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Quote from: Weawant on October 14, 2024, 08:42:40 AM

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Manchester United, who are in 14th place in the Premier League, also fell short of expectations in the Europa League. Their next match will be against Fenerbahçe. As a Turk, I want Fenerbahçe to win. The Manchester United manager will have reached the end of his patience in these matches. The results he gets in these matches will be very important for the management. Perhaps if he gets a bad result in the next match in the Europa League, he may even be dismissed from the team.

Actually Erick Ten Hag has not been sacked or isn't even looking to be sacked this season but maybe probably next season but then for now he is the manager of the Manchester United team and the best he can do is what he's dong even if its not making the team looking as they are progressive enough. Against Fenerberche i wouldn't want to be certain about what the result should be, this is because there's one thing that have been common with Ten Hag after multiple losses and complains he does manages to win a game unexpectedly so maybe this could be one of such so lets just give him that benefits of doubt anyways but Fenerbaerche isn't a weak side thou.

Isn't it quite funny to see the blind commitment and trust that Manchester United currently has in Ten Hag? Grin

Even though I am not a fan of the Red Devils, I am quite sad to see them slowly starting to be no longer considered a strong big team both in the English league and European competitions today, but strangely the management continues to keep Ten Hag as a coach even though they know that ten Hag is not a coach who is quite capable in handling the team.
Two matches with 2 points in the europa league is definitely not the result expected by fans at the moment especially since the opponent they are facing is not a big team, facing Fenerbache in the 3rd match of the europa league, of course will start to cause fans worries about Manchester ability to win 3 points later, especially now that Fenerbache have many quality players in their current squad.
I personally see that a draw or a narrow win for fenerbache will be the final result of the match later, while Ten Hag of course he will still smile in the Manchester United coaching chair because indeed defeat will not reduce the management confidence in him Cheesy

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Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Mathematically or the calculation for the six remaining matches before the determination to qualify for the next round, Manchester United actually still has a chance to improve their position in the standings as long as they are able to win the six matches that are still there for them and also for the other teams. Because if Ten Hag really wants his team to qualify without having to go through the play-off round, of course he must be able to give his best to his team so that their players do not make mistakes in carrying out their mission to be able to win in the next matches later.

Yes indeed, basically Manchester United still have a chance at least to be able to finish in the top eight but unfortunately, sometimes or maybe quite often Manchester United experience results that are not maximized with a draw even though they only play against underdogs. Even worse, at least Manchester United can also lose even though they only play against mediocre teams and thus, although Manchester United still have a chance to finish in the top eight, but it looks like it will still be difficult.

Because after all, in the Premier League standings also the fact that Manchester United still have to have a high focus, of course, not to continue to fall into the relegation zone. With the bad situation experienced by Manchester United at this moment, then I am sure whoever Manchester United's opponents in the Europa League are likely to remain a difficult match for Manchester United, because they really experienced a decline in performance and poor results at this moment.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 13, 2024, 09:29:18 AM

As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.

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You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team. Grin

With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.

Assuming we have the option of betting that a particular team will not win the trophy, then I would have gone all in on Manchester United not to win the Europa league. I don't just know what the bookmakers are seeing for giving Manchester United this kind of outrageous odd because if you look at what they are playing, they are not supposed to be among the first 5 teams to win the trophy. There are many teams that are better prepared for the trophy not Manchester United that could not win an average Dutch team like FC Twente.

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Quote from: G_Besar on October 14, 2024, 07:31:55 AM

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Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Mathematically or the calculation for the six remaining matches before the determination to qualify for the next round, Manchester United actually still has a chance to improve their position in the standings as long as they are able to win the six matches that are still there for them and also for the other teams. Because if Ten Hag really wants his team to qualify without having to go through the play-off round, of course he must be able to give his best to his team so that their players do not make mistakes in carrying out their mission to be able to win in the next matches later.

Manchester United chances of finishing in the top 8 of the standings are still very open, if you look at their 6 match schedule ahead, Fenerbahce is the only club that might trouble The Red Devils. The other five teams are relatively easy to overcome, but that cannot happen if they do not improve their performance. It is very painful if a club as big as Manchester United has to go through the play-off round to reach the last 16, Ten Hag must understand that this is a matter of team pride.
If you look at The Red Devils position in the current Premier League standings, it seems that the easiest way to get a ticket to the Champions League next season is in the Europa League. Once again Ten Hag must understand that talking too much and making promises cannot automatically add points, he must work hard to create a turning point in performance.
I think Ten Hag must be aware that there is a wave of protests on and off the field at the moment, which highlights Manchester United performance. The expected developments have not been able to be realized, maybe there will be improvements after the international break, but we can't expect much.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on October 14, 2024, 05:05:14 AM

Manchester United, who are in 14th place in the Premier League, also fell short of expectations in the Europa League. Their next match will be against Fenerbahçe. As a Turk, I want Fenerbahçe to win. The Manchester United manager will have reached the end of his patience in these matches. The results he gets in these matches will be very important for the management. Perhaps if he gets a bad result in the next match in the Europa League, he may even be dismissed from the team.

Actually Erick Ten Hag has not been sacked or isn't even looking to be sacked this season but maybe probably next season but then for now he is the manager of the Manchester United team and the best he can do is what he's dong even if its not making the team looking as they are progressive enough. Against Fenerberche i wouldn't want to be certain about what the result should be, this is because there's one thing that have been common with Ten Hag after multiple losses and complains he does manages to win a game unexpectedly so maybe this could be one of such so lets just give him that benefits of doubt anyways but Fenerbaerche isn't a weak side thou.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on October 14, 2024, 07:06:35 AM

Quote from: hyudien on October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

On paper Tottenham is a very favorite player and has the potential to get a victory, even though AZ Alkmaar is ranked third in the Eredevise domestic league and is much better with Ajax and Twente but in the Europa League he lost to Bilbao in the second match in the Europa League, I myself feel less confident with AZ Alkmaar to be able to keep up with Tottenham, especially this match at home to Tottenham Hotspur, it is certainly quite possible for Tottenham to get a big win.

Tottenham is a renowned team. However, this team is not in good form this season. The Tottenham team is now in ninth place in the Premier League table. Out of 7 matches, Tottenham won only 3 matches and lost 3 matches. We don't see better performances from Tottenham in the Premier League. In particular, the performance of Tottenham's defenders is poor. This is why Tottenham's overall performance is still erratic.

Alkmaar on the other hand is not a big team like Tottenham. But this group cannot be considered weak. Alkmaar have been performing well in the Eredivisie this season. However, in the last two matches we have seen somewhat poor performances from Alkmaar.

However, there is no doubt that Tottenham will be considered favorites in this match. However, since Alkmaar's defense is strong, as well as the performance of Tottenham's attacking players is erratic, the match is likely to be a draw.

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Quote from: bangjoe on October 13, 2024, 12:41:16 PM

If you look at Fenerbahce in a bad condition, then what about Man United who have the same fate, they lack balance and are very blunt to get a victory, so if compared to my opinion it will certainly be quite confusing, but if Man United can become Worse than Fenerbahce, it will be an advantage for Fenerbahce to collect points, and you also need to see that the two are really in a bad condition.

Fenerbahce doesn't look like in a very bad condition. If you learned their stats in the last few matches, they performed quite good. Although they got a draw against Twente and lose against Galatasaray, I think it is still acceptable. But Man United performed badly, they often got losses and draws against small teams. If we look at this condition, it is clear that Fenerbahce will be in a better condition. Moreover the next match will be in Fenerbahce home, Fenerbahce probably won't miss the chance to get full points. So, I also agree that Fenerbahce should be the favorite team to win the upcoming match in Europa league.

Fenerbahce matches stats: https://www.fctables.com/teams/fenerbahce-185297/

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on October 13, 2024, 06:27:14 PM

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Mathematically or the calculation for the six remaining matches before the determination to qualify for the next round, Manchester United actually still has a chance to improve their position in the standings as long as they are able to win the six matches that are still there for them and also for the other teams. Because if Ten Hag really wants his team to qualify without having to go through the play-off round, of course he must be able to give his best to his team so that their players do not make mistakes in carrying out their mission to be able to win in the next matches later.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

On paper Tottenham is a very favorite player and has the potential to get a victory, even though AZ Alkmaar is ranked third in the Eredevise domestic league and is much better with Ajax and Twente but in the Europa League he lost to Bilbao in the second match in the Europa League, I myself feel less confident with AZ Alkmaar to be able to keep up with Tottenham, especially this match at home to Tottenham Hotspur, it is certainly quite possible for Tottenham to get a big win.

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I think we should wait for the end of matchday 4 for correct assumptions. There will be 8 games in the league after all and the standings are determined by many variables such as fixture luck, the current form of the opponents, the results of the other matches. It wouldn't be right to talk about who will advance and who will be eliminated in the first 2-3 matches. But after the 4th matches, the league will be halfway through, so the luck factor will be greatly reduced and more accurate future projections can be made.
It's very possible that we will see the team that looks last at the moment in the top 16 at the end of the group stage. And in this league, a top 24 finish is enough for the next round. The play-off pairings will also be a matter of luck, there might be a significant difference in quality between the 9th ranked team and the 24th ranked team, but not between the 12th ranked team and the 21st ranked team, for example. The luck of the draw has always been important and this league will be no different. There is no big difference between 9th and 24th place, unless you are in the top 8, you will h ave to play knockout matches anyway.

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Quote from: Odusko on October 14, 2024, 04:56:16 AM

Quote from: hyudien on October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

About this game, I think Tottenham will have an easy win here, they will be playing at home, and they are in good form and also have good winnings in their previous matches in all competition than AZ Alkmaar. Even though football is a game of chance and luck, I don't expect Tottenham to either lose or draw this game because they need all the points they can get to lead the Europa League table.

In the Dutch League, AZ Alkmaar isn't performing bad as they currently occupy the 3rd position in the league but in the UEFA Europa League competition, I don't consider them as one of the strong teams in the competition. Playing away at Tottenham Hotspur in my own opinion is an already lost game for the Dutch club AZ Alkmaar because their hosts aren't just performing well in their domestic league but has won their first two games in the UEFA Europa League this season despite playing over 80 minutes of their first game against Qarabag with just 10 men.

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I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year. Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Manchester United, who are in 14th place in the Premier League, also fell short of expectations in the Europa League. Their next match will be against Fenerbahçe. As a Turk, I want Fenerbahçe to win. The Manchester United manager will have reached the end of his patience in these matches. The results he gets in these matches will be very important for the management. Perhaps if he gets a bad result in the next match in the Europa League, he may even be dismissed from the team.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

One thing i know is that Tottenham will not give chances to loose at home, they are going to make sure the worse they can take would be a draw but i doubt if they are going to settle for such, because even in the premier league this season they haven't lost so much at home and that is a very competitive league with some more tough teams than they are meeting in the Europa and same applies with AZ Alkmaar, they aren't am A lister in their league but an average and so i agree with Tottenham been favored in this game.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

Tottenham is currently unstoppable in the Europa League, they have six points already after their first two matches, and they are looking up to win their third match because they are in good shape and the team is hungry for title and they will want to use any opportunity that come their way, and this season's Europa League seems to be an opportunity of them because the big teams that should stop them are nit in good form that is why they are among the favorites to win the Europa League.

About this game, I think Tottenham will have an easy win here, they will be playing at home, and they are in good form and also have good winnings in their previous matches in all competition than AZ Alkmaar. Even though football is a game of chance and luck, I don't expect Tottenham to either lose or draw this game because they need all the points they can get to lead the Europa League table.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on October 13, 2024, 06:27:14 PM

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I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year. Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Nobody is saying that Manchester United does not have the chance to qualify with only two points that they have gotten from the two matches that they have played, but the problem is will they be able to win 4 matches out of the 6 matches that have not been played. I doubt it, and it is only possible if they can improve their performance but Ten Hag is not capable of doing that. This makes me believe that United might not be able to make it to the round of 16. No one should be put hope that it is possible for Manchester United to win thr league because it will be a dream that will not come true this season only if Ten Hag leaves the club.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 13, 2024, 04:23:04 PM

If Ten Hag can incredibly change and improve Manchester United's performance in the Europa League, then perhaps the odds given to them are much lower. But Manchester United is unlikely to be among the favorites to win the Europa League title, so odds above 7 don't mean much. Who would want to pick Manchester United to win the Europa League if the performance is like now, even someone with $ 10 will probably think 3 times before making a bet.

Several top teams from La Liga such as Bilbao can still be taken into account, but their performance in the last two matches is a bit doubtful. But there are still a lot of games to be played by each team and they can all still change. Representatives from Serie A and the Premier League are certainly strong, but representatives from La Liga probably cannot be underestimated.

Exactly how can anyone with good sense pick Manchester United to win the Europa League trophy? It is impossible, even in a dream. Where could Manchester United cross to win the trophy, when there are other top clubs in the tournament? I believe the 7.5 odds offered by the bookies for Manchester United are very low, a team like Manchester United should be given at least 10 odds based on their current performance. If Manchester United advances to the next round, they will be lucky because they have not won a single game in this competition.

However, Bilbao, who won against Alkmaar and drew against Roma, was offered 11 odds, I think the bookies have no idea what they predict at times because Bilbao is far better compared to Manchester United this season, this team currently sits in 11th position, while Manchester United is in 21st position with their two points in two matches, among the Premier League representatives, it seems that Tottenham will be the only one that is going to make it to the next round because it is still difficult that Manchester United will win their next game.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on October 13, 2024, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: boltz on October 13, 2024, 06:00:04 PM

I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year. Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

The remaining 6 matches will be against Fenerbahce, Paok, Bodo/Glimt, Viktoria Plazen, Rangers, and FCSB, 3 home 3 away.
If Ten Hag's troops can beat them all, of course the opportunity to qualify for R16 does not have to go through the play-off round, but the question is whether it is possible after we all know how bad their current performance is, even in their domestic league they are temporarily in 14th position, clearly this does not describe an elite club.
With their current condition which has not improved, to enter the play-off round they have to fight harder.

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It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.

Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.

The fans of Manchester United were excited with a draw they got from Aston Villa because they actually expected a loss on the match. Recur that Manchester United have not been very fortunate this season as they have lost majority of their matches. This makes Aston Villa a favourite team to win in that match. Most people actually bet Aston Villa to win, so a draw was a great result for them. I was even surprised that Manchested United was able to draw that match.

Based on the current performance, Manchester United fans were expecting a draw in the match between Manchester United and Aston Villa. Manchester United's past performance was not bad but their current performance is very bad. As a result, they faced Aston Villa as a weak opponent. According to past performance, Manchester United have won four consecutive matches against Aston Villa but if they could have won the last match, they could have won five matches in a row against Aston villa. That may have been challenging given their current performance.

In the match held between Aston Villa and Manchester United on October 6, Aston Villa advanced in ball position and passing, but none of their players could score the winning goal, As a result the match ended in a draw and both teams had to be satisfied with equal points.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 13, 2024, 09:29:18 AM

As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.

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You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team. Grin

With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.

It's kinda weird. United's odds barely changed after their poor performances in the opening games. I feel if it's a trap, and i'm so sorry for anyone who has very big expectation toward them. But even calling them to finish in the top 8 is too good to be true. And i doubt they will manage it to enter the R16 play off with their current performance.

They recorded 2 points from 2 matches, 0 GD. They have been performing like they were not a big club. They're too horrific to watch.

It's pretty much the same like last season's narrative.

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Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.

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