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November 03, 2023, 10:26:58 PM
Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
It's because of psychology.

People always forecast anything base on the history, so they think Real Madrid is the strongest team in UCL and Sevilla is the strongest team in UEL. The luck that those teams have in the past seasons make they think Real Madrid and Sevilla will have a same luck in the future.

It's correct a new strong team might challenge them, but not every time.

That's what I think as well, but it's bad that people draw these weak conclusions. Experience plays a role and that is why teams who have won a title before can indeed have some kind of resistance in difficult situations during a game that other, unexperienced teams might not have. But all of that is worth nothing when you get destroyed by a team that is simply better like we have seen in the Champions League. Sevilla had a remarkable Europa League season, but they won't repeat it. Nominating them as the favorite if they get eliminated from the Champions League seems irrational to me.

And if we think about psychology, we can also say that Real Madrid is superior going into the Champions League because they have a very good record in the competition. So that puts them at a psychological advantage against other teams. But we all know that psychology is not everything. If you cannot actually perform in the field, psychology is not going to matter too much. First of all, you have to believe that you can win. And after that, you have to put in the best effort. Anyway, it is not impossible for a young club to give teams like Real Madrid a goat competition. But I also agree that it is not going to happen every time.
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November 03, 2023, 09:46:26 PM
I hope Ajax improves well enough after the win the just got over the week,so far in the Europa they have not been really good aswell, although they have lost only one out of the three game played so far, they have won non too, which I don't see as an encouraging result well enough. I doubt if they will be able to win the next three matches they have to play just before the group stage will be over, and if they fail to win these three remaining matches, they are definitely crashing out at the group stage, we hope they improve soonest.

I think it is impossible for Ajax to win the remaining 3 games. From Group B, I think the ones who have the potential to qualify for the next round are Marseille and Brighton. Ajax is 3 points behind first place and 2 points behind second and third place. If you look at the remaining 3 matches, the maximum points that Ajax can get is 11 points, and I think it is very difficult to get a win against Brighton or Marseille.
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November 03, 2023, 09:41:37 PM
If Ajax is able to get pass the group stage with their current form I think they will deserve to be applauded, thy have so far won only one game in the eredivisie, they were really struggling to come out of relegation as it became their primary obligation at the moment.

I hope Ajax improves well enough after the win the just got over the week,so far in the Europa they have not been really good aswell, although they have lost only one out of the three game played so far, they have won non too, which I don't see as an encouraging result well enough. I doubt if they will be able to win the next three matches they have to play just before the group stage will be over, and if they fail to win these three remaining matches, they are definitely crashing out at the group stage, we hope they improve soonest.
Every club passes through this crucial stage, and they still recover, but in the case of Ajax, just hoped they will bounce back this season. An elite team like Ajax fighting a realistic battle, having no style or pattern of game. Ajax have no confidence in qualifying for next Europa round because they're bottom group B with just 2 points earned. Ajax are in their worst form currently and there's absolutely nothing so good about the present squad. Consistently having poor results in games and in the Eredivisie campaign, they're fighting relegation battle for the purpose to stay in the league.
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November 03, 2023, 04:56:26 PM
In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.
If Ajax is able to get pass the group stage with their current form I think they will deserve to be applauded, thy have so far won only one game in the eredivisie, they were really struggling to come out of relegation as it became their primary obligation at the moment.

I hope Ajax improves well enough after the win the just got over the week,so far in the Europa they have not been really good aswell, although they have lost only one out of the three game played so far, they have won non too, which I don't see as an encouraging result well enough. I doubt if they will be able to win the next three matches they have to play just before the group stage will be over, and if they fail to win these three remaining matches, they are definitely crashing out at the group stage, we hope they improve soonest.
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November 03, 2023, 04:00:19 PM
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In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.

It's not time for AJax to ignore their chances in the Europa League, even if they only have 2 points from 3 matches. Ajax still has hopes of qualifying for the next round even though Marseille, AEK Athens and Brighton are currently ahead on points. Everything can change quickly, especially if Ajax is able to improve the quality of its game in the next 3 matches.

In group F, Villareal, who represents La Liga, also still has a chance of winning a ticket to the next round even though they are currently in 3rd position. The difference in points between second and third place is not much, so I still think they shouldn't lose focus so quickly to hoping to qualify for the next round.
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November 03, 2023, 03:43:12 PM
After being at the bottom of the Eredivisie standings last week, this time Ajax won for the second time in the 9 matches they played, collecting 8 points and now they are in 15th position in the standings. I think it would be better for them to focus more on winning at domestic level, because I really doubt they will qualify for the round of 16 from group B. Marseille and brighton are the strongest candidates to qualify, although AEK athens could make a surprise.
In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.
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November 03, 2023, 03:24:20 PM
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.

However, it seems that this plan will not be easy for Sevilla to carry out. Maintaining third place in the Champions League group phase is not easy, especially if Sevilla falls when they host Arsenal on the fourth matchday. especially if PSV is able to overthrow Lens in the same disat. The drama in the Group B phase is quite unique. Likewise Lens, who definitely wants to win their match against PSV.

On the other hand, PSV will go all out to win the match. because after all, the condition of these three teams is not any better. So, it's not certain that Sevilla will get a ticket to the Europa League. It could be that another team has more rights than Sevilla. After all, we still don't know the end of the Champions League group stage.
However, Sevilla has a historical record in this competition. Apart from that, the problem is that Sevilla is really underperforming. Previously, Mendilibar was really lucky to be able to win the Europa League trophy even though in fact, their performance was really not ideal for me personally. The question is, can their new coach Diego Alonso make it happen. Well, we'll find out after the Champions League group phase is over.

Talking about the other three teams you mentioned, especially Liverpool and Leverkusen. This team is now very different, even with the team squad. even based on the performance of these teams, it is the opposite of Sevilla. We'll see the point, because it's not certain that Sevilla will be as lucky as last season.
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November 03, 2023, 03:23:52 PM
Ajax will probably lose to Brighton once again no matter they play a home match. They shouldn't divide their concentration on the Eredivisie and Europa League right now. They don't have the luxury of doing that. Because they are even near the relegation area in the Eredivisie. They can't risk their future in the league.

Ajax are a mess now and trying to get rid of this situation. There is a huge difference between Erik ten Hag era and this one. I guess it wouldn't come to their relegation from their domestic league. However they had better create a solution as soon as possible.
After being at the bottom of the Eredivisie standings last week, this time Ajax won for the second time in the 9 matches they played, collecting 8 points and now they are in 15th position in the standings. I think it would be better for them to focus more on winning at domestic level, because I really doubt they will qualify for the round of 16 from group B. Marseille and brighton are the strongest candidates to qualify, although AEK athens could make a surprise.

There may be a lot of questions regarding ajax performance this season, the difference in their performance is very clear from last season. The victory over volendam must be a turning point in their performance, if they don't want the situation to get even worse in the next match.
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November 03, 2023, 02:51:24 PM
Ajax will probably lose to Brighton once again no matter they play a home match. They shouldn't divide their concentration on the Eredivisie and Europa League right now. They don't have the luxury of doing that. Because they are even near the relegation area in the Eredivisie. They can't risk their future in the league.

Ajax are a mess now and trying to get rid of this situation. There is a huge difference between Erik ten Hag era and this one. I guess it wouldn't come to their relegation from their domestic league. However they had better create a solution as soon as possible.
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November 03, 2023, 01:25:15 PM
Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League this season has not been too bad for them as they are dreaming of winning the Europa League title as they miss out on the Champions League. Even if Liverpool qualified for the Champions League this season, they could not do much in the Champions League because there are already tough opponents in the Champions League that Liverpool could not do much by fighting against tough opponents. Liverpool qualified for the Europa League for the first time this season and are heavy favorites to win the Europa League tournament for the first time this season. Liverpool will certainly not want to miss the opportunity to achieve something new. Liverpool's current team is in good form, so Liverpool will certainly want to take advantage of that opportunity to take home the Europa League tournament title for the first time.
If Liverpool had qualified for the champions league, they wouldn't do poorly, because their current form is such that they would be able to face tough teams regardless because even in the premier league they aswell face tough teams such as Manchester city and others.

They are doing really well in the premier league as they are at the fourth position on the table. They have lost only one game so far in the premier league and have lost none in the Europa so they are definitely not a weak side and will do well if they had qualified for the UCL but hopefully they will next season but for now I think they are more focused on the Europa where they have more chances than in the premier league, klop is definitely doing all he could to win the Europa as last time he was very close but lost that opportunity and wouldn't do same with this.
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November 03, 2023, 12:42:11 PM
Sevilla are currently in the third position of the group B in the UEFA Champions League competition and are currently three points behind second placed Lens. They play their next game at home to PSV which I think they stand a better chance of winning the game to still maintain the third place position. Sevilla's overall performance this season has been below average and that's why I don't think they'll do well if they happen to progress to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition.
So if they can hang on and finish in the third place which automatically qualifies them to the knockout stages of the UEFA Europa League , there's every possiblity of the the competition which they're are the most successful club in.
That is what they do to keep their fans happy basically. They are not good enough to win the title at La Liga because there are teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona, and if not them then Athletico Madrid, so Sevilla could only hope for a fourth place and by the looks of it they haven't done that in a long time neither, they gave up on the league long time ago and doesn't seem like it is doing all that greatly. I feel like the best thing we could guess right now would be just let them be, and just hope that it could kick in whenever.

I think it is going to be a hard process for them to finish third, but if they can manage to do that then it is very well possible that they could end up with a situation where they would keep the fans happy by going further. Not saying they will be able to win europa this season too, but they could at least do quarter finals, semi finals or something, even losing at finals is something. That makes them say "we did something this year at least" to the fans.
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November 03, 2023, 12:30:50 PM
Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
It's because of psychology.

People always forecast anything base on the history, so they think Real Madrid is the strongest team in UCL and Sevilla is the strongest team in UEL. The luck that those teams have in the past seasons make they think Real Madrid and Sevilla will have a same luck in the future.

It's correct a new strong team might challenge them, but not every time.

That's what I think as well, but it's bad that people draw these weak conclusions. Experience plays a role and that is why teams who have won a title before can indeed have some kind of resistance in difficult situations during a game that other, unexperienced teams might not have. But all of that is worth nothing when you get destroyed by a team that is simply better like we have seen in the Champions League. Sevilla had a remarkable Europa League season, but they won't repeat it. Nominating them as the favorite if they get eliminated from the Champions League seems irrational to me.
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November 03, 2023, 12:00:49 PM
Already I know that's the game plan of sevilla since they know that they perform better in the Europa league so they would rather prefer to go and play in the Europa league, they are always good whenever they are in the Europa league than champions league and I believe if they move to the Europa league they are really gonna do well so instead of reaching the round of 16 in champions league and not moving further they had rather be in Europa where they are conversant with and play to the best of their ability.
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.
Every one talking about Sevilla and their plan for the another UEFA Europa Cup with I am also having same feeling but many times things can go into wrong way for any team because every time we have desired result it's never been possible.

This year we have few impressive teams into Europa Cup which can change the history as well with Sevilla is surely having not ideal squad as well because they are facing financial issues, and they are surely in deep trouble which can make things worst for their desire of another cup.

Right now, three top teams are at their best and after exit from Champions League who is going to join them another point which will give clear picture about this season's winner in this prestigious winner.
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November 03, 2023, 11:26:24 AM
Leverkusen, and Liverpool's Europa League qualification has been a problem for other teams. Liverpool is always a champion league team and Liverpool is also a strong team in English Premier League but they have qualified for Europa League this season so it is a bit difficult for other Europa League teams to plan against Liverpool. Leverkusen, and Liverpool may qualify for the Champions League next season but the other teams will miss out on winning the Europa League this season as either Liverpool won the Europa League trophy this season or Leverkusen does. Comparing the two teams, I see Liverpool more likely to win the Europa League tournament title this season.

Liverpool indeed belong to the Champions League normally. But their performance in the Premier League wasn't impressive last season. It was quite late when they started to make improvement and they ended up with the Europa League afterwards. Currently they are in good shape unlike that season.

Their priority would be to be competitive for the Premier League title of course. However I still don't expect them to have any concentration issues in the Europa League either.

They have a good opportunity ahead to win a title so I think they would go for it. Klopp would do some rotation from time to time to deal with a tight schedule but they would still stay strong I believe.
Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League this season has not been too bad for them as they are dreaming of winning the Europa League title as they miss out on the Champions League. Even if Liverpool qualified for the Champions League this season, they could not do much in the Champions League because there are already tough opponents in the Champions League that Liverpool could not do much by fighting against tough opponents. Liverpool qualified for the Europa League for the first time this season and are heavy favorites to win the Europa League tournament for the first time this season. Liverpool will certainly not want to miss the opportunity to achieve something new. Liverpool's current team is in good form, so Liverpool will certainly want to take advantage of that opportunity to take home the Europa League tournament title for the first time.
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November 03, 2023, 11:21:36 AM
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.

I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.

But in reality, basically last season Sevilla were not completely favorites towin the Europa League final. Because ya, considering that last season Sevilla experienced bad results in La Liga, so with that factor basically last season Sevilla were not completely favourites. But the bad thing is, this season Sevilla is still not as good as expected, because Sevilla is also inconsistent again in La Liga and also in the Champions League which looks like Sevilla will repeat to finish in third place. But ya, at least the competition is still continuing and maybe, this season Sevilla will try to become group runners up in the Champions League. Because ya, if that happens then Sevilla will not play in the Europa League this season, because any result of course still has a chance of happening.
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November 03, 2023, 09:37:21 AM
Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
It's because of psychology.

People always forecast anything base on the history, so they think Real Madrid is the strongest team in UCL and Sevilla is the strongest team in UEL. The luck that those teams have in the past seasons make they think Real Madrid and Sevilla will have a same luck in the future.

It's correct a new strong team might challenge them, but not every time.
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November 03, 2023, 08:41:49 AM
We don't even know yet whether Sevilla would continue on their journey in the Europa League. But they are quite likely on one hand. If they get to the Europa League once again then my favourite contender for the title would definitely be them honestly. Because they have really been the most successful team in the Europa League for a long time.

I know there are teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma as other strongest contenders as well. Especially Liverpool would be the biggest threat to Sevilla in that case. But experience makes a big difference as we saw it from Sevilla previously in this tournament.

Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
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November 03, 2023, 08:26:59 AM
Sevilla is in third place in Group B in the Champions League with 2 points even though they still have 3 matches left. Maybe Sevilla will no longer be serious there and try to stay in 3rd place so they can go down to the Europa League.
Liverpool are not too worried about the opponents they will face, including Sevilla. Sevilla's strength is not as good as Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen at the moment.
Talking about Sevilla as if they will easily win the Europa League again if they fail to qualify from the group in the Champions League.

Already I know that's the game plan of sevilla since they know that they perform better in the Europa league so they would rather prefer to go and play in the Europa league, they are always good whenever they are in the Europa league than champions league and I believe if they move to the Europa league they are really gonna do well so instead of reaching the round of 16 in champions league and not moving further they had rather be in Europa where they are conversant with and play to the best of their ability.
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.
This season, Sevilla seems to be purposely going in the same direction as last year, trying to finish in third place and move on to the Europa League. They are clearly the best because they have seven trophies, but I am very suspicious. The fact that they are in UCL group B means that they can aim for more. Its beyond me why people are excited about the possibility of them going back to the Europa League. Insufferable for other teams that want to win, right? Strongly believe that Sevilla needs to rethink its approach and not just stick to what it knows. Competition is tough, especially from Liverpool, and Im worried about their road.
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November 03, 2023, 07:20:17 AM
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I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.
It seems difficult, but don't you consider that Sevilla still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 this season?
Sevilla are kings in the Europa League, of course because they always win the title every time they reach the final. It's almost the same as Real Madrid in the Champions League final, when they get to the final then they will most likely win it.
People were picking sevilla as the strongest team to win the europa league but they forget that if we have liverpool now. Liverpool was also able performing so well int he europa league as well. This club is even far better compared with sevilla at this moment. I think that the chance owned by liverpool to win the trophy is far greater compared with sevilla. Im all in liverpool to win europa league even though i don't know yet what clubs will come from UCl.


Liverpool are one of the favorites in the Europa League this season, but Roma, Atalanta and Leverkusen also seem to have a good chance. Several teams that will fall out of the Champions League can also be favourites, especially Sevilla, Manchester United, Newcastle or Dortmund if they fail.
It looks like people forgot that if there was a 6 times UCL winner in europa league this season. Liverpool is far better than sevilla. Sevilla does win europa league 7 times but liverpool has better quality and more UCL trophies than sevilla.
The chance owned by liverpool is far bigger than sevilla. I don't even think bookies will not be favoring liverpool to win the title this season.
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November 03, 2023, 06:05:37 AM
We don't even know yet whether Sevilla would continue on their journey in the Europa League. But they are quite likely on one hand. If they get to the Europa League once again then my favourite contender for the title would definitely be them honestly. Because they have really been the most successful team in the Europa League for a long time.

I know there are teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma as other strongest contenders as well. Especially Liverpool would be the biggest threat to Sevilla in that case. But experience makes a big difference as we saw it from Sevilla previously in this tournament.
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