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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 11:19:32 AM

So if Amorim has difficulty bringing United to win the Europa League trophy, then everyone must accept that United may not compete in the Europa League or Champions League next season.
Currently, United's position in the Europa League is quite safe, but in the next round who will know the results? The opponent will be stronger, if Amorim does not manage the current team well, then they could be eliminated at any time.
I think Amorim's hope is only to try his best in the Europa League. Nothing else.

That's likely to happen but there is still a chance for them to get better results if they are able to make big changes for the next match even though it seems difficult it does not rule out the possibility that they can do it. Especially in the Europa League they can focus more on achieving better results even though their current strength is not so stable, the competition in the next round will be much more difficult and this is where Amorim needs more ability to develop the potential of his players. They can focus on winning the match by any means and must not make mistakes if they want to ensure they qualify for the semifinals or finals.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 26, 2025, 12:12:17 PM

Although Manchester United's performances this season have been inconsistent with mixed performances form both the Premier League and the Europa League, I believe they still have what it takes to win this season's Europa League. Despite their current position in the league standings, Manchester United's ability to rise to the occasion in high stakes matches cannot be overlooked.

Why are you so sure that Man United's performance this season can win the Europa League? I myself am not sure that Man United can survive until the final with Man United's performance like that, but this is just my opinion and it may also change if Man United has improved their performance to appear more consistent and the competition in the Europa League is Lazio who has not experienced defeat and may be a dark horse club in the UEL this season because I see not many who favor Lazio.

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Yep, they have escaped from the group stage with the help of Amorim. If only in the round of 16, an average team would play with United, they can qualify to the next stage. However, we might be underestimating United, and let it be that they will be victoroius in their matches. United knows this league as the only opportunity for them to qualify for UCL next season and work hard tirelessly to win it.

This have been my taughts all the while I saw that they appeared to have been doing grate at the group stage of the Europa this season and have been making productive results in the group stage of the europa this season, but not to underestimate United, it could be they have the Europa as a priority and so they are doing really good at it so they get just the best off it as it will avail them an opportunity for a whole lot next season. The fact that they aren't doing well at the Premier league isn't a reason to write them off in other league games.

Ten Hag and Ruud van Nistelrooy also played a part in Manchester United journey through the challenges in the League phase, Ruben Amorim came and continued the work better. Of course, the Europa League is now Manchester United main priority, which will give them a path to the Champions League next season. It should be that with the level of the Europa League not as competitive as the Premier League, The Red Devils will be able to win the trophy. At first glance, Manchester United squad depth looks the most ideal of all the other contestants, meaning they look too dominant here. Thus, Bruno Fernandes and his colleagues should be able to win the trophy as expected, although the competition will remain tight and require better performance.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 26, 2025, 03:30:58 PM

At the moment, this is how the top five of the Europa League table stands and looking at the table, I'm surprised how Lazio have been the best performing team of the season in the competition. Lazio I know is one of the traditional clubs in Italy but in recent years, they've not been able to have great European outings which is why I'm shocked that they're not just leading the UEFA Europa League table this season but are also unbeaten in the competition in all of the seven games they've played so far.

Last season Atalanta became the first Italian club to win the competition so I'm asking if you think Lazio will be following suit this season? Do you think they have all it takes to go all the way lift the trophy? Let me read your thoughts

Perhaps this state of affairs may be surprising, but only if you forget that starting from this season only losers who did not get into the Champions League (without any transfers in the middle of the tournament) play in the Europa League. Who does Lazio compete with? With United, with Tottenham - look how terrible these clubs are in the Premier League. It turns out that the level here is very low and any club can end up in first place.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 26, 2025, 11:40:29 AM

Yep, they have escaped from the group stage with the help of Amorim. If only in the round of 16, an average team would play with United, they can qualify to the next stage. However, we might be underestimating United, and let it be that they will be victoroius in their matches. United knows this league as the only opportunity for them to qualify for UCL next season and work hard tirelessly to win it.

This have been my taughts all the while I saw that they appeared to have been doing grate at the group stage of the Europa this season and have been making productive results in the group stage of the europa this season, but not to underestimate United, it could be they have the Europa as a priority and so they are doing really good at it so they get just the best off it as it will avail them an opportunity for a whole lot next season. The fact that they aren't doing well at the Premier league isn't a reason to write them off in other league games.

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At the moment, this is how the top five of the Europa League table stands and looking at the table, I'm surprised how Lazio have been the best performing team of the season in the competition. Lazio I know is one of the traditional clubs in Italy but in recent years, they've not been able to have great European outings which is why I'm shocked that they're not just leading the UEFA Europa League table this season but are also unbeaten in the competition in all of the seven games they've played so far.

Last season Atalanta became the first Italian club to win the competition so I'm asking if you think Lazio will be following suit this season? Do you think they have all it takes to go all the way lift the trophy? Let me read your thoughts

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 11:19:32 AM

So if Amorim has difficulty bringing United to win the Europa League trophy, then everyone must accept that United may not compete in the Europa League or Champions League next season.
Currently, United's position in the Europa League is quite safe, but in the next round who will know the results? The opponent will be stronger, if Amorim does not manage the current team well, then they could be eliminated at any time.
I think Amorim's hope is only to try his best in the Europa League. Nothing else.

Same as I said before, without belittling the Manchester United squad, but indeed their performance has not been formed according to what Amorim wants. as said by Bruno Fernandes as reported by Fabrizio Romano, that his team did not play as Amorim expected. IMO, changes in system and pattern transitions as well as tinkering with the positions of the players certainly require adjustment and adaptation, sometimes the players need time to be able to play their roles with the system, tactics, strategies and style that Amorim wants. this is not easy, in fact I prefer to say that Amorim is rebuilding Manchester United according to his program and philosophy. unfortunately, it seems like it will take time, especially since Amorim needs players who fit his criteria. what is important now is how the system is built well, and the United players play their games as best they can. or, no matter playing well or badly, the important thing is to win, but even that is not easy. well, I'm sure Amorim is trying his best to build his team as he hopes. However, it takes time and the supporters to wait patiently. What is certain is that Ruben Amorim and his team will try to play as well as possible in the Europa League, we'll see how far they go.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 26, 2025, 12:12:17 PM

Although Manchester United's performances this season have been inconsistent with mixed performances form both the Premier League and the Europa League, I believe they still have what it takes to win this season's Europa League. Despite their current position in the league standings, Manchester United's ability to rise to the occasion in high stakes matches cannot be overlooked.

Yes, since the sacked Ten Hag, their Europa League team performance was ok, they are really playing well because they are now winning matches unlike when Ten Hag was managing the team where they were on their way to the elimination zone in the Europa League table, and now they are the in the fourth place in the URFA Europa League table and are among the favorites to win the Europa League title this season because the Tottenham and Galatasary I was expecting to be the top favorites are not in good form, they have dropped and have to fight harder to qualify to the knockout stage.

Furthermore, my hope in Manchester United as the favorites to win the Europa League has increased because the top teams are not better than them; Lazio is not a consistent team same as Frankfurt and Bilbao, therefore, if Amorim can coordinate his team well, they can win the Europa League and secure their Champions League spot from there since the top four in the Premier League will be very difficult for them.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 26, 2025, 12:12:17 PM

Although Manchester United's performances this season have been inconsistent with mixed performances form both the Premier League and the Europa League, I believe they still have what it takes to win this season's Europa League. Despite their current position in the league standings, Manchester United's ability to rise to the occasion in high stakes matches cannot be overlooked.

Initially I thought Manchester United are playing badly in the Europa league since I haven't watched them and I judged their performance from how bad they're playing in the premier league but it looks like Manchester United are playing averaging as they have won their last four games in the Europa league and they're qualifying automatically already. But still it'll be very difficult for Manchester United to defeat the other teams that have been playing so well already in the Europa league. Manchester United aren't favourites but there's no doubt that they have the potential to win the league if they continue to play very well and win their games without making mistakes like they're always doing.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 26, 2025, 12:12:17 PM

Although Manchester United's performances this season have been inconsistent with mixed performances form both the Premier League and the Europa League, I believe they still have what it takes to win this season's Europa League. Despite their current position in the league standings, Manchester United's ability to rise to the occasion in high stakes matches cannot be overlooked.

They have been very inconsistent in the domestic league, even now they are in a fairly depressed position because they continue to experience defeat, but fortunately this negative trend has not been carried over to the UEFA European League. In the UEL, I think they have performed quite well, and are able to be in a fairly good position, so the hope of advancing to the last 16 is very wide open.

I really hope that Man United can make significant changes to increase their chances of being able to win the UEL title again this season.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 08:41:35 AM

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Since I don't see much change in performance, I think Manchester United will have to play in Europa League next season too.

I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.

The only way for them to be able to play in the UCL next season is to become UEL champions this season, because if they hope for UCL tickets through the domestic league zone it obviously looks impossible for them to get it, while if they also fail get UCL tickets next season via UEL path, there is actually still a way for their to play in European competitions next season, mainly in UEL from the path of FA champions like ten hag did Last season, but even so I think for now Amorim should be able to maximize their players to be able to achieve one of the opportunities that are still open, because to expect big changes with a total overhaul of the team will certainly not happen in the near time this is due to the transfer market that will close soon.

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Although Manchester United's performances this season have been inconsistent with mixed performances form both the Premier League and the Europa League, I believe they still have what it takes to win this season's Europa League. Despite their current position in the league standings, Manchester United's ability to rise to the occasion in high stakes matches cannot be overlooked.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 11:19:32 AM

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I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.

It will be even more complicated because it is impossible for Manchester United to get players according to Amorim's needs in the near future so this can affect the team's performance in the competition in the League. Even winning the Europa League is still quite difficult for Manchester United because the team's condition is not so consistent and they will get a much tougher challenge when facing much tougher opponents. Amorim's situation in changing the team to be stronger is not easy because they have to sell some of the existing players first and after that buy some of the players needed and the club's finances must also be adjusted first.

So if Amorim has difficulty bringing United to win the Europa League trophy, then everyone must accept that United may not compete in the Europa League or Champions League next season.
Currently, United's position in the Europa League is quite safe, but in the next round who will know the results? The opponent will be stronger, if Amorim does not manage the current team well, then they could be eliminated at any time.
I think Amorim's hope is only to try his best in the Europa League. Nothing else.

Yep, they have escaped from the group stage with the help of Amorim. If only in the round of 16, an average team would play with United, they can qualify to the next stage. However, we might be underestimating United, and let it be that they will be victoroius in their matches. United knows this league as the only opportunity for them to qualify for UCL next season and work hard tirelessly to win it.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on January 26, 2025, 10:33:25 AM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 08:41:35 AM

I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.

It will be even more complicated because it is impossible for Manchester United to get players according to Amorim's needs in the near future so this can affect the team's performance in the competition in the League. Even winning the Europa League is still quite difficult for Manchester United because the team's condition is not so consistent and they will get a much tougher challenge when facing much tougher opponents. Amorim's situation in changing the team to be stronger is not easy because they have to sell some of the existing players first and after that buy some of the players needed and the club's finances must also be adjusted first.

So if Amorim has difficulty bringing United to win the Europa League trophy, then everyone must accept that United may not compete in the Europa League or Champions League next season.
Currently, United's position in the Europa League is quite safe, but in the next round who will know the results? The opponent will be stronger, if Amorim does not manage the current team well, then they could be eliminated at any time.
I think Amorim's hope is only to try his best in the Europa League. Nothing else.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 26, 2025, 08:41:35 AM

I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.

It will be even more complicated because it is impossible for Manchester United to get players according to Amorim's needs in the near future so this can affect the team's performance in the competition in the League. Even winning the Europa League is still quite difficult for Manchester United because the team's condition is not so consistent and they will get a much tougher challenge when facing much tougher opponents. Amorim's situation in changing the team to be stronger is not easy because they have to sell some of the existing players first and after that buy some of the players needed and the club's finances must also be adjusted first.

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Quote from: mammusu on January 26, 2025, 02:08:31 AM

Manchester United should try to focus on a competition that is more open to them to win the trophy this season, although they should not lose concentration in the current league to stay away from the relegation zone, the European league is one of the alternatives that is current still open to them to win the trophy or also a way to get one ticket for the champions league next season if they can win it, the competition in the European league is very tight at the moment but if they can focus and also maintain the consistency of their performance in the European league, then I think it is not impossible for them to win the European league trophy later.

Ten Hag always used the example of winning trophies, no matter how badly Manchester United had the season, but it was true, he achieved that goal. For Amorim there are not many opportunities to do that, obviously in the Premier League they will not do it, so they have the FA Cup and the Europa League. But I think Amorim now want to improve their game, to go into the new season with a completely different team.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on January 26, 2025, 08:15:50 AM

Since I don't see much change in performance, I think Manchester United will have to play in Europa League next season too.

I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 25, 2025, 09:47:04 PM

I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.

Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.

Don't bother, more precisely, you have to focus on every match, be it EPL or UEL, especially now that the situation they are experiencing, Man United is in a lot of trouble and their players are not performing well at the moment and Amorin has to improve their quality because buying new players seems a bit hesitant because Man United's finances are not good, and I'm sure they can still progress to the top level because it can be seen from several big matches they will play in the future, it's just how consistent it is to implement it so as not to fall into degradation.

And I'm sure Man United still has good quality, that's why Man United is my favorite in UEL, I'm sure under Amorin they can develop, especially since the performance that Amorin implements to the players is extraordinary, he puts pressure on the players well, doesn't give them the opportunity to be lazy, so I'm sure they will be able to get through this phase well.

I don't know whether I should be happy or sad, but now one of their mainstay strikers has moved to Real Betis on a 6-month loan.

Antoni has been reported that he has now joined Real Betis, and even though many people are criticizing him, I hope he can perform well in La Liga. On the other hand, this is also a fairly concrete step to slightly ease the financial condition of Man United which is currently shaky, considering that Antoni is one of Man United's players with a fairly high salary.

And for now, we just have to wait for Casemiro's transfer to be completed, because if there is an agreement between Man United and Al Nassr, then Man United will get additional funds to be able to bring in new players.

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In my opinion, Man United was quite lucky in that victory because they got 1 own goal from their opponents and Man United only added 1 goal to determine their victory, if Rangers did not make a mistake, the match might have ended in a draw, honestly Man United is not a tough opponent in the UEL and I am not sure Man United will last long in the UEL competition because Man United is not yet fully consistent.

How Manchester United plays in the Europa league cannot be compared to how they play in the premier league. The performance they’ve put in all this while in the Europa league is not enough to say they’ll be the team that will have the more chances to prevail in the Europa League. Generally they are poor and I can’t say to what extent they can do this season in the Europa league. Most of the wins they got from this league was through the former coach and not the present one, so I won’t say they’re technically good to be the most dominant team in the league today. We have other big teams that are doing greatly than them, so I suppose they’ll have more chances of prevailing than them.

Considering the opponent Manchester United has faced so far in the European League or the opponent they will face in the upcoming matches, the opponents in the Premier League are tough. Since Premier League opponents are stronger than European League opponents, naturally Premier League performance and European League performance will not be the same for Manchester United. Manchester United has been performing well in the Europa League recently but when there was no change in manager, Manchester United's performance in the Europa League was very poor. According to the number of matches played by Manchester United in the Europa League, they have not achieved good points due to which they are still at the bottom of the points table. Since I don't see much change in performance, I think Manchester United will have to play in Europa League next season too.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 24, 2025, 09:40:58 PM

In my opinion, Man United was quite lucky in that victory because they got 1 own goal from their opponents and Man United only added 1 goal to determine their victory, if Rangers did not make a mistake, the match might have ended in a draw, honestly Man United is not a tough opponent in the UEL and I am not sure Man United will last long in the UEL competition because Man United is not yet fully consistent.

It wasn't an easy win for the Red Devils indeed! Sad

They could have nearly got a draw if it weren't for Fernandes' winner. They still don't look convincing enough with their performance in general. They can't get comfortable wins.

Like I said before, I relate this to the squad quality. Amorim shouldn't be the scapegoat here. He has nothing else to do other than playing with the current squad he has in his hands. He couldn't rebuild the team yet.

This is why I don't think Manchester United will manage to win the Europa League title this season. How far can they go on like this I mean? Huh

They will need to show much better effort when they face a serious threat in later stages.

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