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December 08, 2024, 04:48:42 AM

Arsenal are significantly superior to Manchester United this season, and I am confident that regardless of how they meet Manchester, they will have more possibilities to defeat United in all competitions. I don't think Amorim, Manchester United's new coach, is focused on the league. Is primary goal is to compete in the Europa League because they are no longer able to win the Premier League. Liverpool has already achieved it. I don't believe any club will be able to overtake them in the league right now, therefore his focus is now on other tournaments in which he still has a chance to win. Let's see how Manchester United will fare in the Europa League, and if they can win the trophy now that they have a better management this season. I believe that Manchester United will not finish this season without winning trophies. Am very impressed with the new coach performance since he came to the club is doing great and making the fans appreciate what is doing this season.
Yes, Arsenal is indeed superior to Manchester United in the EPL this season because Manchester United has declined since the beginning of the season if the Man United club had fired Erik Ten Hag since the end of last season maybe this season would be different because from what I see Amorim is better than Erik Ten Hag. But I do not agree if Amorim only focuses on the UEL to be able to win the UEL title this season they also focus on the EPL to finish in a better ranking. In the UEL also has quite strong competitors and Man United will not be easy to get the title here the more realistic possibility is the FA Cup title like last season.
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December 08, 2024, 04:47:53 AM
If you look at Manchester United's ability under Ruben Amorim's coaching, there are still some weaknesses and I witnessed when they lost at home against Nottingham Forest, where Manchester United were unable to do much and instead they had difficulty keeping up with the attacks built by Nottingham Forest players. If we look at the results, I am pessimistic that Amorim can present a trophy in their first season because even though in the Europa League the teams they faced were not too strong, there are always surprises in the competition and we would never have guessed how Atalanta could beat Leverkusen who at that time performed quite impressively.
It seems that Amorim must change the formation that he has used for Manchester United players in the upcoming matches, because I see Mainoo really does not live in a formation like that even though he is one of the very good players at Manchester United at the moment apart from several players in the front line. Because Amorim who is new to Manchester United must try more new things in the team so he can know what is more suitable for the team at this time because I also thought that Manchester United could win at home when hosting Nottingham Forest. But in fact they lost at home.
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December 08, 2024, 04:06:47 AM
I mean isn't it normal? Look at the roster and look at the players Manchester United has, it's quite normal that Amorim wouldn't be able to suddenly win every game, of course he is going to end up with some issues along the way for now. Not that he is doing terrible, he is doing alright enough and I am sure that they will finish in top 24 anyways, so that should not be an issue for them.

Let's see who they will face at knock out stages, the playoffs, and I am pretty sure unless they face someone bigger, then they are going to end up being ok, not going to really cost that much. I feel like the best thing would be just seeing what could change for the roster because they need to hire some players that can play better for Amorim.
Erik Ten Hag was not able to win games with these players, the only manager to make the players look good was Ruud van Nistelrooy. Ruben Amorim may have his own plans when coming to Manchester United, I suspect he will make a lot of transfers in the upcoming window. Amorim will be able to rearrange his squad when he sells some players that he inherited and bring in some good and quality footballers that he knows would be able to align with his vision. This season Manchester United will be able to qualify to the next round of the Europa League, they have a shot at lifting the Europa trophy this season Amorim should focus on winning the Europa League.
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December 08, 2024, 01:43:36 AM
Man United under Ruben Amorim this season certainly will not be able to compete in the EPL league, because he entered in the middle of the season and he also has to adapt. So making the Europa League trophy a priority would make sense. Ruben Amorim has great ambitions for Man United this season, giving a trophy to Man United in his first season will certainly have an impact on the team's confidence so that it will have an impact on the next season. The two remaining matches in the Europa League will most likely be swept clean by Man United because if you look at the quality of their opponents, Man United is far superior and under Ruben Amorim, Man United is slowly starting to change and has a good playing character.
If you look at Manchester United's ability under Ruben Amorim's coaching, there are still some weaknesses and I witnessed when they lost at home against Nottingham Forest, where Manchester United were unable to do much and instead they had difficulty keeping up with the attacks built by Nottingham Forest players. If we look at the results, I am pessimistic that Amorim can present a trophy in their first season because even though in the Europa League the teams they faced were not too strong, there are always surprises in the competition and we would never have guessed how Atalanta could beat Leverkusen who at that time performed quite impressively.
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December 07, 2024, 11:43:05 PM
United is so freaking bad that even Amorim's doesn't know how to start and rebuild this team so give him time because this team needs all the time in the world to recover after Ten Haag era.

However , like you said above , we can see some small ideas of Amorim already when we watch United but like I said , this team forgot to play football so it will take a while for them to actually have confidence in what Amorim is trying to implement.

Morale low and games weren't played with fun and to entertain the fans, I'm not going to say that the coach if confused and don't know how and where to start from.

 At least, we're seeing him implementing his style of play. I'm still not convinced man utd will win the next game against city in the league.
Also, they have incompetent players with high payrolls who are capable 9f throwing managers under the bus. They still have some certain names from the time of Loius van Gaal. Pathetic!!
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December 07, 2024, 10:49:12 PM
I'm not the fans of Manchester united, but I can tell you categorically that Manchester united will improve in this season, but they will not going to lift the UEFA champion league trophy this season which is my prediction and also my observation in their performance in this season.
Improvements will come but not with the lazy ass players they have in that squad who go on to play well in a game and the other useless. It breaks my heart because this are players with high payrolls. Lifting the Champions League Competition? That's laughable if any man utd fan ever thought they'd do that. The least I also think they can get this season is trying to get back into top four otherwise, they'll be foked!
I can already guess, some Manchester United players are indeed bit disappointing and I think Amorim will also make changes to the line-up of players owned by Manchester United in the upcoming transfer window, so we can see Manchester United really have players who are worthy and can be responsible for the salaries they get.
No UCL title to be win by Manchester United even for the Europa League being able to reach the semifinals or finals and being able to enter the top four for the Premier League is an achievement that is more than enough for this season, I want to see what steps will be taken next to stabilize their performance.
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December 07, 2024, 06:29:05 PM
United is so freaking bad that even Amorim's doesn't know how to start and rebuild this team so give him time because this team needs all the time in the world to recover after Ten Haag era.

However , like you said above , we can see some small ideas of Amorim already when we watch United but like I said , this team forgot to play football so it will take a while for them to actually have confidence in what Amorim is trying to implement.
I agree with you 100%, the damage on Manchester United is such that Amorim may actually need beyond a season to getting them fixed and he's doing the his best, even if the results aren't showing just yet but we can see slight improvement with the pattern, at least now, unlike before, Manchester United now have a playing pattern awaiting results. It's not fair to already be judging Amorim by few games literally less than ten games and some persons already wants him sacked. Even in the January transfer window, he may need to make some buys and selling off of some players to get this build up he's trying to do work well, so please lets cut him some slacks.
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December 07, 2024, 05:01:20 PM
I mean isn't it normal? Look at the roster and look at the players Manchester United has, it's quite normal that Amorim wouldn't be able to suddenly win every game, of course he is going to end up with some issues along the way for now. Not that he is doing terrible, he is doing alright enough and I am sure that they will finish in top 24 anyways, so that should not be an issue for them.

Let's see who they will face at knock out stages, the playoffs, and I am pretty sure unless they face someone bigger, then they are going to end up being ok, not going to really cost that much. I feel like the best thing would be just seeing what could change for the roster because they need to hire some players that can play better for Amorim.

What are you talking about? Man Utd have one of the best roasters in the UEL this season. So their problem isn't about their roaster or the players they have lined up. I think it's much more than that. If anything, Man Utd should be doing very well already but aren't. I understand that Amorim just got in and it would take some time for him to get adjusted to this squad and rotation.

Hopefully he can do that before later stages of this tournament but aside from that, the roaster is good. He just needs to utilize it well.

Not a roaster / squad problem imo.
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December 07, 2024, 04:58:39 PM
Well now at the beginning this is a good start for Amorim. However, we also can't be that quick in concluding Amorim's performance.

It is still too early to judge Amorim's performance. We have to wait for him to form his team, not just the players currently in the squad, but he will clearly demand United to bring in the players he wants to achieve his targets. But at least this season, he must have a target or progress that shows a big improvement in United's game. In several matches now, we can see it but I'm sure Amorim has not judged it optimally. If Amorim shows satisfactory results this season, I'm sure Amorim will have a better and longer chance than Ten Hag.

United is so freaking bad that even Amorim's doesn't know how to start and rebuild this team so give him time because this team needs all the time in the world to recover after Ten Haag era.

However , like you said above , we can see some small ideas of Amorim already when we watch United but like I said , this team forgot to play football so it will take a while for them to actually have confidence in what Amorim is trying to implement.

If he even succeeds in fixing the team, maybe it wasn't about Ten Hag, we won't know that. Despite the fact that MU is playing in the Europa league without defeats, they have little good there, because they have only 2 wins and not against top clubs, only against average clubs, so we can conclude that MU itself is now about average level
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December 07, 2024, 04:46:38 PM
I'm excitedly waiting for the day to watch the Malmo - Galatasaray game.  Roll Eyes  We started the Europa League in a strong way with 11 points already. We are going to play this game with the aim of getting 3 points as always.

Malmo aren't a big competitor for us on paper. They didn't start well. Only 3 points and I can say their defense is in really poor shape also. This is where we should be taking advantage of.

We have Osimhen and many more effective attackers. I know we aren't also one of the bests in defense but we can still atone for that with our scoring.
Galatasaray will face a fairly easy opponent and I am sure they can win even though in this match their status is as the away team. Malmo is very bad in defense besides their attack is also not impressive. It seems that Galatasaray will advance to the next phase smoothly because their remaining 3 matches including this match are easily defeated opponents, only one difficult match for them is in the last match they have to face Ajax.
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December 07, 2024, 03:03:23 PM
I mean isn't it normal? Look at the roster and look at the players Manchester United has, it's quite normal that Amorim wouldn't be able to suddenly win every game, of course he is going to end up with some issues along the way for now. Not that he is doing terrible, he is doing alright enough and I am sure that they will finish in top 24 anyways, so that should not be an issue for them.

Let's see who they will face at knock out stages, the playoffs, and I am pretty sure unless they face someone bigger, then they are going to end up being ok, not going to really cost that much. I feel like the best thing would be just seeing what could change for the roster because they need to hire some players that can play better for Amorim.
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December 07, 2024, 12:30:31 PM
I'm excitedly waiting for the day to watch the Malmo - Galatasaray game.  Roll Eyes  We started the Europa League in a strong way with 11 points already. We are going to play this game with the aim of getting 3 points as always.

Malmo aren't a big competitor for us on paper. They didn't start well. Only 3 points and I can say their defense is in really poor shape also. This is where we should be taking advantage of.

We have Osimhen and many more effective attackers. I know we aren't also one of the bests in defense but we can still atone for that with our scoring.
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December 07, 2024, 12:08:10 PM
Amorim is very advanced in communicating with the players. He is a candidate to become an advanced manager but Manchester United decided too early to bring him in. It would have been better for both sides to wait for the end of the season for Amorim. His success at Sporting is unfinished. Manchester United have a bad squad structure at the moment and they need to bring in some of the best players in the world in a few positions if they want to get back to the old days. Apart from that, they are also lacking in other areas. They don't have enough players. In my opinion, this season Manchester United can stop the bad run but they can't make a breakthrough.
I don't want to expect too much in his first season, because he also has to use players inherited from the previous coach. Of course it will also be a challenge because he is not so free to get the players he has, at least until the transfer window opens. Whatever the result this season I will not be surprised, but I just want to see good progress that he can show. The best record is bringing Manchester United to the Champions League. It is not easy indeed, but their chances are still quite open as long as they can perform consistently.
Everyone going with his own strategy and mythology which helps him in future as well we have Arne Slot his first season Liverpool is currently at the top while Enzo Maresca in his first season having impressive success, and they are currently second in Premier League we can expect changes, but it's not for all Ruben Amorim is surely having challenging job and it's never been easy for him to bring back Manchester United at the top.

He is capable, but he needs time and good depth with players while his team also needed to give their best because without good coordination they can't able to have success Manchester United can keep themselves in good position but it's one of the toughest challenges for the coach and players while they are badly down and their chances are also not good in this season.
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December 07, 2024, 11:57:07 AM
Manchester United are in 12th position and only 4 points away from the top of the standings. Thus, their chances of qualifying automatically without being in the play-off round are very large, as long as they can maximize the remaining 3 matches in this early round. Atalanta will be their first challenge from the remaining 3 matches. It is certainly not easy to win against Atalanta, but that does not mean it is impossible. Amorim started well, although in his debut he could only get a draw and also in the last match they played they had to lose to Arsenal. but there is something that this coach can offer, I want to see him in the Europa League when facing Atalanta.
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December 07, 2024, 09:17:50 AM
United is so freaking bad that even Amorim's doesn't know how to start and rebuild this team so give him time because this team needs all the time in the world to recover after Ten Haag era.

However , like you said above , we can see some small ideas of Amorim already when we watch United but like I said , this team forgot to play football so it will take a while for them to actually have confidence in what Amorim is trying to implement.

For now, Amorim is still having trouble finding a good squad and of course,e improving the performance of each player is a big job for Amorim. We can see it when some players are often rotated, it shows Amorim wants to see how his players are ready for each match and those who perform poorly, I think should be ready to be crossed out of the squad.
The current effort is to build a squad for United to qualify for the next round of the Europa League. To win the competition, it seems like we put aside that target first and he will focus more on improving his players.
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December 07, 2024, 09:17:25 AM
Well now at the beginning this is a good start for Amorim. However, we also can't be that quick in concluding Amorim's performance.

It is still too early to judge Amorim's performance. We have to wait for him to form his team, not just the players currently in the squad, but he will clearly demand United to bring in the players he wants to achieve his targets. But at least this season, he must have a target or progress that shows a big improvement in United's game. In several matches now, we can see it but I'm sure Amorim has not judged it optimally. If Amorim shows satisfactory results this season, I'm sure Amorim will have a better and longer chance than Ten Hag.
Even if you want to do some assessment on Amorim I don't think he is doing badly at the moment, because the loss he conceded against arsenal is justified in the fact that arsenal are a far better side than Manchester United at the moment and played better than Manchester United in that game. Coach Amorim is using the players that are available at the moment which is very hard for him because most of those players are not at their best at the moment and at such the coach shouldn't be judged by whatever result the team is getting at this point in time until he restructures the team to his own standard.
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December 07, 2024, 09:15:59 AM
I think the reason the management of Manchester United waited for too long before sacking Erik ten Hag was because they had faith in the Dutch man and wanted to see him return the club to winning ways but the longer they waited for improvement the poorer the team performed.
The good thing is that the club have finally taken the bold decision and have signed a  manager that have a proven record of succeeding with an average team. The new manager Ruben Amorim have already changed the playing style of the club and I believe he'll achieve more than his predecessor.
In as much as your point is very valid, I wouldn't agree to the fact that the records of the new manager is a prove he's going to do better at Manchester United, the team he headed before coming to old Trafford wasn't a n average team in their league actually they are top five in their league just that the variation in league is what we can see as different, now getting adopted to the competitive nature of the premier league which is much higher than the former league where he was heading a team, is another thing he will.need to adjust to, so far he's been progressive with his build up with the team and that should be applauded and let's hope for the best.
You don't have to wait for a whole season to understand what a manager is like and his team management skills, but two to three matches under him can tell you about his skills. After taking charge of Manchester United, we can say that Manchester United will do well under this manager by the way the team's current manager is playing the team's players and proving his skills in every match. For a long time we have seen Manchester United perform poorly and at one point we felt that maybe Manchester United forgot to perform well and they will never get back to performing well. But with the change of manager, we can at least expect that Manchester United will return to their former form and once again they will be in the best position in other major tournaments including the Premier League.
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December 07, 2024, 08:19:08 AM
Of course there is nothing wrong but we also need to see the opportunities and support to predict the strength of one of the teams that want to compete for the title. Manchester United is indeed much better now but we see that there are still many things that need to be done by Amorim, in the Premier League they lost to Arsenal so there are still many things that need to be fixed or improved. For this season Manchester United is still trying to build team performance and I have not seen their chances for the title competition will be more open, but anything can happen if Amorim can change Manchester United to be better in a short time.
I think sometimes a team has something that is being prioritized. I mean maybe in the EPL when playing against Arsenal, MU was only able to get a defeat but in fact when playing against other popular teams like Chelsea etc., Man United had good results. On the one hand for me the performance in the EPL will not affect MU performance in the European league. Because maybe for Amorim chasing the EPL title is something difficult and will prioritize the European league title to get a more prestigious title and appear simple when playing against top teams in the EPL.
I will not judge Ruben Amorim too quickly because it is very natural if they are unstable, especially after losing to Arsenal because Ruben Amorin came in the middle of the season, especially with old player material. So give Amorin time and also the players he wants, then we can see the real Amorin.

It must be admitted that Man United has made progress at this time, if still coached by Erik Ten maybe Man United will get a crushing defeat from Arsenal because under Erik Ten Hag the number of Man United defeats is more. For now, the most important thing is that they are on the right track, in terms of strategy there have been quite significant changes for Man United.

Man United under Ruben Amorim this season certainly will not be able to compete in the EPL league, because he entered in the middle of the season and he also has to adapt. So making the Europa League trophy a priority would make sense. Ruben Amorim has great ambitions for Man United this season, giving a trophy to Man United in his first season will certainly have an impact on the team's confidence so that it will have an impact on the next season. The two remaining matches in the Europa League will most likely be swept clean by Man United because if you look at the quality of their opponents, Man United is far superior and under Ruben Amorim, Man United is slowly starting to change and has a good playing character.
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December 07, 2024, 08:06:33 AM
Well now at the beginning this is a good start for Amorim. However, we also can't be that quick in concluding Amorim's performance.

It is still too early to judge Amorim's performance. We have to wait for him to form his team, not just the players currently in the squad, but he will clearly demand United to bring in the players he wants to achieve his targets. But at least this season, he must have a target or progress that shows a big improvement in United's game. In several matches now, we can see it but I'm sure Amorim has not judged it optimally. If Amorim shows satisfactory results this season, I'm sure Amorim will have a better and longer chance than Ten Hag.

United is so freaking bad that even Amorim's doesn't know how to start and rebuild this team so give him time because this team needs all the time in the world to recover after Ten Haag era.

However , like you said above , we can see some small ideas of Amorim already when we watch United but like I said , this team forgot to play football so it will take a while for them to actually have confidence in what Amorim is trying to implement.
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December 07, 2024, 07:49:26 AM

Arsenal are significantly superior to Manchester United this season, and I am confident that regardless of how they meet Manchester, they will have more possibilities to defeat United in all competitions. I don't think Amorim, Manchester United's new coach, is focused on the league. Is primary goal is to compete in the Europa League because they are no longer able to win the Premier League. Liverpool has already achieved it. I don't believe any club will be able to overtake them in the league right now, therefore his focus is now on other tournaments in which he still has a chance to win. Let's see how Manchester United will fare in the Europa League, and if they can win the trophy now that they have a better management this season. I believe that Manchester United will not finish this season without winning trophies. Am very impressed with the new coach performance since he came to the club is doing great and making the fans appreciate what is doing this season.
Well, I don't totally agree with you. In as much as Arsenal might be superior to Manchester United this season and in previous seasons, I don't think it will possible to win Manchester United currently in all competitions. The Premier League this season is out of reach for United, it is logical for Amorim to focus more on the Europa League as they have a chance of winning the trophy this season. If Manchester United manages to finish above mid table in the Premier League then Amorim would have done a good job in my opinion.
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