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November 26, 2023, 12:31:30 PM
I agree that Liverpool is one of the top European teams, but I don't agree if their players have good mentality. We can say Liverpool players have good mentality few seasons ago, sadly it is no longer the same in this season. If they have good mentality, they must play consistently and will have no problems in EPL this season. In fact, we can see Liverpool is struggling to stay in the top 3 of the table, it seems they play inconsistently.
Competition for ranks 1-5 in the Premier League is very tight. All teams are only 1-2 points apart in each ranking. This proves that Liverpool is not fighting hard to be in 3rd place. All the top teams in the English league are trying to maintain their respective rankings. So I can say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous few seasons, only they are playing quite badly and inconsistently this season.
I do believe that they are doing fine, look at the City game they just played, they got a tie at City's stadium, that should definitely be an important situation. Plus, City may look great but they are in trouble about financial fair play as well, been getting investigations all the time, and that means even we know it is not going to be all of them, if they get even half of them stick, we could see City drop leagues by far, and Liverpool would have been the rightful winners, even if they can't get the actual title.

So all in all, I would say that Liverpool is fighting against the best of them this season, they are capable of getting a tie against City in an away game, so these Europa cup teams are nothing for them.
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November 26, 2023, 12:27:48 PM
Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition.  They have played and failed before,  they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

Although Liverpool have received 1 defeat before by Toulouse but still, that Liverpool will still be the winner of group E. Because after all, that Liverpool are also still strong by having 9 points at this moment, and in second place is placed by Toulouse with 7 points . So ya, obviously Liverpool will still qualify for the next round and of course, Liverpool are also included as title candidates this season in the Europa League. But even though Liverpool are one of the title candidate teams, but of course it still won't be easy for Liverpool to achieve it . Because anyway, at least with Liverpool defeat by Toulouse also provides evidence, although Liverpool will still qualify but sometimes Liverpool can also slip at any time.

I think Liverpool is not going to worry too much about the next match in the Europa League competition. They are going to actually give more importance to the English Premier League matches right now. Because the English Premier League matches are going to be a lot harder right now compared to the European league matches for Liverpool. Liverpool is going to face order competition later in the tournament. But in the English Premier League, they are constantly facing good opponents. The next match against LASK  should be easy for Liverpool.
Liverpool is going to face LASK and it's an easy game for liverpool. The club still needs to win that came to make sure that if liverpool can stay at the top. The gap to the LASK and union saint are quite big but liverpool may be losing a stop at the knock out stage if the club will get two losses in a row. People are not willing to see that happens. Klopp shall not be doing another stupid thing like using the secondary squad to play in europa league.

The quality of secondary squad far worse. Liverpool needs to use the main squad to make sure the club can qualify to the next stage. Klopp shall stop to take it easy its opponent. I don't wanna see liverpool to get another lose against LASK. The club shall stop to do stupid things like the match against toulouse.
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November 26, 2023, 11:19:44 AM

We all knew that Liverpool would go on "tolouse" that game lol. All jokes aside, I think they are doing wonderful in premier league right now as well, which means that they are capable of being as high as UCL if they were there, I mean if they were in the UCL today and played in a group, there are very few groups that they would hard time going up, they would be bale to be in the top 2 of almost any group, remove any team you want and put Liveprool in and there are just 2 groups I would not be entirely sure if they could go up or not, rest of the groups they could.

When you are that good, Europa cup suddenly becomes a lot less important for you, and it makes people question the situation and how these competitions are ranked to be fair.

I think the Europa league is widely underestimated even  sometimes the big clubs which find their selves in the competition due to their poor form in the previous season, but if you look at it clearly this is a fairly tough competition just like the UCL in the sense that the Thursday Europa league fixtures and Sunday League fixtures leaving the clubs in the competition with lesser time to recover rather than clubs in the UCL which have more time for recovery. Most times leaving the managers with difficult options in squad rotation, this usually affects either their Europa or league form.

 The Knockout stages of the Europa is also a very tricky one, as clubs who didn't qualify for the UCL Knockout stages come to compete in the competition and this usually makes it harder to win, with these I think the Europa league is not a competition that should be underestimated of any sorts.
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November 26, 2023, 10:22:56 AM
That's correct and they should be ready for the challenges ahead. Clubs knocked out of the Champions League would be down there with them. They'll have to go harder or be amongst those going home also. They remain the biggest European side from the Premier League.
The challenge will turn out a bit tougher than it is now when teams from the champions league will join the Europa league, Liverpool will have to perform even better than they have all along in the Europa because there teams from the UCL will definitely be tough on them.

It will definitely be an entirely different game than it was with the group stage teams because in their group currently Liverpool happen to be better than others both in their form and depth, klop will need not try the rotation tactics when he gets pass the group stage because he will not be getting the desired results just like it did played out recently and it will cost him even more at that stage than it did with the group stage.
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November 26, 2023, 09:07:14 AM
Regarding most competitive with Premier League but on Europe League the winner dominance by La Liga team exactly Sevilla who play on Champion League this season and have chance relegated to Europe League if finish on third place. During Europe League with new format have two Premier League teams become the winner with Chelsea on season 2012/13 and Manchester United three season later on 2016/17. Almost six years Premier League teams difficult for winning Europe League and this season will Liverpool can be the next Premier League team win Europe League tittle?

Season 2023/24 Premier League have three participants teams and current standings get chance qualify to next round but will one of three Premier League teams West Ham United, Brighton Albion and Liverpool will be the winner?
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November 26, 2023, 08:57:05 AM

 I think Liverpool are still very consistent in the Europa League even though they lost to Toulouse in the last game they played. Liverpool will be one of the teams that will represent Group E in the round of 16. They also have the potential to qualify as group winners if you look at the opponents they will face in the two matches that are still available. Favoriting Liverpool as champions of the Europa League this season is very natural in my opinion because the player material that Liverpool has is very good and their performance so far is still reliable.

Even though there will be several teams from the Champions League entering the Europa League via the play-off route, they will not be a serious threat to Liverpool. I will place Bayer Leverkusen as Liverpool toughest competitor this time because of their consistent performance.
Liverpool are a top European club and know what it requires to bring home an European trophy. Them falling short to Toulouse wouldn’t be a hindrance for them qualifying, and in general Liverpool has a team that could challenge for the title but we can’t shy away from the fact that we’ve got teams that are as good as Liverpool and really on good form and could pose some threats, a team such as Bayern Leverkusen.

 Liverpool will have lots of work to do if they want to be crowned European champions and that’s really going to be a big ine because they’ll really have to over work some players and still keep them fit for the game, I don’t think any team coming from the UCL will pose a threat to Bayern Leverkusen or Liverpool going forward.

The squad rotation from Jurgen Klopp wasn't a stupid decision, it just didn't bring the required points. Anyways fans will always demand more from the players and will always want to win. ( At most the die hard fans and those that placed bets on Liverpool to win ) The lose won't leave them in a dangerous position so it was a nice shot.

That's correct and they should be ready for the challenges ahead. Clubs knocked out of the Champions League would be down there with them. They'll have to go harder or be amongst those going home also. They remain the biggest European side from the Premier League.
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November 26, 2023, 08:48:41 AM
I agree that Liverpool is one of the top European teams, but I don't agree if their players have good mentality. We can say Liverpool players have good mentality few seasons ago, sadly it is no longer the same in this season. If they have good mentality, they must play consistently and will have no problems in EPL this season. In fact, we can see Liverpool is struggling to stay in the top 3 of the table, it seems they play inconsistently.

Competition for ranks 1-5 in the Premier League is very tight. All teams are only 1-2 points apart in each ranking. This proves that Liverpool is not fighting hard to be in 3rd place. All the top teams in the English league are trying to maintain their respective rankings. So I can say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous few seasons, only they are playing quite badly and inconsistently this season.
The Premier League is a very competitive league, it's not easy for clubs to be in the top 4 there. Liverpool in my opinion they are one of the clubs that are highly considered in the Premier League, despite their decline last season, this season they are doing better. And in their last match they were able to hold Manchester City to a draw at the Ettihad, something that is not easy to do.
Mentally they are also good, only in the Premier League the competition is very tight indeed. Even if we compare with other clubs, like Chelsea and Manchester United for example they are much better, even though we know the 2 clubs I mentioned are 2 big clubs in the Premier League.
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November 26, 2023, 03:14:16 AM
I agree that Liverpool is one of the top European teams, but I don't agree if their players have good mentality. We can say Liverpool players have good mentality few seasons ago, sadly it is no longer the same in this season. If they have good mentality, they must play consistently and will have no problems in EPL this season. In fact, we can see Liverpool is struggling to stay in the top 3 of the table, it seems they play inconsistently.

Competition for ranks 1-5 in the Premier League is very tight. All teams are only 1-2 points apart in each ranking. This proves that Liverpool is not fighting hard to be in 3rd place. All the top teams in the English league are trying to maintain their respective rankings. So I can say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous few seasons, only they are playing quite badly and inconsistently this season.
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November 25, 2023, 06:41:21 PM
It's true that Liverpool is Europe's top team and they have a pretty good mentality, but this is a Europa League competition which is full of surprises, so I think even though Liverpool are favorites to win the title this season, their percentage is not that big.
I still remember last season how Arsenal were the favorites to win the Europa League but in reality they had to leave early, maybe the same goes for Liverpool this season especially since they also have to focus on the fierce competition in the Premier League in the race for the title.
I agree that Liverpool is one of the top European teams, but I don't agree if their players have good mentality. We can say Liverpool players have good mentality few seasons ago, sadly it is no longer the same in this season. If they have good mentality, they must play consistently and will have no problems in EPL this season. In fact, we can see Liverpool is struggling to stay in the top 3 of the table, it seems they play inconsistently.

Sure, Europe League is always full surprising. A strong team like Liverpool isn't impossible to defeat by other smaller teams. So, Liverpool can experience the same thing as Arsenal if they underestimate other teams in Europe League. TBH, I don't expect Liverpool to leave early, I want to see this team to be in the final round.

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November 25, 2023, 06:21:55 PM
In essence, for Liverpool match in this group phase, it is certain that Liverpool will remain safe, because it is clear that Liverpool has above average quality compared to other teams in this group. Therefore, I say even though Liverpool lost in the previous match but still, Liverpool will be able to qualify. But ya, the next consideration is about match in the knockout phase later, because Liverpool can also sometimes fail and or slip later. Therefore, although Liverpool are included as candidates for the trophy this season but still, it will not be easy for Liverpool to get it. At least, that is the important point I am referring to.

If last season what we often discussed was Manchester United, this season Liverpool is always the theme of our discussions. OK, let's just follow the flow, and we agree that Liverpool remains safe in Group E. Even though they lost on the fourth matchday of the group phase to Toulouse, still Liverpool are currently in first place with 9 points. and Liverpool will take advantage of the remaining two group stage matches of this competition by winning. Yep, at least they will confirm their position as winners of Group E.

And as you said, the next round is the real match, it's possible that Liverpool will meet a team that is quite strong as their opponent later. or maybe, Liverpool will meet a team that fell out of the Chanpions League group stage. However, so far there is no certainty which teams will fail in the Champions League group phase, and which teams will qualify for the next round in the Europa League group phase as a whole.
Even so, it's not just Liverpool who are favorites in this competition. We all know that Leverkusen has the same probability of advancing to the next round and even has the potential to become a competitor for other strong teams. Let's just follow how things develop, especially after the completion of the Champions League group phase and also the Europa League group phase.
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November 25, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
Liverpool's condition this season is very different and I will not equate Liverpool's condition in the Europa League with Arsenal's condition last season in the Europa League, because Liverpool have really made quite a breakthrough by continuing to provide quite fierce resistance to their opponents. Especially in the Premier League, and this can also happen in the European League because here there are not many opponents who are strong and comparable to Liverpool, except for the teams that were eliminated from the Champions League and came here to compete with weaker teams.
Their performance today in the premier league tho much on the defensive but they were able to get a comeback they kept them at an equalizer with their opponent in the game today, they were really fierce with their resistance not Minding the fact they were playing from away.

Their opponent happens to be one of the toughest team in the premier league currently and has successfully won some other big teams aswell so I think a draw with such a team will definitely get their confidence up there against other teams in the Europa, because most of the teams in the Europa can not be compared to the opponent Liverpool did faced in the premier league this weekend so they are most likely going to Play their europa fixtures even more confidently.
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November 25, 2023, 01:16:44 PM
If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.
I think Liverpool are still very consistent in the Europa League even though they lost to Toulouse in the last game they played. Liverpool will be one of the teams that will represent Group E in the round of 16. They also have the potential to qualify as group winners if you look at the opponents they will face in the two matches that are still available. Favoriting Liverpool as champions of the Europa League this season is very natural in my opinion because the player material that Liverpool has is very good and their performance so far is still reliable.

Even though there will be several teams from the Champions League entering the Europa League via the play-off route, they will not be a serious threat to Liverpool. I will place Bayer Leverkusen as Liverpool toughest competitor this time because of their consistent performance.
We all knew that Liverpool would go on "tolouse" that game lol. All jokes aside, I think they are doing wonderful in premier league right now as well, which means that they are capable of being as high as UCL if they were there, I mean if they were in the UCL today and played in a group, there are very few groups that they would hard time going up, they would be bale to be in the top 2 of almost any group, remove any team you want and put Liveprool in and there are just 2 groups I would not be entirely sure if they could go up or not, rest of the groups they could.

When you are that good, Europa cup suddenly becomes a lot less important for you, and it makes people question the situation and how these competitions are ranked to be fair.
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November 25, 2023, 12:56:26 PM
It's true that Liverpool is Europe's top team and they have a pretty good mentality, but this is a Europa League competition which is full of surprises, so I think even though Liverpool are favorites to win the title this season, their percentage is not that big.
I still remember last season how Arsenal were the favorites to win the Europa League but in reality they had to leave early, maybe the same goes for Liverpool this season especially since they also have to focus on the fierce competition in the Premier League in the race for the title.
Liverpool's condition this season is very different and I will not equate Liverpool's condition in the Europa League with Arsenal's condition last season in the Europa League, because Liverpool have really made quite a breakthrough by continuing to provide quite fierce resistance to their opponents. Especially in the Premier League, and this can also happen in the European League because here there are not many opponents who are strong and comparable to Liverpool, except for the teams that were eliminated from the Champions League and came here to compete with weaker teams.
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November 25, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition.  They have played and failed before,  they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

Although Liverpool have received 1 defeat before by Toulouse but still, that Liverpool will still be the winner of group E. Because after all, that Liverpool are also still strong by having 9 points at this moment, and in second place is placed by Toulouse with 7 points . So ya, obviously Liverpool will still qualify for the next round and of course, Liverpool are also included as title candidates this season in the Europa League. But even though Liverpool are one of the title candidate teams, but of course it still won't be easy for Liverpool to achieve it . Because anyway, at least with Liverpool defeat by Toulouse also provides evidence, although Liverpool will still qualify but sometimes Liverpool can also slip at any time.

I think Liverpool is not going to worry too much about the next match in the Europa League competition. They are going to actually give more importance to the English Premier League matches right now. Because the English Premier League matches are going to be a lot harder right now compared to the European league matches for Liverpool. Liverpool is going to face order competition later in the tournament. But in the English Premier League, they are constantly facing good opponents. The next match against LASK  should be easy for Liverpool.

In essence, for Liverpool match in this group phase, it is certain that Liverpool will remain safe, because it is clear that Liverpool has above average quality compared to other teams in this group. Therefore, I say even though Liverpool lost in the previous match but still, Liverpool will be able to qualify. But ya, the next consideration is about match in the knockout phase later, because Liverpool can also sometimes fail and or slip later. Therefore, although Liverpool are included as candidates for the trophy this season but still, it will not be easy for Liverpool to get it. At least, that is the important point I am referring to.
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November 25, 2023, 11:38:09 AM
Liverpool have not been inconsistent in Europa League they will go far they are one of the biggest sides in the competition.  They have played and failed before,  they are now trying to kill two birds with a stone. Premier League top four for Champions league and winning the Europa League Competition.

yes, Liverpool is one of the strong candidates for the Europa League. we still haven't seen the teams that will enter the playoff round from those eliminated from the Champions League. we cannot underestimate the teams that will enter the play-off round. but Liverpool with the remaining matches I think will be easy for them to win. and they will qualify for the next round. they have a fairly easy group and their performance this season has made quite an improvement over last season.

Although Liverpool have received 1 defeat before by Toulouse but still, that Liverpool will still be the winner of group E. Because after all, that Liverpool are also still strong by having 9 points at this moment, and in second place is placed by Toulouse with 7 points . So ya, obviously Liverpool will still qualify for the next round and of course, Liverpool are also included as title candidates this season in the Europa League. But even though Liverpool are one of the title candidate teams, but of course it still won't be easy for Liverpool to achieve it . Because anyway, at least with Liverpool defeat by Toulouse also provides evidence, although Liverpool will still qualify but sometimes Liverpool can also slip at any time.

I think Liverpool is not going to worry too much about the next match in the Europa League competition. They are going to actually give more importance to the English Premier League matches right now. Because the English Premier League matches are going to be a lot harder right now compared to the European league matches for Liverpool. Liverpool is going to face order competition later in the tournament. But in the English Premier League, they are constantly facing good opponents. The next match against LASK  should be easy for Liverpool.
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November 25, 2023, 10:30:50 AM

 I think Liverpool are still very consistent in the Europa League even though they lost to Toulouse in the last game they played. Liverpool will be one of the teams that will represent Group E in the round of 16. They also have the potential to qualify as group winners if you look at the opponents they will face in the two matches that are still available. Favoriting Liverpool as champions of the Europa League this season is very natural in my opinion because the player material that Liverpool has is very good and their performance so far is still reliable.

Even though there will be several teams from the Champions League entering the Europa League via the play-off route, they will not be a serious threat to Liverpool. I will place Bayer Leverkusen as Liverpool toughest competitor this time because of their consistent performance.
Liverpool are a top European club and know what it requires to bring home an European trophy. Them falling short to Toulouse wouldn’t be a hindrance for them qualifying, and in general Liverpool has a team that could challenge for the title but we can’t shy away from the fact that we’ve got teams that are as good as Liverpool and really on good form and could pose some threats, a team such as Bayern Leverkusen.

 Liverpool will have lots of work to do if they want to be crowned European champions and that’s really going to be a big ine because they’ll really have to over work some players and still keep them fit for the game, I don’t think any team coming from the UCL will pose a threat to Bayern Leverkusen or Liverpool going forward.
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November 25, 2023, 10:23:18 AM
If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla.  Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.
Sevilla are referred to as the kings of the Europa League, yes that's not wrong because they are repeated champions here. But this season I can't be sure whether they will be able to penetrate the Europa League or not, because in the Champions League itself they are at the bottom of the standings now with 3 points adrift of the club that occupies the Europa League zone, Lens. There is still a chance for them to be able to coup Lens' position, but it is also a very difficult thing, especially since their current appearance tends to be not good and for me personally I cannot hope for them when Sevilla has such a performance.
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November 25, 2023, 09:25:55 AM
If I bet on the potential winner of the Europa League I would probably go for a team with higher odds rather than Liverpool and a team which make sense to bet on considering the way they play etc. also. But I wouldn't be in a hurry to place a bet on it already now. Because there are going to be more teams joining from the Champions League also.

Because there is especially a team that can change the way of my betting on the winner - Sevilla.  Grin

Sevilla wouldn't have much higher odds of course so I would contradict with what I said maybe. But when it comes to the king of the Europa League it is difficult for me not to choose them.

Why the rush? Take your time and don't invest on Liverpool please, it's just too early. We're yet to see clubs joining, and when they do it won't be just As Roma, Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool no more. It'll increase knowing well that they'll come with a lot of willpower and force to attack the Competition.

Sevilla whenever they come to the Champions League sucks ASF! They should get a better manager. And I still ponder why sack a manager that won them the Europa League Competition last season. Will anything good come out from this coach?
If Sevilla drops, I'm backing them up separately. Jose Mourinho would try but he's got no good quality players to win this title
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November 25, 2023, 06:29:51 AM
Correct. Even though Liverpool currently appear to be the favorites, actually the most difficult challenge or obstacle will be after the group stage is over. The joining of players who were eliminated from the Champions League also has to be another consideration. But in terms of current performance, Liverpool actually has almost the same performance as the clubs currently competing in the Champions League. The most important thing is that Liverpool must be able to maintain their current performance until the season ends. Because sometimes the more difficult challenge is maintaining the consistency of a squad. Sometimes player injuries can also be an unexpected obstacle.
I also agree. If the player is not injured and has a consistent game, then only bad luck will make Liverpool fail to win the UEFA Europa League. I think everyone here agrees that Liverpool's quality is indeed very superior in the UEFA Europa League. I know no team always wins but Liverpool seems too strong here.

You are right that Liverpool's quality is much better in the Europa League. And this is why I have considerable doubt whether the team has any interest in the European league title. We have also seen in the past that big teams like Barcelona, Manchester United and Liverpool have no interest in the Europa League title. They want to win their league title first. And gives more priority to their own league matches. Usually, mediocre teams like Roma and Sevilla dominate the Europa League. This season I think the Leverkusen team will try their best to win the Europa League title.
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November 25, 2023, 06:15:11 AM
If you look at the history and material of the current players and coaches, it is very natural that Liverpool are the favorites to win the Europa League. However, Liverpool, which often experiences a sudden decline in performance, sometimes means that this opportunity can be lost. But I think it's still too early to judge who will be the best. Arsenal or even later there will be more teams that fall in the Champions League and enter the European League via the play-off route.
Apart from Liverpool, another team that will be challenging for the title in the Europa League this season is Bayer Leverkusen, because this season the Bayer Leverkusen team looks really impressive. Whether it's in the Europa League group or in the Bundesliga, they will also be candidates for champions this season, so Liverpool shouldn't be too relaxed in the Europa League because there are still other strong teams that will be an obstacle for him to win a trophy in the Europa League this season. Not to mention the teams that fall in the Champions League who will enter via the play-off route as you said.
Leverkusen may become the strongest competitor for bayern at this moment. Bayern leverkusen is still trying so hard in repeating the result last season but the club is trying to do better than last season. Leverkusen out from europa league when it has reached the quarter final.
Xabi has learned from the previous mistake and leverkusen is now much more stronger compared with the last season. Let's see how far leverkusen will be playing in europa league.
Im guessing that if leverkusen will be going to the quarter final again soon.
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