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Quote from: CLS63 on November 09, 2023, 05:16:48 PM

I think that it was really risky to bet on Liverpool today. Because they already started with 3 wins in 3 matches in the group right away. This made them reach a safe and comfortable position as well. In this kind of situations big teams are usually rotating their lineup quite much. We saw this from Liverpool as well today.

If the situation wasn't this comfortable for Liverpool in Group E then probably we would have seen players like Salah in the starting eleven to finish the job early. But here Klopp just wanted to make sure their important players rest well. However I still didn't expect a loss especially after Salah was in the match by the start of the second half. Sad

Toulouse gave it their best shot in this game, Ngl. I didn't watch the game even though my money was on Liverpool and it's lost obviously but I heard from others that Liverpool was once again robbed by VAR. It's hearsay now until I see the highlights. Somehow I felt Liverpool was going to lose today but due to the fact that I'm always biased with my selection when it involves Liverpool, I still played it. The issue is not about resting players. Klopp usually rotates the squad to give players not getting enough PL time the opportunity to get some game time in. Most times, it's enough to finish the job but some days ir isn't. Today is one of such days.

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Seems Ansu Fati is finding himself back after a wonderful performance today, he scored and assisted in their 2-0 win against Ajax who have lost their form. Ansu Fati has the talent but after his injury he hasn’t been at his peak but i hope he finds himself and redeem himself once more.

Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2023, 05:16:27 PM

Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.

I am really surprised seeing Liverpool lose to Toulouse who have been struggling recently, they lost their last 3 matches and despite the drop in confidence they were able to win Liverpool. I almost believed that Liverpool have found their rhythm and winning ways back because they have not lost a match in more than 6 weeks now even though their last match with Luton Town ended as a draw they deserved better.

From the starting lineup Kloop used in the match it shows that he underestimated his opponent and it backfired, though despite the loss he still tops the group and proceeding to the next round is already guaranteed. Most of these small clubs cannot be underestimated especially when they play at home they can be highly spirited and can put up a good fight.

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Quote from: snipie on November 09, 2023, 05:13:04 PM

Quote from: Alpha Marine on November 09, 2023, 04:27:13 PM

I don't think Liverpool expected an easy game. They just decided to rotate their squad and focus on the premier league. They already have 9 points in the group and still have 2 games to play so they're not in any risk at all. It's a calculated risk that's worth taking
Liverpool needs to put more pressure on Tottenham and Man City in the league. I didn't expect Liverpool to lose but i also knew it was going to be a difficult match for Liverpool.
Toulouse has not been in good form recently, they are struggling both in the league and Europa. After the trashing Liverpool gave them in the first leg, I knew the second leg would be tougher. Nobody likes losing, but thd loss won't affect Liverpool much.

Liverpool made a mistake underestimating Toulouse. I didn't expect to see Liverpool being defeated that way with 3 goals to 2. Klopp put Salah and Jota in the field at the second half where the first was able to score after 8 minutes from joining the game.
Roma also made a pity result after their defeat by 2 goals to 0 vs Slavia Praha. Mourinho will make things harder for Roma if they will qualify second since they will go to play-offs..

Exactly, I notice that because if Liverpool needed this match they should have started with their full squad but they didn't because they don't want to risk their players too much because they are fighting for the Premier League trophy this season and in the next two weeks after they play against Brentford they will face Manchester City in the Premier League and that will be a very tough game for both of them because Manchester City and Liverpool are in good form this season and they will like to win the match.

I am sure they defeated Liverpool because they have qualified for the next round of the Europa League and this is their first loss in the group stage, Bayern Leverkusen is just in a good position this season they don't want to lose any matches, and they haven't lost any matches in the group stage in the Europa League, I believe they will win all of the remaining games because they are playing well. Bayern Leverkusen has a chance to win the Europa League because they are the only team in all groups that has not lost or drawn a match in the competition.

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Liverpool's main problem in this game was with their defense line, the defense was too weak to hold the attackers especially the No.9 Thijs Dallinga who scored the second goal for Toulouse from penetrating the eighteen-yard box and the home base team Toulouse was running through Liverpool's men with such an ease which mounted so much pressure on Liverpool back men and the goals become much before Liverpool got their consolation goal.

Crap result but looking at the starting lineup it isn’t a surprise. Klopp isn’t taking this competition seriously but the players out there were awful today. Toulouse showed much more desire and deserved to win.

However, the referee and VAR made a terrible decision to disallow a 97th minute equaliser for a handball on the halfway line about 5 phases before the goal was scored. I think that goes against UEFA VAR rules.

Yep, looking at what happened actually Liverpool seemed to want more rest for their players in this match and some young players were given the opportunity which made this a little less exciting for Liverpool even though they (young players) also played very well but flying hours are very important to support performance.
Other than that, they also don't have any problems despite losing this match as they remain comfortably at the top of the table in Group E.
Regardless of the result, I like what Klopp did in this match because these young players must be given more opportunities to strengthen their mentality and giving confidence in this prestigious match is important to make their spirits rise.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2023, 05:16:27 PM

Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.

And one of the goals that Liverpool got was OG. Ha ha
This is really funny, I think Liverpool can be successful in this Europe League, because after all, their opponents are not the toughest, what that means is Liverpool should be above them. However, sometimes, a club's consistency changes, especially if there are indications. Underestimation. This is really dangerous for a club. Even Liverpool dominated the match, but that wasn't enough because their accuracy was quite poor here. Liverpool's defeat this time was quite embarrassing.

Likewise with AS Roma. Somehow they were pretty bad this time too. Even AS Roma was unable to score a single goal in this match. This is really disappointing. Moreover, they also look depressed and unable to explore further. Not only that, in fact, Slavia Prague turned out to be stronger and more accurate on the front lines. And they also acted consistently in this match.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 09, 2023, 05:16:48 PM

I think that it was really risky to bet on Liverpool today. Because they already started with 3 wins in 3 matches in the group right away. This made them reach a safe and comfortable position as well. In this kind of situations big teams are usually rotating their lineup quite much. We saw this from Liverpool as well today.

Liverpool are in a more safer position than West Ham who have been held goalless by the brilliance particularly of the Olympiacos goalkeeper Alexandros Paschalakis who has made many important and good save in this game to deny West Ham any goal. It is now very frustrating both for the coach and players because for the players of West Ham, they look to have done their best and then their coach David Moyes like he is trying to formulate a new strategy to beat this Olympiacos defense. Olympiacos look like they can use just a chance if they get it again, West Ham as they try to score should not neglect defending not to concede from the Olympaicos attackers.

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Quote from: snipie on November 09, 2023, 05:13:04 PM

Liverpool made a mistake underestimating Toulouse. I didn't expect to see Liverpool being defeated that way with 3 goals to 2. Klopp put Salah and Jota in the field at the second half where the first was able to score after 8 minutes from joining the game.
Roma also made a pity result after their defeat by 2 goals to 0 vs Slavia Praha. Mourinho will make things harder for Roma if they will qualify second since they will go to play-offs..

Liverpool underestimating Toulouse was the key to there failure on today's match, I was extremely surprised the way Toulouse was performing, displaying so many tactics and skills which disorganized Liverpool strategy, however Toulouse knew that Salah will be a great threat to them so they make sure to tackle him very well and that's exactly what they did and it worked for them.

I never imagine the match will end like this because I was thinking the match is just a free 3 point for Liverpool but I never knew the outcome be like this. Perhaps Liverpool is not going to forget this wining easily because is going show them that underestimating people is not good.

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I think that it was really risky to bet on Liverpool today. Because they already started with 3 wins in 3 matches in the group right away. This made them reach a safe and comfortable position as well. In this kind of situations big teams are usually rotating their lineup quite much. We saw this from Liverpool as well today.

If the situation wasn't this comfortable for Liverpool in Group E then probably we would have seen players like Salah in the starting eleven to finish the job early. But here Klopp just wanted to make sure their important players rest well. However I still didn't expect a loss especially after Salah was in the match by the start of the second half. Sad

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Liverpool made the mistake of underestimating Toulouse from the beginning of the game, they started the first half sluggishly probably with the mind set that they were playing a week team and will be able to win them regardless of what will happen and before they know they were a goal behind.

Liverpool realized their mistake in the second half but then it was almost too late because Toulouse has use the opportunity the had and their home advantage to make sure they were goals ahead so if Liverpool would want to win they will first have to struggle with equalizing before they could win but sadly for Liverpool they had a weak defense today which couldn't keep Toulouse from getting more goals till they are able to equalize, this loss may have an effect on Liverpool's performance in the Europa this season.

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Liverpool's main problem in this game was with their defense line, the defense was too weak to hold the attackers especially the No.9 Thijs Dallinga who scored the second goal for Toulouse from penetrating the eighteen-yard box and the home base team Toulouse was running through Liverpool's men with such an ease which mounted so much pressure on Liverpool back men and the goals become much before Liverpool got their consolation goal.

Crap result but looking at the starting lineup it isn’t a surprise. Klopp isn’t taking this competition seriously but the players out there were awful today. Toulouse showed much more desire and deserved to win.

However, the referee and VAR made a terrible decision to disallow a 97th minute equaliser for a handball on the halfway line about 5 phases before the goal was scored. I think that goes against UEFA VAR rules.

Liverpool was very confident when they started the match with several player rotations. They didn't look serious about winning the match as Klopp gave many of his main players rest on the bench. The match went according to plan where Liverpool really dominated, but the result was not what they wanted. Toulouse closed the first half with the score 1-0 and they scored two more goals in the second half as Liverpool tried to avoid defeat.

There was nothing special about this match apart from how easily the referee disallowed Jarell Amorin Quansah's goal in injury time. Even though they lost, Liverpool seems to be close to being safe in qualifying for the next round. They only need a draw or one more win to qualify, so it won't be difficult for them if they field their full strength.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on November 09, 2023, 04:27:13 PM

I don't think Liverpool expected an easy game. They just decided to rotate their squad and focus on the premier league. They already have 9 points in the group and still have 2 games to play so they're not in any risk at all. It's a calculated risk that's worth taking
Liverpool needs to put more pressure on Tottenham and Man City in the league. I didn't expect Liverpool to lose but i also knew it was going to be a difficult match for Liverpool.
Toulouse has not been in good form recently, they are struggling both in the league and Europa. After the trashing Liverpool gave them in the first leg, I knew the second leg would be tougher. Nobody likes losing, but thd loss won't affect Liverpool much.

Liverpool made a mistake underestimating Toulouse. I didn't expect to see Liverpool being defeated that way with 3 goals to 2. Klopp put Salah and Jota in the field at the second half where the first was able to score after 8 minutes from joining the game.
Roma also made a pity result after their defeat by 2 goals to 0 vs Slavia Praha. Mourinho will make things harder for Roma if they will qualify second since they will go to play-offs..

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Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2023, 03:09:55 PM

Liverpool is under performing in this match nd it's really disturbing, Salah isn't in the match and some other players, I don't know why klop decided to play with their set of players, they appear sluggish and are not looking like they will be able to get three point from this game.

They are currently down by two goals already and they are few minutes into the second half of the game I don't know if it will be possible Liverpool pulls up a come back and win tonight although it's looking like they still have some more time but Toulouse is strengthen their defense line to make sure they don't concede any goal or draw to Liverpool, I hope klop make the necessary changes and bring in player that will be able to help change the game and get a draw at least.

Too much lamenting from the reds tonight we have seen three to four goals cancelled by the match officials. All these are goals scored by Toulouse tonight. They finally scored to send Liverpool crying.

Liverpool has no defense, honestly Joe Matip is not a player no more, how did Klopp eve use him in a match he wants to win to get qualified for the round of sixteen?
Toulouse number nine is good he has good goal scoring skills and close control he could make a good signature in the Premier League.
There was no communication between the defenders and goalkeeper else they wouldn't have scored that goal which was even strucked by Toulouse's defender into goal.

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And this game is the biggest surprise of the evening for me, because I never believe Liverpool will lose so blatantly to the french side because with the look of things, the score is now three goals to one in favor of the french team. I really thought Liverpool will win this game and also conceive that the weekend draw they had in the premier league will be rectify with a victory tonight but football is just unpredictable and the score has turned opposite of my prediction as Liverpool are currently losing by a whooping two goals deficit.

The game ended with Liverpool losing 3:2. I was shocked to see Liverpool lose, even though they were playing away. I had thought that after their Premier League draw against Luton Town, all of their attention would be directed toward their Europa match against Toulouse. However, I now realize that the reason for Liverpool's defeat was that Klopp did not start the game with his strongest players, choosing instead to started with the players that are not good enough. If not for Casseres' from Toulouse mistake, which resulted in an own goal, the game would have ended in a 3:1, which was a terrible end for Liverpool. Even Diogo Jota, who scored to make the score 3:2, was brought on in the 81st minute of play. Klopp did not organize the game well before it began, but I know why: they are leading the group already and defeated Toulouse 5:1 at home, thought it may be the same this night, so he refused to use the full starting squad. Nevertheless, if not for the Var checked, the game might have ended in a draw.

I played that Toulouse would score but didnt expect an easy win from them. Liverpool was unlucky in the end due to that var in the last minute. This wont make things much complicated for them but they still didnt secure the knockout faze but they just need one point and i think that will be easy.

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Roma, which continues their bad course under Mourinho, continues to lose. Today they lost to Slavia Prague and fell to 2nd place in the group. If they finish this group in this place, they will have to play a play-off match. This means 2 matches of extra burden for the team. They already had bad results in the Italian League and fell behind. If they cannot advance in Europe, it will be a bad season for them.

Toulouse beating Liverpool is everyone's main topic, but I don't think this result is a surprise. Toulouse's reason for participating in this tournament was to win the French Cup. They are at the last places of the French League. Normally, they wouldn't be able to play in the Europa League without a cup win. Therefore, while the players had the opportunity to showcase their talents in such a big showcase, they made the most of it. Even if there is a huge difference between the teams in terms of squad quality, there is an 11 vs 11 game on the field and the one with more appetite and enthusiasm gets the advantage. Congratulations to Toulouse.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on November 09, 2023, 03:25:20 PM

And this game is the biggest surprise of the evening for me, because I never believe Liverpool will lose so blatantly to the french side because with the look of things, the score is now three goals to one in favor of the french team. I really thought Liverpool will win this game and also conceive that the weekend draw they had in the premier league will be rectify with a victory tonight but football is just unpredictable and the score has turned opposite of my prediction as Liverpool are currently losing by a whooping two goals deficit.

The game ended with Liverpool losing 3:2. I was shocked to see Liverpool lose, even though they were playing away. I had thought that after their Premier League draw against Luton Town, all of their attention would be directed toward their Europa match against Toulouse. However, I now realize that the reason for Liverpool's defeat was that Klopp did not start the game with his strongest players, choosing instead to started with the players that are not good enough. If not for Casseres' from Toulouse mistake, which resulted in an own goal, the game would have ended in a 3:1, which was a terrible end for Liverpool. Even Diogo Jota, who scored to make the score 3:2, was brought on in the 81st minute of play. Klopp did not organize the game well before it began, but I know why: they are leading the group already and defeated Toulouse 5:1 at home, thought it may be the same this night, so he refused to use the full starting squad. Nevertheless, if not for the Var checked, the game might have ended in a draw.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on November 09, 2023, 04:21:25 PM

Liverpool lost the match on one goal different, despite the fact that one of their goals was disallowed as caused by of the VAR. If you look at the game statistics, it is evident that Liverpool played and had more possessions than Toulouse. Toulouse had few chances and used them well to score goals, whilst Liverpool had more chances but failed to convert any of them despite having 5 shots on goal. Liverpool is still on top of the standings with 9 points after this game. Today was simply an unlucky day for them, as they were defeated at home by this team in the second leg. They each have two more matches to play, if both of them can win the matches, they will get qualification to the knockout phase of the competition.

At first, mere watching the lineup and first half, there was strong evidence about the home team winning because they had solidable attempts on goal and they never relents. Carles Martínez is an important figure in Toulouse and his strategy have aided the club to be in winning shape despite them facing few difficulties this season. Toulouse was victorious over Liverpool and they didn't hold back, rather they sets good records to withstand the pressure from the visitors who pull few threat. Toulouse didn't come to dominates the game, they had other plans to explores which they actually achieved.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 09, 2023, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: Franctoshi on November 09, 2023, 04:10:33 PM

Liverpool's main problem in this game was with their defense line, the defense was too weak to hold the attackers especially the No.9 Thijs Dallinga who scored the second goal for Toulouse from penetrating the eighteen-yard box and the home base team Toulouse was running through Liverpool's men with such an ease which mounted so much pressure on Liverpool back men and the goals become much before Liverpool got their consolation goal.

Crap result but looking at the starting lineup it isn’t a surprise. Klopp isn’t taking this competition seriously but the players out there were awful today. Toulouse showed much more desire and deserved to win.

However, the referee and VAR made a terrible decision to disallow a 97th minute equaliser for a handball on the halfway line about 5 phases before the goal was scored. I think that goes against UEFA VAR rules.

That whole thing with the handball was weird. The ball hit the dude's hand way before Liverpool scored, so we were all just wondering if the ref was gonna call it back or not. Crazy how long it took them to make the decision! But in the end, as much as it sucked for Liverpool, the ref made the right call. Even though their players and fans were super pissed and disappointed the handball happened first so the goal didn't count. It was the right decision, imho.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on November 09, 2023, 03:59:37 PM

Liverpool expected an easy game, rested major players, but had a difficult game. I have to applaud them though because to me, they are the best come back team this season, and had VAR not saved Toulouse in the final minutes, this would have been another great comeback headline for them like they did in the weekend against Luton in the premier league. The game was 2-0, then 2-1, then 3-1, then 3-2, then 3-3 and ended 3-2 finally. Toulouse did well to find their way through the Liverpool defense to score as they did many times counting the goals that they scored that was cancelled. If they had not scored many goals and maybe just settled with the first goal they scored and tried to defend it, Liverpool would have won this game.

I don't think Liverpool expected an easy game. They just decided to rotate their squad and focus on the premier league. They already have 9 points in the group and still have 2 games to play so they're not in any risk at all. It's a calculated risk that's worth taking
Liverpool needs to put more pressure on Tottenham and Man City in the league. I didn't expect Liverpool to lose but i also knew it was going to be a difficult match for Liverpool.
Toulouse has not been in good form recently, they are struggling both in the league and Europa. After the trashing Liverpool gave them in the first leg, I knew the second leg would be tougher. Nobody likes losing, but thd loss won't affect Liverpool much.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2023, 03:09:55 PM

Liverpool is under performing in this match nd it's really disturbing, Salah isn't in the match and some other players, I don't know why klop decided to play with their set of players, they appear sluggish and are not looking like they will be able to get three point from this game.

They are currently down by two goals already and they are few minutes into the second half of the game I don't know if it will be possible Liverpool pulls up a come back and win tonight although it's looking like they still have some more time but Toulouse is strengthen their defense line to make sure they don't concede any goal or draw to Liverpool, I hope klop make the necessary changes and bring in player that will be able to help change the game and get a draw at least.

Liverpool lost the match on one goal different, despite the fact that one of their goals was disallowed as caused by of the VAR. If you look at the game statistics, it is evident that Liverpool played and had more possessions than Toulouse. Toulouse had few chances and used them well to score goals, whilst Liverpool had more chances but failed to convert any of them despite having 5 shots on goal. Liverpool is still on top of the standings with 9 points after this game. Today was simply an unlucky day for them, as they were defeated at home by this team in the second leg. They each have two more matches to play, if both of them can win the matches, they will get qualification to the knockout phase of the competition.

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The final result was far from the expectations of many in the community, including me, for the Liverpool match. but as I said before, Klopp will not play the main starting eleven. Only after the second half, Klopp responded quickly to catch up with them by playing his core players. but still, the result was that the home team won this match with a score of 3-2. At the start, I said that there wouldn't be many goals in this game. However, there are 2 options that can be chosen as bets. firstly, Under 3+ and secondly the handicap option. Unfortunately for me, I chose under.

In another match, Slavia Prague vs Roma, Roma was beaten 2-0 by the home team. and I'm quite sure, many people will lose if they follow the bets presented by the Europa League. As for Leverkusen, they narrowly won with the luck of getting a penalty in the final minutes. As a result, in 4 matches they progressed smoothly. Brighton, according to my analysis, at least they will win this match by scoring at least 2 goals. Yep, Ajax fell at their own headquarters with a final score of 2-0.
Now, I only have one prediction for the match that has just started, namely AEK vs Marseille. my estimation, Marseille is capable of overthrowing the home team.

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