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I left betting on national teams after the World Cup ended but Germany were one of the best playing teams in the World Cup. They just had issues with finishing and said farewell to the tourney in group stage unluckily. I see Germans as favourites of the tourney with their host country advantage as a result.
don't get fooled by the fact that the Euro will be played in Germany, if you think Germany can win it as a team, it's fine you do you, but because they are the host it doesn't mean anything, we saw what happened to Brazil in 2014 world cup, it's rare where a host wins the tournament, who i actually think can win it is England, they have some young talents that can get them the trophy and it's been a long time since they won something.

It seems to me that German national football has been in crisis for a long time. After the 2014 world title in Brazil, they did nothing in the world competitions and were eliminated twice in a row in the group stage of the world championship, which is no coincidence.
Honestly, regardless of the fact that they are the hosts of the next European Championship, I don't see them as favorites for the title.
At the European Championship, I expect the most from the French, England, Spain and Italy.


@Daniel91 Germany’s football used to be so great once upon a time, but now a day’s they play really bad but since it’s in their home country I sincerely hope that they will perform well at least for the sake of their citizens. However I don’t expect them to win it, because I expect France or England to win it because they have really good player’s who can help them win it.

I think that now Germany must make a mix of its best players, the oldest and the youngest, perhaps the youngsters are not afraid of the veterans and that is an advantage, but they do not have experience and in a game you need to have experience to deal with certain things, even with arbitration, so if veterans join the team, and youngsters, the team will have a better integration, it will be more complete as I had said before, let's just look at what Spain did in the World Cup, it took only youngsters And they still got kicked out, veterans are always needed in a team so they can do things better.


For me personally, it's actually a surprise to see the big decline of the German national team after the great games at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil when they became world champions.
I actually expected them to continue playing at the same level and be competitive still in all the major competitions after 2014, but that didn't happen.
Maybe they didn't do the generational change well? Is something else the problem? It's really hard to give a good answer.
German clubs are still good and achieve good results in European club competitions, but the national team has not been at the expected level for a long time.
As I said before, I don't think they will be favorites at the European Championship next year, but as the hosts they will still have an advantage that they can use.
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for me i wouldn't say that i'm surprised because i know the majority favor teams who play in their home land all the time, they even thought Qatar could do something in the World cup, but in reality and throughout the last few decades i've seen very few countries manage to win tournaments in their homeland to the point i decided to never favor a team like Germany this time i Euro, and i agree with you that France and England have a way better chance to win it than Germany.

I have a feeling that Germany is a dying team. And I agree with your argument that France and England have a better chance to win the tournament when compared to Germany. The Germans have performed pathetically during Euro 2021 and FIFA 2022. They are unable to find fresh talent and are heavily dependent on players who are in their 30s, such as Manuel Neuer, Thomas Müller and İlkay Gündoğan. They have some younger players like Lukas Nmecha, Karim Adeyemi and Youssoufa Moukoko. But these players are yet to prove their mettle at the international stage.
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I left betting on national teams after the World Cup ended but Germany were one of the best playing teams in the World Cup. They just had issues with finishing and said farewell to the tourney in group stage unluckily. I see Germans as favourites of the tourney with their host country advantage as a result.
don't get fooled by the fact that the Euro will be played in Germany, if you think Germany can win it as a team, it's fine you do you, but because they are the host it doesn't mean anything, we saw what happened to Brazil in 2014 world cup, it's rare where a host wins the tournament, who i actually think can win it is England, they have some young talents that can get them the trophy and it's been a long time since they won something.

It seems to me that German national football has been in crisis for a long time. After the 2014 world title in Brazil, they did nothing in the world competitions and were eliminated twice in a row in the group stage of the world championship, which is no coincidence.
Honestly, regardless of the fact that they are the hosts of the next European Championship, I don't see them as favorites for the title.
At the European Championship, I expect the most from the French, England, Spain and Italy.


@Daniel91 Germany’s football used to be so great once upon a time, but now a day’s they play really bad but since it’s in their home country I sincerely hope that they will perform well at least for the sake of their citizens. However I don’t expect them to win it, because I expect France or England to win it because they have really good player’s who can help them win it.

I think that now Germany must make a mix of its best players, the oldest and the youngest, perhaps the youngsters are not afraid of the veterans and that is an advantage, but they do not have experience and in a game you need to have experience to deal with certain things, even with arbitration, so if veterans join the team, and youngsters, the team will have a better integration, it will be more complete as I had said before, let's just look at what Spain did in the World Cup, it took only youngsters And they still got kicked out, veterans are always needed in a team so they can do things better.
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@babo I’m kinda surprised as to why do people yet feel that Germany is the favourite to win this tournament, because even with the home advantage I’m pretty sure that they’ll be eliminated early because they no longer play the fearless football liked they used to play in the past. Furthermore for me it’s either France or England that’ll be winning this tournament, because both have excellent squad of player’s who can help them win this tournament.
for me i wouldn't say that i'm surprised because i know the majority favor teams who play in their home land all the time, they even thought Qatar could do something in the World cup, but in reality and throughout the last few decades i've seen very few countries manage to win tournaments in their homeland to the point i decided to never favor a team like Germany this time i Euro, and i agree with you that France and England have a way better chance to win it than Germany.
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Yeah, but that's 4 out of 51 matches that was played in the whole competition. That's not much (less than 10%). And in the World Cup last year there were 64 games played and about 5 or 6 of them ended with big goal difference. That's OK too. And how do you expect that nations who are not that strong will end up against strong nations? There probably will be few surprises but most of the games will be a one way street where a one team will attack and the other will defend. Is that a game that you will enjoy watching?

If the percentage of one-sided matches in Qatar 2022 remained low at 10%, how can you assume that it will go up during North America 2026? You are just making an assumption that increasing the number of teams would automatically result in more number of one-sided matches. I don't agree with that assumption. What I have noticed from Qatar 2022 is that the gap between the top-10 teams and the remaining teams have narrowed. For every match that ended up as one-sided, there were three matches that can be considered as upsets. Teams such as Morocco and Cameroon made the world cup more interesting this time.
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What people should also not forget is that this tournament will be held in Germany. A considerable boost for German football, which has been underperforming in the national tournaments for years. World Cup 2018 and World Cup 2022 were already the end of the story for this team in the group stage. They are building a new team, possibly with great success already in the summer of 2024. They still have a lot of good players. I also have my doubts about the national coach. But does that mean Germany doesn't have to play matches to qualify? Isn't there a lot of competition rhythm missing then? They would have qualified for this tournament anyway, but then you have at least a few more matches. Or do they participate in the group and their results are not included in the final score?

I don't think that hosting the tournament is going to have a big impact on the performance of the national team. Recently Qatar hosted the 2022 FIFA World Cup and were handed out large defeats in each of their group matches. Germany is one of the top teams consisting of a large number of experienced players, and they are comfortable paying anywhere around the world. I am not denying the fact that they may get home advantage in 2024. Right now they need to rebuild their team, after the humiliating performance at FIFA 2022 (failed to qualify for the round of 16).

The only advantage that Germany will have in this UEFA Euro 2024 will be their fans because the tournament will be hosted in their country. But I don't think there will be any advantage for German football because it is already at high level. German Bundesliga belongs to the best five European football leagues. Besides, Germany already hosted FIFA World Cup in 2006 so they have experience in hosting tournaments like this.

I have many doubts about the Germany that we saw in Qatar, because they had a good team, what I did not like is that Tony Kross was not there and it was essential to do it, I think that Muller lacked more communication with his players, also I did not see action from Gotze, will they play the same level of players that they brought to Qatar? I'm very curious, German football is quite strong, they have many high caliber players and in the Budesliga you can see that they have an impressive level, I don't know if they will continue with the same coach, but they must do much better, because it is something that that country needs, plus Germany has a fairly strong and fast-paced football.
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Why do you think that Croatia was not impressive at the EURO, in contrast to its performance at the last 2 world cups?
In fact, at the last 2 EUROs, Croatia played at a very high level, both times they went to the knockout stage of the competition, and unfortunately lost in extra time to Portugal and Spain.
Should I remind you that in last year's League of Nations competition, Croatia won first place in its group ahead of France and Denmark, and in June they will participate in the final tournament of the League of Nations and have the opportunity to win their first trophy?
Croatia is high quality and strong enough to be one of the favorites in every competition  Grin


I think that he meant Croatia never advanced further than the first knockout game in the UEFA Euro competitions and they won three medals in the FIFA World Cup competitions. I dare to say that any team facing Croatia should not underestimate Croatia because we all saw what happened to Brazil a month ago.
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team

It amazes me how no one mentions Croatia when they are talking about favorites. I know that Croatia usually doesn't play great in UEFA Euro tournaments, but they finished last two FIFA World Cups in second and third place. They have few players that are suppose to leave the national team, but I think they could be considered as a hidden favorite.
Yes, we agree, Croatia deserves to be in the favorite team category, after struggling in the two world cup matches yesterday 2018 and also 2022 they performed amazingly, maybe in the previous EURO matches Croatia never looked impressive but saw some improvements in yesterday's world cup game and by the time 2018 it will look like they are going to make new history in the EURO match.

crowd interest is going to the EURO rather than the World Cup, given that tighter/stronger team battles and equal team strength make matches more exciting.

Why do you think that Croatia was not impressive at the EURO, in contrast to its performance at the last 2 world cups?
In fact, at the last 2 EUROs, Croatia played at a very high level, both times they went to the knockout stage of the competition, and unfortunately lost in extra time to Portugal and Spain.
Should I remind you that in last year's League of Nations competition, Croatia won first place in its group ahead of France and Denmark, and in June they will participate in the final tournament of the League of Nations and have the opportunity to win their first trophy?
Croatia is high quality and strong enough to be one of the favorites in every competition  Grin
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Here we go again..

Lets look back at the last edition of the Euro Cup. There were quite a few one-sided matches. A few examples are here:

Spain vs Slovakia (5-0)
Denmark vs Wales (4-0)
England vs Ukraine (4-0)
Denmark vs Russia (4-1)

One-sided matches can occur even when the top-10 teams play against each other. So it is not a valid reason not to increase the number of participants.


Yeah, but that's 4 out of 51 matches that was played in the whole competition. That's not much (less than 10%). And in the World Cup last year there were 64 games played and about 5 or 6 of them ended with big goal difference. That's OK too. And how do you expect that nations who are not that strong will end up against strong nations? There probably will be few surprises but most of the games will be a one way street where a one team will attack and the other will defend. Is that a game that you will enjoy watching?
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That is why I like UEFA Euro much better than the FIFA World Cup. The competition is much stronger and games are more equal than in the World Cup.

Here we go again..

Lets look back at the last edition of the Euro Cup. There were quite a few one-sided matches. A few examples are here:

Spain vs Slovakia (5-0)
Denmark vs Wales (4-0)
England vs Ukraine (4-0)
Denmark vs Russia (4-1)

One-sided matches can occur even when the top-10 teams play against each other. So it is not a valid reason not to increase the number of participants.
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I am not entirely sure if the troubles of Portugal national team is all about the manager. I get that it could be a bit related to him, but I believe that the team lost one of the greatest football players in the entire history of football and that could be a bigger reason. Normally Ronaldo was seen as either the best ever to play the game or second best at worst case, that is a serious situation and would be very difficult to cover when he gets older.

So, now that Ronaldo is at the near end of his career, that means you are not going to get that from him anymore and were they able to replace him with another star? No they haven't, which means it's normal for them to be not good anymore.
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team

It amazes me how no one mentions Croatia when they are talking about favorites. I know that Croatia usually doesn't play great in UEFA Euro tournaments, but they finished last two FIFA World Cups in second and third place. They have few players that are suppose to leave the national team, but I think they could be considered as a hidden favorite.
Yes, we agree, Croatia deserves to be in the favorite team category, after struggling in the two world cup matches yesterday 2018 and also 2022 they performed amazingly, maybe in the previous EURO matches Croatia never looked impressive but saw some improvements in yesterday's world cup game and by the time 2018 it will look like they are going to make new history in the EURO match.

crowd interest is going to the EURO rather than the World Cup, given that tighter/stronger team battles and equal team strength make matches more exciting.
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team

It amazes me how no one mentions Croatia when they are talking about favorites. I know that Croatia usually doesn't play great in UEFA Euro tournaments, but they finished last two FIFA World Cups in second and third place. They have few players that are suppose to leave the national team, but I think they could be considered as a hidden favorite.


Well even Spain and Portugal are not to be underestimated and I agree with you, Croatia can give you a hard time
but also Holland, let's not forget, who play quite well
and how can we not forget little Switzerland
there are many difficult teams to face, we were only talking about who is slightly favourites


@babo I’m kinda surprised as to why do people yet feel that Germany is the favourite to win this tournament, because even with the home advantage I’m pretty sure that they’ll be eliminated early because they no longer play the fearless football liked they used to play in the past. Furthermore for me it’s either France or England that’ll be winning this tournament, because both have excellent squad of player’s who can help them win this tournament.
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Well even Spain and Portugal are not to be underestimated and I agree with you, Croatia can give you a hard time
but also Holland, let's not forget, who play quite well
and how can we not forget little Switzerland
there are many difficult teams to face, we were only talking about who is slightly favourites


That is why I like UEFA Euro much better than the FIFA World Cup. The competition is much stronger and games are more equal than in the World Cup.
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team

It amazes me how no one mentions Croatia when they are talking about favorites. I know that Croatia usually doesn't play great in UEFA Euro tournaments, but they finished last two FIFA World Cups in second and third place. They have few players that are suppose to leave the national team, but I think they could be considered as a hidden favorite.


Well even Spain and Portugal are not to be underestimated and I agree with you, Croatia can give you a hard time
but also Holland, let's not forget, who play quite well
and how can we not forget little Switzerland
there are many difficult teams to face, we were only talking about who is slightly favourites
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team

It amazes me how no one mentions Croatia when they are talking about favorites. I know that Croatia usually doesn't play great in UEFA Euro tournaments, but they finished last two FIFA World Cups in second and third place. They have few players that are suppose to leave the national team, but I think they could be considered as a hidden favorite.
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Fernando Santos should have been kicked out earlier. If they had done that, then they would have performed better during Qatar 2022. But it is never too late. Roberto Martinez is a great replacement and he has more than one and half decade experience in managing teams at top level, including the Belgian national team, Wigan Athletic, Swansea City and Everton. Wigan won the FA cup for the first time in 2012-13, when Martinez was the manager. His tenure with Everton was not that bright though.
Roberto Martinez's best achievement was able to make Belgium rank 3rd FIFA World Cup 2018 Russia and last edition at Euro 2020 and FIFA World Cup 2022 seems not having best achievement. I don't think his reputation and achievement with Belgium as best replacement for Portugal national team after sacking current manager Fernando Santos.

Having advantage with Roberto Martinez becoming Portugal national team manager because possibility there are not Cristiano Ronaldo due he plays with Asian team, I don't know many Portugal manager seems not happy and have huge pressure with Cristiano Ronaldo in the team list. Portugal will play at first match UEFA Euro 2024 qualifier against with Liechtenstein national team and looking how capacity with Roberto Martinez for his first match.
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We could already speculate who the title favorites are. What is certain is that France is the absolute favorite. Followed by Germany, England, Italy. Then come countries such as Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and possibly Belgium. In Belgium it was known that a number of players are going to stop. I'm afraid you won't have much left of that world team from 2 years ago. Hazard will never be top again. De Bruijne can last a few more years. Germany has a huge advantage because all matches are played in Germany, but then they will have to play better. At the World Cup, they gave away the entire tournament against Japan in just 15 minutes. And they even trailed against Costa Rica. The glorious times seem to be over for this team that may be in need of rejuvenation/renewal.

I very much agree with you, France is the favourite
Germany plays well, but they don't have many people to put in the ball, if nobody scores a goal you don't win
Italy, let's leave it alone, it's been a broken team for years
they don't let young people who don't grow up play and therefore we have a broken team
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Fernando Santos is deserved to be sacked but what the hell happened with this decision. Martinez did his job bad enough with Belgium and now they chose him as their new coach. Portugal will waste this good player generation under Martinez management.

They have a good generation but a little bit worse than a golden one of Belgium which did not win any title with Martinez. How did they think he can help them to win Euro or World Cup?

I need to admit that I don't know much about Roberto Martinez, although I first heard about him more than a decade ago. But I still remember the improvement he brought to Wigan Athletic when he was the manager. I used to watch a few of the EPL matches back then, and Wigan made some big upsets. But then, his stints with Everton and Belgian national team didn't went well. Anyway, I would support anyone other than Fernando Santos, after what he did to Ronaldo during Qatar 2022. Let's see how it goes for the Portugal national team. Let' hope for the best.
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Fernando Santos should have been kicked out earlier. If they had done that, then they would have performed better during Qatar 2022. But it is never too late. Roberto Martinez is a great replacement and he has more than one and half decade experience in managing teams at top level, including the Belgian national team, Wigan Athletic, Swansea City and Everton. Wigan won the FA cup for the first time in 2012-13, when Martinez was the manager. His tenure with Everton was not that bright though. But then everyone has their own ups and downs.
Fernando Santos is deserved to be sacked but what the hell happened with this decision. Martinez did his job bad enough with Belgium and now they chose him as their new coach. Portugal will waste this good player generation under Martinez management.

They have a good generation but a little bit worse than a golden one of Belgium which did not win any title with Martinez. How did they think he can help them to win Euro or World Cup?

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BTW, I was expecting the retirement of Gareth Bale. He helped his team (Wales) to qualify for the world cup after many decades of waiting. Although their performance in the group stage was not up to the mark, the very fact that they managed to qualify is a big achievement.
Gareth Bale no longer had his big interest in football. It started in Real Madrid a few seasons ago and he focused more on golf. His retirement is not shocked at all and I was ready to receive his announcement in the past two years. If even in MLS, he could not have enough good fitness to play every week, he should retire.

To celebrate his retirement, we should give him a recognition that he is actually a big player who can change matches from Tottenham, Real Madrid to Wales and even in MLS too.
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