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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 08, 2021, 02:41:45 PM

Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

I don't agree with you guys about the FC Sheriff Tiraspol winning against Real Madrid to be luck because everything done through some effort that produces a good result is not a piece of luck but determination. Besides, in the match stats show that they make 70% accurate passes, 4 shots, and 3 on target which means they use well every chance they had.
Meanwhile, this is a result of their preparation for the Champion League after defeat in their first Champion league appearance in the year 2010–11.

Real is undoubtedly a better and more experienced team than Sheriff but they played a bad game and completely deservedly lost.
It is obvious that Real is still not playing at the top level and has certain problems in the game which does not diminish the size of the Sheriff's victory.
Sheriff has been playing in European competitions for a long time, as far as I remember they also played in European League groups and their success is not accidental but is the result of long and hard work and investment.
This is a signpost for other, small clubs, how to achieve a good result in European competitions.

^^ I won't say that Sheriff's win against Real is totally luck. Yes a bit of luck was there, but they really did play well if you watch the match. They got so much less opportunity to score compared to Real Madrid but they converted each chance they got. Having a 100% conversion rate against Real is always something huge. Also, Real Madrid is having some defensive problems since Ramos and Varane left. But we cannot deny that Sheriff had a great match and they deserved the win.

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Quote from: coderben on October 07, 2021, 07:01:35 PM

The Europa League can be one of the really interesting tournaments among the international ones. Because every game is open for any kind of surprise all the time. For example, who would have said that Legia would get a win against Leicester? But they did this. So this tournament is like an opportunity for smaller clubs to achieve the best they can. This is fun and boring at the same time. Because I don't see the same competition level as the one in the Champions League.

Usually the teams that play in the European leagues have a balanced strength, so this provides equal opportunities for all teams to be able to win the championship trophy, besides that in my opinion the European League is no less prestigious than the Champions League, although so far the European League competition is often considered the European continent second caste cup.
In addition, for the team that wins the European Cup, of course, they will have the opportunity to win the inter-club world cup later and what is certain is that the European League champion will certainly be an automatically get tickets to play in the Champions League next season.

If you pay attention to UCL too, you will get a more terrible surprise there. Who thought Sheriff Tiraspol would win against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu? I'm sure everyone will choose Madrid to bet whether it's ML, HT/FT, AH bets and many more. Well, I personally still think these two teams might be lucky enough to take advantage of the situation well, because next Legia will play away against Napoli and as we know, Napoli this season are looking very good in Serie A but not so good in this tournament. But with the previous results, of course these two teams will take advantage of each other's weaknesses in every line but I personally believe, both Legia in EL and Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL will end here and in the second leg later, if they can still be consistent then of course that no longer luck.

Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

I don't agree with you guys about the FC Sheriff Tiraspol winning against Real Madrid to be luck because everything done through some effort that produces a good result is not a piece of luck but determination. Besides, in the match stats show that they make 70% accurate passes, 4 shots, and 3 on target which means they use well every chance they had.
Meanwhile, this is a result of their preparation for the Champion League after defeat in their first Champion league appearance in the year 2010–11.

Real is undoubtedly a better and more experienced team than Sheriff but they played a bad game and completely deservedly lost.
It is obvious that Real is still not playing at the top level and has certain problems in the game which does not diminish the size of the Sheriff's victory.
Sheriff has been playing in European competitions for a long time, as far as I remember they also played in European League groups and their success is not accidental but is the result of long and hard work and investment.
This is a signpost for other, small clubs, how to achieve a good result in European competitions.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on October 08, 2021, 04:40:16 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 08, 2021, 02:41:45 PM

I don't agree with you guys about the FC Sheriff Tiraspol winning against Real Madrid to be luck because everything done through some effort that produces a good result is not a piece of luck but determination. Besides, in the match stats show that they make 70% accurate passes, 4 shots, and 3 on target which means they use well every chance they had.
Meanwhile, this is a result of their preparation for the Champion League after defeat in their first Champion league appearance in the year 2010–11.

Here I agree with you just giving all to luck is never been good idea because just with luck you can't win matches against teams like Real Madrid you need some good effort as well. In first match against Shakhtar they were okay as they have 100% record at home so mostly feel it's just good game, and they won but in second game they have conversation rate 100% which help them to win as Read Madrid have 18 shots on goal and just one goal and Sheriff Tiraspol done just 2 shots both works for them here we have no science who can explain about this all just some effort and luck both works.

Yes, you are right. But they also played well with the addition of a little bit of luck I'd say. As they got so much less chance than Real Madrid as they had much less possession but they were able to convert those small amounts of chances which created the difference in the game. As you said that Real took 18 shots and if I'm not wrong they also had about 40 crosses but were not able to convert any. Their only goal came from a penalty. So I'd have to appreciate how well Sheriff played.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 08, 2021, 02:41:45 PM

I don't agree with you guys about the FC Sheriff Tiraspol winning against Real Madrid to be luck because everything done through some effort that produces a good result is not a piece of luck but determination. Besides, in the match stats show that they make 70% accurate passes, 4 shots, and 3 on target which means they use well every chance they had.
Meanwhile, this is a result of their preparation for the Champion League after defeat in their first Champion league appearance in the year 2010–11.

Here I agree with you just giving all to luck is never been good idea because just with luck you can't win matches against teams like Real Madrid you need some good effort as well. In first match against Shakhtar they were okay as they have 100% record at home so mostly feel it's just good game, and they won but in second game they have conversation rate 100% which help them to win as Read Madrid have 18 shots on goal and just one goal and Sheriff Tiraspol done just 2 shots both works for them here we have no science who can explain about this all just some effort and luck both works.

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Quote from: coderben on October 07, 2021, 07:01:35 PM

The Europa League can be one of the really interesting tournaments among the international ones. Because every game is open for any kind of surprise all the time. For example, who would have said that Legia would get a win against Leicester? But they did this. So this tournament is like an opportunity for smaller clubs to achieve the best they can. This is fun and boring at the same time. Because I don't see the same competition level as the one in the Champions League.

Usually the teams that play in the European leagues have a balanced strength, so this provides equal opportunities for all teams to be able to win the championship trophy, besides that in my opinion the European League is no less prestigious than the Champions League, although so far the European League competition is often considered the European continent second caste cup.
In addition, for the team that wins the European Cup, of course, they will have the opportunity to win the inter-club world cup later and what is certain is that the European League champion will certainly be an automatically get tickets to play in the Champions League next season.

If you pay attention to UCL too, you will get a more terrible surprise there. Who thought Sheriff Tiraspol would win against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu? I'm sure everyone will choose Madrid to bet whether it's ML, HT/FT, AH bets and many more. Well, I personally still think these two teams might be lucky enough to take advantage of the situation well, because next Legia will play away against Napoli and as we know, Napoli this season are looking very good in Serie A but not so good in this tournament. But with the previous results, of course these two teams will take advantage of each other's weaknesses in every line but I personally believe, both Legia in EL and Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL will end here and in the second leg later, if they can still be consistent then of course that no longer luck.

Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

I don't agree with you guys about the FC Sheriff Tiraspol winning against Real Madrid to be luck because everything done through some effort that produces a good result is not a piece of luck but determination. Besides, in the match stats show that they make 70% accurate passes, 4 shots, and 3 on target which means they use well every chance they had.
Meanwhile, this is a result of their preparation for the Champion League after defeat in their first Champion league appearance in the year 2010–11.

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PSV - Monaco could be one of the interesting games on the next match week. These teams both got 1 win and 1 draw so far. PSV were already doing good in their league but Monaco newly started to get satisfying results in the Ligue 1. They have a 3-win streak which should help them perform much better in the coming games. This game is included in those games too. Maybe it will be a tough away game but Monaco can still fight really hard against PSV and get at least a point. It is very likely to see both teams scoring also.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 08, 2021, 01:08:16 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on October 08, 2021, 01:08:16 PM

Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

The point is that they are very well positioned to make it to the next stage. If they win or draw against Inter, they would have to lose the next 3 games to not pass. Based on their current standings, they only have to draw three out of the four games they have to play to be able to move forward. It would take them to start playing very poorly, to suddenly lose all the advantage they have. So I think we'll be surprised to see them in the next phase of the Champions League.

Even though the sheriff is surprising the world with its soccer this year, as maybe once Ajax (exaggerating, yes, but why not for the analogy), but I still think that they can not keep 3 draws in the next rounds at least, much less win. You know what this reminds me of? When you get psyched and you think you're unstoppable.

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Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

The point is that they are very well positioned to make it to the next stage. If they win or draw against Inter, they would have to lose the next 3 games to not pass. Based on their current standings, they only have to draw three out of the four games they have to play to be able to move forward. It would take them to start playing very poorly, to suddenly lose all the advantage they have. So I think we'll be surprised to see them in the next phase of the Champions League.

the sheriff is in good confidence right now, when talking about the start of the group I thought this team was just a complement, but they proved that they don't want to be labeled as extras in the group and it's proven, now they are top of the table above the big teams inter milan and madrid.
the possibility may still be open for them when they host Inter Milan later, if indeed they show their superiority like when they met Madrid it is not impossible for them to advance to the next round.
but on the other hand of course the two teams below will not stay silent, especially inter and madrid are subscriptions to qualify for the round of 16.

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Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

The point is that they are very well positioned to make it to the next stage. If they win or draw against Inter, they would have to lose the next 3 games to not pass. Based on their current standings, they only have to draw three out of the four games they have to play to be able to move forward. It would take them to start playing very poorly, to suddenly lose all the advantage they have. So I think we'll be surprised to see them in the next phase of the Champions League.

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Quote from: coderben on October 07, 2021, 07:01:35 PM

The Europa League can be one of the really interesting tournaments among the international ones. Because every game is open for any kind of surprise all the time. For example, who would have said that Legia would get a win against Leicester? But they did this. So this tournament is like an opportunity for smaller clubs to achieve the best they can. This is fun and boring at the same time. Because I don't see the same competition level as the one in the Champions League.

Usually the teams that play in the European leagues have a balanced strength, so this provides equal opportunities for all teams to be able to win the championship trophy, besides that in my opinion the European League is no less prestigious than the Champions League, although so far the European League competition is often considered the European continent second caste cup.
In addition, for the team that wins the European Cup, of course, they will have the opportunity to win the inter-club world cup later and what is certain is that the European League champion will certainly be an automatically get tickets to play in the Champions League next season.

If you pay attention to UCL too, you will get a more terrible surprise there. Who thought Sheriff Tiraspol would win against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu? I'm sure everyone will choose Madrid to bet whether it's ML, HT/FT, AH bets and many more. Well, I personally still think these two teams might be lucky enough to take advantage of the situation well, because next Legia will play away against Napoli and as we know, Napoli this season are looking very good in Serie A but not so good in this tournament. But with the previous results, of course these two teams will take advantage of each other's weaknesses in every line but I personally believe, both Legia in EL and Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL will end here and in the second leg later, if they can still be consistent then of course that no longer luck.

Yes, I also think that the sheriff victory in the champions league is just luck and I personally am not sure if they will be able to qualify for the next phase, but it looks like the european league will be an alternative for the sheriff to show the quality of their game later, while Napoli, with a schedule which is dense as it is now, I think their main focus is just to win the scudetto and of course with the current Napoli squad they have to be able to choose between the european league or the scudetto.

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Quote from: coderben on October 07, 2021, 07:01:35 PM

The Europa League can be one of the really interesting tournaments among the international ones. Because every game is open for any kind of surprise all the time. For example, who would have said that Legia would get a win against Leicester? But they did this. So this tournament is like an opportunity for smaller clubs to achieve the best they can. This is fun and boring at the same time. Because I don't see the same competition level as the one in the Champions League.

Usually the teams that play in the European leagues have a balanced strength, so this provides equal opportunities for all teams to be able to win the championship trophy, besides that in my opinion the European League is no less prestigious than the Champions League, although so far the European League competition is often considered the European continent second caste cup.
In addition, for the team that wins the European Cup, of course, they will have the opportunity to win the inter-club world cup later and what is certain is that the European League champion will certainly be an automatically get tickets to play in the Champions League next season.

If you pay attention to UCL too, you will get a more terrible surprise there. Who thought Sheriff Tiraspol would win against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu? I'm sure everyone will choose Madrid to bet whether it's ML, HT/FT, AH bets and many more. Well, I personally still think these two teams might be lucky enough to take advantage of the situation well, because next Legia will play away against Napoli and as we know, Napoli this season are looking very good in Serie A but not so good in this tournament. But with the previous results, of course these two teams will take advantage of each other's weaknesses in every line but I personally believe, both Legia in EL and Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL will end here and in the second leg later, if they can still be consistent then of course that no longer luck.

You know, this whole season has been full of surprises. And Europa League almost always has been the tournament of somewhat equal and balanced teams who have the same strength and ability to win the game, But I did not expect Leicester to lose that game. Although congrats to Legia for winning. And I agree with you that any team in the EUL can win the trophy, it's a good place for comparatively smaller teams to show the world that even they are capable.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 08, 2021, 04:59:52 AM

In the round 3, one of the interesting games seems like Lazio - Marseille.

Normally, these teams both are really good in their own leagues this season. But we can't see the same performance here in the Europa League from them. Lazio defeated Lokomotiv Moscow but were beaten by Galatasaray. Marseille got two draws against Galatasaray and Lokomotiv Moscow. As a result, these teams are at the 2nd and 3rd place in their group. The game between them could be very competitive. And it is an important advantage that Lazio are playing home. Marseille can have a very hard time getting even one point at the end. My favourite side is Lazio in this game.

This might be one of the matches that will set the tempo of Group E.
Lazio and Galatasaray both won a match each and Lazio drew the last 2 of their matches. So, this match will be very important for both teams. It seems like Galatasaray will qualify and maybe (my prediction) one of these 2 teams will qualify with them. Lazio is currently 6th in their league and I hope they will have an edgpe against Marseille.

Galatasaray's matches against Lokomotiv Moscow will be very crucial for determining even the first place. Galatasaray will try to fight for winning both of their matches against them as Lokomotiv Moscow are a weaker opponent for Galatasaray compared to Lazio and Marseille. If Galatasaray win both of these matches and Lazio - Marseille match ends in a draw, then Galatasaray will be the leader of the group at the end I think.

I personally believe that Lazio has the advantage, because of Sarri’s experience and I believe that will be the key in Lazio winning this match. Also I’m expecting them to score at least two goals, but do you’ll feel that they can score more than two goals too or only score one goal and win it?.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 08, 2021, 08:30:50 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on October 08, 2021, 04:59:52 AM

In the round 3, one of the interesting games seems like Lazio - Marseille.

Normally, these teams both are really good in their own leagues this season. But we can't see the same performance here in the Europa League from them. Lazio defeated Lokomotiv Moscow but were beaten by Galatasaray. Marseille got two draws against Galatasaray and Lokomotiv Moscow. As a result, these teams are at the 2nd and 3rd place in their group. The game between them could be very competitive. And it is an important advantage that Lazio are playing home. Marseille can have a very hard time getting even one point at the end. My favourite side is Lazio in this game.

This might be one of the matches that will set the tempo of Group E.
Lazio and Galatasaray both won a match each and Lazio drew the last 2 of their matches. So, this match will be very important for both teams. It seems like Galatasaray will qualify and maybe (my prediction) one of these 2 teams will qualify with them. Lazio is currently 6th in their league and I hope they will have an edge against Marseille.

Galatasaray's matches against Lokomotiv Moscow will be very crucial for determining even the first place. Galatasaray will try to fight for winning both of their matches against them as Lokomotiv Moscow are a weaker opponent for Galatasaray compared to Lazio and Marseille. If Galatasaray win both of these matches and Lazio - Marseille match ends in a draw, then Galatasaray will be the leader of the group at the end I think.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 08, 2021, 04:59:52 AM

In the round 3, one of the interesting games seems like Lazio - Marseille.

Normally, these teams both are really good in their own leagues this season. But we can't see the same performance here in the Europa League from them. Lazio defeated Lokomotiv Moscow but were beaten by Galatasaray. Marseille got two draws against Galatasaray and Lokomotiv Moscow. As a result, these teams are at the 2nd and 3rd place in their group. The game between them could be very competitive. And it is an important advantage that Lazio are playing home. Marseille can have a very hard time getting even one point at the end. My favourite side is Lazio in this game.

This might be one of the matches that will set the tempo of Group E.
Lazio and Galatasaray both won a match each and Lazio drew the last 2 of their matches. So, this match will be very important for both teams. It seems like Galatasaray will qualify and maybe (my prediction) one of these 2 teams will qualify with them. Lazio is currently 6th in their league and I hope they will have an edge against Marseille.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 07, 2021, 07:32:25 AM

Why the hell are you discussing Barcelona in the Europa League thread? Grin

Is Barcelona playing in the Europa League?They might get into the Europa League eliminations by finishing on 3th place in their group of the UEFA Champions League tournament,but that's still just a possibility.
I'm expecting some Spanish or Portuguese team to reach the finals of this years Europa League.
Maybe S.C. Braga will do it.They have do it before AFAIK.Clubs that might end up on 3th place in the Champions league groups like Sporting Lisbon,Porto and Benfica are even stronger than Braga.

Maybe we are discussing them in advance Grin

Seriously, the spirit of Europa is calling Barcelona.
One thing about discussing and predicting Europa is that, it sometimes appears boring. The League is like that of "birds of a feather ". Equal strength and strategy. Don't believe any team is exceptional. If clubs like Barcelona is eliminated from UCL, then I can be confident to predict the matches. For now I only predict on goals and not wins.

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