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Quote from: Emitdama on October 02, 2021, 04:05:27 PM

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Yes, they won two matches in the group both with the minimum score, but so far I don't see anything special about that. Probably the next match Napoli - Legia will show how strong Legia is. Napoli has only one point and will be obliged to play to win in front of their spectators in a home match. I'm not sure that in such conditions Legia will be able to repeat the success of Spartacus.

I am feeling Legia is doing good in this group in next match they are going against Napoli which is good team but in last two matches they have done 4 goals and have 5 goals against them in Legia case they score only 2 goals and have now against them.

It means that they have something good, and they can contain Napoli because their recent match was not good after having lead they lost by 2 - 3, In my view they are not taking seriously this Europa League and want to have better record in local league so just because of this they are not doing tough like they are doing in their local league.

Yes, this is a big chance for Legia if Napoli, with its Serie A lead in mind, prioritizes Europa League games much lower than Serie A games. In the end, the victory in the Europa League is very illusory, and leading the championship and not being distracted by anything, they can almost guaranteed to get into the Champions League next year, where there is many times more money, and if they are lucky, then become the champion of Italy.

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Quote from: boltz on October 02, 2021, 05:36:37 PM

Could this be the year when Barcelona will reach Europe league finals ? Or this is just to big for this current squad of Barca ? I'm saying this because the UCL seems kinda over for them with 2 defeats in a row and having 0-6 scoring points...I doubt they can qualify from 1st or 2nd position so now they must battle with Kiev to save the UCL season and qualify for Europe League but even here he find great teams who can take out Barca right now and one of them might be just Betis from LaLiga Cool

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I think it is too early to make such predictions.
Only 2 rounds per group have been played and a lot more can happen.
The fact is that Barcelona has not been competitive in the Champions League for a very long time and they have already had several disastrous defeats previous years, in matches against Roma and Liverpool for example, and they have not been close to winning the Champions League for a long time.
There are obvious problems in running the club, in finances, in the relationship between the players and the management etc.
Even if they manage to get through the group, Barcelona is certainly not the favorite to win the Champions League this season, and they would not even be the favorites to win the European League.
That is a sad reality for all Barcelona fans today.

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Quote from: boltz on October 02, 2021, 05:36:37 PM

Could this be the year when Barcelona will reach Europe league finals ? Or this is just to big for this current squad of Barca ? I'm saying this because the UCL seems kinda over for them with 2 defeats in a row and having 0-6 scoring points...I doubt they can qualify from 1st or 2nd position so now they must battle with Kiev to save the UCL season and qualify for Europe League but even here he find great teams who can take out Barca right now and one of them might be just Betis from LaLiga Cool

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I would not risk looking so far, and even on the basis of just two matches. Theoretically, no one has secured anything yet, and in the second round of the group tournament, the situation may turn upside down, especially considering that the leaders of the group Bayern and Benfica are playing each other and one of them will definitely lose points. And so, according to my current level of play and composition, I am not sure that Barcelona is suitable for the status of the undisputed leader even of the Europa League, because there are a lot of decent teams there and then the teams that took third places in the Champions League will be added.

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One of the surprising teams so far have been Rangers. Because they are not a weak team in this tournament. But they started very badly to the first matches. They lost to Lyon home and to Sparta Prague away. I understand the Lyon loss as there is a huge power difference between them. But they are a far better team than Sparta Prague I think. Scotland teams are really the worst so far as Celtic have been terrible so far too.

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Could this be the year when Barcelona will reach Europe league finals ? Or this is just to big for this current squad of Barca ? I'm saying this because the UCL seems kinda over for them with 2 defeats in a row and having 0-6 scoring points...I doubt they can qualify from 1st or 2nd position so now they must battle with Kiev to save the UCL season and qualify for Europe League but even here he find great teams who can take out Barca right now and one of them might be just Betis from LaLiga Cool

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Quote from: Emitdama on October 02, 2021, 04:05:27 PM

I am feeling Legia is doing good in this group in next match they are going against Napoli which is good team but in last two matches they have done 4 goals and have 5 goals against them in Legia case they score only 2 goals and have now against them.

It means that they have something good, and they can contain Napoli because their recent match was not good after having lead they lost by 2 - 3, In my view they are not taking seriously this Europa League and want to have better record in local league so just because of this they are not doing tough like they are doing in their local league.

Yes, given the fact that they are focused on their league, I believe more in a draw or a win for Legia. They play very well, I personally underestimated them, now it seems to me that the outsiders of the group are Spartak and to my great regret Leicester. But hope dies last, as they say. I hope Napoli and Leicester make the playoffs.

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There are other teams who have won all their games so far and in fact, there are better than West Ham in this tournament. Well, apart from West Ham I think what we have to pay attention to is about Legia in group C, I believe Legia in this group is only underestimated but the fact is that Legia was able to beat the favorite team so far and it's the same as Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL. Shocked

Yes, they won two matches in the group both with the minimum score, but so far I don't see anything special about that. Probably the next match Napoli - Legia will show how strong Legia is. Napoli has only one point and will be obliged to play to win in front of their spectators in a home match. I'm not sure that in such conditions Legia will be able to repeat the success of Spartacus.

I am feeling Legia is doing good in this group in next match they are going against Napoli which is good team but in last two matches they have done 4 goals and have 5 goals against them in Legia case they score only 2 goals and have now against them.

It means that they have something good, and they can contain Napoli because their recent match was not good after having lead they lost by 2 - 3, In my view they are not taking seriously this Europa League and want to have better record in local league so just because of this they are not doing tough like they are doing in their local league.

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Quote from: slackovic on October 01, 2021, 04:17:44 AM

Quote from: hahay on October 01, 2021, 04:05:36 AM

I think it's obvious, West Ham and Dinamo Zagreb will dominate the group but this 3-0 win away was a surprise for me too. For the next match where Dinamo Zagreb will play against Rapid Vienna, I think this will be another easy win for Zagreb, because Genk who was able to win against Rapid Vienna proved that Rapid might be weaker and or less prepared in this competition so it is difficult for him to play well even playing at home.

It may seem obvious for people not that close to Dinamo. History has taught us that Dinamo players have a nasty habit to play good when no one expect that from them and to play lousy when everyone expects an easy win. That's why I'm not that confident in an easy win against Rapid. We will see...

In fact, it must be said that Dinamo was lucky in this match and that the match could have ended differently if Genk had scored the first goal, which was also admitted by Dinamo coach Krznar.
West Ham is the obvious favorite of this group but for second place there will still be a big fight until the end of the group stage of this competition.
I think the next two games will be very important, and if Dinamo wins at least 4 points against Rapid, and Genk loses both games against West Ham, or doesn't win more than one point, then Dinamo will be in a huge advantage and the favorite for second place in a group.

West Ham should be the easy choice for the group champion position. But the 2nd place is very tricky. Dynamo plays good, but oftentimes they slip where they are not supposed to slip. What I'm meaning is, Zagreb sometimes throws away easier chances. So the next few matches will be interesting to see for the clash for the 2nd place.

Agreed. Dinamo is well known for losing matches that they should win easily. Even the last match against Genk could have gone wrong if Genk had scored first. Who knows how Dinamo players would react. Situations like that are where a good coach should show his ability to boost team's morale. Personally I think that Dinamo would lose that game if Genk scored first.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 02, 2021, 09:27:16 AM

Quote from: slackovic on October 01, 2021, 04:17:44 AM

Quote from: hahay on October 01, 2021, 04:05:36 AM

I think it's obvious, West Ham and Dinamo Zagreb will dominate the group but this 3-0 win away was a surprise for me too. For the next match where Dinamo Zagreb will play against Rapid Vienna, I think this will be another easy win for Zagreb, because Genk who was able to win against Rapid Vienna proved that Rapid might be weaker and or less prepared in this competition so it is difficult for him to play well even playing at home.

It may seem obvious for people not that close to Dinamo. History has taught us that Dinamo players have a nasty habit to play good when no one expect that from them and to play lousy when everyone expects an easy win. That's why I'm not that confident in an easy win against Rapid. We will see...

In fact, it must be said that Dinamo was lucky in this match and that the match could have ended differently if Genk had scored the first goal, which was also admitted by Dinamo coach Krznar.
West Ham is the obvious favorite of this group but for second place there will still be a big fight until the end of the group stage of this competition.
I think the next two games will be very important, and if Dinamo wins at least 4 points against Rapid, and Genk loses both games against West Ham, or doesn't win more than one point, then Dinamo will be in a huge advantage and the favorite for second place in a group.

West Ham should be the easy choice for the group champion position. But the 2nd place is very tricky. Dynamo plays good, but oftentimes they slip where they are not supposed to slip. What I'm meaning is, Zagreb sometimes throws away easier chances. So the next few matches will be interesting to see for the clash for the 2nd place.

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Quote from: hahay on October 02, 2021, 06:29:31 AM

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Quote from: snipie on October 01, 2021, 05:33:57 PM

Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

West Ham did well in EPL last season but they aren't that successful right now at the opposite of EL where they are doing fine. After all as you said their group isn't that top..

Yes, this group looks really very easy to them. And in general, I think the teams will start real fighting (seriously thinking) about winning the Europa League starting from the quarterfinals. Firstly, the cup will already be close, and secondly, the situation in the domestic championship will more or less become clear and those who will not succeed there will concentrate on this chance.

There are other teams who have won all their games so far and in fact, there are better than West Ham in this tournament. Well, apart from West Ham I think what we have to pay attention to is about Legia in group C, I believe Legia in this group is only underestimated but the fact is that Legia was able to beat the favorite team so far and it's the same as Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL. Shocked

But I wouldn't underestimate West Ham at all in regards to making it far during this championship. Every now and then they are able to beat one of the big teams or deliver them a very tough fight. They'll probably qualify for next round here and then everything is possible for them, especially in front of their own audience.

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Quote from: slackovic on October 01, 2021, 04:17:44 AM

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Damn it, I should have put some money on Dinamo yesterday. I had a feeling they could surprise us with a win, but I didn't expect a game like that. They let Genk have the ball and waited for their chances. We really needed to win this game to boost the morale. The next game is vs. Rapid in Wien. After a game like last night Rapid shouldn't be much of a problem, but with Dinamo you never know.

I kept my money for the victory of Dinamo Zagreb. If we compare the Zagreb team with KRC Jenk, then the Zagreb team must be ahead. Dinamo Zagreb is a stable and strong team. And they were expected to win. However, I think they will be able to maintain their winning streak in the next match. The Rapid Vienna team is not stable.

I think it's obvious, West Ham and Dinamo Zagreb will dominate the group but this 3-0 win away was a surprise for me too. For the next match where Dinamo Zagreb will play against Rapid Vienna, I think this will be another easy win for Zagreb, because Genk who was able to win against Rapid Vienna proved that Rapid might be weaker and or less prepared in this competition so it is difficult for him to play well even playing at home.

It may seem obvious for people not that close to Dinamo. History has taught us that Dinamo players have a nasty habit to play good when no one expect that from them and to play lousy when everyone expects an easy win. That's why I'm not that confident in an easy win against Rapid. We will see...

In fact, it must be said that Dinamo was lucky in this match and that the match could have ended differently if Genk had scored the first goal, which was also admitted by Dinamo coach Krznar.
West Ham is the obvious favorite of this group but for second place there will still be a big fight until the end of the group stage of this competition.
I think the next two games will be very important, and if Dinamo wins at least 4 points against Rapid, and Genk loses both games against West Ham, or doesn't win more than one point, then Dinamo will be in a huge advantage and the favorite for second place in a group.

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Quote from: hahay on October 02, 2021, 06:29:31 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 02, 2021, 05:07:13 AM

Yes, this group looks really very easy to them. And in general, I think the teams will start real fighting (seriously thinking) about winning the Europa League starting from the quarterfinals. Firstly, the cup will already be close, and secondly, the situation in the domestic championship will more or less become clear and those who will not succeed there will concentrate on this chance.

There are other teams who have won all their games so far and in fact, there are better than West Ham in this tournament. Well, apart from West Ham I think what we have to pay attention to is about Legia in group C, I believe Legia in this group is only underestimated but the fact is that Legia was able to beat the favorite team so far and it's the same as Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL. Shocked

Yes, they won two matches in the group both with the minimum score, but so far I don't see anything special about that. Probably the next match Napoli - Legia will show how strong Legia is. Napoli has only one point and will be obliged to play to win in front of their spectators in a home match. I'm not sure that in such conditions Legia will be able to repeat the success of Spartacus.

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Quote from: snipie on October 01, 2021, 05:33:57 PM

Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

West Ham did well in EPL last season but they aren't that successful right now at the opposite of EL where they are doing fine. After all as you said their group isn't that top..

Either they are not good in Premier League they are not bad as well having 11 points from 6 games and just 3 points away from top is also good record for them. In last season they were staying in top 4 for some long time but chock badly at the end and qualify for Europa League where they are on their best and in Premier League they have only one defeat which happen against Manchester United in other matches they are producing good results, and they still have margin of improving as they have very competitive side which are performing in all conditions.

I am hoping for good result at the end of season again from them, and they can go through in some better position in Europa League as well.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 02, 2021, 05:07:13 AM

Quote from: snipie on October 01, 2021, 05:33:57 PM

Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

West Ham did well in EPL last season but they aren't that successful right now at the opposite of EL where they are doing fine. After all as you said their group isn't that top..

Yes, this group looks really very easy to them. And in general, I think the teams will start real fighting (seriously thinking) about winning the Europa League starting from the quarterfinals. Firstly, the cup will already be close, and secondly, the situation in the domestic championship will more or less become clear and those who will not succeed there will concentrate on this chance.

There are other teams who have won all their games so far and in fact, there are better than West Ham in this tournament. Well, apart from West Ham I think what we have to pay attention to is about Legia in group C, I believe Legia in this group is only underestimated but the fact is that Legia was able to beat the favorite team so far and it's the same as Sheriff Tiraspol in UCL. Shocked

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Marseille - Galatasaray game ended in a 0-0 draw. We watched a quite balanced game in the first half. I was impressed by Galatasaray's big effort to get ahead also. They were really close to scoring one goal in this half but the goalkeeper saved the shot very well. In the second half, Marseille started dominating the game completely. Galatasaray were able to take only one shot which was not even on target. But they still resisted Marseille and secured one point at the end. Marseille should be unhappy with this result.

Even though Marseille dominated the game, the overall match looked stagnant. We Can All See It In The Statistics. Marseille was only able to give 3 shots on goal from 11 attempts, while Galatasaray only had 1 shot on goal from 6 attempts.

With this result Galatasaray became the temporary leader of Group E and Marseille was in third place.

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As I watched the match I can agree with it. I mean just looking at statics generally give glimpse to us but draw in match was definitely not lucky one. Galatasaray defence looked pretty much solid full match with minor mistakes. I really like right back, Boey. Marseille on the other hand dominated the match wasn't very productive (even less productive than Lazio. Galatasaray deserved that point and leading position in group with that defense. But I wonder if this will keep going. Galatasaray may fail next time against Russian team if they get too relaxed with the position.

Lokomotiv Moscow got one point against Marseille and a 2-0 defeat against Lazio in their last game. Galatasaray played against them in 2018 away last and Lokomotiv Moscow were the side that won the game by 2-0. It was a Champions League game. It is really hard to predict the result of this game. But as long as Galatasaray don't improve their performance, they will have a big problem in this game most probably.

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Quote from: snipie on October 01, 2021, 05:33:57 PM

Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

West Ham did well in EPL last season but they aren't that successful right now at the opposite of EL where they are doing fine. After all as you said their group isn't that top..

Yes, this group looks really very easy to them. And in general, I think the teams will start real fighting (seriously thinking) about winning the Europa League starting from the quarterfinals. Firstly, the cup will already be close, and secondly, the situation in the domestic championship will more or less become clear and those who will not succeed there will concentrate on this chance.

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Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

Honestly i was expecting a draw at Zagreb,but they won easily against Dinamo there.For Rapid i was expecting that they destroy them even had over 2.5 goals on that match but ended just 2:0.Sadly VAR cancelled out the penalty for Rapid.But like you said they are performing really good and can go far in Europe League.

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Quote from: judas on October 01, 2021, 04:55:43 PM

West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

West Ham did well in EPL last season but they aren't that successful right now at the opposite of EL where they are doing fine. After all as you said their group isn't that top..

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West Ham are one of the teams that have been performing really good in this tournament so far. They defeated Dinamo Zagreb by 2-0 away first. After this win, they defeated Rapid Vienna by the same score also. They are one of the assertive teams here for achieving a nice success. But they still haven't come across very tough opponents yet. I really like them actually and they have a decent lineup also. They are a capable team to advance to upper rounds. They just need to keep focusing on every game properly.

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I am so confident that English teams will do well in this season's Europa. Even though Leicester want to prove otherwise, they will still do well at the end. Not withstanding that Leicester faced with better side of Italy, I didn't expect this poor start from them. Personally, I don't like betting on europa matches. I see them as clubs of equal strength, it's always difficult for me to predict. I always feel comfortable to predict europa when the big guys that could not make it in UCL joins them in Europa.
Westham could make England proud. Those guys are determined for success.

They're and was sure favorites for that match, I knew it was gonna be a three points for West Ham.
Having an experience Moyes,I think he has been brilliant with the team frommthe onset.
They'll be at home during the week, they're still likely to get a win, maybe a rotation of the squad to avoid fatigue of players.

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