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Quote from: Egii Nna on September 18, 2024, 02:42:20 PM

I understand your expectations about Manchester United, and we know that they are actually trying their best when it comes to the Europa League, but we’ll all agree that they will definitely end up disappointing us again, but I don’t know if this season they might do something different, although they might still be strong and lose games with some small teams in the league because it has happened before.

They still have some slight chance of winning, and I can still agree with you that they will make it out of the group stage, but I don’t think they will be able to get the trophy because they always end up spoiling their performance when we are already in the middle of the season or even the end of the season, but I don’t know if they will change this season.

I think it would not be an exaggeration to say that the Europa League means almost nothing to Manchester United. If they had not even managed to get out of the group stage, but at the same time they had shown good results in the APL, at least held on to the top 4, then there would be no claims against them. And now, when the start for Manchester United in the APL was simply terrible, it is clear that ten Hag will try to achieve some results in other tournaments, but with the game they are showing now, I doubt that they are capable of winning the Europa League.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 18, 2024, 10:52:45 AM

I looked at the match fixtures and realized PAOK will have a very hard time advancing past playoffs.
Playing with Galatasaray and Manchester United?

It'll surely be entertaining to see these matches but I think PAOK will have a very hard time against such great teams. Nevertheless it's a honor to have two Greek teams in the league this year.
Hopefully PAOK and Olympiakos have some luck so we can see Greek football advancing with them.

Last season actually Olympiakos playing in this competition but because at the end of group stages they only able to finish at 3rd place then Olympiakos failed to advances to the next round and they have to playing at Conference League but surprisingly their performance at Conference League is very impressive and they can being an the champion of last season after beat Fiorentina at the final match

I am not too following the development of Greek clubs but as far as i know the clubs from this country is very rare to gets the trophies from European competitions even if i am not mistaken Greek clubs usually only being an weak teams for European Competitions so the achievement from Olympiakos is very special because this proven the clubs from Greek can able to gets the trophy

Olympiakos will starting their journey on Europa League when they fight against France club Lyon and this is their first meeting in this competition but Lyon performance is really unstable because at their domestic league Lyon still hard struggle to gets the winning result so probably Olympiakos can taking advantages from this situation and collect their first 3 points from Europa league

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If Erik Ten Hag is able to successfully win the FA cup and Carabao Cup that is huge success for the club because as they say “one big journey begins with just a step”. If Erik Ten Hag is capable of achieving that he can be trusted with the task of achieving even more with time. Right now, the main focus should be reviving the team and maintaining consistency this season.

Eric Ten Hag isn't the best coach for Manchester United and not a bad one either. He might be able to maintain Manchester United in one of the spots dedicated for UEFA competitions or he can progress with the team in a side competition like FA Cup but definitely it will be hard for him and his team to win other competitions especially EPL.

Maybe this will be a difference of opinion between us, because in my opinion even though they can be champions in the FA Cup for example, if the game is bad in the Premier League or other more prestigious Leagues it is still not enough. For example, what happened last season, they were saved and could be in the Europa League because with all their luck they managed to beat Manchester City. Will they continue to hope for luck.
At this time I can say that Erik Ten Hag is not the right coach for Manchester United, I can't see their promising performance, instead I see them continuing to decline. This season will be the season that Erik Ten Hag must prove, if Manchester United performs badly, then there is no reason for management to retain this coach.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 18, 2024, 10:52:45 AM

I looked at the match fixtures and realized PAOK will have a very hard time advancing past playoffs.
Playing with Galatasaray and Manchester United?

Indeed PAOK is truly in a very tight corner because Galatasaray is in their best for this season as they have shown in the few matches they have played so far. I will not think it twice picking them over PAOK because their scoring pattern this season is unique and the entrance of Victor Osimhen is a huge factor that will turn things in their favor. Manchester United is another experienced team in the Europa and even though they are not doing so great in their league, the Europa is a different game that comes with its peculiarities that I expect Man United to showcase something different and special.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on September 18, 2024, 02:42:20 PM

I understand your expectations about Manchester United, and we know that they are actually trying their best when it comes to the Europa League, but we’ll all agree that they will definitely end up disappointing us again, but I don’t know if this season they might do something different, although they might still be strong and lose games with some small teams in the league because it has happened before.

It is actually still too early to know how Man United will end this competition. However, Man United should have good chance to go far if we consider their squad strenght. Even if they sometimes dissapointed us, but they look playing better in the last 2 matches at least. After they were defeated by Liverpool, Man United won the match against Southampton with 3 goals and destroyed Barnsley with 7 goals. I think this is a good sign for Man United before the match against Twente in Europa league. If they can win against Twente, I am confident that Man United probably has a chance to reach semi-final or even the final round.

Quote from: Egii Nna on September 18, 2024, 02:42:20 PM

They still have some slight chance of winning, and I can still agree with you that they will make it out of the group stage, but I don’t think they will be able to get the trophy because they always end up spoiling their performance when we are already in the middle of the season or even the end of the season, but I don’t know if they will change this season.

In Europa league, ideally Man United should be one of the favorite teams for the champion. But due to their inconsistency, people doubt Man United to reach the final. However, with some new players, I think Man United changes a bit. If they can keep their good game, they potentially to play in the final round in Europa league. Now, it depends on Ten Hag, how Ten Hag to motivate all players to maintain their best level in playing.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 18, 2024, 02:23:41 PM

Manchester United will definitely look strong when it comes to Europa, this is a level they can play at and I am sure that they will be fine. I am not saying that they will win the title but they will definitely be favourites whenever they play a team and that's a good position to be in and I believe that they are going to have a good luck beating almost any team. There could be a shocking result here and there at times but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result, it just means that likely result being a win for them is the possibility in most games even maybe all games.

I think they have what it takes to win right now and Europa looks like it's a place they can get a win and that should be something that will do fine in the end. I know that we are going to see United be fine and not really lose games, at least they will get out of the group stages and then after that it depends on the bracket and who they are going to face against.

With the depth of the squad that Manchester United currently has, which is far better than all other contestants, Ten Hag should be able to present the Europa League trophy this season. In my opinion, many people are still influenced by the surprise that happened last season, but it seems unlikely that it will happen again. Meanwhile, we realize that Ten Hag priority scale remains in the Premier League, they are targeting to finish in the top four of the standings, while the Europa League trophy is in second place. The journey to get a ticket to the Champions League is actually easier to take through the Europa League, because the competition in the Premier League is much more competitive. On paper, even though Manchester United often experience ups and downs in performance, they are worthy enough to be placed in first place in the list of favorites to win. The 7-0 win over Barnsley in the League Cup was a sign that they have now found their best form.

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Just because someone unexpected won last year, doesn't mean that some unexpected team will end up winning as well. This is why I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see this season be something that will take a while and we are going to see this changing on that situation. I believe that there are few good teams this season and one of them will win it this year and will do fine.

We should be looking at this as something that will take a while and we are going to see this getting a good result because big teams spend way too much money to not win this one, they need to show at least "some" success to fans. Like for example United has to win this, doesn't mean they will but as a big team they will keep trying harder and that should be meaning something and if they can win then ETH could keep his job so they will do their very best to try to win this one. Unless players sell out the game just to get him fired which isn't that unlikely.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 18, 2024, 02:23:41 PM

Manchester United will definitely look strong when it comes to Europa, this is a level they can play at and I am sure that they will be fine. I am not saying that they will win the title but they will definitely be favourites whenever they play a team and that's a good position to be in and I believe that they are going to have a good luck beating almost any team. There could be a shocking result here and there at times but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result, it just means that likely result being a win for them is the possibility in most games even maybe all games.

I think they have what it takes to win right now and Europa looks like it's a place they can get a win and that should be something that will do fine in the end. I know that we are going to see United be fine and not really lose games, at least they will get out of the group stages and then after that it depends on the bracket and who they are going to face against.

I understand your expectations about Manchester United, and we know that they are actually trying their best when it comes to the Europa League, but we’ll all agree that they will definitely end up disappointing us again, but I don’t know if this season they might do something different, although they might still be strong and lose games with some small teams in the league because it has happened before.

They still have some slight chance of winning, and I can still agree with you that they will make it out of the group stage, but I don’t think they will be able to get the trophy because they always end up spoiling their performance when we are already in the middle of the season or even the end of the season, but I don’t know if they will change this season.

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Manchester United will definitely look strong when it comes to Europa, this is a level they can play at and I am sure that they will be fine. I am not saying that they will win the title but they will definitely be favourites whenever they play a team and that's a good position to be in and I believe that they are going to have a good luck beating almost any team. There could be a shocking result here and there at times but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result, it just means that likely result being a win for them is the possibility in most games even maybe all games.

I think they have what it takes to win right now and Europa looks like it's a place they can get a win and that should be something that will do fine in the end. I know that we are going to see United be fine and not really lose games, at least they will get out of the group stages and then after that it depends on the bracket and who they are going to face against.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 18, 2024, 10:52:45 AM

I looked at the match fixtures and realized PAOK will have a very hard time advancing past playoffs.
Playing with Galatasaray and Manchester United?

It'll surely be entertaining to see these matches but I think PAOK will have a very hard time against such great teams. Nevertheless it's a honor to have two Greek teams in the league this year.
Hopefully PAOK and Olympiakos have some luck so we can see Greek football advancing with them.

Their first match away to Galatasaray's headquarters will be difficult to win by Răzvan Lucescu's team considering that Galatasaray is currently bringing in Osimhen, but if they are aiming for a draw, Paok could have a chance because the Turkish league is not as strong as other leagues. I have seen some of their UEFA schedules, in the two matches they will face PCSB and FC Viktoria Plzeň
to achieve positive results, the chances are very big, and could be good capital for the next match against Man United.
However, if we talk about the chances of qualifying for the next phase, Paok does not have enough chances, I am more sure that Olimpyakos as a representative of the Greek league will qualify.

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I looked at the match fixtures and realized PAOK will have a very hard time advancing past playoffs.
Playing with Galatasaray and Manchester United?

It'll surely be entertaining to see these matches but I think PAOK will have a very hard time against such great teams. Nevertheless it's a honor to have two Greek teams in the league this year.
Hopefully PAOK and Olympiakos have some luck so we can see Greek football advancing with them.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 17, 2024, 10:48:19 AM

What happened last season in Europa League was a big surprise and that has made me come to conclusion that it is impossible to know which team will be able to win Europa this season. Atalanta showed their superiority over Leverkusen and that is what baffles me with all the clubs Leverkusen played and remained unbeaten but it wasn't so in the finals.

I don't know which club is capable of surprising us again this season but as time goes on, we will see that club because I don't think that United will be able to win this league but if they do, it will be a shock to me and Ten Hag will remain their coach for long.

In this season, we are having 36 teams with all are going to play first time with this new format which is quite interesting and things are not easy for predicting who is going through for the last rounds few teams are quite strong but as we all know UEFA Europa Cup is always having surprises and upsets, so things can go either way for any team while few are looking favourite in early rounds, but this can take change.

Most chances situation will be clear after end of first round when we will have 16 teams which will be fight for the spots into quarterfinals then things will be much better, and we will be able to have better view about who is going for the title race this time we will have no team from Champions League which is also good as these teams will be able to each other until end of this cup with all teams will have level in competition for the title race.

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They had several great seasons and usually were competitive enough to join top four or top six of Serie A. Some years ago, in 2020 - 2021 season they had an amazing journey in Champions League too. Atalanta are a competitive team and they are quite familiar with the air in Europe like Champions League and Europa League.

Atalanta is like Tottenham, a team that not enough to become a champion and at the same time, not that weak to be relegated.

However, Atalanta was able to qualify to the round of 16 because they're in weak group, there are Liverpool, them, Ajax and Midtjylland. At that time we all sure Liverpool and Atalanta will qualify. But in round of 16 they met one of strongest team, they even lose in their home.

Not an amazing journey I think.

I agree with you that they are not a very strong team, but not a very weak team either, they are in the middle and slightly better than the teams in the middle. Alatanta's success last season when they became champions in the European League, in my opinion, was also the result of their hard work but it was accompanied by luck, because they managed to become champions because they beat the teams that were very favored to become champions. Atalanta are now in the Champions League, I'm not too sure that they will be able to compete. Not because I underestimate them, but this is just my assessment when comparing them with other teams in the Champions League, although it is not impossible that they will be able to provide a big surprise.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on September 18, 2024, 04:17:22 AM

If Erik Ten Hag is able to successfully win the FA cup and Carabao Cup that is huge success for the club because as they say “one big journey begins with just a step”. If Erik Ten Hag is capable of achieving that he can be trusted with the task of achieving even more with time. Right now, the main focus should be reviving the team and maintaining consistency this season.

Eric Ten Hag isn't the best coach for Manchester United and not a bad one either. He might be able to maintain Manchester United in one of the spots dedicated for UEFA competitions or he can progress with the team in a side competition like FA Cup but definitely it will be hard for him and his team to win other competitions especially EPL.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on September 17, 2024, 08:42:40 AM

They had several great seasons and usually were competitive enough to join top four or top six of Serie A. Some years ago, in 2020 - 2021 season they had an amazing journey in Champions League too. Atalanta are a competitive team and they are quite familiar with the air in Europe like Champions League and Europa League.

Atalanta is like Tottenham, a team that not enough to become a champion and at the same time, not that weak to be relegated.

However, Atalanta was able to qualify to the round of 16 because they're in weak group, there are Liverpool, them, Ajax and Midtjylland. At that time we all sure Liverpool and Atalanta will qualify. But in round of 16 they met one of strongest team, they even lose in their home.

Not an amazing journey I think.

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Even their coach doesn't believe the premiere league is something they can win this season so I don't think either if it's something they can be able to go for because of they could have it would start from their coach, now back to the Europa, they have their similar equals with which they can throw their weights, if they don't do the best they can of the Europa then they may literally finish this season without a trophy, this has been the bragging right of ten hag that he's been able to get a trophy every season despite his said performance, in fact he said in the last two seasons, after Manchester City, Manchester United is the second with the highest number of trophies in the premier league so he need to continue in that light and that's why winning the Europa is a must for him.

Ten Hag currently has a very heavy demand, he must continue to improve the condition of Man United despite the bad criticism that is spread. Everyone admits that Ten Hag actually has the desire and has tried his best to do the best. But sometimes there is something we don't know behind all these problems. Man United will definitely try their best in this European league to restore the trust of the fans and if they still fail without any trophies, maybe changing coaches is one of the best ways in the coming season.

Manchester United management had the chance to sack Ten hang and find a new coach but yet they retained Ten Hag, I guess they have their reason since Erik is not just the problem but the players as well. It’s so easy to say than putting effort, I could remember Manchester United promising a good season this time around but let’s hope for something good. If Manchester United fail to perform excellent this time fans might talk about Ten hag and it might lead to finding a new coach so it’s best Ten hag put more effort this time since he’s the target.

If Erik Ten Hag is able to successfully win the FA cup and Carabao Cup that is huge success for the club because as they say “one big journey begins with just a step”. If Erik Ten Hag is capable of achieving that he can be trusted with the task of achieving even more with time. Right now, the main focus should be reviving the team and maintaining consistency this season.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on September 17, 2024, 03:00:51 PM

Osimhen is a good player no doubt and Galatasaray is a lucky team right now but, I don’t expect Osimhen to do all the work load except the team don’t want to improve besides he is not so good in every angle. At least Osimhen is a helping hand with or without a quality player, my point here is they need to back Osimhen up for positive result because he might leave early depending on his contract.

If Osimhen makes Galatasaray a bridge to jump to another team one day, he must also be able to develop better in this Galatasaray team because other teams will not want to look at him if he doesn't perform better in the Galatasaray squad this season. In addition, Galatasaray who are also in the Europa League this season must also be able to play as well as possible and also fully support Osimhen in every match for a better achievement before Osimhen leaves for another team because I am also sure that Osimhen will not last too long in Galatasaray.

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If you look even more broadly, let alone Liverpool who have good potential at the beginning of last season in the Europa League which is very convincing can lose when dealing with Atalanta, Bayer Leverkusen only has a very good victory and in the gadang-gadang will be the winning of the Europa League can lose By Atalanta, basically indeed Atalanta has an extraordinary ability to get a victory last season, it has become the time for them to get the Europa League, but many of us seem not to accept that the winners are Atalanta, it is because they are not famous but can silence other teams .

So true, anything can happen to an underdog team can rise up certain teams, and the consistency of ingenuity is very expensive.

The European League can be said to be a big opportunity for Manchester United to improve on the failed Champions League tournament as well as to improve in the English Premier League, but how much they can use that opportunity is now at the center of discussion. Manchester United are favored by the number of teams that have qualified for the Europa League, but with Manchester United's recent performances, there are doubts that they will do well in the Europa League. In the Premier League competition we see them losing some easy matches and winning one match losing multiple matches. On the other hand their team manager is trying to play the team with the same strategy where they are always failing. Premier League and Europa League are two different tournaments so different strategies should be applied in both tournaments if Manchester United want to do well

With a note that Ten Hag can maximize this opportunity to rebuild his reputation that has been criticized by many people because Manchester United continues to decline, Manchester United needs to improve themselves more if they want to fix it in the Europa League, but I am very unsure if they will get a win if they continue like this, there are still many teams that have the opportunity to win, we know that in the English Premier League Man United is very bad at the moment, I highly doubt that this season they will not even bring home 1 trophy if they do not introspect.

If Manchester United's performance had changed, we might have expected better things to come under this manager. But we can see that Manchester United is the same as before and sometimes it seems that their performance has decreased even more. In that case, Manchester United has given their current manager the opportunity to improve but he is not able to take advantage of those opportunities and is taking Manchester United to a worse level. Manchester United cannot be expected to win the title in any tournament with the performance they are currently doing. Their far-fetched plan to win the English Premier League title is questionable whether they can finish between numbers one and five this season.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on September 17, 2024, 03:02:17 AM

Yes, we have seen this a lot in recent years. The teams that were considered favorites at the beginning of the season could not win the cup at the end of the season. In fact, while everyone was expecting Bayer Leverkusen to be champions in the final match last year, Atalanta defeated them and made them taste their only defeat of the year. They even beat them with a clear score of 3-0. That is why favorite teams can be eliminated in such tournaments. Tournaments need to be taken very seriously.

When it comes to tournaments like the European competitions where teams have to compete from different league to book a spot in the European competitions, I don’t look down on any team because they’ve already passed through a tough competition before coming out amongst the many teams to represent them in the European competition. For them to have qualified to that level, one should know that those teams can be able to prove their myth in those matches and become something else they don’t expect from them.

Any team that is looked down on when playing in competitions like this, will only give a surprise defeat to their opponent and by the time they want to show the same pressure and handle the team like every other team, it would have been too late to make any adjustments in the game that will be in their favor. Treating all teams the same is the best thing to do if you want to go far and prevail in tough competitions like this ones.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 17, 2024, 03:26:18 AM

So many easy games on paper during tonight and tomorrow night games as these are really inviting to put quite a few of them in a parlay and put a massive amount to them yet it is very dangerous to go this route. I think from last season experience that surprise happen in here massively and I would refrain from going the route in betting a lot of money for these games. Maybe I try all games of tonight with different goal options and put a decent amount hoping to hit a nice win, most people usually do win in Champions League games so I also to be one of them tonight.

Because the format applied is a league, where each team will try to be in the top eight and thus, the leading teams will maximize the victory with a big score. Unlike in the previous format when it was still in the group stage to qualify for the round of 16, in the old format each leading team was at least not so maximal to win because the match will also be played at home and away, but in this new format it is not.

Therefore, it does not seem surprising that in today's match some of the leading teams really maximized it by winning with a big score too. Therefore, I am sure that the Europa League that just willbe played next week will also be interesting. So yes, I think this new format is even more interesting,because each team will really maximize to be in the top eight as a requirement to qualify for the knockout phase later.

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