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October 08, 2023, 03:30:53 PM
Current AS Roma result success managed to final stage last season seems reason why more favorite teams as the winner than Bayern Leverkusen, don't forget last season Leverkusen eliminated from Europe League by AS Roma. I am not really expected who will be the winner based of Europe League based on three favorite teams above from Liverpool, AS Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. I am waiting with Sevilla participants will get eliminated from Champion League and participants in Europe League or not? Based on Liverpool, AS Roma and Bayern Leverkusen I think Sevilla have bigger opportunity as most winner of Europe League than third teams above.
So much to discuss about Europa League but we should remained mute because the elite teams have proven themselves fully ready to take on each other when they finally qualify from group. Watching Europa League this season won't be boring rather a tough run. Europa League is definitely going to be more interesting this season because there's alot of stunning actions from these elite teams that failed to make it UEFA Champions League this season. With the presence of Liverpool, Westham united, Bayer Leverkusen and AS Roma, definitely a competitive race.
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October 08, 2023, 02:49:24 PM
I just can't accept AS Roma and Bayer Leverkusen, because I think in this season it was clear that Bayer Leverkusen had better quality than AS Roma. But yes, it seems like maybe because AS Roma have a better history that AS Roma are favored over Bayer Leverkusen . It does not matter at all because after all, of course, the consideration of such odds factors will also still not fully guarantee that they will still advance to the final match. But if we believe to choose and make a bet on them, then at least it will be a pretty good odds too if we start bet now.
Current AS Roma result success managed to final stage last season seems reason why more favorite teams as the winner than Bayern Leverkusen, don't forget last season Leverkusen eliminated from Europe League by AS Roma. I am not really expected who will be the winner based of Europe League based on three favorite teams above from Liverpool, AS Roma and Bayern Leverkusen. I am waiting with Sevilla participants will get eliminated from Champion League and participants in Europe League or not? Based on Liverpool, AS Roma and Bayern Leverkusen I think Sevilla have bigger opportunity as most winner of Europe League than third teams above.
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October 08, 2023, 02:16:49 PM
A lot of the results we have seen in the last season in the Europa League were not based on luck only. Manchester United played a horrible second game against Sevilla when they lost 3-0. The first game involved some luck when Sevilla scored 2 goals and was able to tie the game I think with an own goal as well. But the biggest shock was when Arsenal got eliminated. They were by far the biggest favorite and yet they got kicked out.

This season though the winner will probably have to beat Liverpool. I know that they have their bad games as well, but I think in the Europa League they will still be one of the hardest nuts to crack.
But when looking at the context at the beginning of the discussion I did this also did not refer to the favorite club because seeing from the conditions of the previous 2 seasons we even always see some big clubs who are the favorite champions for the Europa League but in the end the champions are unexpected clubs.
So when saying with certainty now that a club can immediately win even when the match has only started 2 times in the group phase even though it is good for confidence but it is not a certainty.
Because in the end there could be several other possibilities that occur even though Liverpool is strong but it is only one possibility for them to become champions not a sure thing as long as there is no proof until the end.

Yes yes, I am not arguing against you. In fact I am arguing like you, I agree with what you are saying.

There are some teams that seem to be the big favorites because we are aware of what they did in the past. Take Liverpool as an example and we all still think of those games against Barcelona in the Champions League and how they won the title in the end. But times have changed and Liverpool changed as well. They are not as stable anymore and in two games lots of good teams would have a chance against them. It is just a question of odds, but odds don't mean automatism. I would in most games think that Liverpool has slightly better chances to win, but as you said last season was proof enough that the favorites can be sent home pretty quickly one after another.
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October 08, 2023, 01:12:21 PM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley

I just can't accept AS Roma and Bayer Leverkusen, because I think in this season it was clear that Bayer Leverkusen had better quality than AS Roma. But yes, it seems like maybe because AS Roma have a better history that AS Roma are favored over Bayer Leverkusen . It does not matter at all because after all, of course, the consideration of such odds factors will also still not fully guarantee that they will still advance to the final match. But if we believe to choose and make a bet on them, then at least it will be a pretty good odds too if we start bet now.

The history doesn't count that much because when you take the games Leverkusen against Roma from last season as an example, it didn't really have anything to do with the history or experience that Roma had in the competition which Bayer Leverkusen was lacking. There are two reasons why Roma was able to to go to the next round against Leverkusen last season. The first reason was Leverkusen's inability to convert their chances into goals. That was a huge problem for them in both games. The second reason is that Roma got so unbelievably lucky that it was hard to believe what was happening on the screen. Leverkusen had dozens of shots and Roma was busy blocking attacks the whole game and they came out victorious.
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October 08, 2023, 12:55:29 PM
No one expected Sevilla to become champions last season and no one expected Rangers, Frankfurt to be in the final in this 2021/22 season and managed to beat big favorites like Barcelona on their way in the quarter-final and semi-final phases with defeat.
A series of surprises often occur in the Europ League so that to ensure from the beginning now the favorite club must win the Europa League is clearly very difficult to happen because in addition to performance sometimes the luck factor cannot be used.
Some of the big clubs for the Champions League especially one of the participants in Group F (Dortmund, Newcastle, PSG, and Milan) will definitely be in the Europa League and this will obviously be even more difficult because not only Liverpool the biggest club will be taken into account some of the big clubs that are out of the UCL also need to be taken into account.

A lot of the results we have seen in the last season in the Europa League were not based on luck only. Manchester United played a horrible second game against Sevilla when they lost 3-0. The first game involved some luck when Sevilla scored 2 goals and was able to tie the game I think with an own goal as well. But the biggest shock was when Arsenal got eliminated. They were by far the biggest favorite and yet they got kicked out.

This season though the winner will probably have to beat Liverpool. I know that they have their bad games as well, but I think in the Europa League they will still be one of the hardest nuts to crack.
But when looking at the context at the beginning of the discussion I did this also did not refer to the favorite club because seeing from the conditions of the previous 2 seasons we even always see some big clubs who are the favorite champions for the Europa League but in the end the champions are unexpected clubs.
So when saying with certainty now that a club can immediately win even when the match has only started 2 times in the group phase even though it is good for confidence but it is not a certainty.
Because in the end there could be several other possibilities that occur even though Liverpool is strong but it is only one possibility for them to become champions not a sure thing as long as there is no proof until the end.
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October 08, 2023, 12:39:41 PM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley
For some reason, I am still quite the favorite for Roma to win the European League title this season and looking at the odds, it is certainly very tempting when compared to Liverpool. I feel that Roma still have a grudge that must be avenged in order to win this title after last season they lost to Sevilla and as we know Roma's defeat in the final was like cheating. That's why they have a mission to try to win this title once again and Mourinho certainly really wants to present the title to the fans because they know competing to win the Scudetto is very difficult. Regarding Liverpool, they are actually not really focused on the European league title and their main goal is to get a top 4 place in the domestic league, but if they can win the title at the same time, this can be considered a bonus.
The latest news has been informing that if mourinho is not feeling confidence anymore in roma. he had also said if he is willing to make a move for saudi pro league. Roma is always performing inconsistently. I dunno how big the chance owned by this club to win europa league but it's unlikely this season. Roma is now different compared with last season. There is something wrong with roma right now. The club is not playing the same like what it used to be last season. Lukaku has become the only hope owned by roma.

Roma may not able to go to the final like last season. This season is going to be even harder with some world class club participated in the europa league. This will not be easy journey for lukaku and friends.
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October 08, 2023, 11:46:14 AM
Grin I think we won't be able to see Bayern from Leverkusen because they are from Munich  Wink
And in fact, the Bayer - Liverpool final would be good, but even if they meet in the 1/8 it will be good too - two games are better than one. As for the final, I would like to see at least Roma there, plus we need to see who will fall into the playoffs from the Champions League.

Liverpool didn't need to face leverkusen. it's caused by liverpool will obviously winning the game. The world class squads are not comparable with a good squad in the farmer league.
Roma is weak club now and he will out from europa league once it reaches play off. Liverpool will destroy everything.

Europa league is red.

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Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley

Extremely dubious quotes. The coefficient is too small. In general, I don’t see the point in such a bet until it is unclear who will get into the Europa League from the Champions League. The quotes of Roma and Leverkusen look adequate and I would even say attractive, but as I already wrote, it is better to wait until the 1/8 pairs are known.
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October 08, 2023, 11:40:59 AM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley

I just can't accept AS Roma and Bayer Leverkusen, because I think in this season it was clear that Bayer Leverkusen had better quality than AS Roma. But yes, it seems like maybe because AS Roma have a better history that AS Roma are favored over Bayer Leverkusen . It does not matter at all because after all, of course, the consideration of such odds factors will also still not fully guarantee that they will still advance to the final match. But if we believe to choose and make a bet on them, then at least it will be a pretty good odds too if we start bet now.
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October 08, 2023, 11:17:40 AM
No one expected Sevilla to become champions last season and no one expected Rangers, Frankfurt to be in the final in this 2021/22 season and managed to beat big favorites like Barcelona on their way in the quarter-final and semi-final phases with defeat.
A series of surprises often occur in the Europ League so that to ensure from the beginning now the favorite club must win the Europa League is clearly very difficult to happen because in addition to performance sometimes the luck factor cannot be used.
Some of the big clubs for the Champions League especially one of the participants in Group F (Dortmund, Newcastle, PSG, and Milan) will definitely be in the Europa League and this will obviously be even more difficult because not only Liverpool the biggest club will be taken into account some of the big clubs that are out of the UCL also need to be taken into account.

A lot of the results we have seen in the last season in the Europa League were not based on luck only. Manchester United played a horrible second game against Sevilla when they lost 3-0. The first game involved some luck when Sevilla scored 2 goals and was able to tie the game I think with an own goal as well. But the biggest shock was when Arsenal got eliminated. They were by far the biggest favorite and yet they got kicked out.

This season though the winner will probably have to beat Liverpool. I know that they have their bad games as well, but I think in the Europa League they will still be one of the hardest nuts to crack.
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October 08, 2023, 09:25:10 AM
It's still too early to say that, Liverpool is indeed a very strong team this season but what you have to remember is that this is the Europa League where surprises often occur every season, so I think it's not a certain thing for Liverpool even though they are the favourites.

In Europa League, you can’t tell who are the most preferable to win the league yet when they’re just in the group stage of the competition. Teams are coming from champions league to join them after the group stage, and some of them that come from champions league are usually big teams which aren’t lucky to get a qualification to the knockout stage of the champion league. When they join the Europa League, their performance their will now be used to quantify the overwhole teams and the one that will likely win the Europa League.

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And Roma also cannot be underestimated, they were finalists last year, although now their performance in the domestic league is inconsistent, but look at the quality of the Roma team, there has been an improvement and as long as Jose Mourinho is their coach, I think they should not be underestimated.

With Jose Mourinho been the manager of Roma, I still have a very big hope in them that they can also be a potential Europa League winner this season. Rating a team by their domestic league performance is not always the case now, they play differently in different leagues, so they have an advantage still in the Europa League title contenders this seasons amongst others.
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October 08, 2023, 09:15:12 AM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley
For some reason, I am still quite the favorite for Roma to win the European League title this season and looking at the odds, it is certainly very tempting when compared to Liverpool. I feel that Roma still have a grudge that must be avenged in order to win this title after last season they lost to Sevilla and as we know Roma's defeat in the final was like cheating. That's why they have a mission to try to win this title once again and Mourinho certainly really wants to present the title to the fans because they know competing to win the Scudetto is very difficult. Regarding Liverpool, they are actually not really focused on the European league title and their main goal is to get a top 4 place in the domestic league, but if they can win the title at the same time, this can be considered a bonus.
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October 08, 2023, 08:22:12 AM
It is not wrong to be confident but I just want to remind that this kind of words we often encounter even in the previous 2 seasons for some big clubs in the Europa League such as Barcelona, Juventus, Napoli, Arsenal and even Manchester United but it is precisely unexpected clubs like Frankfurt and Sevilla who end up becoming Champions in the Europa League. We should be able to take some examples from this because not all big clubs have luck in the Europa League.
Liverpool are the clear favorites for now in the Europa League but during the knockout phase I think it will be different because it is not impossible that there are other big clubs in the Europa League (exiles from the Champions League) and even unexpected clubs can become champions again.
That's right and I agree with your opinion, the Europa League is full of surprises and sometimes more surprises than the Champions League. Many did not expect that Sevilla had collected more Europa League trophies than other favorite clubs, it is not impossible that this season there will be another surprise. Even though I also predict that Liverpool really deserves to be in first place as favorites, the improvement in performance shown by Laverkusen is worth considering.

It is true that clubs that are eliminated from the Champions League group phase will be stronger, and will make the European League more competitive. However, this will only be visible after the UCL group phase is completed, and will add to the list of favorite clubs in the European League.
No one expected Sevilla to become champions last season and no one expected Rangers, Frankfurt to be in the final in this 2021/22 season and managed to beat big favorites like Barcelona on their way in the quarter-final and semi-final phases with defeat.
A series of surprises often occur in the Europ League so that to ensure from the beginning now the favorite club must win the Europa League is clearly very difficult to happen because in addition to performance sometimes the luck factor cannot be used.
Some of the big clubs for the Champions League especially one of the participants in Group F (Dortmund, Newcastle, PSG, and Milan) will definitely be in the Europa League and this will obviously be even more difficult because not only Liverpool the biggest club will be taken into account some of the big clubs that are out of the UCL also need to be taken into account.
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October 08, 2023, 06:59:39 AM
Honestly , Leverkusen is playing so smooth that I wouldn't be surprise to see them in the finals or even winning it because right now they seem to be one of the first candidates alongside Liverpool to win the trophy this year.

It would be great if we could see the final between Bayern Leverkusen vs Liverpool, right? I know it's still too early because when enter the knockout round everything can change a lot, and in that round teams can't make mistakes that could result in them being eliminated, but if the two favorite teams continue to perform well then this will be an ideal final and very interesting to watch, but I still favor Liverpool to win the European League this season, maybe the feel not the same when winning the champions league but at least it's better because ending the season without a title is very unpleasant.
Based on their current performances, a Bayer Leverkusen-Liverpool final would be fascinating. Leverkusen's chances worry me. Will they maintain their progress under Xabi throughout the competition? Leverkusen faces tight competition from Sevilla, the "kings of the Europa League". A packed Liverpool schedule worries me. In the UCL, EPL, and Carabao Cup, Klopp has his team. Does he keep them fit and focused? Despite having a higher chance of winning, Liverpool may be too spread out in the Europa League. Both teams face a dangerous journey.
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October 08, 2023, 06:39:35 AM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley

No doubt if bookies were favoring liverpool to win europa league. I remember that liverpool did it a few years ago but it has been long time since liverpool won europa league caused by this club was rarely going back to the europa league.
The club is now playing in europa league caused by it was not lucky enough to pass manchester united in the final standing of EPL last season. Nunez, salah and diaz are the new trio owned by liverpool.
These guys remind me of mane and firmino combined with salah. Im not even surprising if bookies saw liverpool as one of the strongest candidate to win the game right now.

Let's see what clubs that will come from UCL soon. There may be some good clubs to come from UCL.
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October 08, 2023, 05:33:18 AM

Liverpool didn't need to face leverkusen. it's caused by liverpool will obviously winning the game. The world class squads are not comparable with a good squad in the farmer league.
Roma is weak club now and he will out from europa league once it reaches play off. Liverpool will destroy everything.

Europa league is red.
It is not wrong to be confident but I just want to remind that this kind of words we often encounter even in the previous 2 seasons for some big clubs in the Europa League such as Barcelona, Juventus, Napoli, Arsenal and even Manchester United but it is precisely unexpected clubs like Frankfurt and Sevilla who end up becoming Champions in the Europa League. We should be able to take some examples from this because not all big clubs have luck in the Europa League.
Liverpool are the clear favorites for now in the Europa League but during the knockout phase I think it will be different because it is not impossible that there are other big clubs in the Europa League (exiles from the Champions League) and even unexpected clubs can become champions again.
The European League sometimes becomes more difficult for us to predict. Sometimes some teams that are strong in their main league actually become weak in the European league. Or sometimes vice versa. So yeah, anything can happen in the European leagues.

Although currently Liverpool may be the favorites. But we cannot predict the final result of this European League. Last season Roma made it to the Final but lose by Sevilla. So it's possible that this season there will be a surprise return from Roma. But right now I even have a pretty good feeling for West Ham. West Ham continues to make good results in the Europa League. So I'm curious whether my hunch will be right or wrong in the end.
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October 08, 2023, 05:23:29 AM
Honestly , Leverkusen is playing so smooth that I wouldn't be surprise to see them in the finals or even winning it because right now they seem to be one of the first candidates alongside Liverpool to win the trophy this year.

It would be great if we could see the final between Bayern Leverkusen vs Liverpool, right? I know it's still too early because when enter the knockout round everything can change a lot, and in that round teams can't make mistakes that could result in them being eliminated, but if the two favorite teams continue to perform well then this will be an ideal final and very interesting to watch, but I still favor Liverpool to win the European League this season, maybe the feel not the same when winning the champions league but at least it's better because ending the season without a title is very unpleasant.
I won't be surprised if Bayern Leverkusen gets to final because their performance is not looking bad. If they are really serious with the europa league I consider them after Liverpool to be winner if the league . Liverpool is the favorite to win the Europa League because it will be an advantage to them , even if they won't be able to meet up with a better position in premier league to qualify for champions league but with winning the Europa league I think it will really be of good benefit for them. I don't think Liverpool would want to lose chances of being eliminated in the league.
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October 08, 2023, 05:19:02 AM


Currently the odds for top 3 contenders for winning the Europa League title are like these:

- Liverpool : 4.00
- Roma : 13.00
- Leverkusen : 15.00

Liverpool are really the strongest team in the tournament by far currently. There are going to be teams coming from the Champions League also of course. But until then Liverpool will stay like this. They care about this tournament too considering their effort so far. Their priority is the Premier League of course that's why they have been subbing off their important players early in their games if they have a good advantage.

Liverpool have made big progress compared to last season by the way. This really deserves to be appreciated.  Smiley
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It is not wrong to be confident but I just want to remind that this kind of words we often encounter even in the previous 2 seasons for some big clubs in the Europa League such as Barcelona, Juventus, Napoli, Arsenal and even Manchester United but it is precisely unexpected clubs like Frankfurt and Sevilla who end up becoming Champions in the Europa League. We should be able to take some examples from this because not all big clubs have luck in the Europa League.
Liverpool are the clear favorites for now in the Europa League but during the knockout phase I think it will be different because it is not impossible that there are other big clubs in the Europa League (exiles from the Champions League) and even unexpected clubs can become champions again.
That's right and I agree with your opinion, the Europa League is full of surprises and sometimes more surprises than the Champions League. Many did not expect that Sevilla had collected more Europa League trophies than other favorite clubs, it is not impossible that this season there will be another surprise. Even though I also predict that Liverpool really deserves to be in first place as favorites, the improvement in performance shown by Laverkusen is worth considering.

It is true that clubs that are eliminated from the Champions League group phase will be stronger, and will make the European League more competitive. However, this will only be visible after the UCL group phase is completed, and will add to the list of favorite clubs in the European League.
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October 08, 2023, 04:23:09 AM
With Bayern Leverkusen's performance and results this season I think it is not farfetched for anyone to see them as the serious contender to win the UEFA Europa League competition. Liverpool on the other hand has been very impressive since the start of the season and I think they're also one of yhe favorites to reach the final of the competition this season.
Xabi Alonso has transformed his Bayer Leverkusen to become of the most best and consistent teams in Europe since he took over. And judging by Liverpool's current form, it'll be a great final of the two teams makes it the final
In this season, we have well organized performance from the both sides Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen as they are doing good business into their domestic leagues and having impressive results into this cup with most chances we will have them into last eight spots after this nothing is clear who is going through and who could be exited from their but if we have all things on well-balanced side then we can expect match between them into last rounds which could be very interesting even right now we have Roma and West Ham also on good side, but they are still not near these teams.

In case of Sevilla jumped here then surely result can take good change like we have in last season mostly were expecting success for the English clubs but at the end Sevilla steal the show and win Europa Cup now currently we have to wait for the right time about who is going into last four for the title.
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October 08, 2023, 04:11:52 AM

Liverpool didn't need to face leverkusen. it's caused by liverpool will obviously winning the game. The world class squads are not comparable with a good squad in the farmer league.
Roma is weak club now and he will out from europa league once it reaches play off. Liverpool will destroy everything.

Europa league is red.
It is not wrong to be confident but I just want to remind that this kind of words we often encounter even in the previous 2 seasons for some big clubs in the Europa League such as Barcelona, Juventus, Napoli, Arsenal and even Manchester United but it is precisely unexpected clubs like Frankfurt and Sevilla who end up becoming Champions in the Europa League. We should be able to take some examples from this because not all big clubs have luck in the Europa League.
Liverpool are the clear favorites for now in the Europa League but during the knockout phase I think it will be different because it is not impossible that there are other big clubs in the Europa League (exiles from the Champions League) and even unexpected clubs can become champions again.
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