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Quote from: joker_josue on February 10, 2022, 11:42:18 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 10, 2022, 07:55:28 AM

Two former titans from Italy and Spain Grin

As for the bets, it is obviously worth betting on BTTS and on the total over 2.5. But in my opinion, it's better to bet on Napoli, because after some successes (which don't really mean anything), Barcelona are greatly overestimated. I think that this is reflected in the odds, which means that the bet on Napoli is profitable.

Barcelona are well-regarded in bookmakers, because of their history in the last 10/15 years. Which is way better than Napolis.
Despite this season things are going better for Napolis, Barcelona have improved their performance in recent weeks. Making it even harder to see who will win.

He continued to think that Napoli has greater possibilities to pass the tie, the result will depend a lot on the performance of Barcelona, which at the moment is very unpredictable.

I call these situations "distorted odds". The crowd is betting not on facts, but on "names". Naturally, the name of Barcelona is louder and most of the non-professional betters bet on it. The bookmakers adjust the odds in such a way that they will always be in the black regardless of the outcome, so the odds do not reflect the actual strength of the teams. Therefore, it seems to me that in this pair, the bet on Napoli is profitable.

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Quote from: AndySt on February 09, 2022, 05:56:45 PM

In any case, the priority is in the Spanish Championship, because that is where the main chance to get into the Champions League for next season is, and Barcelona, with its financial situation and costs, this is vital. On the other hand, of course, no one is going to give up the Europa League, because this is extra money, the only remaining chance for the title, an additional chance to reach the Champions League. Another question is that there will be only one winner and it will be damn difficult to become one, because a bunch of teams will also strive for this. Right now, the first thing to do is to pass Napoli, which shows a fairly high level of play and results this season.

It is certainly going to be really hard to predict the winner. But I believe that good days are ahead of Barcelona from this point. They look like they have the motivation right now and it reflects in their performance.
I also think that Barcelona should set their first target to be the Spanish cup winner and secondly play the champions League.

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Quote from: asus09 on February 10, 2022, 12:14:42 AM

Quote from: manok jepang on February 08, 2022, 01:28:48 PM

barcelona vs napoli will play next week in the Europa League, where in the domestic match both teams both got positive results barcelona won 2 goals without reply with atletico madrid, while napoli won with the same score 2-0 against venezia, but in the match barca vs napoli in the european league next week I favor Napoli more, because navoli game is more consistent than barca's game under care Xavi Hernandez, in this match i will bet 1-0 on napoli's victory.

although the second caste of Europe but the matches that are served are very interesting for the audience to enjoy, the meeting of the two teams can be said to be a big match, this match will be very interesting because both teams are giant European teams. maximum in their own league, Barcelona have started to rise, in yesterday's match Barcelona managed to beat ATM with a score of 4-2, Napoli are now playing very well, last week Napoli managed to beat Venezia with a score of 2-0, Barcelona are now ranked 4 standings, while Napoli are in second place in the standings in their respective leagues.

Honestly, I am impressed by Barcelona's performance. They have improved as a team and performing really well right now and I honestly don't think that at this moment anyone can guess how they actually started the season. They have done really well to be in the top four spots.

Napoli has also surprised me this season as they have climbed back up to the second place of their league but unlike Barcelona, they started the league quite good but in the middle, they lost their way and now they are performing daily good again.

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 10, 2022, 11:34:20 AM

Quote from: manok jepang on February 08, 2022, 01:28:48 PM

barcelona vs napoli will play next week in the Europa League, where in the domestic match both teams both got positive results barcelona won 2 goals without reply with atletico madrid, while napoli won with the same score 2-0 against venezia, but in the match barca vs napoli in the european league next week I favor Napoli more, because navoli game is more consistent than barca's game under care Xavi Hernandez, in this match i will bet 1-0 on napoli's victory.

Starting from when the fixtures was made, Barcelona was really in a shambolic situation. They were down both in game play and in finance. They struggle to win or draw any match.
In the other hand, Napoli was doing great. I predicted that Napoli will win the match. But with the current form and growth of Barcelona, they can collect the whole 3 points if they really want to

LaLiga and the Europa League's next four matches will be crucial for them. In the UEL play-offs against Napoli, Alves will miss matches for Atletico red. Alves' absence will be felt, but one thing that must be done is to win. They can suffer a significant setback in their hopes of reaching the UCL with the upcoming games. The Catalans are capable of collecting all three points against Napoli. Let's hope Xavi can handle all the challenges and find a way to succeed.

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 10, 2022, 11:34:20 AM

Quote from: manok jepang on February 08, 2022, 01:28:48 PM

barcelona vs napoli will play next week in the Europa League, where in the domestic match both teams both got positive results barcelona won 2 goals without reply with atletico madrid, while napoli won with the same score 2-0 against venezia, but in the match barca vs napoli in the european league next week I favor Napoli more, because navoli game is more consistent than barca's game under care Xavi Hernandez, in this match i will bet 1-0 on napoli's victory.

Starting from when the fixtures was made, Barcelona was really in a shambolic situation. They were down both in game play and in finance. They struggle to win or draw any match.
In the other hand, Napoli was doing great. I predicted that Napoli will win the match. But with the current form and growth of Barcelona, they can collect the whole 3 points if they really want to

This is the knockout stage and even though they will play home and away but still, they will play with maximum effort. As said, Barcelona at the start of the season was very chaotic but now it looks like Barcelona are getting close or maybe already at their best. With the changes Xavi has made so far I think it is a good change for Barcelona, and I am still optimistic that Barcelona can be a team that will continue to qualify.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 10, 2022, 07:55:28 AM

Two former titans from Italy and Spain Grin

As for the bets, it is obviously worth betting on BTTS and on the total over 2.5. But in my opinion, it's better to bet on Napoli, because after some successes (which don't really mean anything), Barcelona are greatly overestimated. I think that this is reflected in the odds, which means that the bet on Napoli is profitable.

Barcelona are well-regarded in bookmakers, because of their history in the last 10/15 years. Which is way better than Napolis.
Despite this season things are going better for Napolis, Barcelona have improved their performance in recent weeks. Making it even harder to see who will win.

He continued to think that Napoli has greater possibilities to pass the tie, the result will depend a lot on the performance of Barcelona, which at the moment is very unpredictable.

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Quote from: manok jepang on February 08, 2022, 01:28:48 PM

barcelona vs napoli will play next week in the Europa League, where in the domestic match both teams both got positive results barcelona won 2 goals without reply with atletico madrid, while napoli won with the same score 2-0 against venezia, but in the match barca vs napoli in the european league next week I favor Napoli more, because navoli game is more consistent than barca's game under care Xavi Hernandez, in this match i will bet 1-0 on napoli's victory.

Starting from when the fixtures was made, Barcelona was really in a shambolic situation. They were down both in game play and in finance. They struggle to win or draw any match.
In the other hand, Napoli was doing great. I predicted that Napoli will win the match. But with the current form and growth of Barcelona, they can collect the whole 3 points if they really want to

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Quote from: SirLancelot on February 09, 2022, 04:20:58 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 09, 2022, 12:59:01 PM

Why not? Barcelona have a weak defense, so we can assume that they will definitely concede a few goals, so with this in mind they will try to score a lot of goals (by the way, like in the match with Atlético). Therefore, I will hope for the same bright matches. It will be cool if both matches end with such a score (4-2) and everything will be decided in extra time.

Both teams having good history of goals in their matches, and recently we already watch Barcelona and Napoli both having issues in defence which creating problems for them, so we can expect some good number of goals in this match as well because Napoli is already doing good job and now with some recent changes Barcelona is also able to score few goals which will help some good soccer contest between these both giants from Spain and Italy.

Hopefully we will have some good number of goals in first league of match which is going to play at Barcelona as recently we already have some good number of goals in between two quality teams from Spain, so this can happen again in this match. Better option for first league is Barcelona and over2.5.

Two former titans from Italy and Spain Grin

As for the bets, it is obviously worth betting on BTTS and on the total over 2.5. But in my opinion, it's better to bet on Napoli, because after some successes (which don't really mean anything), Barcelona are greatly overestimated. I think that this is reflected in the odds, which means that the bet on Napoli is profitable.

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on February 10, 2022, 01:24:14 AM

Quote from: judas on February 03, 2022, 02:58:16 PM

Another big matchup in this round of the tournament is Porto - Lazio of course. We should be watching a great rivalry between them in both games. It is not easy to predict which side is ahead here. Porto are really good in their domestic league now. But I can't say it for the European tournaments. They have been out of the Champions League group stage. However their group was really tough too. They should still be grateful for not being eliminated completely from the European tournaments for this season. And Lazio are doing a decent job in the Serie A. Their group stage performance here wasn't a very bad one also. I think both of the games will end by a close score and Lazio might eliminate them maybe.

From the results of the meeting between the two teams, Porto was more superior, from two meetings between the two teams in the UEFA league, Porto vs Lazio, once a draw and once again Porto won a landslide victory with a score of 4-1 in 2013, Lazio had just been bent by AC Milan in the Cup. Copa Italia, Lazio are now in 6th place in the standings, they are playing less consistently now, while Porto are still firmly at the top of the standings by collecting 59 points. when facing Lazio on the 18th meeting later, even though Porto have been left by their mainstay striker, Porto are still the favorites in this match.

Porto is now ruling the Primeira League. They are 6 points ahead of Sporting which is in the second place of the table. Out of 21 matches, only 2 matches have been drawn, no match has been lost. They have been able to maintain consistency this season. Lazio, on the other hand, are not weak but they are not consistent. They also lost 4-0 to AC Milan yesterday. So in Lazio vs Porto match I think Porto team is the favorite.

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Quote from: judas on February 03, 2022, 02:58:16 PM

Another big matchup in this round of the tournament is Porto - Lazio of course. We should be watching a great rivalry between them in both games. It is not easy to predict which side is ahead here. Porto are really good in their domestic league now. But I can't say it for the European tournaments. They have been out of the Champions League group stage. However their group was really tough too. They should still be grateful for not being eliminated completely from the European tournaments for this season. And Lazio are doing a decent job in the Serie A. Their group stage performance here wasn't a very bad one also. I think both of the games will end by a close score and Lazio might eliminate them maybe.

From the results of the meeting between the two teams, Porto was more superior, from two meetings between the two teams in the UEFA league, Porto vs Lazio, once a draw and once again Porto won a landslide victory with a score of 4-1 in 2013, Lazio had just been bent by AC Milan in the Cup. Copa Italia, Lazio are now in 6th place in the standings, they are playing less consistently now, while Porto are still firmly at the top of the standings by collecting 59 points. when facing Lazio on the 18th meeting later, even though Porto have been left by their mainstay striker, Porto are still the favorites in this match.

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Quote from: manok jepang on February 08, 2022, 01:28:48 PM

barcelona vs napoli will play next week in the Europa League, where in the domestic match both teams both got positive results barcelona won 2 goals without reply with atletico madrid, while napoli won with the same score 2-0 against venezia, but in the match barca vs napoli in the european league next week I favor Napoli more, because navoli game is more consistent than barca's game under care Xavi Hernandez, in this match i will bet 1-0 on napoli's victory.

although the second caste of Europe but the matches that are served are very interesting for the audience to enjoy, the meeting of the two teams can be said to be a big match, this match will be very interesting because both teams are giant European teams. maximum in their own league, Barcelona have started to rise, in yesterday's match Barcelona managed to beat ATM with a score of 4-2, Napoli are now playing very well, last week Napoli managed to beat Venezia with a score of 2-0, Barcelona are now ranked 4 standings, while Napoli are in second place in the standings in their respective leagues.

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Quote from: baeva on February 09, 2022, 05:22:07 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on February 07, 2022, 12:34:38 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 07, 2022, 08:49:37 AM

Barcelona are of course in a better position now because they will have a much easier match ahead of Napoli. They will play with Espanyol and it is unlikely that there will be any problems there.
As for additional earnings in the Europa League, this is nonsense - have you seen the amount of Barcelona's debt? I think that first of all Barcelona will try to gain a foothold in 4th place in the championship in order not to miss out on a ticket to the Champions League next year.

No more. Barcelona's focus will always be on getting a place to qualify for next season's Champions League. And despite having a better team now, he still has to work hard in the Spanish championship to secure that position.
That's why the Europa League will always be considered a second priority. There may even be an easier game now with Napolis (I don't think it will be), but as the competition progresses it won't be like that anymore, and Barcelona won't risk it.

Hm, well, all in all - the squad is fresh, maybe it will beat Napoli. So I don't think they will have the Spanish Championship in first place. The two leagues will be evenly matched for them. The first is to qualify for the Champions League. The second is to avoid embarrassing themselves in front of the fans, I still hold the same opinion. If they beat Napoli, they will get to 1/4 or even 1/2

In any case, the priority is in the Spanish Championship, because that is where the main chance to get into the Champions League for next season is, and Barcelona, with its financial situation and costs, this is vital. On the other hand, of course, no one is going to give up the Europa League, because this is extra money, the only remaining chance for the title, an additional chance to reach the Champions League. Another question is that there will be only one winner and it will be damn difficult to become one, because a bunch of teams will also strive for this. Right now, the first thing to do is to pass Napoli, which shows a fairly high level of play and results this season.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 07, 2022, 12:34:38 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 07, 2022, 08:49:37 AM

Barcelona are of course in a better position now because they will have a much easier match ahead of Napoli. They will play with Espanyol and it is unlikely that there will be any problems there.
As for additional earnings in the Europa League, this is nonsense - have you seen the amount of Barcelona's debt? I think that first of all Barcelona will try to gain a foothold in 4th place in the championship in order not to miss out on a ticket to the Champions League next year.

No more. Barcelona's focus will always be on getting a place to qualify for next season's Champions League. And despite having a better team now, he still has to work hard in the Spanish championship to secure that position.

That's why the Europa League will always be considered a second priority. There may even be an easier game now with Napolis (I don't think it will be), but as the competition progresses it won't be like that anymore, and Barcelona won't risk it.

Hm, well, all in all - the squad is fresh, maybe it will beat Napoli. So I don't think they will have the Spanish Championship in first place. The two leagues will be evenly matched for them. The first is to qualify for the Champions League. The second is to avoid embarrassing themselves in front of the fans, I still hold the same opinion. If they beat Napoli, they will get to 1/4 or even 1/2

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 09, 2022, 12:59:01 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on February 09, 2022, 11:36:26 AM

Really, we shouldn't expect many goals in these two games.
But, with the new rules of UEFA, in which the goals were no longer, than they had in the tie, which should expect a much bigger goal quest by both teams.
That will certainly be noticed in this match, as in the other matches of the European competitions.

Why not? Barcelona have a weak defense, so we can assume that they will definitely concede a few goals, so with this in mind they will try to score a lot of goals (by the way, like in the match with Atlético). Therefore, I will hope for the same bright matches. It will be cool if both matches end with such a score (4-2) and everything will be decided in extra time.

Both teams having good history of goals in their matches, and recently we already watch Barcelona and Napoli both having issues in defence which creating problems for them, so we can expect some good number of goals in this match as well because Napoli is already doing good job and now with some recent changes Barcelona is also able to score few goals which will help some good soccer contest between these both giants from Spain and Italy.

Hopefully we will have some good number of goals in first league of match which is going to play at Barcelona as recently we already have some good number of goals in between two quality teams from Spain, so this can happen again in this match. Better option for first league is Barcelona and over2.5.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 09, 2022, 11:36:26 AM

Really, we shouldn't expect many goals in these two games.
But, with the new rules of UEFA, in which the goals were no longer, than they had in the tie, which should expect a much bigger goal quest by both teams.
That will certainly be noticed in this match, as in the other matches of the European competitions.

Why not? Barcelona have a weak defense, so we can assume that they will definitely concede a few goals, so with this in mind they will try to score a lot of goals (by the way, like in the match with Atlético). Therefore, I will hope for the same bright matches. It will be cool if both matches end with such a score (4-2) and everything will be decided in extra time.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 09, 2022, 08:49:29 AM

However Napoli is on the top for a reason, and hence they won’t be so easy to beat and thus I feel this match will be very tough for both the sides and we’ll see very less goals in these fixtures.

Really, we shouldn't expect many goals in these two games.
But, with the new rules of UEFA, in which the goals were no longer, than they had in the tie, which should expect a much bigger goal quest by both teams.
That will certainly be noticed in this match, as in the other matches of the European competitions.

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Quote from: Slow death on February 09, 2022, 06:53:29 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on February 08, 2022, 12:15:48 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 08, 2022, 08:27:28 AM

For both teams, the domestic championship is a priority. For Napoli because they are fighting for the title, and for Barcelona because they risk not getting into the top 4 and missing the next season of the Champions League. But if we consider this game between them separately, it is obvious that Barcelona are in a better position (simply because of the calendar) and they will have a little more strength than Napoli. By the return match, everything can change, but now it is.

I agree.
Barcelona, after having managed to beat Atlético Madrid, was in a more comfortable position to guarantee being in the top 4.
Napoli, on the other hand, is in a tight fight for first place, as it only takes a small slip to drop to 3rd place.

So, despite both teams not going with maximum strength for that match, Barcelona will be more comfortable to risk more.

for this game I think like this:

on the one hand we have barcelona who have been improving with each game, but have failure in defense and have improved a lot in their attack

on the other hand we have napoli that also has failure when play against weak teams in the last games, maybe they just had exhaustions as in the last games they also showed some improvements

for this match barcelona will only be able to win if they have a solid defense

I too agree that Barcelona has improved a lot, and as I had posted here earlier if they got the correct player’s then they’ll definitely give a tough time to Napoli, and they indeed got good player’s in January which has further strengthened them.

However Napoli is on the top for a reason, and hence they won’t be so easy to beat and thus I feel this match will be very tough for both the sides and we’ll see very less goals in these fixtures.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 08, 2022, 12:15:48 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 08, 2022, 08:27:28 AM

For both teams, the domestic championship is a priority. For Napoli because they are fighting for the title, and for Barcelona because they risk not getting into the top 4 and missing the next season of the Champions League. But if we consider this game between them separately, it is obvious that Barcelona are in a better position (simply because of the calendar) and they will have a little more strength than Napoli. By the return match, everything can change, but now it is.

I agree.
Barcelona, after having managed to beat Atlético Madrid, was in a more comfortable position to guarantee being in the top 4.
Napoli, on the other hand, is in a tight fight for first place, as it only takes a small slip to drop to 3rd place.

So, despite both teams not going with maximum strength for that match, Barcelona will be more comfortable to risk more.

for this game I think like this:

on the one hand we have barcelona who have been improving with each game, but have failure in defense and have improved a lot in their attack

on the other hand we have napoli that also has failure when play against weak teams in the last games, maybe they just had exhaustions as in the last games they also showed some improvements

for this match barcelona will only be able to win if they have a solid defense

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on February 08, 2022, 01:33:19 PM

For now, I think Barcelona have to concentrate more on the league. Because they want to play in the Champions league next year. Therefore, they will give more importance to league matches. I'm sure they will do their best in the European league, though. However, the team they will face is Napoli. This year they are very good and strong enough to beat the Spanish team.

Personally, I see a greater probability that Napolis will win this Barcelona, than the other way around. But I also have to admit that Barcelona have improved a lot in their performance in the last month. So you can give Napolis a little more fight.

Even if the focus is not on the Europa League, no team likes to lose and so they will certainly try to win the qualifiers, even if some of Barcelona main players are on the bench at the beginning.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 07, 2022, 12:34:38 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 07, 2022, 08:49:37 AM

Barcelona are of course in a better position now because they will have a much easier match ahead of Napoli. They will play with Espanyol and it is unlikely that there will be any problems there.
As for additional earnings in the Europa League, this is nonsense - have you seen the amount of Barcelona's debt? I think that first of all Barcelona will try to gain a foothold in 4th place in the championship in order not to miss out on a ticket to the Champions League next year.

No more. Barcelona's focus will always be on getting a place to qualify for next season's Champions League. And despite having a better team now, he still has to work hard in the Spanish championship to secure that position.

That's why the Europa League will always be considered a second priority. There may even be an easier game now with Napolis (I don't think it will be), but as the competition progresses it won't be like that anymore, and Barcelona won't risk it.

For now, I think Barcelona have to concentrate more on the league. Because they want to play in the Champions league next year. Therefore, they will give more importance to league matches. I'm sure they will do their best in the European league, though. However, the team they will face is Napoli. This year they are very good and strong enough to beat the Spanish team.

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