UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 381.

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I can hardly imagine that this United team is going to win the Europa League. Today they also lost to Aston Villa in the league. Maybe we've been overthinking United's last games. It wasn't very convincing, but at least it got a little better. Too bad they've had a small setback today. But every game is a game in itself. And of course we still have the draw tomorrow. You also need some luck. United are a team that can beat anyone in the league, but for me, Arsenal is the real favorite to win this tournament.

Manchester United is unlikely to be champions of the Europa League. I have never seen United's performances be so strong in the Europa League. United has struggled to win every Europa League match. We haven't seen a match dominated by United against weaker teams.
Moreover, there are strong teams like Barcelona and Arsenal in the Europa League. Compared to these two teams, I consider United to be weaker. United's main weakness is the underperformance of their attacking players. Also their match strategy is not stable. And so I would say either Barcelona or Arsenal has the most chances to win the Europa League title.

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I can hardly imagine that this United team is going to win the Europa League. Today they also lost to Aston Villa in the league. Maybe we've been overthinking United's last games. It wasn't very convincing, but at least it got a little better. Too bad they've had a small setback today. But every game is a game in itself. And of course we still have the draw tomorrow. You also need some luck. United are a team that can beat anyone in the league, but for me, Arsenal is the real favorite to win this tournament.

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I have also seen this in some media reporting on Alejandro Garnacho that there are some problems with his attitude but he is still young and deserves to be given a chance provided he also has to improve his attitude and be better in training.
He's a real player if we see potential, he's a pretty fast runner too so this could be a great asset. and for the attitude that Ten Hag seems to be able to fix this because let alone Garnacho when a goat isn't too disciplined and obeys Ten Hag's rules, he is quite strict with that.

A bad attitude during training is a problem that is easily corrected by any player who still wants to stay in the team he is in now and the coach must also give a little warning properly so that players can become aware to change that bad attitude for the better in the team. Since the team also needed talented young players and what went wrong it was up to the coach to sort it out gradually.

He is still very young so it is sometimes difficult to manage because his emotions are still quite large but it seems that with time he can still and is very able to improve his current discipline. and Ten Hag also seemed to give him confidence by giving him a place in the main squad in today's EPL match even though the results were disappointing because they had to lose.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 06, 2022, 02:53:52 PM

Ronaldo is Ronaldo, he will always be a great player even at age 40, the problem is not him being good or bad, the problem is him trying to be good in a way that would hurt the team. If you have Ronaldo scoring 11 goals but United being ranked 3rd by the end of the season, versus Ronaldo scoring 25 goals but United being 6th, which one would you pick?

Ronaldo could still play magnificently, but it won't be in a way that will help the team as much as it used to help, it would need to be a bit more selfish, because he can only score amazing goals, but he can't make everyone around him better. Which is why United still does perfectly when he doesn't play as well.

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the problem is him trying to be good in a way that would hurt the team

How can Ronaldo be good for himself but hurt the team?
Also, the number of goals is not the main priority for success, but how much the players can contribute to the team. Well, whether so far Ronaldo has contributed greatly to a team that is now in fifth place in the standings in the English Premier League, and can only be RunnerUp in the Europa League?
In fact, Ronaldo in the Europa League was given more chances to play, but with many chances created but Ronaldo only has two goals and two assists in the Europa League.

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Ronaldo could still play magnificently, but it won't be in a way that will help the team as much as it used to help,

I don't understand this concept, because playing great can at least have a good impact on the team. Although indeed, playing extraordinary is not only about always winning titles but at least being able to bring the team to a better position than before

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because he can only score amazing goals, but he can't make everyone around him better.

If scoring an easy goal is already difficult, then how can he score such an amazing goal? After all, if Ronaldo really can do his best, then automatically the people around him will be good too.

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I'm looking forward to watching Barcelona's performance here. Maybe it is very disappointing for their fans to witness their teams being eliminated in the Champions League this easy. But they would still wait for a success in the Europa League as well. Barcelona fans really miss to get titles.

In the Europa League, there aren't so many teams that can really eliminate them now. Of course there are challenging opponents such as Arsenal, Manchester United etc.. But if Barcelona manage to show the same performance as in the La Liga then they can be unstoppable anyway. Winning the La Liga and Europa League titles both should be their main targets from now on.

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Quote from: Alanaz on November 06, 2022, 01:37:56 PM

Quote from: rojan on November 05, 2022, 09:19:13 PM

If I talk about Cristiano Ronaldo, he is a very favorite player of mine. But I try to watch almost all of his games and if he loses the match, I will be more upset. If Cristiano Ronaldo tries to play well, then his It's possible, I think. But I've seen him play a little worse now than he did in a few games. But I think it doesn't matter. I think he will try to play well in the coming matches.

I'm not saying that Cristiano Ronaldo is playing badly overall, but again I'm saying he's had a dip in form. Like for example his speed has decreased, so maybe it's not a big problem because he is a center forward, it's different if he plays as a wing position. But still the decrease in his speed will affect his game. Like it or not, it happened to one of the world's stars.

I don't think Cristiano Ronaldo is important for Manchester United. Because Manchester United have much better players than Cristiano Ronaldo. Those who are in the best eleven will have better game results. Cristiano ronaldo should change his game strategy, it can improve his game quality.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 06, 2022, 11:44:58 AM

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Manchester United still not safe yet in Europe League because have waiting for drawing play off round which team have to beat can qualify to next round, irony when Manchester United can't scoring above two goals when beating Real Sociedad last match and have finished at 2rd standings. Loss goals points from Sociedad I don't think Manchester United one step ahead at Europe League because strength opponent on play off round have to face with team eliminated from champion league.

Juventus, Sevilla, Barcelona and Ajax seems will be strength opponent for Manchester United if have to play on play off round, I don't see have chance to win if have to face each team above.

Let's say Juventus and Barcelona are more or less strong teams and have an equal chance with United. But what is this nonsense about Ajax and Seville? There is only one name left from last year's Ajax and Sevilla is literally a team that is on the relegation from La Liga. How can United have no chance against Sevilla? You have some outdated data on the strength of teams.

It is very wrong to comment on team names. Manchester United are one of the strongest teams to win this trophy with Arsenal and Barça. Manchester United is a strong team that can also eliminate Sevilla and Ajax. The draws will be drawn tomorrow and the matches are a matter of curiosity. There may even be UCL-like matches. There are very strong teams that finished second in the group in UEL. There are strong teams coming from UCL. There will be fierce struggles.

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Ronaldo is Ronaldo, he will always be a great player even at age 40, the problem is not him being good or bad, the problem is him trying to be good in a way that would hurt the team. If you have Ronaldo scoring 11 goals but United being ranked 3rd by the end of the season, versus Ronaldo scoring 25 goals but United being 6th, which one would you pick?

Ronaldo could still play magnificently, but it won't be in a way that will help the team as much as it used to help, it would need to be a bit more selfish, because he can only score amazing goals, but he can't make everyone around him better. Which is why United still does perfectly when he doesn't play as well.

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Quote from: rojan on November 05, 2022, 09:19:13 PM

If I talk about Cristiano Ronaldo, he is a very favorite player of mine. But I try to watch almost all of his games and if he loses the match, I will be more upset. If Cristiano Ronaldo tries to play well, then his It's possible, I think. But I've seen him play a little worse now than he did in a few games. But I think it doesn't matter. I think he will try to play well in the coming matches.

I'm not saying that Cristiano Ronaldo is playing badly overall, but again I'm saying he's had a dip in form. Like for example his speed has decreased, so maybe it's not a big problem because he is a center forward, it's different if he plays as a wing position. But still the decrease in his speed will affect his game. Like it or not, it happened to one of the world's stars.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 06, 2022, 11:44:58 AM

Let's say Juventus and Barcelona are more or less strong teams and have an equal chance with United. But what is this nonsense about Ajax and Seville? There is only one name left from last year's Ajax and Sevilla is literally a team that is on the relegation from La Liga. How can United have no chance against Sevilla? You have some outdated data on the strength of teams.

It is difficult to say Ajax and Sevilla at the moment because if you look at the difference between them this season and last season, the comparison is quite far.
Losing a few key players in their squad due to being let go clearly makes them very different now especially perhaps for Sevilla's poor form.
Ajax itself at this time seems there will still be no hope. Haller, Martinez and Antony are a list of names who managed to get them to a good run last season and now that they're gone no one has really been able to fill the void in their current position.

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Quote from: Bobrox on November 06, 2022, 11:18:23 AM

Manchester United still not safe yet in Europe League because have waiting for drawing play off round which team have to beat can qualify to next round, irony when Manchester United can't scoring above two goals when beating Real Sociedad last match and have finished at 2rd standings. Loss goals points from Sociedad I don't think Manchester United one step ahead at Europe League because strength opponent on play off round have to face with team eliminated from champion league.

Juventus, Sevilla, Barcelona and Ajax seems will be strength opponent for Manchester United if have to play on play off round, I don't see have chance to win if have to face each team above.

Let's say Juventus and Barcelona are more or less strong teams and have an equal chance with United. But what is this nonsense about Ajax and Seville? There is only one name left from last year's Ajax and Sevilla is literally a team that is on the relegation from La Liga. How can United have no chance against Sevilla? You have some outdated data on the strength of teams.

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Manchester United still not safe yet in Europe League because have waiting for drawing play off round which team have to beat can qualify to next round, irony when Manchester United can't scoring above two goals when beating Real Sociedad last match and have finished at 2rd standings. Loss goals points from Sociedad I don't think Manchester United one step ahead at Europe League because strength opponent on play off round have to face with team eliminated from champion league.

Juventus, Sevilla, Barcelona and Ajax seems will be strength opponent for Manchester United if have to play on play off round, I don't see have chance to win if have to face each team above.

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Actually instead of saying Manchester United I prefer Arsenal's performance to representatives from England, they have really done really well this season, not only in the EPL but in the Europa League too they are quite stable because only one loss in the second meeting against PSV made them comfortable at the top.
Manchester United still have to play off now to make sure.

Arsenal consistent appearance has put him as one of the most superior Premier League teams in the Europa League. Arsenal performances have improved greatly this season, Arteta was able to lead Arsenal to the top of the Premier League standings and qualify for the last 16 of the Europa League as Group winners.

However, Arsenal impressive performance is no guarantee they can win the Europa League because this season there are so many strong teams that enliven this competition. Champions League third placed teams like Barcelona and Juventus will try their luck in the Europa League. Manchester United is slowly returning to its best form, Ten Hag has started to find the right formation to help Manchester United win the Europa League. Real Betis also cannot be underestimated, they can surprise with their best performances.

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Actually instead of saying Manchester United I prefer Arsenal's performance to representatives from England, they have really done really well this season, not only in the EPL but in the Europa League too they are quite stable because only one loss in the second meeting against PSV made them comfortable at the top.
Manchester United still have to play off now to make sure.

If we refer to what Arsenal have shown this season in every game, obviously Arsenal's probability is higher than Manchester United. in fact, previously United had to stumble at the beginning of the season and the beginning of this competition. their game pattern is really messy, but gradually the strategy scheme applied by Ten Hag starts to seem to work as it should, directed, the bonding between players looks even better so far.
it's just that the attackers they have lacked sharpness, as well as Ronaldo who didn't really contribute much in terms of scoring goals for his team.

Next, I am optimistic that Manchester United will be stronger and more consistent when playing their matches later. it's just that for now, the hope of winning this competition seems difficult for them. what's more now they have a playoff match against the team that got knocked out of the champions league.
Of course, this is a tough challenge for the Red Devils team as well as Erik Ten Hag.

It's a big challenge for Ten Hag in this case, especially seeing the condition of the team that is out of the Champions League at this time can be said to be quite difficult because it is filled by several big teams considering that Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax and several other clubs now definitely want to take part in Europa League especially in this case Barcelona.
Ten Hag at the moment for his first season is good enough but to be consistent he still needs time to remember like you said. Manchester United is still very messy even though it is starting to improve when compared to last season.

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This season's UEFA Europa League has been very interesting, with a lot of big teams going down to the Europa League like Barcelona and Juventus which will be even more interesting for us to watch, and it looks like Barcelona will prove that they can still win even if it's only in the European leagues, but English teams don't. . want to. lose prestige, especially Manchester United who are hungry for a title that they haven't won in recent seasons, and the dream Europa League final Barcelona VS Mu this season will be a final that we should look forward to.

Actually instead of saying Manchester United I prefer Arsenal's performance to representatives from England, they have really done really well this season, not only in the EPL but in the Europa League too they are quite stable because only one loss in the second meeting against PSV made them comfortable at the top.
Manchester United still have to play off now to make sure.

If we refer to what Arsenal have shown this season in every game, obviously Arsenal's probability is higher than Manchester United. in fact, previously United had to stumble at the beginning of the season and the beginning of this competition. their game pattern is really messy, but gradually the strategy scheme applied by Ten Hag starts to seem to work as it should, directed, the bonding between players looks even better so far.
it's just that the attackers they have lacked sharpness, as well as Ronaldo who didn't really contribute much in terms of scoring goals for his team.

Next, I am optimistic that Manchester United will be stronger and more consistent when playing their matches later. it's just that for now, the hope of winning this competition seems difficult for them. what's more now they have a playoff match against the team that got knocked out of the champions league.
Of course, this is a tough challenge for the Red Devils team as well as Erik Ten Hag.

You are right Manchester United are stronger than ever. Their coach taught them how to win a losing match. They have all learned to fight now and all the players in the team have performed much better than before. I hope that if they work hard like this, they will achieve good things in the future.

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Manchester United had better fight for the Europa League title. Because it looks like the top 4 challenge in the English Premier League will be even tougher this season. They might have another difficult season to enter top 4 as their performance level hasn't been very impressive lately. They just don't get comfortable wins these days in their league.

The Red Devils are already the third biggest favourite team for the Europa League according to the thinking of bookmakers. The first two are Arsenal and Barcelona obviously. Seeing Ronaldo in the Europa League is nice too. I would like to see him making as big impact as possible on his team's success here. As he is very likely to leave the team he can at least leave with good memories. There is a possibility for him to leave in January too though but let's see.

If you want Cristiano Ronaldo to want to give him good memories before he leaves (perhaps) in the next transfer window, then he should be given plenty of opportunities to play, and that's entirely the coach's decision. Actually Cristiano Ronaldo has given good memories at the beginning of joining Manchester United in the golden age of this team of course. But his arrival last season was a bit different because Manchester United were also in bad shape and also now he is not young anymore which cannot be denied that his performance has decreased.

If I talk about Cristiano Ronaldo, he is a very favorite player of mine. But I try to watch almost all of his games and if he loses the match, I will be more upset. If Cristiano Ronaldo tries to play well, then his It's possible, I think. But I've seen him play a little worse now than he did in a few games. But I think it doesn't matter. I think he will try to play well in the coming matches.

I think cristiano ronaldo will never get back to his previous form. Because when age becomes a barrier, one fails to show skills. Cristiano Ronaldo is trying to do better every day but his age is holding him back. Good luck to Ronaldo.

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Honestly I still see Arsenal as the biggest favourite.

They have already proven how serious they are by their effort in the group stage. They don't just care about the Premier League title now. They are caring about the Europa League quite much as well. No matter how many strong teams coming from the Champions League, Arsenal are still the biggest favourite in my opinion. By the way, bookmakers are also thinking the same actually. However they have the same odd with Barcelona for the title which is 5.00. A finale like Barcelona - Arsenal would be really lovely.

I hope that will come true but i think that bookmakers may make another wrong choice. I don't even think that barcelona will be winning this title easily. The same thing may happen like last year when freiburg has destroyed a chance for barcelong to be a champion in europa league. The same scenario may come again for barcelona and this time the teams that compete in the europa league have become even stronger than before.
It can be seen from so many big teams from various league competing each other. bookmakers may think barcelona is the most potential team to win along with arsenal but the fact may sometime different with their prediction.

There is no doubt that Arsenal is one of the favourites to win the Europa League but I do not see them as the biggest favourite because in Europa League there is a club like Manchester United and there is also Barcelona FC. With these two big names I cannot say that Arsenal is the biggest favourite but I can acknowledge that they are one of the favourites to win the Europa League

You are right but I am not putting Barcelona ahead of Arsenal. I see Arsenal's performance more than Barcelona but Barcelona are doing much better in La Liga. Apart from La Liga, the performance in all other tournaments is not up to expectations. Manchester United can be called favorites as they are improving their squad every day now.

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Quote from: makishart on November 06, 2022, 03:08:09 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on November 04, 2022, 04:52:25 PM

Honestly I still see Arsenal as the biggest favourite.

They have already proven how serious they are by their effort in the group stage. They don't just care about the Premier League title now. They are caring about the Europa League quite much as well. No matter how many strong teams coming from the Champions League, Arsenal are still the biggest favourite in my opinion. By the way, bookmakers are also thinking the same actually. However they have the same odd with Barcelona for the title which is 5.00. A finale like Barcelona - Arsenal would be really lovely.

I hope that will come true but i think that bookmakers may make another wrong choice. I don't even think that barcelona will be winning this title easily. The same thing may happen like last year when freiburg has destroyed a chance for barcelong to be a champion in europa league. The same scenario may come again for barcelona and this time the teams that compete in the europa league have become even stronger than before.
It can be seen from so many big teams from various league competing each other. bookmakers may think barcelona is the most potential team to win along with arsenal but the fact may sometime different with their prediction.

There is no doubt that Arsenal is one of the favourites to win the Europa League but I do not see them as the biggest favourite because in Europa League there is a club like Manchester United and there is also Barcelona FC. With these two big names I cannot say that Arsenal is the biggest favourite but I can acknowledge that they are one of the favourites to win the Europa League

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Quote from: terrorJR on November 05, 2022, 03:29:50 PM

Quote from: budi691 on November 05, 2022, 10:58:58 AM

This season's UEFA Europa League has been very interesting, with a lot of big teams going down to the Europa League like Barcelona and Juventus which will be even more interesting for us to watch, and it looks like Barcelona will prove that they can still win even if it's only in the European leagues, but English teams don't. . want to. lose prestige, especially Manchester United who are hungry for a title that they haven't won in recent seasons, and the dream Europa League final Barcelona VS Mu this season will be a final that we should look forward to.

Actually instead of saying Manchester United I prefer Arsenal's performance to representatives from England, they have really done really well this season, not only in the EPL but in the Europa League too they are quite stable because only one loss in the second meeting against PSV made them comfortable at the top.
Manchester United still have to play off now to make sure.

If we refer to what Arsenal have shown this season in every game, obviously Arsenal's probability is higher than Manchester United. in fact, previously United had to stumble at the beginning of the season and the beginning of this competition. their game pattern is really messy, but gradually the strategy scheme applied by Ten Hag starts to seem to work as it should, directed, the bonding between players looks even better so far.
it's just that the attackers they have lacked sharpness, as well as Ronaldo who didn't really contribute much in terms of scoring goals for his team.

Next, I am optimistic that Manchester United will be stronger and more consistent when playing their matches later. it's just that for now, the hope of winning this competition seems difficult for them. what's more now they have a playoff match against the team that got knocked out of the champions league.
Of course, this is a tough challenge for the Red Devils team as well as Erik Ten Hag.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 04, 2022, 04:52:25 PM

Honestly I still see Arsenal as the biggest favourite.

They have already proven how serious they are by their effort in the group stage. They don't just care about the Premier League title now. They are caring about the Europa League quite much as well. No matter how many strong teams coming from the Champions League, Arsenal are still the biggest favourite in my opinion. By the way, bookmakers are also thinking the same actually. However they have the same odd with Barcelona for the title which is 5.00. A finale like Barcelona - Arsenal would be really lovely.

I hope that will come true but i think that bookmakers may make another wrong choice. I don't even think that barcelona will be winning this title easily. The same thing may happen like last year when freiburg has destroyed a chance for barcelong to be a champion in europa league. The same scenario may come again for barcelona and this time the teams that compete in the europa league have become even stronger than before.
It can be seen from so many big teams from various league competing each other. bookmakers may think barcelona is the most potential team to win along with arsenal but the fact may sometime different with their prediction.

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