You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.
It seems like it will be much harder for Manchester United to win the UEL trophy because even though they have a new coach for the future and maybe Ruben needs to do some adaptation first to change the overall pattern of Manchester United's game. The group stage is not over yet and there are a few games that might have to be played so we can see how strong Manchester United are under his guidance. It is too early to speculate on that because other teams also have the same hopes of winning the UEL trophy. 
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You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.
I definitely agree with you on this one. I mean I don't think too many people here really believe that Manchester United is in a position to win the Europa League trophy. They may have a good game or two, but inconsistency will get them eliminated along the way or otherwise the new coach would have to be a magician and they would need a lot of luck.
In the Europa League I think a team like Lazio is more destined to win it. They may not be playing their best in the domestic league, but they are one of these teams that understand how to effectively play in these knockout competitions. A bit similar to how Sevilla did it for quite a while. Manchester United usually doesn't get very far with a single goal as they lack the cleverness and I doubt that the new coach will be able to change that drastically with the players he has at hand. As I said before, this is not quite the best team at all and they barely work as a unit.
You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.
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The thing remains that so many persons want to draw their conclusions already without having to wait a few more times and see how well it goes with the players or coach, and for Manchester United it's quite understandable after having to go through all of that they had to go through in the season that passed because it wasn't a fossy one and they can't wait already to se what the new coach has got and how well he will be able to salvage that team from their said plight.You could see that Manchester United is still not a hopeless case. It is weird, but so is Chelsea in the Premier League when they can go from top to worse and back within a week. I don't know, but every time I see Manchester United's team on paper, I still think that on some positions they could tremendously improve if they got some other players on board. It's not coming across as if the club had a concept in recent years. You could say the same about Chelsea, but they have so many players rotating that sometimes it is hard to keep track of their whole team.
But then again they shouldn't tie all these games against clubs like Twente or Fenerbahce. I understand that away from home the game against Porto can end in a draw, but they have now started with three draws, which I think could turn into a problem for them later down the road. Nothing is lost yet, but clearly nothing is won either.
Come on, not all managers are successful on their first season.
We haven't even see a match where Manchester United is managed by Amorim, we can't draw any conclusion.
Europa League isn't easy too, there are many top teams like Galatasaray, FC Porto, Lazio etc, honestly I wouldn't give any expectation they will become a champion, it's different to Europa Conference where most of the teams are mediocre.
But, I'm sure Manchester United will win in the upcoming match, PAOK Thessaloniki FC is a nothing team.
The thing remains that so many persons want to draw their conclusions already without having to wait a few more times and see how well it goes with the players or coach, and for Manchester United it's quite understandable after having to go through all of that they had to go through in the season that passed because it wasn't a fossy one and they can't wait already to se what the new coach has got and how well he will be able to salvage that team from their said plight. We haven't even see a match where Manchester United is managed by Amorim, we can't draw any conclusion.
Europa League isn't easy too, there are many top teams like Galatasaray, FC Porto, Lazio etc, honestly I wouldn't give any expectation they will become a champion, it's different to Europa Conference where most of the teams are mediocre.
But, I'm sure Manchester United will win in the upcoming match, PAOK Thessaloniki FC is a nothing team.
I think don't expect too much like that at the beginning, because if the reality is not as expected then you will be very disappointed. Because after all, basically Ruben Amorim also does not have much experience to be the head coach of a top team in the Premier League, so there is still no guarantee for Ruben Amorim to be successful at Manchester United. Because after all, about Erik ten Hag also at the beginning of his arrival it was very flattered and Erik ten Hag also at least succeeded in his first season at that time.
But after all, in reality Erik ten Hag still failed and even though he managed to make Manchester United get a trophy but Erik ten Hag was still fired. So, I think there is absolutely no guarantee about Ruben Amorim, because Ruben Amorim's experience is also limited to having good results in Portugal and not for teams in different leagues.
It is only logical that Ruben Amorim has caught the eye of United fans, particularly given his track record. First with Braga leading them to a title, and then with Sporting CP where he led them to a league title after so many years marked Amorim as a courageous and promising young coach. For most United Fans, he represents a beacon of hope following his success story in Portugal, perhaps being the figure to restore United's lost glory.
However, it must be borne in mind that the Premier League is a different challenge—in fact, a tougher level of competition. Amorim's success in Portugal should certainly give cause for optimism, but it still takes time, and full support from the club and players. High expectations of him can be motivating—the fans need to expect much from him; they also have to give him that space to adapt without too much pressure to bear down on him because every such move brings quite a few new difficulties to overcome.
I think don't expect too much like that at the beginning, because if the reality is not as expected then you will be very disappointed. Because after all, basically Ruben Amorim also does not have much experience to be the head coach of a top team in the Premier League, so there is still no guarantee for Ruben Amorim to be successful at Manchester United. Because after all, about Erik ten Hag also at the beginning of his arrival it was very flattered and Erik ten Hag also at least succeeded in his first season at that time.
But after all, in reality Erik ten Hag still failed and even though he managed to make Manchester United get a trophy but Erik ten Hag was still fired. So, I think there is absolutely no guarantee about Ruben Amorim, because Ruben Amorim's experience is also limited to having good results in Portugal and not for teams in different leagues.
Indeed, there is no guarantee that a team with a new coach can provide a better future and even experienced coaches will also fail in a team if they have certain problems.But after all, in reality Erik ten Hag still failed and even though he managed to make Manchester United get a trophy but Erik ten Hag was still fired. So, I think there is absolutely no guarantee about Ruben Amorim, because Ruben Amorim's experience is also limited to having good results in Portugal and not for teams in different leagues.
I mean like right now some people hope for Ruben Amorim to be able to bring MU to a higher level, that makes sense because as long as Ruben Amorim is given the freedom to recruit players and he can bring in quality players, I think the opportunity is still there even though it is not guaranteed.
And in my opinion as long as Ruben Amorim is still accompanied by Van Nistelrooy, everything will be fine and MU will soon improve.
We'll see later in the upcoming match Man United will face PAOK will be the first victory that MU gets in the European league this season.
Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.
But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.
I think don't expect too much like that at the beginning, because if the reality is not as expected then you will be very disappointed. Because after all, basically Ruben Amorim also does not have much experience to be the head coach of a top team in the Premier League, so there is still no guarantee for Ruben Amorim to be successful at Manchester United. Because after all, about Erik ten Hag also at the beginning of his arrival it was very flattered and Erik ten Hag also at least succeeded in his first season at that time.
But after all, in reality Erik ten Hag still failed and even though he managed to make Manchester United get a trophy but Erik ten Hag was still fired. So, I think there is absolutely no guarantee about Ruben Amorim, because Ruben Amorim's experience is also limited to having good results in Portugal and not for teams in different leagues.
But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.
Come on, not all managers are successful on their first season.We haven't even see a match where Manchester United is managed by Amorim, we can't draw any conclusion.
Europa League isn't easy too, there are many top teams like Galatasaray, FC Porto, Lazio etc, honestly I wouldn't give any expectation they will become a champion, it's different to Europa Conference where most of the teams are mediocre.
But, I'm sure Manchester United will win in the upcoming match, PAOK Thessaloniki FC is a nothing team.
Ruben Amorim will arrive on November 11, which means he will only be effective in accompanying his new team after the international break, and the away match against Ipswich Town will be his first match. Ruud van Nistelrooy will accompany the team for two more matches, against PAOK in the Europa League and Leicester City in the Premier League. The next five matches in the Europa League, including against PAOK, in my opinion are relatively easy for Manchester United, Ruben Amorim seems to prioritize the Europa League trophy to be won to get a ticket to the Champions League next season.
But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.
Come on, not all managers are successful on their first season.We haven't even see a match where Manchester United is managed by Amorim, we can't draw any conclusion.
Europa League isn't easy too, there are many top teams like Galatasaray, FC Porto, Lazio etc, honestly I wouldn't give any expectation they will become a champion, it's different to Europa Conference where most of the teams are mediocre.
But, I'm sure Manchester United will win in the upcoming match, PAOK Thessaloniki FC is a nothing team.
In my opinion, even Guardiola can not been able to bring City to win the league in his first season, but the trust given by the management has actually made him succeed in bringing Manchester City to win many trophies until now, so I think shouldn't Amorim also be given the opportunity for at least one season to adapt and restore Manchester United performance which has been very poor at the moment, I think with the mentality and performance that Manchester United has at the moment may not be only amorim, But even great coach like guardiola and ancelotti may find it very difficult to give the Red Devils such a prestigious trophy in their first season on coaching
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Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.
I also think Ruben Amorim will have no trouble understanding the current situation at Manchester United because he was brought in to make Manchester United better after Ten Hag was sacked because there was nothing to expect from the manager. And Ruud Van Nistelrooy is also a pretty smart guy in the world of football so his ideas can sometimes be very useful to a new coach like Ruben Amorim although I also have no doubts about the quality of technical knowledge that Ruben Amorim currently has so he will definitely be able to make a better change at Manchester United.Just like usual, when a new coach comes then there will be a lot of expectations for the coach, and that will indirectly become a real moral burden for a coach. So Amorim must also have that, I mean not be affected by the burden that is now on his shoulders. At least for now he must be able to adapt well, with that it will make it easier in the future. because in a team the relationship between the coach and the players must be well established. Even if you follow social media, then we will find a conspiracy that Manchester United players deliberately played badly to see Erik Ten Hag fired. Lol
But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.
Come on, not all managers are successful on their first season.We haven't even see a match where Manchester United is managed by Amorim, we can't draw any conclusion.
Europa League isn't easy too, there are many top teams like Galatasaray, FC Porto, Lazio etc, honestly I wouldn't give any expectation they will become a champion, it's different to Europa Conference where most of the teams are mediocre.
But, I'm sure Manchester United will win in the upcoming match, PAOK Thessaloniki FC is a nothing team.
Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.
I also think Ruben Amorim will have no trouble understanding the current situation at Manchester United because he was brought in to make Manchester United better after Ten Hag was sacked because there was nothing to expect from the manager. And Ruud Van Nistelrooy is also a pretty smart guy in the world of football so his ideas can sometimes be very useful to a new coach like Ruben Amorim although I also have no doubts about the quality of technical knowledge that Ruben Amorim currently has so he will definitely be able to make a better change at Manchester United. 
Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.
But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.
I am sure Amorim really needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy considering that for now he is the only one who understands the situation and condition of the players after Erik Ten Hag left. So it can be said that his presence will provide a real picture for Amorim to build an initial relationship with the United squad. Amorim needs to adapt to get to know all the United players even though some of them are Bruno who is also Portuguese but overall a quick adaptation is needed in the current situation where the competition is in the middle of the road.
Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.Needing Van Nistelrooy to take on this role was a risky decision for any manager looking to build a reputation for himself. Amorim's way of working and football philosophy will be completely different from Van Nistelrooy's. A new management team, with a clear philosophy and unaffected by previous management teams, is crucial to returning the club to its peak.
I need to say If in the next 3 matches, Van Nistelrooy has good results, Amorim will need to "remove" the Dutch strategist from the coaching team. Manchester United should be wary of the lure. For Amorim to truly focus on his job and build a team that is aligned with his vision, the club needs to make clear decisions and avoid unnecessary distractions. If someone with a good influence from the fans is on the bench and with someone new to Old Trafford, it will be very difficult for Amorim.
I admit that Ten Hag dismissal gives a happy impression because he has given a big score in another competition. But if this is related to the European league match, I don't think I agree if Man United rushes to inaugurate Ruben Amorim as coach before the next European league match starts.
Because a new coach must really experience adaptation and this will worsen the situation that should have improved.
So I would agree more if Ruben Amorim was immediately inaugurated as MU coach but in terms of pursuing the European league match, at least Ruben Amorim must continue to work with Van Nistelrooy to get better results.
I am sure Amorim really needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy considering that for now he is the only one who understands the situation and condition of the players after Erik Ten Hag left. So it can be said that his presence will provide a real picture for Amorim to build an initial relationship with the United squad. Amorim needs to adapt to get to know all the United players even though some of them are Bruno who is also Portuguese but overall a quick adaptation is needed in the current situation where the competition is in the middle of the road.Because a new coach must really experience adaptation and this will worsen the situation that should have improved.
So I would agree more if Ruben Amorim was immediately inaugurated as MU coach but in terms of pursuing the European league match, at least Ruben Amorim must continue to work with Van Nistelrooy to get better results.
Whatever the results of the discussion, I will be sure that Man United management will provide an opportunity for Van Nistleroy to accompany the new coach. Because it's not easy at this time when your squad has to try to look strong in several competitions.
We'll see how the results will be when in your EPL will compete against Chelsea. And if the results are positive, most likely Van Nistleoy will continue to accompany Man United until the end of the season.
His current status as a temporary coach and he is also one of Manchester United's legends, of course the management will give him the opportunity to help Ruben Amorim improve the quality of Manchester United's game again. Van Nistelrooy only needs to prove his quality even though his stint as head coach is short-lived, the victory over Leicester City in the EFL Cup gave an indication of his ability in strategizing. Ruben Amorim will have a much easier time doing his job if Van Nistelrooy is by his side.We'll see how the results will be when in your EPL will compete against Chelsea. And if the results are positive, most likely Van Nistleoy will continue to accompany Man United until the end of the season.
They will complement each other, because he knows the mentality of the team, weaknesses, he has been there for a long time and will definitely help the head coach. His achievements should of course be seen over a long period of time, not just one match, especially against Leicester City, who do not really pose a threat. They've only just returned to the EPL, they're trivially bad at playing so far
It's vital to say if Ruud Van Nistelrooy was winning against Leicester City's B team. Yet people are massively talking about Manchester United getting a "manager bounce" effect after he took a position as interim. It's too early to judge RVN's performance in this club. The upcoming game will show his impact on the club. His team is gonna face Chelsea, which is one of the clubs that closest to the top 4. Hopefully, his team will pull out a vibes FC performance against Chelsea soon.
Manchester United has appointed a new manager in their club and it is expected that this manager will definitely be a blessing for Manchester United. The manager has just been appointed by Manchester United so we are not so quick to discuss his sacking. The manager who was in charge of Manchester United earlier was given enough opportunities and given enough time but that Manchester United could not do anything good for it. I think if Manchester United give enough time to their current manager then this manager will definitely use his best skills and bring the team to a better level. A newly appointed manager may soon officially take charge of Manchester United.
Much is expected of Ruben Amorim, Manchester United have confirmed their new manager will join on November 11, with Ruud van Nistelrooy set to continue as interim manager until Ruben Amorim joins. Changing roles mid-season is not easy, with much at stake for the club and the manager, although expectations among Manchester United fans are now starting to look high. The board will certainly give him plenty of time, and the former Sporting PC manager looking more convincing than Ten Hag.Forget about the sacking of Ten Hag and his successor, and let's see what Ruud van Nistelrooy can bring tomorrow, maybe they will get a win over Chelsea to throw a welcoming party for Ruben Amorim.
However, there will be a lot of criticism if Manchester United's performance is poor due to a change of manager in the middle of the season, or if they perform the same as Manchester United did under the previous manager. And everyone will say that their previous manager at Manchester United was better than Ruben Amorim. Hopefully the players will be able to adapt themselves well to this manager and this manager will be able to improve the team considerably in a short period of time.
Ths head coach is responsible for every decision made and actions taken because he is in charge of the players, and the assistant coach is just to share ideas and carry out his own duties. Which means that an assistant coach might have some ideas that can help the club grow if he is listened to by his head coach, but if he is not taken serious his ideas remains within him. Van Nistelrooy might surprise everyone with ths way he will go about in coaching the team and improve their performance.
Actually the head coach definitely may have not been listening to the assistant and that's is why the assistant seem to be having good results after his exit and now Manchester United is beginning to look promising in their performance and it's gradually becoming obvious their problem was mostly with their coach that had much earlier and now they are doing better than they have aver done this season. Let's not be too expectant but be optimistic about van Nisterlrooy. 
Whatever the results of the discussion, I will be sure that Man United management will provide an opportunity for Van Nistleroy to accompany the new coach. Because it's not easy at this time when your squad has to try to look strong in several competitions.
We'll see how the results will be when in your EPL will compete against Chelsea. And if the results are positive, most likely Van Nistleoy will continue to accompany Man United until the end of the season.
His current status as a temporary coach and he is also one of Manchester United's legends, of course the management will give him the opportunity to help Ruben Amorim improve the quality of Manchester United's game again. Van Nistelrooy only needs to prove his quality even though his stint as head coach is short-lived, the victory over Leicester City in the EFL Cup gave an indication of his ability in strategizing. Ruben Amorim will have a much easier time doing his job if Van Nistelrooy is by his side.We'll see how the results will be when in your EPL will compete against Chelsea. And if the results are positive, most likely Van Nistleoy will continue to accompany Man United until the end of the season.
They will complement each other, because he knows the mentality of the team, weaknesses, he has been there for a long time and will definitely help the head coach. His achievements should of course be seen over a long period of time, not just one match, especially against Leicester City, who do not really pose a threat. They've only just returned to the EPL, they're trivially bad at playing so far
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