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Quote from: Roseline492 on November 28, 2023, 08:55:40 AM

Is very obvious that Liverpool will win this season Europa League because they have all it takes to win it but however if you check very well you will see that there players are more experience and so much in a good shape this season, so considering there performance there is every tendency that Liverpool may likely become the champion of Europa this season.

But the problem is consistency if they could be able to maintain there current performance because if they failed Toulouse will take over there position because Toulouse has actually been performing very good this season Europa.

Of course, in group E both teams showed quite impressive performances, but many observers predicted that the final result in group E would be Liverpool occupying that group position. Of course Toulouse will be in second place, in early December the two teams will play the match Toulouse vs Union Saint-Gilloise, Liverpool vs LASK Linz of course Toulouse and Liverpool will easily get full points later. It is still too early to predict who will be champions this season, there are still many strong teams such as Leverkusen, Marseille, Atlanta etc. Bayer Leverkusen were unbeaten until the 4th match, this is the strongest potential opponent this season.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 28, 2023, 12:32:31 PM

Liverpool has got very experienced players who have experience with the Europa and other leagues aswell but then it's not a guarantee, it's not certainty that they are going to win the Europa, there are other team who has been so experienced and still lost in league games.

We all anticipate Liverpool winning the Europa this season as they as well have that as their target but then there's still much time to be so certain about their wins, as usual they may drop form along the line and many other factors could contribute to their performance but overall on paper Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa but other teams shouldn't be underestimated especially this who will be joining from the champions league.

Most of us know why we have that strong believe that Liverpool will win the Europa league and this is because they are among the big teams, which when they are consistent they continue progressively and this is what we are seeing in them, the team and coach is determined to win this trophy and they will win it. It will be hard for any opposition team to defeat them even from the ones coming from Champions league

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Quote from: Roseline492 on November 28, 2023, 08:55:40 AM

Is very obvious that Liverpool will win this season Europa League because they have all it takes to win it but however if you check very well you will see that there players are more experience and so much in a good shape this season, so considering there performance there is every tendency that Liverpool may likely become the champion of Europa this season.

But the problem is consistency if they could be able to maintain there current performance because if they failed Toulouse will take over there position because Toulouse has actually been performing very good this season Europa.

Liverpool has got very experienced players who have experience with the Europa and other leagues aswell but then it's not a guarantee, it's not certainty that they are going to win the Europa, there are other team who has been so experienced and still lost in league games.

We all anticipate Liverpool winning the Europa this season as they as well have that as their target but then there's still much time to be so certain about their wins, as usual they may drop form along the line and many other factors could contribute to their performance but overall on paper Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa but other teams shouldn't be underestimated especially this who will be joining from the champions league.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 28, 2023, 04:39:00 AM

Quote from: Weawant on November 26, 2023, 11:21:06 PM

Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa this season due to their performance so far in the Europa and their domestic league aswell, considering that they look like almost the only biggest team so far in the Europa this season except for a few team.

Tipping Liverpool to be the likely favourite to win the Europa competition isn't bad considering their awesome performance so far in the competition but you need to understand that there are still strong contenders like Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. These clubs are very consistent in the competition and they have experienced coaches that can be able to help the club advance their game to the next level.

Roma level is still below Liverpool and Leverkusen, I have a little doubt that Roma will be able to compete with Liverpool even if they are handled by Jose Mourinho. Liverpool managed to improve their performance this season, their continuously improving performance has made Jurgen Klopp team placed as favorites in the Europa League. Leverkusen also needs to be taken into account, they have learned a lot after last season's failure, Xabi Alonso, who is Leverkusen's driving force, will try to make up for last season's failure to win the title this season.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 28, 2023, 09:45:03 AM

Quote from: Roseline492 on November 28, 2023, 08:55:40 AM

Is very obvious that Liverpool will win this season Europa League because they have all it takes to win it but however if you check very well you will see that there players are more experience and so much in a good shape this season, so considering there performance there is every tendency that Liverpool may likely become the champion of Europa this season.

Liverpool isn't even has better result than Atalanta and Leverkusen, how you can pretty sure they will become a champion? When the team is playing in Premier League and richer than other team, it doesn't mean they're always better than other team.

Arsenal should've collect many trophies in this league if we judge based on the group stage performance.

Basically Liverpool are only entering as a title candidate team, and this is still not completely certain to happen . But ya, if you fully believe Liverpool will win the title this season, then I think that's also not a problem because with that, maybe make you will confidently to bet on Liverpool to win the Europa League title this season. But for me personally, at least I'm still waiting to see how great Bayer Leverkusen this season . Because ya, I think Bayer Leverkusen at this moment is more impressive compared to Liverpool and maybe other teams too. Therefore, I still expect Bayer Leverkusen to win the title this season here in the Europa League compared to Liverpool.

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I was thinking the same about Sevilla, but they cant find their form this season, and start to see very complicated to them to reach not only the round of 16 but also the third spot to go into Europa League, they need to wake up asap.

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Quote from: Bobrox on November 28, 2023, 09:31:51 AM

Many top teams on UEFA Champion League have potential will drop to Europe League such as Manchester United, Benfica, Milan, Newcastle United but I doubt with the last winner Sevilla has chance. Current standings, Sevilla dropped on 4th place remaining three points left from Lens with two matches left. Champion League match few hours later have potential to know which one team will play on Europe League after finishing on 3rd standings, actually Sevilla is most interested teams will get chance play on Europe League and become favorite team become the winner.

All focus with Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen are both favorite teams for winning Europe League, however both team good performed between domestic league and current top standing in Europe league. If can choose one I think Bayern Leverkusen is more favorable than Liverpool ever failed with Europe League after defeating by Sevilla on the final.

I'm sure that Sevilla has the strength that will be used at the last moment to get them to 3rd place in the UCL standings to enter the Europa League, for some reason I'm a little suspicious that the Sevilla team seems to have deliberately given up on the UCL to be able to enter the Europa League because they are only in the Europa League Sevilla can compete fiercely and they have even been called the kings of the Europa League in the last few seasons.

Obviously, for now it is still very difficult for us to predict who will be able to win the Europa League, there are several teams from the UCL that will win so that will certainly make the competition even fiercer.
And I really don't agree if Liverpool and Leverkusen are too praised and favored now, this is the Europa League, a competition that is competitive and often sees surprises so I really never thought Liverpool and Leverkusen had a high percentage of winning the Europa League this season.

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Quote from: klidex on November 28, 2023, 06:15:20 AM

for the time being, the difference in points in the Premier League indeed to be only a thin difference, not only the Premier League but like the French League 1, Bundesliga, La League Spanish in the top 5 also have a thin difference in points.
in my opinion Liverpool strength in the Premier League this season is different Liverpool appeared more impressive this season and is ranked 3rd behind Manchester City, isn't that a good result?? It is not easy to advance to the top of the Premier League as it is now because last season Liverpool was below Manchester United and Newcastle, but now both clubs are below Liverpool, which means Liverpool has improved this season.
and in the European league Liverpool also performed well and have only suffered 1 defeat and it is certain that Liverpool will enter the next round and we will see Kloop do his job in bringing Liverpool to an amazing performance in two competitions. If Kloop can bring Liverpool to the title this season, of course many will appreciate it and Kloop will stay longer to becomed Liverpool coach in the future.

Liverpool this season has shown tremendous growth and improvement and credits must be given to the entire team, this is a team that didn’t do much of a spending in the transfer market. I think Jurgen Klopp is doing what he knows how to do best with every single game; see it as a final and get all points at least settle for a draw and we must commend him for that.

When you look at them in the League, you see a wide difference of where they’re now and where they were last season and they are also flourishing in Europe and that’s one thing that the fans are loving and enjoying, having confidence your team will deliver anyday; anytime is one joy some top clubs are missing in Europe, and Liverpool fans should be happy that their team has improved better than the previous season and have a very high chance of finishing in the top four.

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Quote from: Roseline492 on November 28, 2023, 08:55:40 AM

Is very obvious that Liverpool will win this season Europa League because they have all it takes to win it but however if you check very well you will see that there players are more experience and so much in a good shape this season, so considering there performance there is every tendency that Liverpool may likely become the champion of Europa this season.

Liverpool isn't even has better result than Atalanta and Leverkusen, how you can pretty sure they will become a champion? When the team is playing in Premier League and richer than other team, it doesn't mean they're always better than other team.

Arsenal should've collect many trophies in this league if we judge based on the group stage performance.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 28, 2023, 08:47:16 AM

Indeed, with the addition of new participants, the results of the Champions League moving down to the European League will make the competition even more heated. Manchester United and Sevilla are likely to be in the last 16 of the European League and I have no doubts about that. However, I think Manchester United will not be as great as we think, while Sevilla may be their natural habitat to be able to win the title again. I feel that these big teams will fight each other to advance to the higher rounds, but my focus on Leverkusen and Liverpool will never disappear and I hope that both of them can advance with certainty to the final round.

Many top teams on UEFA Champion League have potential will drop to Europe League such as Manchester United, Benfica, Milan, Newcastle United but I doubt with the last winner Sevilla has chance. Current standings, Sevilla dropped on 4th place remaining three points left from Lens with two matches left. Champion League match few hours later have potential to know which one team will play on Europe League after finishing on 3rd standings, actually Sevilla is most interested teams will get chance play on Europe League and become favorite team become the winner.

All focus with Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen are both favorite teams for winning Europe League, however both team good performed between domestic league and current top standing in Europe league. If can choose one I think Bayern Leverkusen is more favorable than Liverpool ever failed with Europe League after defeating by Sevilla on the final.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 28, 2023, 01:28:05 AM

Quote from: Volgastallion on November 27, 2023, 12:20:07 PM

I repeat again , dont overanalyze the games from group stages, in this kind of tournaments, the big or stronger teams, play them at 80% of his real power, so what we are seeing its not the real play.

In the round of 16 or in the H2H we start to see the real games, and we can start to analyze something, and take real information.

I understand that currently strong teams only use a few percent of their strength but I think the group stage still plays an important role in the results of the next round and whether it's the top 16, quarter finals, semifinals or final, everything is interrelated. Maybe there will be something surprising in the round of 16, I think it will be quite surprising and maybe there will also be easy steps because from the start the team was at a different level. Let's take the example of teams like Liverpool and Leverkusen, who are the strongest teams at the moment and both are very appropriate to get the ideal European league final later. However, other teams such as Roma, who were also in the European League final last season, also need to be paid attention to. Apart from that, I don't think there are any other threats that could change the results unless the team is unlucky.

Even the strong club needs also to make sure they were at the safe position to be qualified for the knockout stage. The strong club was sometimes using the secondary squad like what liverpool did to the toulouse after it was at the safe position.
In fact, the bettors will always try to do their best to pick the right winner in the match. People are always concentrating to the liverpool and leverkusen. Meanwhile, roma was silently climbing up again after it has got very bad result in serie a.
Roma is now being placed at the 5th position of serie and it has been qualified for the next stage. I think that roma shall be counted as a strong team to win europa league this season.
Mourinho is willing to pay its mistake last season against sevilla in the final of europa league. Having lukaku in the club made it even stronger. Roma has got its rythm again after it was plunged so hard during the early season.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 28, 2023, 04:39:00 AM

Quote from: Weawant on November 26, 2023, 11:21:06 PM

Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa this season due to their performance so far in the Europa and their domestic league aswell, considering that they look like almost the only biggest team so far in the Europa this season except for a few team.

Tipping Liverpool to be the likely favourite to win the Europa competition isn't bad considering their awesome performance so far in the competition but you need to understand that there are still strong contenders like Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. These clubs are very consistent in the competition and they have experienced coaches that can be able to help the club advance their game to the next level.

Basically Liverpool is a big team and also, Liverpool has good quality which is certainly above average . So ya, no wonder if Liverpool are strong candidates to get the Europa League trophy this season. But even so, it looks like there will still be tough competition in the knockout phase later and ya, in my view even though Liverpool are favored. But of course there is no definite guarantee for Liverpool to reach the final match easily, because sometimes maybe with injured players it will also have an adverse impact on the team's performance . But ya, if Liverpool manage to keep the key players to stay fine, then the factor can be a pretty good guarantee for Liverpool to smoothly advance to the final match.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 28, 2023, 04:39:00 AM

Tipping Liverpool to be the likely favourite to win the Europa competition isn't bad considering their awesome performance so far in the competition but you need to understand that there are still strong contenders like Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. These clubs are very consistent in the competition and they have experienced coaches that can be able to help the club advance their game to the next level.

Is very obvious that Liverpool will win this season Europa League because they have all it takes to win it but however if you check very well you will see that there players are more experience and so much in a good shape this season, so considering there performance there is every tendency that Liverpool may likely become the champion of Europa this season.

But the problem is consistency if they could be able to maintain there current performance because if they failed Toulouse will take over there position because Toulouse has actually been performing very good this season Europa.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 28, 2023, 01:28:05 AM

I understand that currently strong teams only use a few percent of their strength but I think the group stage still plays an important role in the results of the next round and whether it's the top 16, quarter finals, semifinals or final, everything is interrelated. Maybe there will be something surprising in the round of 16, I think it will be quite surprising and maybe there will also be easy steps because from the start the team was at a different level. Let's take the example of teams like Liverpool and Leverkusen, who are the strongest teams at the moment and both are very appropriate to get the ideal European league final later. However, other teams such as Roma, who were also in the European League final last season, also need to be paid attention to. Apart from that, I don't think there are any other threats that could change the results unless the team is unlucky.

I will actually be more curious about waiting for which teams from the Champions League will play in the playoffs for the top 16 in this European league, in my opinion, it is quite important because these teams will be strong competitors for the current favorite teams such as Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool and AS Roma.
There is a chance that Manchester United will be eliminated from the Champions League and is also one of the teams in Group F which can be said to be quite strong regardless of which team from that group will compete here, and maybe Sevilla will return to playing in the European League because they still have that opportunity.
In the knockout phase, it will begin to be seen which team has the greatest chance of becoming champion, although in my opinion, the current favorite team will still have the greatest chance of continuing to advance to the next round.

Indeed, with the addition of new participants, the results of the Champions League moving down to the European League will make the competition even more heated. Manchester United and Sevilla are likely to be in the last 16 of the European League and I have no doubts about that. However, I think Manchester United will not be as great as we think, while Sevilla may be their natural habitat to be able to win the title again. I feel that these big teams will fight each other to advance to the higher rounds, but my focus on Leverkusen and Liverpool will never disappear and I hope that both of them can advance with certainty to the final round.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 27, 2023, 12:20:07 PM

I repeat again , dont overanalyze the games from group stages, in this kind of tournaments, the big or stronger teams, play them at 80% of his real power, so what we are seeing its not the real play.

The real sport bettors would always be fully analyzing any matches. it's caused by the result of their choice will determine their reward. The group stage was not that important, caused by majority of teams in the group stage of europa league were weak teams.
I do understand why you are saying like that but the bettors are still caring caused by it's about their money.

Quote from: Volgastallion on November 27, 2023, 12:20:07 PM

In the round of 16 or in the H2H we start to see the real games, and we can start to analyze something, and take real information.

True but we need to pass the group stage first. Anyone may always try to make money through betting in any games of europa league. Some matches were serving us some games that easy to predict.
There's nothing wrong when people are also taking the hard match to predict for betting purpose.

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Competition for ranks 1-5 in the Premier League is very tight. All teams are only 1-2 points apart in each ranking. This proves that Liverpool is not fighting hard to be in 3rd place. All the top teams in the English league are trying to maintain their respective rankings. So I can say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous few seasons, only they are playing quite badly and inconsistently this season.

Indeed. EPL competition is always exciting every season because there are many strong teams in EPL. Even small teams can't be underestimated, they can beat the big team at any time. Moreover the race of the title, those teams in the top 4-5 of EPL standings often have small point gaps. Yes, it is actually happening in EPL standings this season, the point differences are only about 1-2 points. It proves that the strength of the EPL teams is almost equal, especially for the top teams. So, it makes sense if Liverpool won't be easy to maintain their position.

for the time being, the difference in points in the Premier League indeed to be only a thin difference, not only the Premier League but like the French League 1, Bundesliga, La League Spanish in the top 5 also have a thin difference in points.
in my opinion Liverpool strength in the Premier League this season is different Liverpool appeared more impressive this season and is ranked 3rd behind Manchester City, isn't that a good result?? It is not easy to advance to the top of the Premier League as it is now because last season Liverpool was below Manchester United and Newcastle, but now both clubs are below Liverpool, which means Liverpool has improved this season.
and in the European league Liverpool also performed well and have only suffered 1 defeat and it is certain that Liverpool will enter the next round and we will see Kloop do his job in bringing Liverpool to an amazing performance in two competitions. If Kloop can bring Liverpool to the title this season, of course many will appreciate it and Kloop will stay longer to becomed Liverpool coach in the future.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 26, 2023, 11:21:06 PM

Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa this season due to their performance so far in the Europa and their domestic league aswell, considering that they look like almost the only biggest team so far in the Europa this season except for a few team.

Liverpool's mentality is focused on winning the Europa this season because it looks like an opportunity for them to win the league this season, Liverpool is very much aware of the competition in the premier league of which they are still doing well there regardless so I don't think they will really be having issues at the Europa except when they will be joined by teams from the UCL , they may experience a bit of tough times but if they get past it then they can be sure to make to winning the league titles.

Yeah Liverpool is in the right position to win the league because there performance has been very encouraging right from the beginning of this season till date because if you check on there statistics of there last four Europa matches you will see that Liverpool stands on a higher chance of winning the league because there impacts and performance they made on there previous last four matches is something to write home about, by wining three matches with a lot of goals and losing only one match to Toulouse.

I think Liverpool major aim is to channel all there energy and performance to this Europa League because there faith on premier league is not defined do to so many clubs that have so much interest on the premier league, but however on this league I don't think they have much of a rival or threat because they are one of the best team on this Europa League.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 26, 2023, 11:21:06 PM

Liverpool is the favourite to win the Europa this season due to their performance so far in the Europa and their domestic league aswell, considering that they look like almost the only biggest team so far in the Europa this season except for a few team.

Tipping Liverpool to be the likely favourite to win the Europa competition isn't bad considering their awesome performance so far in the competition but you need to understand that there are still strong contenders like Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. These clubs are very consistent in the competition and they have experienced coaches that can be able to help the club advance their game to the next level.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 28, 2023, 01:28:05 AM

I understand that currently strong teams only use a few percent of their strength but I think the group stage still plays an important role in the results of the next round and whether it's the top 16, quarter finals, semifinals or final, everything is interrelated. Maybe there will be something surprising in the round of 16, I think it will be quite surprising and maybe there will also be easy steps because from the start the team was at a different level. Let's take the example of teams like Liverpool and Leverkusen, who are the strongest teams at the moment and both are very appropriate to get the ideal European league final later. However, other teams such as Roma, who were also in the European League final last season, also need to be paid attention to. Apart from that, I don't think there are any other threats that could change the results unless the team is unlucky.

I will actually be more curious about waiting for which teams from the Champions League will play in the playoffs for the top 16 in this European league, in my opinion, it is quite important because these teams will be strong competitors for the current favorite teams such as Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool and AS Roma.
There is a chance that Manchester United will be eliminated from the Champions League and is also one of the teams in Group F which can be said to be quite strong regardless of which team from that group will compete here, and maybe Sevilla will return to playing in the European League because they still have that opportunity.
In the knockout phase, it will begin to be seen which team has the greatest chance of becoming champion, although in my opinion, the current favorite team will still have the greatest chance of continuing to advance to the next round.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on November 28, 2023, 02:30:30 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on November 28, 2023, 01:28:05 AM

Quote from: Volgastallion on November 27, 2023, 12:20:07 PM

I repeat again , dont overanalyze the games from group stages, in this kind of tournaments, the big or stronger teams, play them at 80% of his real power, so what we are seeing its not the real play.

In the round of 16 or in the H2H we start to see the real games, and we can start to analyze something, and take real information.

I understand that currently strong teams only use a few percent of their strength but I think the group stage still plays an important role in the results of the next round and whether it's the top 16, quarter finals, semifinals or final, everything is interrelated. Maybe there will be something surprising in the round of 16, I think it will be quite surprising and maybe there will also be easy steps because from the start the team was at a different level. Let's take the example of teams like Liverpool and Leverkusen, who are the strongest teams at the moment and both are very appropriate to get the ideal European league final later. However, other teams such as Roma, who were also in the European League final last season, also need to be paid attention to. Apart from that, I don't think there are any other threats that could change the results unless the team is unlucky.

Liverpool or Laverkusen can reduce the tension of their game a little because they are in a relatively easy group, as can several other favorite clubs. If there was a Hell group like in UCL, maybe there would be no need to save your strength because it is certain that the competition will be tight starting in the group phase. For now, using this strategy by displaying strength according to the opponent's needs is considered effective, meaning we can see the strength of the clubs challenging for the championship when facing fellow strong clubs in the next round. I think this method can really provide a surprise.

It's true as you said, Roma also has the opportunity to talk a lot this time, but we need to wait to see who returns to the Europa League from UCL competition. Maybe there will be changes in the list of favorite clubs in the future, because it is clear that the clubs competing in the UCL will be considered stronger and will be more favorites in the future, without denying the position of Liverpool and Leverkusen.

@indah rezqi the only team that I would be bothered about is Sevilla returning back to this competition because rest however big they’re they don’t take this competition seriously. Furthermore at this stage Liverpool is the favourites to win this competition but as they get close to winning the premier league I feel they’ll slip up so do keep checking their premier league status before wagering on them as this tournament progresses ahead.

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