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November 10, 2023, 05:37:45 AM
Replacing many key players should not be a reason because in terms of quality the Toulouse team is far below Liverpool and also in the domestic league the Toulouse team is in a slump right now and this is really a big surprise in this week's Europa League match, no one expected Liverpool to lose against the team. Toulouse, I lost a lot of my bets in this match.
In theory, it should be like that, playing more reserve players should not make Liverpool lose to Toulouse because the quality of the players is quite different, but the problem is that these players rarely or can even be said to never play as a team, they play more often when there are core players who have to be replaced in the middle of the match so it takes time to get cohesive as a team.
Very good point that all the reserve players Liverpool seem to have just to rest the main squad. They really don't seem to be the same team and Klopp usually prefers to play the main squad and the substitutes are hardly ever played. This time the lineup was just as experimental. but unlike the previous games in the europa league Klopp released Salah not in the very end, but now the role of joker for Liverpool was to play Diogo Jota and he almost managed to score one goal, but at the end was unlucky when Liverpool's third goal was canceled. In any case the defeat really has almost no effect on Liverpool, they are also in first place in the group.
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November 10, 2023, 05:23:21 AM
The defeat was not a disaster for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp had other focuses so he chose to play his reserve players, because winning the English Premier League match is currently much more important than winning all the matches in the European League group phase because they only need one win and with two matches remaining quite confident that Liverpool will be able to achieve one win to secure a place in the knockout rounds.
After many years as a coach, Klopp is experienced enough to know at the end of a season, titles mean much. How many matches a team won in a season does not make too much sense if no title at the end. He knows that to go far in a long season, he must use his players very smartly to help them reserve their feet, avoid injuries and have as best fitness as possible when a season comes to its ending and at toughest time.

One defeat always brings some negative feeling, disappointment but at the season ending, if Liverpool can lift the Europa Cup trophy or Premier League trophy, their fans will be very happy and today defeat will be forgotten.

I think this is true about Klopp and he understands that it doesn't matter whether he plays a six win group stage with his team or not, the only thing that matters is that they get through the group stage in first place if possible and then keep going and go for the title. This won't really affect them and I also think they have played good enough to win it, they had the chances also dominated most of the game, but Toulouse was on the lucky side of things in that game and turned their chances into goals in the right moments.
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November 10, 2023, 03:34:38 AM
Finally Westham was able to make good use of today's home match against Olympiakos and was able to win the match that previously beat them. Lucas Paqueta was the hero for Westham in this match. Due to this victory, Westham is now increasingly confident in leading group A with 9 points.

but we shouldn't be happy just yet because Westham and Freiburg have the same points. in the next match Westham must make the best use of the opportunity and don't let Freiburg take over the opportunity, in the next 2 remaining matches I hope Westham can win the match and qualify for next round.
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November 10, 2023, 02:51:59 AM
A night full of surprise results unfortunately and I think we were all not that careful to have noticed that unwritten law in European competitions which is,if in Champions League all favorites win their games it is a sure thing then that in Europa League and Conference League we will have huge surprises,so I first paid a huge prize by losing all of my tickets yesterday  Grin.

Liverpool I believe to have been the biggest surprise of the day,after destroying Toulouse at home 5-1 I thought they would have no problems winning also far away from home and consolidate their lead,it is no problem though as Liverpool will mostly qualify.
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November 10, 2023, 12:43:14 AM
In the last 2 matches, Liverpool have not played optimally, in the Premier League, Liverpool were also held to a draw by bottom teams last weekend.
Replacing many key players should not be a reason because in terms of quality the Toulouse team is far below Liverpool and also in the domestic league the Toulouse team is in a slump right now and this is really a big surprise in this week's Europa League match, no one expected Liverpool to lose against the team. Toulouse, I lost a lot of my bets in this match.
first of all, maybe my opinion will be a little contradictory to your statement, but that okay, its just a different opinion.

TBH, I will never compare performance in domestic league matches with other competitions because it will definitely be very different and a team will definitely prioritize more prestigious competitions like the european league. and on the one hand we also have to look at the advantages of playing at home.
Liverpool defeat for me is not too disappointing even though Toulouse is not a strong team in League 1 but remember this is an open domestic league competition and Toulouse can be stronger in the european league and we also have to consider this match. Toulouse being the host gives very high confidence and enthusiasm much bigger and if you dont believe in home advantage you can look at the previous match when Liverpool as hosts beat Toulouse to the ground with a score of 5-1 and from my statement maybe you understand better.
so you dont need to be too disappointed with Liverpool performance yesterday because the match almost ended in a draw.
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November 10, 2023, 12:40:31 AM
The defeat was not a disaster for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp had other focuses so he chose to play his reserve players, because winning the English Premier League match is currently much more important than winning all the matches in the European League group phase because they only need one win and with two matches remaining quite confident that Liverpool will be able to achieve one win to secure a place in the knockout rounds.
After many years as a coach, Klopp is experienced enough to know at the end of a season, titles mean much. How many matches a team won in a season does not make too much sense if no title at the end. He knows that to go far in a long season, he must use his players very smartly to help them reserve their feet, avoid injuries and have as best fitness as possible when a season comes to its ending and at toughest time.

One defeat always brings some negative feeling, disappointment but at the season ending, if Liverpool can lift the Europa Cup trophy or Premier League trophy, their fans will be very happy and today defeat will be forgotten.
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November 10, 2023, 12:33:22 AM
Replacing many key players should not be a reason because in terms of quality the Toulouse team is far below Liverpool and also in the domestic league the Toulouse team is in a slump right now and this is really a big surprise in this week's Europa League match, no one expected Liverpool to lose against the team. Toulouse, I lost a lot of my bets in this match.
In theory, it should be like that, playing more reserve players should not make Liverpool lose to Toulouse because the quality of the players is quite different, but the problem is that these players rarely or can even be said to never play as a team, they play more often when there are core players who have to be replaced in the middle of the match so it takes time to get cohesive as a team.
The defeat was not a disaster for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp had other focuses so he chose to play his reserve players, because winning the English Premier League match is currently much more important than winning all the matches in the European League group phase because they only need one win and with two matches remaining quite confident that Liverpool will be able to achieve one win to secure a place in the knockout rounds.
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November 09, 2023, 11:32:43 PM
I didn't watching the match between Toulouse vs Liverpool yesterday but only the highlight of this match and if we see from Liverpool starting lineup i think Liverpool a bit underestimate Toulouse because Klopp did some rotation to Liverpool squad because at least Liverpool was playing with 5 reserved players and it makes Liverpool performing poor and during the match Liverpool players made a lot of mistakes which make they have to lose with final scores 3-2 and this is dissapointing result because i expect they will being an the winner of this match and qualified early

For other matches Brighton has just open their chances to qualified because they were just successfully to overcomes Ajax and besides Liverpool we got other surprising result too yesterday because Roma just lose from Slavia Prague and among all teams in Europa league currently only Leverkusen who possibly to qualified early because after won from Qarabag they can collect 12 points and it makes them automatically qualified to round of 16

Liverpool is a club that has nine points from the three last matches they have played in this competition.  This is not underestimating but Kloop rotating his players so they can have a good timwhen they go to the Premier Leaguesince they failed to win the game against Luton Town. Klopp will not want that for the second time. Itbwas a food strategy honey that Toulouse players failed to allow that happen in front of the fans. The third goal should have count since var says no you move on.
Fati picking up form, he was able to score and assist his player in the second half to score. Mitoma was I'm the game but played very poor failed to pass the ball too many counter attacks.
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November 09, 2023, 11:08:32 PM
Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.
Liverpool did not underestimate Toulouse but they have bigger priority in this season. It's Premier League and in Europa League, one defeat against Toulouse does not affect their chance to be in a next round too much. Liverpool have experience with covering on many competitions and as consequences of such too big ambition and lack of proper resource allocation, they get many injuries for their players then the club performance affected too.

They learned some lessons and applied it in the match with Toulouse as they made good decisions to let their star players have one match to rest and come back stronger with better fitness.
Things like this really have to be done to maintain team stability, I think what Jürgen Klopp did was very right, the Liverpool team should not be stuck in just a few matches and they should be able to rotate players so that all competitions can play optimally.
IN the Europa League, Liverpool's chances of qualifying from the group are quite large, so in this match Liverpool did not field their main squad, not because they underestimated Toulouse, but all this was done for the good of the team and to maintain the stamina of the players so they don't get tired during the busy match schedule.
Liverpool must now be able to divide its focus between the Europa League and Premier League, therefore Kopp must be able to be astute and manage so that everything runs optimally.
I think Liverpool's defeat is normal, after all they have a very large percentage to qualify from the group.
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November 09, 2023, 09:20:27 PM
Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.
Liverpool did not underestimate Toulouse but they have bigger priority in this season. It's Premier League and in Europa League, one defeat against Toulouse does not affect their chance to be in a next round too much. Liverpool have experience with covering on many competitions and as consequences of such too big ambition and lack of proper resource allocation, they get many injuries for their players then the club performance affected too.

They learned some lessons and applied it in the match with Toulouse as they made good decisions to let their star players have one match to rest and come back stronger with better fitness.

Roma also made a pity result after their defeat by 2 goals to 0 vs Slavia Praha. Mourinho will make things harder for Roma if they will qualify second since they will go to play-offs..
Roma will not want to play another play-off but they will have a Rome derby this weekend that is important for their pride and ranking in Serie A. Perhaps Mourinho thought that Roma will still have good chance to complete this group at the first position with two last matches. Roma can win all last two matches in this group and wait for only one bad match from Slavia Prague to take the first position.
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November 09, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
I didn't watching the match between Toulouse vs Liverpool yesterday but only the highlight of this match and if we see from Liverpool starting lineup i think Liverpool a bit underestimate Toulouse because Klopp did some rotation to Liverpool squad because at least Liverpool was playing with 5 reserved players and it makes Liverpool performing poor and during the match Liverpool players made a lot of mistakes which make they have to lose with final scores 3-2 and this is dissapointing result because i expect they will being an the winner of this match and qualified early

For other matches Brighton has just open their chances to qualified because they were just successfully to overcomes Ajax and besides Liverpool we got other surprising result too yesterday because Roma just lose from Slavia Prague and among all teams in Europa league currently only Leverkusen who possibly to qualified early because after won from Qarabag they can collect 12 points and it makes them automatically qualified to round of 16
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November 09, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
the results of some games left me very surprised. I didn't expect Liverpool to lose, although the Liverpool coach chose to rotate players, I still saw great quality in the Liverpool squad that would be capable of coming out of this game with a victory, but to my shock they conceded 3 goals and lost. The saddest and most regrettable thing is that when we look at Liverpool's opponents and ask ourselves: who is Toulouse? so when we take a few minutes to research we see that toulouse is a team from the french league and that they are in position 14, in the last 5 games they played in the french league they only had 1 victory and when you look at liverpool's situation in the premier league, realized this direction and the person would be convinced that Liverpool had won. but in practice, on the field things were different. That's why betting on these games where it seems like the outcome is too obvious and still making multibet bets, the person loses more money that it's not even worth it to continue making multibet bets. It's enough to see that Roma also lost because Roma's coach went to rotate the players

the other results didn't have any surprises, it was expected that the favorite teams would win, but I'm sure that for people who made multibet bets they probably lost bets, because many people probably thought that liverpool and roma would win the game . Fortunately I didn't place bets on these games. After I lost my bet on the Champions League game, I decided to stop placing bets for a while. In any case, this defeat between Roma and Liverpool is not good for both teams. mainly because both teams have not yet guaranteed passage to another stage and have not secured first place in the group. I hope that in the next game they can win.

Some clubs were not playing so serious in this week. This really sucks for people who took multi bet. In my opinion, I believe that if any multi bettors were to choose Liverpool and Roma to win the game like me, they would have been disappointed by the outcome. This can be attributed to the coach's decision to use secondary squads instead of the main squad, which resulted in inconsistency and ultimately led to their loss. Many people were facing significant losses by the inconsistentcy from the coach.
The main problem if we didn't know so well when the coach will be using the secondary squad instead of main squad. Klopp and mourinho were really fucked us.
Those guys are shit this week. I hate them when they were not seriously intending to win the game against its opponents caused by they have been in the safe zone at this time.
You were not only who get fucked but me too. It was fucking dumb to see how liverpool loses against toulouse which was a worst club than luton.
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November 09, 2023, 06:49:31 PM
the results of some games left me very surprised. I didn't expect Liverpool to lose, although the Liverpool coach chose to rotate players, I still saw great quality in the Liverpool squad that would be capable of coming out of this game with a victory, but to my shock they conceded 3 goals and lost. The saddest and most regrettable thing is that when we look at Liverpool's opponents and ask ourselves: who is Toulouse? so when we take a few minutes to research we see that toulouse is a team from the french league and that they are in position 14, in the last 5 games they played in the french league they only had 1 victory and when you look at liverpool's situation in the premier league, realized this direction and the person would be convinced that Liverpool had won. but in practice, on the field things were different. That's why betting on these games where it seems like the outcome is too obvious and still making multibet bets, the person loses more money that it's not even worth it to continue making multibet bets. It's enough to see that Roma also lost because Roma's coach went to rotate the players

the other results didn't have any surprises, it was expected that the favorite teams would win, but I'm sure that for people who made multibet bets they probably lost bets, because many people probably thought that liverpool and roma would win the game . Fortunately I didn't place bets on these games. After I lost my bet on the Champions League game, I decided to stop placing bets for a while. In any case, this defeat between Roma and Liverpool is not good for both teams. mainly because both teams have not yet guaranteed passage to another stage and have not secured first place in the group. I hope that in the next game they can win.
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November 09, 2023, 06:28:04 PM
Liverpool was not underestimate toulouse but the club didn't wanna play seriously against toulouse. Take a look at the line up. Liverpool is still save at this moment caused by it was always collecting a lot of points but this sucks for the gamblers who expect liverpool to win today.

The lost of liverpool was unacceptable at this moment caused by it has become a crucial part of the game. No doubt that if many bettors are being so mad caused by this unfunny match.

Liverpool was just giving free points to the toulouse. The club has already qualified for the next round. Many people may be trapped with liverpool's bet and yeah sorry for their losses.

Roma probably did the same like liverpool as well considering the club has been getting perfect result since the first match.
In my perception Liverpool did not field their core squad in the first round which made them experience difficulties in this match. Salah played in the second half and if he had played from the first half Liverpool could have achieved the result they wanted in this match. Liverpool played quite well in the second half but it was a shame that they failed to perfect many opportunities in the second half. For Toulose they managed to win this match which was quite tough for them but they managed to get 3 points.

The additional 3 points made Toulouse improve their performance on the standing because they had widened the point difference to 3 point with the Union Saint team who were ranked 3rd.
For Liverpool, their defeat today does not have a bad impact because they are still leading the standings in Group E. But they must be able to win in the next match in order to qualify as group winner.
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November 09, 2023, 06:24:25 PM
We can't question the decision of the VAR rather I think the activities of the VAR should be checked always to ensure they don't keep making mistakes that will make football lovers not to trust their decisions again.
There have been a few erroneous decisions influenced by VAR, some for which there was apology, the others no apology. For that purpose, and people now knowing how possible that is, there is now little believe in the decisions second checked by VAR. Liverpool supporters will talk about why they do not think their last minute goal should not have been canceled, but the decision did not take the referee time to decide, so if analyzed by professionals, it should be the right decision. Liverpool is one of the team that people expect should win this Europa competition and give Sevilla a challenge for it, this loss to Toulouse which was unexpected by them is a reminder to always take every game seriously regardless of the team they play in this competition.
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November 09, 2023, 06:08:34 PM
I think that it was really risky to bet on Liverpool today. Because they already started with 3 wins in 3 matches in the group right away. This made them reach a safe and comfortable position as well. In this kind of situations big teams are usually rotating their lineup quite much. We saw this from Liverpool as well today.

If the situation wasn't this comfortable for Liverpool in Group E then probably we would have seen players like Salah in the starting eleven to finish the job early. But here Klopp just wanted to make sure their important players rest well. However I still didn't expect a loss especially after Salah was in the match by the start of the second half.  Sad

Toulouse gave it their best shot in this game, Ngl. I didn't watch the game even though my money was on Liverpool and it's lost obviously but I heard from others that Liverpool was once again robbed by VAR. It's hearsay now until I see the highlights. Somehow I felt Liverpool was going to lose today but due to the fact that I'm always biased with my selection when it involves Liverpool, I still played it. The issue is not about resting players. Klopp usually rotates the squad to give players not getting enough PL time the opportunity to get some game time in. Most times, it's enough to finish the job but some days ir isn't. Today is one of such days.

The match between Toulouse and Liverpool was a game that got everyone disappointed because the outcome of the game was opposite of what was expected but the result ended in favor of the Toulouse team who fought so hard to make sure they beat Liverpool to ensure they stand the chances of qualifying to the next round of the competition I believe they deserve the win tonight because they needed it more since Liverpool's losing won't affect them since they already had 9 points from three wins and they won't be affected by the lost they got today since they still top the group so as expected they didn't play the game with their full squad. We can't question the decision of the VAR rather I think the activities of the VAR should be checked always to ensure they don't keep making mistakes that will make football lovers not to trust their decisions again.
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November 09, 2023, 06:00:57 PM
Liverpool made a mistake underestimating Toulouse. I didn't expect to see Liverpool being defeated that way with 3 goals to 2. Klopp put Salah and Jota in the field at the second half where the first was able to score after 8 minutes from joining the game.
Roma also made a pity result after their defeat by 2 goals to 0 vs Slavia Praha. Mourinho will make things harder for Roma if they will qualify second since they will go to play-offs..
Liverpool underestimating Toulouse was the key to there failure on today's match, I was extremely surprised the way Toulouse was performing, displaying so many tactics and skills which disorganized Liverpool strategy, however Toulouse knew that Salah will be a great threat to them so they make sure to tackle him very well and that's exactly what they did and it worked for them.

I never imagine the match will end like this because I was thinking the match is just a free 3 point for Liverpool but I never knew the outcome be like this. Perhaps Liverpool is not going to forget this wining easily because is going show them that underestimating people is not good.

Liverpool was not underestimate toulouse but the club didn't wanna play seriously against toulouse. Take a look at the line up. Liverpool is still save at this moment caused by it was always collecting a lot of points but this sucks for the gamblers who expect liverpool to win today.

The lost of liverpool was unacceptable at this moment caused by it has become a crucial part of the game. No doubt that if many bettors are being so mad caused by this unfunny match.

Liverpool was just giving free points to the toulouse. The club has already qualified for the next round. Many people may be trapped with liverpool's bet and yeah sorry for their losses.

Roma probably did the same like liverpool as well considering the club has been getting perfect result since the first match.
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November 09, 2023, 05:40:48 PM
Teams from the Premier League dominate today except Liverpool but yeah Liverpool are excluded because they are safe, while Brighton and West Ham still have to fight for a place in the group what is clear is that 3 teams from the Premier League will qualify for the next stage. There were also 2 teams from Ligue 1 who managed to take first place in the group Marseille and Rennes we know these 2 teams are in a strong group but they managed to secure it, these two teams must be watched out for they can surprise anyone.
Of all the teams that have the potential to qualify Sparta Prague from the Czech League can be called the underdog team their performance so far is quite satisfactory and they have a good defense, just look how they beat Roma today  with continuous attacks from various sides 19 shots 7 on target and 2 goals. Roma may have a reason for their poor performance but Sparta Prague confidence to continue attacking cannot be ignored.
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November 09, 2023, 05:28:47 PM
Liverpool's main problem in this game was with their defense line, the defense was too weak to hold the attackers especially the No.9 Thijs Dallinga who scored the second goal for Toulouse from penetrating the eighteen-yard box and the home base team Toulouse was running through Liverpool's men with such an ease which mounted so much pressure  on Liverpool back men and the goals become much before Liverpool got their consolation goal.

Crap result but looking at the starting lineup it isn’t a surprise. Klopp isn’t taking this competition seriously but the players out there were awful today. Toulouse showed much more desire and deserved to win.

However, the referee and VAR made a terrible decision to disallow a 97th minute equaliser for a handball on the halfway line about 5 phases before the goal was scored. I think that goes against UEFA VAR rules.


Yep, looking at what happened actually Liverpool seemed to want more rest for their players in this match and some young players were given the opportunity which made this a little less exciting for Liverpool even though they (young players) also played very well but flying hours are very important to support performance.
Other than that, they also don't have any problems despite losing this match as they remain comfortably at the top of the table in Group E.
Regardless of the result, I like what Klopp did in this match because these young players must be given more opportunities to strengthen their mentality and giving confidence in this prestigious match is important to make their spirits rise.
The result from today match shouldn't be something to worry over because that was the game plan by Klopp, to gamble with the match since it is not an important match, and I believe that this was his reason why he had to bench his key player and give the younger ones the opportunity to showcase theu talents even though it will lead to a loss.

Tonight was a great moment for Toulouse as they had the greatest victory in their life ever since the history of the club, and we can see that in them after the last goal was scored which was cancelled due to a hand ball that was made that les to the goal. I gave them the respect for winning Liverpool and scoring up to four goals in the match.
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November 09, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.

I think because Liverpool won with many goals in the first leg, that is what made Liverpool underestimate Toulouse today by benching some of their key players. But seriously, I think it later turned into a mistake for Liverpool because I don't think they expected Toulouse to perform like this and win the game. Understimating teams some time doesn't always make sense, because that is always the course the fail. What happened today is really bad because many people bet on Liverpool winning the game due to their last meeting with Toulouse, but today Liverpool really disappointed fans by losing to Toulouse. 

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Liverpool realized their mistake in the second half but then it was almost too late because Toulouse has use the opportunity the had and their home advantage to make sure they were goals ahead so if Liverpool would want to win they will first have to struggle with equalizing before they could win but sadly for Liverpool they had a weak defense today which couldn't keep Toulouse from getting more goals till they are able to equalize, this loss may have an effect on Liverpool's performance in the Europa this season.

Sometimes, after mistakes have been made in football, it is always hard to make corrections to the mistakes you have made, unless the team is just lucky. I really love the way Toulouse made use of the advantage and looked very strong and able to win the match today. I don't think people really think Toulouse will win today. But one thing in football is that sometimes even stronger teams do not underestimate weak teams. What will happen will still happen because sometimes football works with luck, and that is all.
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