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If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

I think Liverpool are still very consistent in the Europa League even though they lost to Toulouse in the last game they played. Liverpool will be one of the teams that will represent Group E in the round of 16. They also have the potential to qualify as group winners if you look at the opponents they will face in the two matches that are still available. Favoriting Liverpool as champions of the Europa League this season is very natural in my opinion because the player material that Liverpool has is very good and their performance so far is still reliable.

Even though there will be several teams from the Champions League entering the Europa League via the play-off route, they will not be a serious threat to Liverpool. I will place Bayer Leverkusen as Liverpool toughest competitor this time because of their consistent performance.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on November 25, 2023, 03:29:02 AM

Correct. Even though Liverpool currently appear to be the favorites, actually the most difficult challenge or obstacle will be after the group stage is over. The joining of players who were eliminated from the Champions League also has to be another consideration. But in terms of current performance, Liverpool actually has almost the same performance as the clubs currently competing in the Champions League. The most important thing is that Liverpool must be able to maintain their current performance until the season ends. Because sometimes the more difficult challenge is maintaining the consistency of a squad. Sometimes player injuries can also be an unexpected obstacle.

I also agree. If the player is not injured and has a consistent game, then only bad luck will make Liverpool fail to win the UEFA Europa League. I think everyone here agrees that Liverpool's quality is indeed very superior in the UEFA Europa League. I know no team always wins but Liverpool seems too strong here.

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If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

Apart from Liverpool, another team that will be challenging for the title in the Europa League this season is Bayer Leverkusen, because this season the Bayer Leverkusen team looks really impressive. Whether it's in the Europa League group or in the Bundesliga, they will also be candidates for champions this season, so Liverpool shouldn't be too relaxed in the Europa League because there are still other strong teams that will be an obstacle for him to win a trophy in the Europa League this season. Not to mention the teams that fall in the Champions League who will enter via the play-off route as you said.

Correct. Even though Liverpool currently appear to be the favorites, actually the most difficult challenge or obstacle will be after the group stage is over. The joining of players who were eliminated from the Champions League also has to be another consideration. But in terms of current performance, Liverpool actually has almost the same performance as the clubs currently competing in the Champions League. The most important thing is that Liverpool must be able to maintain their current performance until the season ends. Because sometimes the more difficult challenge is maintaining the consistency of a squad. Sometimes player injuries can also be an unexpected obstacle.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on November 24, 2023, 02:30:06 PM

If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

Apart from Liverpool, another team that will be challenging for the title in the Europa League this season is Bayer Leverkusen, because this season the Bayer Leverkusen team looks really impressive. Whether it's in the Europa League group or in the Bundesliga, they will also be candidates for champions this season, so Liverpool shouldn't be too relaxed in the Europa League because there are still other strong teams that will be an obstacle for him to win a trophy in the Europa League this season. Not to mention the teams that fall in the Champions League who will enter via the play-off route as you said.

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Quote from: harapan on November 24, 2023, 01:26:24 AM

Liverpool manager squad rotation failed and it did not give him result he rested a good set of players for the game they played against Brentford it was a nice thing to rest them but the players played did not bring forth result. Actually, he lost a game to win a safe spot in the premier league everything still nice since they just need a win to qualify. Barcelona did well they got knocked out by Man United and Man United deserved the progress the game was a fair one.
Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition. They have played and failed before, they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

I think Liverpool has quality substituted players, but I don't know why they couldn't play as expected when they are given the chance to play. In the match against Brentford, Liverpool played with their main lineup (main players). If Jurgen Klopp has the bravery, he may keep some main players for the next match against Man City. But he didn't, I think Klopp isn't confident with substituted players.

For the Europa League, I think Liverpool is one of the most favorite team to win the title this season. Although they failed before and they are still difficult to play consistently, I think Klopp knows well how to deal with this problem. Klopp is an experienced coach who won both domestic and international competitions.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 24, 2023, 03:43:14 PM

If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla. Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.

On the other hand, if Xabi Alonso is able to maintain the fitness and consistency of his squad for every match. so I can confirm, any strong team that meets Leverkusen will have difficulty toppling them. Liverpool is no exception, Leverkusen seems quite ready to face it if they meet. Likewise, with the squad that dropped out of the Champions League, Leverkusen is currently ready to fight with any team even though they actually don't have better depth than City or Real Madrid.

But in fact, Xabi can formulate a formula for his squad to go through match after match. So far, Leverkusen appears on the right track. Plus, they haven't lost in all their matches. If they are able to balance against Bayern Munich, they can overcome a team like Sevilla, which has the title of king of the Europa League, easily. in fact, Sevilla's performance is really unstable. In fact, their chances of finishing in 3rd place in the Champions League group stage are very doubtful. I suspect that Sevilla will fail and will not compete in this league. But in football it's unique, we'll see, it's not over yet. There is still a chance, even though it is very slim.

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If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

Liverpool surely has a strong track record of success in European competitions, Their current squad is full of talented players, but Liverpool never played with their strongest lineup in Europa League this season which suggests this competition is not their priority. This can make them slip at any stage.

There are also a number of other teams that could potentially fall out of the Champions League and into the Europa League play-offs. The Europa League is shaping up to be an exciting competition this season, with a number of strong teams competing for the title. Liverpool is the early favorite, but that depends on their focus on this competition. they will face stiff competition from other potential challengers.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on November 24, 2023, 02:30:06 PM

If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

Asides Leverkusen who has been really good this season both in the Europa and their domestic league I don't think any other team in the Europa currently matches the strength and dept of Liverpool , Leverkusen has a Coach who is on a mission and will stop at nothing to accomplish it.

Liverpool has some very good experience which spams over a good period of years in the Europa as they have been a finalist at some point and they aswell have an experienced coach who wants to at all costs win the Europa this season, so all this factors summed up together, has made them the favourite to win the Europa because asides Leverkusen and other teams who may possibly join from the UCL soon, Liverpool has very clear chances.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 24, 2023, 03:43:14 PM

If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla. Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.

Okay, I see a pretty easy road for Liverpool, but maybe it won't be as easy after the group stages. The European league championship will be an important achievement for Klopp. Their opponents in the group they were in were quite easy, they only had one defeat, I don't know how they named even that defeat. The other team that stood out to me was Bayern Leverkusen, who won four of their four matches in the group and got their ticket out of the group early.

On the other hand, we are talking about a team with 16 wins in 17 matches in the Bundesliga league they play in. Xabi Alonso has made the team shine and why shouldn't he increase this shine by winning a cup in the UEFA European league, I think he can continue this much success.

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Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition. They have played and failed before, they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

We definitely need to wait for UCL group stages to end first, that is definitely the most important part because there could be some seriously great teams that could come from there. Sevilla is of course a serious joke, I mean serious joke as in they are a great team so that's serious and they won this title more than anyone else that part is serious, but when you think about a game between liverpool vs sevilla, you do not consider sevilla to be the favorites there, obviously Liverpool is much better.

I think there could be some amazing clubs coming from UCL this season, and that means they are going to end up with some serious opponents they will have hard time against, so Liverpool has been the best so far, but we will see after UCL group stages are over.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 24, 2023, 03:43:14 PM

If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla. Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.

We can easily drop our prediction of the winner of the Europa League. Jurgen Klopp possess the necessary strength, tactics and excellent squad to reach significant stages this season in Europa. Liverpool is only in the picture because we have not seen the main contenders for the Europa league yet, but Sevilla might fall in the category of teams that will be enlisted for Europa spots due to their poor performance in UCL this season. We know how competitive Sevilla can in Europa League, they're popularly recognizable and they will travel to any length to level energy for the title.

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If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla. Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.

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What? From the first day you said that Liverpool is going to win the Europa League? I would like to bet against it not because I think they can't win the title, but because the odds are against anyone who says from day one who is going to win the title. I remember that even Manchester City was about to not win the Champions League final in the regular 90 minutes and it was a bit of luck that helped them score that one goal. Situations in a game that nobody can anticipate can have a huge impact.

I understand your perspective about the odds going against the favourites but it is always in the rare cases. Talking about Manchester city, they have been the most unlucky in the champions league. Every season they will be named the best team and yet they will not win the champions league, if not for the last season that the narrative changed.

It is also possible that Liverpool will not win the Europa League because this is football, but a bet that Liverpool will win the Europa League is less risky and likely to happen. So, it is not an insane prediction if someone decides to bet on that.

Of course it is not insanity to bet on Liverpool as the Europa League winner and in fact I would agree that it makes sense to do it early on when someone has a good feeling about it as the odds still make it worth it. This is not meant to be against anyone taking the decision to bet on Liverpool. I am just saying that talking in definitive terms about Liverpool becoming the Europa League even before the group stage ended is naive. France was supposed to win the World Cup, but they didn't. Arsenal was supposed to win the Europa League last season, but they didn't. Manchester City was supposed to win the Champions League in the last five years, but they only did once. That's what I mean.

Intelligible, we can only make assumptions based on their current statistics and performance to guess what will happen in the future. In this case, many predictions are wrong, and indeed we cannot control what should happen in the future. It could be that Liverpool are the favorites at the moment, but who would have thought that in the end Roma would be the champions, that's football.

There is no guarantee that a club will become champions even though in reality they are very tough to beat, we know that the Reds have previously lost to a club like Toulouse in a surprising way. Apart from the above, it all comes back to individual perception, there is nothing wrong if we want to bet on one of the clubs, at least it can make us enjoy the course of the competition.

On the other hand, so far only Laverkusen has been able to record perfect points in four matches without drawing or losing, without getting much attention, the other two teams, Marseille and Atalanta, have also not experienced defeat. It's quite interesting if both of them can make a surprise so far, who knows they will become a stumbling block for the favorite team in the future.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 24, 2023, 01:19:23 PM

Liverpool needs to try even harder. Just because liverpool was a strong club from EPL and it doesn't mean the club can win europa league easily. Leverkusen was also in the same level as bayern. This is going to become the most difficult team to be beaten by liverpool.
i hope that we will able to see liverpool to face bayern leverkusen in the final. There have been many people who also hoped the same as me. Leverkusen is UCL level now.

No doubt if bookies were also favoring it to win europa league this season. Im sure leverkusen and liverpool will able to dominate the competition. Im wondering what club that will be dropped from UCL.
Probably acmilan or newcastle. We will see another one to come as a strong competitor to win the europa league.

If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.

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Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition. They have played and failed before, they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

Liverpool and Leverkusen are in very good form in the Europa League. The Leverkusen team is unbeaten so far. However, Liverpool lost a match against Toulouse. Even so, these two teams seem to be the strongest contenders for the Europa League title so far. However, several teams from the Champions League will play in this year's Europa League. Big teams like Manchester United, Newcastle, PSG and Dortmund are likely to play in the Europa League. And if these teams are in the Europa League, it will not be easy for Leverkusen and Liverpool to dominate the Europa League. It cannot be said yet which team is the favorite for the Europa League title.

Liverpool needs to try even harder. Just because liverpool was a strong club from EPL and it doesn't mean the club can win europa league easily. Leverkusen was also in the same level as bayern. This is going to become the most difficult team to be beaten by liverpool.
i hope that we will able to see liverpool to face bayern leverkusen in the final. There have been many people who also hoped the same as me. Leverkusen is UCL level now.

No doubt if bookies were also favoring it to win europa league this season. Im sure leverkusen and liverpool will able to dominate the competition. Im wondering what club that will be dropped from UCL.
Probably acmilan or newcastle. We will see another one to come as a strong competitor to win the europa league.

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Quote from: temple on November 24, 2023, 12:59:05 PM

Of course it is not insanity to bet on Liverpool as the Europa League winner and in fact I would agree that it makes sense to do it early on when someone has a good feeling about it as the odds still make it worth it. This is not meant to be against anyone taking the decision to bet on Liverpool. I am just saying that talking in definitive terms about Liverpool becoming the Europa League even before the group stage ended is naive. France was supposed to win the World Cup, but they didn't. Arsenal was supposed to win the Europa League last season, but they didn't. Manchester City was supposed to win the Champions League in the last five years, but they only did once. That's what I mean.

Liverpool was supposed to win the game,So you are not worry at the end.So don't use the odds to bet on Liverpool,the many gambler had their own bet on livepool compared to the other team.Don't allow other people to take your own decision,because the betting is based on the money earned by your hard work.So you need to take decision on your own,it help you to become the self controlled person.Arsenal was consider to be the top team next to the Liverpool,but the fan base for the Liverpool always high compared to any team in the European league.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 24, 2023, 08:12:44 AM

Quote from: temple on November 23, 2023, 11:31:33 AM

What? From the first day you said that Liverpool is going to win the Europa League? I would like to bet against it not because I think they can't win the title, but because the odds are against anyone who says from day one who is going to win the title. I remember that even Manchester City was about to not win the Champions League final in the regular 90 minutes and it was a bit of luck that helped them score that one goal. Situations in a game that nobody can anticipate can have a huge impact.

I understand your perspective about the odds going against the favourites but it is always in the rare cases. Talking about Manchester city, they have been the most unlucky in the champions league. Every season they will be named the best team and yet they will not win the champions league, if not for the last season that the narrative changed.

It is also possible that Liverpool will not win the Europa League because this is football, but a bet that Liverpool will win the Europa League is less risky and likely to happen. So, it is not an insane prediction if someone decides to bet on that.

Of course it is not insanity to bet on Liverpool as the Europa League winner and in fact I would agree that it makes sense to do it early on when someone has a good feeling about it as the odds still make it worth it. This is not meant to be against anyone taking the decision to bet on Liverpool. I am just saying that talking in definitive terms about Liverpool becoming the Europa League even before the group stage ended is naive. France was supposed to win the World Cup, but they didn't. Arsenal was supposed to win the Europa League last season, but they didn't. Manchester City was supposed to win the Champions League in the last five years, but they only did once. That's what I mean.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 24, 2023, 02:07:11 AM

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Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition. They have played and failed before, they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

Although Liverpool have received 1 defeat before by Toulouse but still, that Liverpool will still be the winner of group E. Because after all, that Liverpool are also still strong by having 9 points at this moment, and in second place is placed by Toulouse with 7 points . So ya, obviously Liverpool will still qualify for the next round and of course, Liverpool are also included as title candidates this season in the Europa League. But even though Liverpool are one of the title candidate teams, but of course it still won't be easy for Liverpool to achieve it . Because anyway, at least with Liverpool defeat by Toulouse also provides evidence, although Liverpool will still qualify but sometimes Liverpool can also slip at any time.

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Although in as much as Liverpool may still have some more rivals that may likely challenge there performance I don't think that would made them to lose the chance of becoming the Europa League champion.

If we look at the history of previous UEFA Europa League champions, the champions were indeed a strong team in Europe like Sevilla. I think there is nothing unpredictable here. But of course all teams still have the same opportunities. And it often happens that a weak team beats a strong team. But this season the Uefa European League has clubs at Champions League level like Liverpool. I still see Liverpool as the one who will have the biggest chance of becoming champions. Liverpool is a team that has Champions League quality. Other teams who have a chance are Marseille and West Ham but I would still bet on Liverpool.

So far, Liverpool can be said to be the strongest club in the Europa League this season, but that does not guarantee that they will easily win the title. Last season Arsenal were also predicted to be champions and considered the strongest club, but as we know Sevilla managed to become champions in the end. I think in this Europa League it becomes more complicated, because a strong club is not necessarily a champion, and the champion is a club that is actually ordinary. This may also happen this season, if Liverpool are serious about the Europa League they must do their best.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 24, 2023, 11:35:48 AM

If we look at the history of previous UEFA Europa League champions, the champions were indeed a strong team in Europe like Sevilla. I think there is nothing unpredictable here. But of course all teams still have the same opportunities. And it often happens that a weak team beats a strong team. But this season the Uefa European League has clubs at Champions League level like Liverpool. I still see Liverpool as the one who will have the biggest chance of becoming champions. Liverpool is a team that has Champions League quality. Other teams who have a chance are Marseille and West Ham but I would still bet on Liverpool.

Compared to last season, Liverpool seems to have improved its performance. The chance to become UEL champions is open for Liverpool if they can maintain their performance. There are not many teams at Liverpool's level on this phase, until all teams that have been relegated from the UCL coming. More than 10 years ago, the last time Liverpool won the UEL title, I think even it's not a major trophy, winning the UEL will be the target this season.

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