is similar. Germany is quite a surprise team to me as I don't know whether they might much stronger than expected since this is a home cup for them.

Analyze what makes you call Spain the favorite in this tournament because I also feel that Spain can be the team that will win in Germany at Euro 2024 even though I am a fan of the England national team.
Maybe Spain and Germany deserve to be strong candidates apart from other strong teams such as France and Portugal.

Quote from: mv1986 on June 13, 2024, 07:06:03 AM

Italy same thing. They don't look very strong, but who thought they would win the Euro 2020? I am pretty sure not a lot of people expected them to go all the way to the final and win it. Same thing for the World Cup and France when everyone thought they are the sure winners.

Italy always surprises. After winning the Euros, they failed in other major tournaments. This time they could also surprise in the Euro tournament even though some want England to be the team that returns to the final.

That's my point. Remember Iceland won against England at the European Championship 2016. Nothing is impossible and the times are over where the small football countries didn't have a single chance against the big football nations. I could recall countless of games where the big teams struggled until the very last moment, or where top teams that had a bad qualification played a good tournament or vice versa.

It shows over and over again that these friendly games are literally worthless for anyone who believe to be able to draw conclusions from the results. You can't.

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Quote from: boltz on June 13, 2024, 07:33:51 AM

Just one day left until first match of Euro between Germany and Scotland and bookies are all over Germany in this game and so are the bettors are who shilling and betting on Germany big amounts of money so personally , I won't be surprised if this game ends up with a draw Grin

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Yeah Scotland can't be underestimated, although German is full of star players and they have better recent result than Scotland, but Scotland was having good result during EURO qualification, they're not lose against England, Spain and Norway.

On other hand, German sometime perform bad and not like what people were expect, it's definitely possible the match will ends up in a draw.

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Quote from: mv1986 on June 13, 2024, 07:06:03 AM

I would certainly call Spain a favorite in this tournament. Underdog would be a huge exaggeration if someone wants to not call them a favorite. It is like with some of the other teams that can gear up significantly when needed. Portugal is similar. Germany is quite a surprise team to me as I don't know whether they might much stronger than expected since this is a home cup for them.

Analyze what makes you call Spain the favorite in this tournament because I also feel that Spain can be the team that will win in Germany at Euro 2024 even though I am a fan of the England national team.
Maybe Spain and Germany deserve to be strong candidates apart from other strong teams such as France and Portugal.

Quote from: mv1986 on June 13, 2024, 07:06:03 AM

Italy same thing. They don't look very strong, but who thought they would win the Euro 2020? I am pretty sure not a lot of people expected them to go all the way to the final and win it. Same thing for the World Cup and France when everyone thought they are the sure winners.

Italy always surprises. After winning the Euros, they failed in other major tournaments. This time they could also surprise in the Euro tournament even though some want England to be the team that returns to the final.

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Quote from: Uruhara on June 12, 2024, 09:24:29 PM

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Group F teams

Turkey
Georgia
Portugal
Czech Republic

Portugal, which is in group F, may have the potential to qualify from group qualification. But not because this is a group filled with easy teams. Because there are Türkiye and the Czech Republic which are also quite strong. but indeed Portugal has a FIFA Rank above these three teams. Georgia is at the bottom of the FIFA rankings. But the quality of the national team may be different from their ranking in FIFA. So the results will remain difficult to predict.

But maybe we are all optimistic that Portugal will be able to qualify from this group stage. And actually I want to see Cristiano Ronaldo get sweet memories at Euro 2024. Because maybe this could be his last Euro with the Portuguese national team.

In terms of quality, Portugal should be able to qualify easily because the chances of Turkey, Georgia and the Czech Republic are not as big as Portugal's chances of almost 60%. In my opinion, this preliminary group will not be too much of a problem for Portugal, on the contrary, these 3 teams must be able to work harder.
Ronaldo still has quite a big influence and maybe this will also be his last EURO, he said he just needs to enjoy the remaining time he has. In essence, Ronaldo really made this year's EURO the biggest event and the end of his career. Apart from that, Bruno and Bernando Silva would be ideal to maintain balance. I admit that Bruno played quite a big role at this year's EURO.

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Just one day left until first match of Euro between Germany and Scotland and bookies are all over Germany in this game and so are the bettors are who shilling and betting on Germany big amounts of money so personally , I won't be surprised if this game ends up with a draw Grin

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Quote from: MAAManda on June 13, 2024, 03:55:16 AM

Look again at what I said before,mate. Let me be clear:

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For gamblers who dare to take risks, it's very unwise to go for a 1X2 bet & choose a team that's not the favorite, because the possibility of that happening is impossible (IMO)

It's clear that I say that it's not wise to choose a team that's not a favorite in 1X2 betting, because few match results are beyond expectations like what happened to Argentina in the previous WC event when they were defeated by Saudi Arabia. So make sure we are in safe side to win the bet.

I did look and what you said Wink

And quoted it. Like you're requoting. Not trying to pick a fight with you, friend, just edging into the banter but I have to insist, I'm not sure you understand what you're saying. This part below, quite literally, is wrong.

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the possibility of that happening is impossible

And your example of Saudi beating Argentina (21/1 odds)... proves your statement wrong (it's not impossible!). I think it's actually really unwise to bet on favourites with 1.02 odds of winning, as Argentina were in that game. That "safe side" bet means you have to win 50 such bets to offset 1 loss.

I'm fairly confident, if you placed 1 dollar on every game in this tournament, 50 cents on the favourite, and 50 cents on the underdog... you might be surprised that the safe side won't guarantee you wins. I'll actually start doing that now, for my own curious interest too Wink

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When I see our group with Portugal an Czechia, our Euro 2008 journey comes to my mind.

Back then, these two were in our group and the only difference was the remaining team.

We managed to beat Czechia with a dream comeback and qualified from the group thanks to that. The Czechia match is the last one once again so I wonder if a similar scenario will happen again... Tongue

It was many years ago of course. But I still believe in our players to do their best for a qualification. By the way those times we even reached the semi finals but I'm not that hopeful in Euro 2024 to tell the truth. I wouldn't say no to be surprised though.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 12, 2024, 03:05:21 PM

I have a fondness for underdog teams. It’s always exciting to see how underdog teams perform and whether they can replicate the fairy-tale runs of past teams like Denmark in 1992. Could you predict an underdog team for this tournament? Taking Denmark’s surprising victory in Euro 1992 as an example, it seems every Euro tournament has its dark horse. In this tournament, I believe Albania, despite being in the so-called ‘Group of Death’, could be the ideal underdog.

I think you could call Spain as one of the underdogs of the tourney right now. In the past one of the best national teams and probably in the period from 2008 to 2012 virtually unbeatable furia roja with Casillas, David Villa, Torres, Iniesta and Xavi in the lineup now seems to be a very problematic team. I think Luis Enrique's style did not suit the Spanish national team, which loves and knows how to play fast soccer with fierce counterattacks and combination play in the center of the field, when the opponents can not take the ball away.
Albania has no such experience as Spain and for them it will be a serious test, in addition, in the group with Albania got the strongest teams of Italy and Croatia, along with Spain, they will also fight hard to get out of the group and I think the 3rd place in the group will be a success for the Albanian team.

I would certainly call Spain a favorite in this tournament. Underdog would be a huge exaggeration if someone wants to not call them a favorite. It is like with some of the other teams that can gear up significantly when needed. Portugal is similar. Germany is quite a surprise team to me as I don't know whether they might much stronger than expected since this is a home cup for them.

Italy same thing. They don't look very strong, but who thought they would win the Euro 2020? I am pretty sure not a lot of people expected them to go all the way to the final and win it. Same thing for the World Cup and France when everyone thought they are the sure winners.

I am looking forward to some surprises and I bet that we will see draws in some games where it seemed to be clear who is going to be the winner.

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Quote from: Uruhara on June 12, 2024, 09:24:29 PM

Portugal, which is in group F, may have the potential to qualify from group qualification. But not because this is a group filled with easy teams. Because there are Türkiye and the Czech Republic which are also quite strong. but indeed Portugal has a FIFA Rank above these three teams. Georgia is at the bottom of the FIFA rankings. But the quality of the national team may be different from their ranking in FIFA. So the results will remain difficult to predict.

But maybe we are all optimistic that Portugal will be able to qualify from this group stage. And actually I want to see Cristiano Ronaldo get sweet memories at Euro 2024. Because maybe this could be his last Euro with the Portuguese national team.

For me Portugal is not in doubt because this team is sure to qualify in the group phase, while Turky and Czech I only predict it will belong to Turkey but we see how the two national teams play so far I only see Turkey's chances better than Czech.

In yesterday's friendly match Ronaldo was still able to make a big contribution not forgetting to score two goals in the previous match, remember with the presence of Ronaldo it can be the motivation of the players even though he is old he inspires many people.

I hope Ronaldo doesn't cry again like in the World Cup.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 12, 2024, 03:05:21 PM

I have a fondness for underdog teams. It’s always exciting to see how underdog teams perform and whether they can replicate the fairy-tale runs of past teams like Denmark in 1992. Could you predict an underdog team for this tournament? Taking Denmark’s surprising victory in Euro 1992 as an example, it seems every Euro tournament has its dark horse. In this tournament, I believe Albania, despite being in the so-called ‘Group of Death’, could be the ideal underdog.

I think you could call Spain as one of the underdogs of the tourney right now. In the past one of the best national teams and probably in the period from 2008 to 2012 virtually unbeatable furia roja with Casillas, David Villa, Torres, Iniesta and Xavi in the lineup now seems to be a very problematic team. I think Luis Enrique's style did not suit the Spanish national team, which loves and knows how to play fast soccer with fierce counterattacks and combination play in the center of the field, when the opponents can not take the ball away.
Albania has no such experience as Spain and for them it will be a serious test, in addition, in the group with Albania got the strongest teams of Italy and Croatia, along with Spain, they will also fight hard to get out of the group and I think the 3rd place in the group will be a success for the Albanian team.

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