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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 01, 2022, 06:59:53 PM

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Barcelona have to fight until die on UEFA Europa League after elimination from UEFA Champion League and now this competition as the only one chance how to make Barcelona have slot for champion league at the next season.

I read the words: fight until die, and I think about dying on this club right now. Cheesy

Exactly, the fact that Barcelona has been eliminated in the group phase of the UEFA Champion League may make them stressed enough. Moreover they were a big team. But now, it seems they need multiple powers again to fight in the UEFA Europa League.
Will it be easy? Of course not. We can see from the previous matches done by this club during the group phases, it was very hard for Barcelona.
Except that the club can exactly re-manage their team, strategy, and also powersagain to be better and better, with new or updated tactics.

Yeah, I don't think that Barcelona will go into this match with that kind of mentality because it's a step down for them. It's not like they are relegated. They would surely try to win this match and in my opinion, Barcelona actually has the better odds to win this match. But even if they lose I think it's ok because they have been through a lot worse than that and they are still alive Cheesy

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 02, 2022, 09:41:09 AM

In my opinion, the strength of both teams is equal now. Napoli have only maintained their consistency. But the Barcelona team has improved themself. They are improving day by day though. But at this moment we can not call the Barcelona team weak. The team is strong enough and Barcelona has the ability to beat Napoli. However, Barcelona will have to stabilize the midfield.

Even if we assume that the teams have equal strength, then based on bookmaker quotes, it is more profitable to bet on Napoli, since this team is underestimated.

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By the way, on February 6, in the match with Atlético, it will be possible to assess the strength of Barcelona - a serious opponent. It cannot be said that Atletico and Napoli play the same football, although there are similarities, so before the Europa League match this match will be useful to assess the prospects of Barcelona in the match with Napoli.

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Quote from: hahay on February 02, 2022, 09:21:24 AM

Basically Napoli are still playing well in Serie A and I feel, Napoli have the strength to be able to win this match. Unlike Barcelona, which is still making improvements and uniting players will certainly not be easy, while at the same time Napoli only need to maintain their well-formed performance at the start of the season. With this comparison, I personally feel for now that both of them do have a chance to win and this is still not easy to predict.

In my opinion, the strength of both teams is equal now. Napoli have only maintained their consistency. But the Barcelona team has improved themself. They are improving day by day though. But at this moment we can not call the Barcelona team weak. The team is strong enough and Barcelona has the ability to beat Napoli. However, Barcelona will have to stabilize the midfield.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 02, 2022, 06:47:05 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 02, 2022, 05:02:03 AM

We are two weeks before the 1/16-finals games. And the most interesting draw is obviously the Barcelona - Napoli one. This is like a Champions League draw actually as both of them are big teams in the end. But their inadequate performances have brought them to this tournament. And lately, Barcelona have started getting close to Napoli's level in performance I think. It looks like Barcelona have solved their striker problem with Aubameyang also which means they can be more capable of scoring many goals in a game from now on. I'm looking forward to watching a huge rivalry here. And I think that Barcelona might be the side to qualify for the next stage.

Yes, I absolutely agree and from my point of view, I also think Barcelona solved quite a lot of their problems. Now they just have to keep performing well and maybe save some money to buy better players in the near future because steel the Barcelona squad doesn't look anything like it did even in the recent past.

A lot of credit good goes to Xavi. And about Napoli, I think that they were doing really well at the start of the season but now they have become a little inconsistent which Barcelona should take advantage of.

Basically Napoli are still playing well in Serie A and I feel, Napoli have the strength to be able to win this match. Unlike Barcelona, which is still making improvements and uniting players will certainly not be easy, while at the same time Napoli only need to maintain their well-formed performance at the start of the season. With this comparison, I personally feel for now that both of them do have a chance to win and this is still not easy to predict.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 02, 2022, 05:02:03 AM

We are two weeks before the 1/16-finals games. And the most interesting draw is obviously the Barcelona - Napoli one. This is like a Champions League draw actually as both of them are big teams in the end. But their inadequate performances have brought them to this tournament. And lately, Barcelona have started getting close to Napoli's level in performance I think. It looks like Barcelona have solved their striker problem with Aubameyang also which means they can be more capable of scoring many goals in a game from now on. I'm looking forward to watching a huge rivalry here. And I think that Barcelona might be the side to qualify for the next stage.

Aubameyang is a good player who has been linked with Real Madrid before and now Barcelona have him, but I don't think he is young anymore. I think he can still contribute to Barcelona this season when not many other players can match his attacking qualities. He will earn a place at Barcelona and maybe he will help the team more this season.

Although I think Aubameyang also needs time to adapt but I hope he will help the team a lot to win the games they are still playing this season. This signing shows that Barcelona still wants to compete to get back to their best until the end of the season.

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Quote from: W Jr. on February 01, 2022, 07:24:35 PM

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I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.

I'm afraid, Barcelona aren't favorites in my opinion to win this tie, they haven't really improved that much under Xavi as many seem to suggest, they are still struggling and have not looked convincing in as many matches, and again, the Europa league isn't really their calibre of tournament, so I can say they are even in unfamiliar territory, they are used to playing in the UCL and winning it on numerous occasions, the Europa league is more like a step down for Barcelona, so I expect that to affect their mentality and by extension, their performance. I strongly believe Napoli will win this tie.

Maybe you are right. For a Barça accustomed to UCL, UEL is considered a lower tier. However, this year Barça is so bad that it has nothing to do with previous years. Their opponent is also very strong in matchmaking in UEL. Napoli is taking a storm in Italy. The championship chances are still going on. Barça, on the other hand, is trying to achieve a ranking that can go to the European cup. When we think about it this way, my favorite in this pairing is Napoli.

I actually don't agree with this because if we look at both leagues currently we can see that right now Barcelona is playing far better than before and Napoli I was playing better but now they seem to be a little inconsistent which might hurt them in this match.

In my opinion, I still think that Barcelona is going to win this match. And also with the recent transfer they did, I don't think that they will have too many problems scoring against Napoli.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 02, 2022, 05:02:03 AM

We are two weeks before the 1/16-finals games. And the most interesting draw is obviously the Barcelona - Napoli one. This is like a Champions League draw actually as both of them are big teams in the end. But their inadequate performances have brought them to this tournament. And lately, Barcelona have started getting close to Napoli's level in performance I think. It looks like Barcelona have solved their striker problem with Aubameyang also which means they can be more capable of scoring many goals in a game from now on. I'm looking forward to watching a huge rivalry here. And I think that Barcelona might be the side to qualify for the next stage.

Yes, I absolutely agree and from my point of view, I also think Barcelona solved quite a lot of their problems. Now they just have to keep performing well and maybe save some money to buy better players in the near future because steel the Barcelona squad doesn't look anything like it did even in the recent past.

A lot of credit good goes to Xavi. And about Napoli, I think that they were doing really well at the start of the season but now they have become a little inconsistent which Barcelona should take advantage of.

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We are two weeks before the 1/16-finals games. And the most interesting draw is obviously the Barcelona - Napoli one. This is like a Champions League draw actually as both of them are big teams in the end. But their inadequate performances have brought them to this tournament. And lately, Barcelona have started getting close to Napoli's level in performance I think. It looks like Barcelona have solved their striker problem with Aubameyang also which means they can be more capable of scoring many goals in a game from now on. I'm looking forward to watching a huge rivalry here. And I think that Barcelona might be the side to qualify for the next stage.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 01, 2022, 06:59:53 PM

I read the words: fight until die, and I think about dying on this club right now. Cheesy

in fact they are dying in a sad way and that's because they entered the wave of ruining the team and didn't do it in a more cautious way, they sold all good players and brought in young players who can't compete on equal terms with other players that they from barcelona considered old

Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 01, 2022, 06:59:53 PM

Exactly, the fact that Barcelona has been eliminated in the group phase of the UEFA Champion League may make them stressed enough.

they will also be eliminated in europa league

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Quote from: W Jr. on February 01, 2022, 07:24:35 PM

Quote from: Coyster on January 29, 2022, 02:01:53 PM

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I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.

I'm afraid, Barcelona aren't favorites in my opinion to win this tie, they haven't really improved that much under Xavi as many seem to suggest, they are still struggling and have not looked convincing in as many matches, and again, the Europa league isn't really their calibre of tournament, so I can say they are even in unfamiliar territory, they are used to playing in the UCL and winning it on numerous occasions, the Europa league is more like a step down for Barcelona, so I expect that to affect their mentality and by extension, their performance. I strongly believe Napoli will win this tie.

Maybe you are right. For a Barça accustomed to UCL, UEL is considered a lower tier. However, this year Barça is so bad that it has nothing to do with previous years. Their opponent is also very strong in matchmaking in UEL. Napoli is taking a storm in Italy. The championship chances are still going on. Barça, on the other hand, is trying to achieve a ranking that can go to the European cup. When we think about it this way, my favorite in this pairing is Napoli.

I had said a while ago if Barcelona get some transfers then they may change the equation, and they have got two talented player’s in, and if they settle quickly then suddenly Barcelona will be the favourites. Also Napoli is very strong and definitely favourites, but the impact that Barcelona new player’s can have cannot be ignored hence Napoli will have to play with lot of caution.

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Quote from: Coyster on January 29, 2022, 02:01:53 PM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 29, 2022, 08:42:50 AM

I will really back Barcelona up for winning against Napoli because I think Barcelona is quite stable right now in terms of performance and after the arrival of Xavi, they have done quite well.

I'm afraid, Barcelona aren't favorites in my opinion to win this tie, they haven't really improved that much under Xavi as many seem to suggest, they are still struggling and have not looked convincing in as many matches, and again, the Europa league isn't really their calibre of tournament, so I can say they are even in unfamiliar territory, they are used to playing in the UCL and winning it on numerous occasions, the Europa league is more like a step down for Barcelona, so I expect that to affect their mentality and by extension, their performance. I strongly believe Napoli will win this tie.

Maybe you are right. For a Barça accustomed to UCL, UEL is considered a lower tier. However, this year Barça is so bad that it has nothing to do with previous years. Their opponent is also very strong in matchmaking in UEL. Napoli is taking a storm in Italy. The championship chances are still going on. Barça, on the other hand, is trying to achieve a ranking that can go to the European cup. When we think about it this way, my favorite in this pairing is Napoli.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on January 31, 2022, 07:48:01 AM

Barcelona have to fight until die on UEFA Europa League after elimination from UEFA Champion League and now this competition as the only one chance how to make Barcelona have slot for champion league at the next season.

I read the words: fight until die, and I think about dying on this club right now. Cheesy

Exactly, the fact that Barcelona has been eliminated in the group phase of the UEFA Champion League may make them stressed enough. Moreover they were a big team. But now, it seems they need multiple powers again to fight in the UEFA Europa League.
Will it be easy? Of course not. We can see from the previous matches done by this club during the group phases, it was very hard for Barcelona.
Except that the club can exactly re-manage their team, strategy, and also powersagain to be better and better, with new or updated tactics.

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Quote from: hahay on February 01, 2022, 05:15:54 AM

The fact is that Barcelona still has a chance in the La Liga standings to get a ticket to the UCL next season and with that, it doesn't matter if Barcelona don't win here too. But I personally really believe that Barcelona will go further in this UEL, but if Barcelona can't do their best here then that's also not a problem. Because after all, Barcelona is still in the process of improving which of course takes time to become their squad more solid.

If we believe the news that says that Barcelona has increased its debt by 30% (four hundred million euros) over the past year, then its prospects become incomprehensible to me. By the way, I don't know the intricacies of the rules of financial fair play, but it seems that Barcelona does not follow its spirit - it spends much more than it earns and this cannot end well.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 01, 2022, 09:45:58 AM

Quote from: hahay on February 01, 2022, 05:15:54 AM

The fact is that Barcelona still has a chance in the La Liga standings to get a ticket to the UCL next season and with that, it doesn't matter if Barcelona don't win here too. But I personally really believe that Barcelona will go further in this UEL, but if Barcelona can't do their best here then that's also not a problem. Because after all, Barcelona is still in the process of improving which of course takes time to become their squad more solid.

I'm not saying that Barcelona won't try to do their best in the Europa League. The point is that they will be more focused on La Liga than on this competition.

If we look at the winners of the Europa League in recent years, and the teams that passed through the competition, we notice that clubs traditionally go far in the Champions League, when they reach the Europa League they end up not going very far.

After their recent form now most chances they will do their best for having good spot in La Liga because now hopes are alive, and they have one crucial match against Atlético Madrid which can change their all season's disappointments into good and positive way if they defeat them then surely they are going to stay at fourth spot for some long time even they can go to third as well.

Just because of this all I have feeling most chances they will not go with their full strength into this match against Napoli but still these are personal views, and they can go with their own plans and have good chance to win this title as well even we have some more good and quality teams already announces their desire for win of this cup in this season.

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Quote from: hahay on February 01, 2022, 05:15:54 AM

The fact is that Barcelona still has a chance in the La Liga standings to get a ticket to the UCL next season and with that, it doesn't matter if Barcelona don't win here too. But I personally really believe that Barcelona will go further in this UEL, but if Barcelona can't do their best here then that's also not a problem. Because after all, Barcelona is still in the process of improving which of course takes time to become their squad more solid.

I'm not saying that Barcelona won't try to do their best in the Europa League. The point is that they will be more focused on La Liga than on this competition.

If we look at the winners of the Europa League in recent years, and the teams that passed through the competition, we notice that clubs traditionally go far in the Champions League, when they reach the Europa League they end up not going very far.

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Quote from: DanWalker on February 01, 2022, 05:08:18 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on January 31, 2022, 07:40:01 PM

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Barcelona have to fight until die on UEFA Europa League after elimination from UEFA Champion League and now this competition as the only one chance how to make Barcelona have slot for champion league at the next season. I think Napoli will not easy for Barcelona and have bad memorize when Barcelona against with Serie A team, maybe still remember how AS Roma comeback with 4 goal margin at second leg and make Barcelona have elimination from semi final champion league? this will be the same when Barcelona against with Napoli on 16 round of Europe League.

I don't see Barcelona giving everything to try to win the Europa League. This is not a test for them. Barcelona want something more, being in this competition is like being in the second division. For a team like Barcelona, winning the Europa League does not hide the bad performance they had this season in the Champions League. Usually teams like Barcelona, when they end up in the Europa League, don't usually win the competition, because of that.

Of course they will try to win the race, but their focus is to try to improve their position in the Spanish championship as much as possible. So, despite being a great team and playing well, Napolis will have a good chance of overtaking Barcelona.

Barcelona will surely try to improve their position in the Spanish League but in my opinion, they will also try to show a good performance in the Europa League. And this is also true that for a team like Barcelona, doing good in the Europa League doesn't mean anything but it would be nice if they can prove themselves. But right now their main goal should be to improve their position in the Spanish League.

The fact is that Barcelona still has a chance in the La Liga standings to get a ticket to the UCL next season and with that, it doesn't matter if Barcelona don't win here too. But I personally really believe that Barcelona will go further in this UEL, but if Barcelona can't do their best here then that's also not a problem. Because after all, Barcelona is still in the process of improving which of course takes time to become their squad more solid.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 31, 2022, 07:40:01 PM

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Barcelona have to fight until die on UEFA Europa League after elimination from UEFA Champion League and now this competition as the only one chance how to make Barcelona have slot for champion league at the next season. I think Napoli will not easy for Barcelona and have bad memorize when Barcelona against with Serie A team, maybe still remember how AS Roma comeback with 4 goal margin at second leg and make Barcelona have elimination from semi final champion league? this will be the same when Barcelona against with Napoli on 16 round of Europe League.

I don't see Barcelona giving everything to try to win the Europa League. This is not a test for them. Barcelona want something more, being in this competition is like being in the second division. For a team like Barcelona, winning the Europa League does not hide the bad performance they had this season in the Champions League. Usually teams like Barcelona, when they end up in the Europa League, don't usually win the competition, because of that.

Of course they will try to win the race, but their focus is to try to improve their position in the Spanish championship as much as possible. So, despite being a great team and playing well, Napolis will have a good chance of overtaking Barcelona.

Barcelona will surely try to improve their position in the Spanish League but in my opinion, they will also try to show a good performance in the Europa League. And this is also true that for a team like Barcelona, doing good in the Europa League doesn't mean anything but it would be nice if they can prove themselves. But right now their main goal should be to improve their position in the Spanish League.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on January 31, 2022, 07:48:01 AM

Barcelona have to fight until die on UEFA Europa League after elimination from UEFA Champion League and now this competition as the only one chance how to make Barcelona have slot for champion league at the next season. I think Napoli will not easy for Barcelona and have bad memorize when Barcelona against with Serie A team, maybe still remember how AS Roma comeback with 4 goal margin at second leg and make Barcelona have elimination from semi final champion league? this will be the same when Barcelona against with Napoli on 16 round of Europe League.

I don't see Barcelona giving everything to try to win the Europa League. This is not a test for them. Barcelona want something more, being in this competition is like being in the second division. For a team like Barcelona, winning the Europa League does not hide the bad performance they had this season in the Champions League. Usually teams like Barcelona, when they end up in the Europa League, don't usually win the competition, because of that.

Of course they will try to win the race, but their focus is to try to improve their position in the Spanish championship as much as possible. So, despite being a great team and playing well, Napolis will have a good chance of overtaking Barcelona.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 31, 2022, 09:49:18 AM

Quote from: Tony116 on January 31, 2022, 07:33:04 AM

But Barcelona should be careful not to be over-aggressive as they can be caught in counter-attack and we know that Barcelona's defensive line is not that great.

You are right Napoli striker is good. They will try to score from the counterattack. However, since Barcelona will now play tiki-taka tactics, they will not be too aggressive. They will not give Napoli players a chance to score from the counter-attack. However, since the Barcelona team is not yet experienced, it is important to be careful if you want to win.

when saying tiki taka actually for now I feel their tactics are not as scary as before because their tiki taka is much different now. And speaking of counter-attacks, of course, there is still a very big chance because Napoli's counter-attack is still very scary, I think.
but on the other hand, barcelona's ambitions are still strong enough for UEL because indeed they are still not financially free and with UEL at least they can still cover the losses due to being eliminated at UCL

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Quote from: Tony116 on January 31, 2022, 07:33:04 AM

But Barcelona should be careful not to be over-aggressive as they can be caught in counter-attack and we know that Barcelona's defensive line is not that great.

You are right Napoli striker is good. They will try to score from the counterattack. However, since Barcelona will now play tiki-taka tactics, they will not be too aggressive. They will not give Napoli players a chance to score from the counter-attack. However, since the Barcelona team is not yet experienced, it is important to be careful if you want to win.

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