UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 28.

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Quote from: Inwestour on October 25, 2024, 01:58:18 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

In the Champions League and Europa League, Manchester performs particularly poorly and of the last 11 games, they could only win one in 2023 against Copenhagen. After that Manchester lost 5 times and drew 5 times, so to expect that Manchester should have won the match against Fenerbahce is also strange, considering the statistics of the past years.
Besides, Mourinho has coached Manchester before and he always performs well against his past teams and as usual he did not do without a show, so I think no one was surprised that the referee eventually showed Mourinho a red card and removed him from the field.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

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Twente made a mistake too quickly so they had to play with 10 players from the 11th minute and that was one of the factors they had to swallow defeat in the 3rd match of the Europa League hosting the visiting team Lazio. The defeat was unavoidable because they also found it difficult to develop their game. Just imagine having to play with 10 people even though it was said from the start of the match, it must not have been easy for them to find a balance in the game, because in terms of the number of players they were outnumbered. This was their first defeat in the Europa League and they have never won. Meanwhile, for Lazio, this victory allowed them to achieve perfect points from the 3 matches they have played, and that brought them to the top of the temporary Europa League standings.

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I took another risk in today 4 match after being disappointed with Braga failure in the first match, but in the 4 matches I chose I didn't watch all of them because I only wanted to focus on seeing how Manchester United played against Fenerbahce whether it could be match full of surprises or not.
Match was quite fierce from the start of the first half and Manchester United was ahead with 1 goal scored, they had many opportunities but it was in vain, as well as Fenerbahce who had several opportunities but were only able to penetrate Onana goal once and made the match end in draw, just as I predicted that Manchester United would find it difficult to win.

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I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

I agree with you that Mourinho must avoid red cards that are harmful for his teams only. However, I saw another fact that Jose Mourinho has become less reactive than in the past when he was a younger coach with more emotion. I want to say that even he tried to change himself, be more calm on pitch, and reduce his reactions, when he reacts, referees tend to be too strict with him.

I think you can consider how referees treat with other coaches, to see Jose Mourinho tends to receive stricter punishments in cards than other coaches. Referees tend to give less conversation, warnings to Mourinho and more likely give him a card directly.

Jose Mourinho in recent years have reduced his emotional reactions on the touchline to the barest minimum unlike what we used to see when he was a younger manager. The Portuguese coach however couldn't control his emotions last night in his side's 1:1 draw against Manchester United which was why he received a red card.
In the past, he has made statements that suggests that football referees are always against him but considering what happened in their game last night, I feel he deserved the red card. I hope he learns from it and improve his actions on the sidelines going forward

Bro are you really serious on what you are saying? Are you following Jose Mourinho touchline records recently ? Especially at Roma and this fernabache team he is handing now, if true you have been following him, you will definitely knows that his touchline antics hasn't left him, he is still the Jose Mourinho we all know.

Then as for last night game, though the ref wasn't bais as he believes, but their are some decisions that are quite questionable, but Jose Mourinho will keeps on behaving like Jose Mourinho, on my own part I never expect him to change because that's exactly who he is, he is very emotional when doing his job and that is part of the characteristics that makes most people love him, because he is not just a winner and a entertainer, but he always behaves like a grown up baby, which is quite pleasant and entertaining to watch.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on October 24, 2024, 10:09:12 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 24, 2024, 09:59:17 PM

I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

I agree with you that Mourinho must avoid red cards that are harmful for his teams only. However, I saw another fact that Jose Mourinho has become less reactive than in the past when he was a younger coach with more emotion. I want to say that even he tried to change himself, be more calm on pitch, and reduce his reactions, when he reacts, referees tend to be too strict with him.

I think you can consider how referees treat with other coaches, to see Jose Mourinho tends to receive stricter punishments in cards than other coaches. Referees tend to give less conversation, warnings to Mourinho and more likely give him a card directly.

Jose Mourinho in recent years have reduced his emotional reactions on the touchline to the barest minimum unlike what we used to see when he was a younger manager. The Portuguese coach however couldn't control his emotions last night in his side's 1:1 draw against Manchester United which was why he received a red card.
In the past, he has made statements that suggests that football referees are always against him but considering what happened in their game last night, I feel he deserved the red card. I hope he learns from it and improve his actions on the sidelines going forward

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I'm upset to see Fenerbahce didn't beat Manchester United, they actually have a possibility. Manchester United currently at 21th position, there are 5 match left against PAOK, Bodo, Viktoria, Rangers and FCSB. I'm sure they can beat PAOK, Viktoria and FCSB, but if they can't beat Bodo and Rangers, they will not able to reach top 8 positions.

Quote from: Zackz5000 on October 25, 2024, 12:06:50 AM

Manchester United inability to win 10 men Fenerbahce shows that Manchester United can't get better under the management of Erik Ten Hag.

Who was the player that received red card? Cheesy

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

Worst season for Manchester United so far right from the first Erik Ten Hag came to Manchester United as their couch he became to see some players as the problem of Manchester United, he saw David De Gee and Cristiano Ronaldo as the problem Manchester United is facing and he made this two to leave Manchester United and there worst season still continued. Erik Ten Hag is the problem Manchester United is facing now and now is the right time to fire him.

Manchester United were unable to win fenerbahce meanwhile they won the game in first half and I thought it will be an easy win for Manchester United because of Eriksen early goal for Manchester United before Fenerbahce En Nesyri has to equalize it in the 49th minutes in the second half to make it a 1-1 draw for the home team.

Manchester United inability to win 10 men Fenerbahce shows that Manchester United can't get better under the management of Erik Ten Hag.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on October 24, 2024, 04:35:26 PM

Good analysis Galatasaray plays incredibly well for a certain period of time in the matches they play, then they start conceding goals, no matter what the level of the opposing team is, they do this. They have made it a habit to score goals one after another and concede goals one after another.

The same thing happened in the RFS match, fortunately the match ended without anything more and Galatasaray was able to win. We have crazy attacking players, they have the potential for many things, all Galatasaray needs to do is stay in the game for 90 minutes.

Galatasaray seems to have settled its attacking problems but there are still lapses in the defensive midfield and the main defence. Maybe Okan Buruk is building an attacking side that scores plenty of goals but without having a good defence a good team can take advantage of that. It is now their custom to score goals in the first half lose the lead in the second half and begin to struggle to win the match. I can't really figure out what the coach needs to do but if it will require buying some good defenders this January to repace the weak link it will really help the team to chase titles effectively. Nevertheless, it was a good game and a well-deserved three points.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I believe that the management of Manchester United will understand that Ten Hag cannot move the club forward with the poor performance of his team in all matches that they have played this season in all competitions. It is clear now that, the players are not the problem but Ten Hag, and he should stop blaming the players and accept that he is not competent enough for the job. Imagine all the funds spent in buying players to make sure that the club performance improves, but it seems like a waste of resources because it didn't change anything.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

Ten Hag has yet to lead Man United to victory in the Europa League in three consecutive matches, a draw at Fenerbahce headquarters has made it increasingly difficult for Man United to improve their position in the standings. Man United game did not improve at all, I had hoped that Ten Hag could lead his team to a positive result, but En-Nesyri goal early in the second half made them fail to get three points again. The ongoing victory crisis that is attached to Man United needs to be evaluated by the management in order to achieve better results in the future, a change of coach may need to be made immediately.

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Unlucky again I have to lose my bet which is caused by only 1 match that destroys all opportunities, I thought in the Frankfurt vs Rigas match there would be more than 2.5 goals but it turned out that there was only 1 goal in this match which made my bet lose, previously I wanted to bet on Frankfurt's victory but I was a little hesitant and chose the Asian total I really regret not making Frankfurt a favorite win.

Speaking of the Manchester United match against Fenerbahce last night, the club again drew this is the 3rd time Man United has drawn and only collected 3 points, their position continues to decline I am increasingly doubtful of Man United's performance this season.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I have no joy watching Manchester United's gameplay these days. They're very boring and pragmatic. Fenerbahçe, their opponent, looked poor at the back. But Manchester United could not exploit it. They put almost no pressure on Fenerbahçe after they scored a goal and led the game.

Manchester United is a joke. Ten Hag's tactics are spineless and dull. They got three points from three Europa League games. Yet their coach still called it a result. His standard is in the gutter. Getting three points from three Europa League games is an utterly embarrassing result. It's clearly explained that Manchester United has no place in European competition.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 24, 2024, 09:59:17 PM

I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

I agree with you that Mourinho must avoid red cards that are harmful for his teams only. However, I saw another fact that Jose Mourinho has become less reactive than in the past when he was a younger coach with more emotion. I want to say that even he tried to change himself, be more calm on pitch, and reduce his reactions, when he reacts, referees tend to be too strict with him.

I think you can consider how referees treat with other coaches, to see Jose Mourinho tends to receive stricter punishments in cards than other coaches. Referees tend to give less conversation, warnings to Mourinho and more likely give him a card directly.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on October 24, 2024, 06:53:39 PM

I am still not convinced with Mourinho's team. they don't look like a team that can go all the way in this tournament. They were not attacking enough even thous they created a couple of chances. Lets see how they improve.

I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

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Now Man United is quite slumping both in the European League and the EPL and I demand Man United management to tell Ten Hag to get out of there otherwise we will continue to be hurt every time they play, there is no satisfaction in seeing Man United now under Ten Hag's guidance.

Did you just know? I already feel unsure of Ten Hag, even his statement in the process seems to be just to cover up his weaknesses. Today Man United draw must thank Onana, she made 2 crucial saves. I even laughed when Ten Hag put a Noussair Mazraoui behind the attacker. He looks stiff, but I think there are better options than this even though some players are injured. It seems that he does not believe in other players who are on the bench to force it. 1 point doesn't seem bad, but they should have gotten 3 points.

3rd draw for United Europa League. This performance is not good enough for United seeing the competition will definitely be more difficult. There are still 4 games left and Ten Hag should not think about another draw. They must get 3 points for each game to be able to compete for tickets to the next round.

Ten Hag's strategy like that makes me reluctant to bet on United. Betting on other teams is better for me because several times I bet on United, it didn't produce anything good.

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Quote from: Farma on October 24, 2024, 08:57:25 PM

Now Man United is quite slumping both in the European League and the EPL and I demand Man United management to tell Ten Hag to get out of there otherwise we will continue to be hurt every time they play, there is no satisfaction in seeing Man United now under Ten Hag's guidance.

Did you just know? I already feel unsure of Ten Hag, even his statement in the process seems to be just to cover up his weaknesses. Today Man United draw must thank Onana, she made 2 crucial saves. I even laughed when Ten Hag put a Noussair Mazraoui behind the attacker. He looks stiff, but I think there are better options than this even though some players are injured. It seems that he does not believe in other players who are on the bench to force it. 1 point doesn't seem bad, but they should have gotten 3 points.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on October 24, 2024, 04:35:26 PM

Good analysis Galatasaray plays incredibly well for a certain period of time in the matches they play, then they start conceding goals, no matter what the level of the opposing team is, they do this. They have made it a habit to score goals one after another and concede goals one after another.

The same thing happened in the RFS match, fortunately the match ended without anything more and Galatasaray was able to win. We have crazy attacking players, they have the potential for many things, all Galatasaray needs to do is stay in the game for 90 minutes.

For this match I did not see the best of Osimhen in the front line and although his performance was good, there were not many opportunities that he could take advantage of to score goals. On the other hand, Icardi was much better and was able to provide opportunities through the opening goal for Galatasaray and the most prominent performance of Yunus Akgun where he really gave his best performance in the match with his best ability in the position assigned.

Galatasaray's victory was not easy because there were many goals scored for both sides so they managed to get three points in the match even though they had to go through a slightly more difficult match.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

It is very unfortunate that Man United's name is already this big but is actually slumping, there is no change if you still see a coach who has no mission outside the field how he plays the core players and that makes everyone laugh at him because he put Mazraoui in the attack line, a ridiculous core player that he brought in to kill Man United fans, he really has no mission for this team and in my opinion after this Man United management made a fuss about the dismissal of the Dutch player, there is no point in maintaining a coach who does not build.

Now Man United is quite slumping both in the European League and the EPL and I demand Man United management to tell Ten Hag to get out of there otherwise we will continue to be hurt every time they play, there is no satisfaction in seeing Man United now under Ten Hag's guidance.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

Eriksen as a replacement for Bruno, scored an opening goal for Manchester United but playing 11 vs 10 players of Fenerbahce, they failed to secure three points. Jose Mourinho was sent off as a head coach, again, but his lads played well and did not let Manchester United and Ten Hag enjoying three points.

This draw is better than a defeat, but is not enough to help Ten Hag improving his situation in Manchester United and he will continue his job in next matches with pressure of being sacked after any defeat. This pressure is not comfortable for any coach and usually they will be sacked after all. Very few coaches can be luckily given enough patience and support from the club, Ten Hag has it, and managed to rescue their career with improvements, then success with their clubs. The second condition seems to not exist with Ten Hag management for Manchester United.

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