UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 210.

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Quote from: condoras on October 01, 2021, 09:17:21 AM

Quote from: Slow death on September 30, 2021, 02:43:54 PM

look at the time when Napoli was reduced to 10 players and look at the time when he started to concede all goals, it is clear that he only lost because he was reduced to 10 players. any team when playing with 10 players is at a huge disadvantage even if it is playing against a weak team. The fact is that now Napoli and Leicester are in a bad situation in this group C

Even if Napoli had been down with ten men, that can't be an excuse for conceding 3 goals especially when they had the time and reorganize in halftime. Spartak plays smart, press accordingly, and manages to score more than enough to turn the game. Now things in this group look difficult for them but again Napoli can turn this around and qualify in the next phase. Btw who will think that Legia will be on the top with 2 wins in 2 matches... Shocked

I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for Napoli even while they are in a situation like that. Because they are still a far better team than Spartak Moscow and it was a home match also. They conceded 3 goals and were able to only decrease the goal difference to one. Napoli must be unpleased with this result but they will move on and continue to perform great in the Serie A in my opinion.

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Quote from: Ratash on October 01, 2021, 04:30:37 AM

Two unexpected results leicister lost to legia who are struggling on the polish league and napoli lost to spartak moscow at home with an odd of 14 the early goal for napoli should have made it easier for them but then a mistake caused them the red card which changed the course of the match.

I thought the match would end in a draw after one of the Napoli players got a red card in the first half. I predict the second half will be more difficult for Napoli because Spartak will take their chances and improve their game. The result was quite surprising because the final score of the match was 2-3 for Spartak Moscow's victory. A red card is a bad sign for a team in a match because it will usually cause the team's game to become unstable. But the match resulted in 2 red cards for each team. Now that Napoli and Leicester have only 1 point in 2 match, maybe that will change soon when matchday 3 is played.

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Quote from: condoras on October 01, 2021, 09:17:21 AM

Even if Napoli had been down with ten men, that can't be an excuse for conceding 3 goals especially when they had the time and reorganize in halftime. Spartak plays smart, press accordingly, and manages to score more than enough to turn the game. Now things in this group look difficult for them but again Napoli can turn this around and qualify in the next phase. Btw who will think that Legia will be on the top with 2 wins in 2 matches... Shocked

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 01, 2021, 05:13:07 AM

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I am so confident that English teams will do well in this season's Europa. Even though Leicester want to prove otherwise, they will still do well at the end. Not withstanding that Leicester faced with better side of Italy, I didn't expect this poor start from them. Personally, I don't like betting on europa matches. I see them as clubs of equal strength, it's always difficult for me to predict. I always feel comfortable to predict europa when the big guys that could not make it in UCL joins them in Europa.
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^ I will have to disagree with you there mate. Yes, English League teams are decent, actually, all the teams in Europa League are somewhat of equal strength. But I think this season Italian teams will excel in Europa League. Just look at how good Napoli has been playing in Italian League. They are first over there competing with teams like Inter, Milan, and Roma. Lazio is even placed 6th. Napoli has been playing so well this season and has won every match in their league and they have got a solid defense with conceding only 2 goals in 6 matches. On the other hand, West Ham is placed 7th and Leicester is placed 13th. So I'm guessing Italian teams will do better over English teams.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 30, 2021, 03:19:07 PM

We watched a very balanced first half in the Marseille - Galatasaray match. I was actually expecting Marseille to have the control of the match but I really appreciate Galatasaray's effort as they are not letting their opponent do that. The second half has started. And it seems like the winner will be able to win by a very close margin if we have a winner at the end.

In this phase of Europa League matches we have no surprise because most of the teams done their job perfectly Braga came from behind and won match by 3 - 1 Leverkusen give some good lesson to Celtic who was very good at home now already lost 2 out of 2 matches West Ham is also going with his perfect record and now have 6 points from 2 matches Lazio and Zagreb also done their good job and won their matches just French side Marseille fail to end deadlock against Turkish side Galatasaray with 0 - 0 and with this result Turkish side is leading in this group and Marseille is spot at third position now in next match they are going to face Lazio which mean more bad result for them, and they are out of this competition.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 01, 2021, 04:47:54 AM

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Marseille - Galatasaray game ended in a 0-0 draw. We watched a quite balanced game in the first half. I was impressed by Galatasaray's big effort to get ahead also. They were really close to scoring one goal in this half but the goalkeeper saved the shot very well. In the second half, Marseille started dominating the game completely. Galatasaray were able to take only one shot which was not even on target. But they still resisted Marseille and secured one point at the end. Marseille should be unhappy with this result.

Although the match was stopped due to the action of the audience, the second match continued to be fierce, Although Marseille, who acted as the host, was able to control possession, marseile was very difficult to create chances and it was recorded that they were only able to record 3 shot on target during the match, With a draw in that match, Galatasaray are now in 1st position in Group E standings with 4 points, while Marseille is in 3rd place with 2 points.

I really appreciate Galatasaray's results that they got in their first two games in their group. Maybe they weren't the best in those games but they still managed to collect 4 points in two games and that's the most important thing for a team in these tournaments. However, they can't maintain their unbeaten streak forever as long as they are playing inconsistently. They should be better to be able to reach upper rounds.

So far they are playing pretty well, but if they can't improve the quality of their game in the next match of course their position in the standings is threatened, I think 4 points for Galatasaray is not enough for them to get a guarantee of qualifying for the next phase, because it could be that other teams will try to get up in the second leg later, although currently Galatasaray are unbeaten in the European League, but I am a little disappointed with the ability of their players to score goals and so far Galatasaray have only been able to break into the opponent's goal once.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 30, 2021, 02:43:54 PM

look at the time when Napoli was reduced to 10 players and look at the time when he started to concede all goals, it is clear that he only lost because he was reduced to 10 players. any team when playing with 10 players is at a huge disadvantage even if it is playing against a weak team. The fact is that now Napoli and Leicester are in a bad situation in this group C

Even if Napoli had been down with ten men, that can't be an excuse for conceding 3 goals especially when they had the time and reorganize in halftime. Spartak plays smart, press accordingly, and manages to score more than enough to turn the game. Now things in this group look difficult for them but again Napoli can turn this around and qualify in the next phase. Btw who will think that Legia will be on the top with 2 wins in 2 matches... Shocked

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Quote from: Harkorede on September 30, 2021, 11:41:07 AM

I've got Leicester City ML and Frankfurt Over 2.5 goal for the first of fixtures for today..

I'm expecting Leicester to make up for their shortcomings of the opening fixture against Napoli, while Frankfurt vs Antwerp looks like a fixture that'd see some goals scored.

Yeah, that's how they won. I knew they'd lose, because it's always the same - they beat the strongest - they lose to the weakest. In 8 years of being a fan of this club I'm used to it, so I'm not even surprised. It's surprising that the weakest teams in the group now make the playoffs. I think things are going to change.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 01, 2021, 05:13:07 AM

I am so confident that English teams will do well in this season's Europa. Even though Leicester want to prove otherwise, they will still do well at the end. Not withstanding that Leicester faced with better side of Italy, I didn't expect this poor start from them. Personally, I don't like betting on europa matches. I see them as clubs of equal strength, it's always difficult for me to predict. I always feel comfortable to predict europa when the big guys that could not make it in UCL joins them in Europa.
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An amazing result, but rather from Napoli. Spartak is famous for being very unstable and can lose to an obvious outsider, but it can also beat any team. If you could read the comments of Russian fans (Spartak has a very large fan base in its country and a large number of haters) after Spartak conceded a goal in the first seconds Grin

Spartak Moscow isnt a bad team at all . They are really solid in europe gor many years and this red card showed that they could win against big teams. I think most of us lost our bets on Napoli. But that tackle was really stupid could have even injured heavily the Spartak player

Historically, Spartak is certainly not bad, but it's terrible this season, believe me. In addition to weak results in games (the middle of the standings in the national championship), the club is now mired in a series of scandals related to its owner and his mistress who interferes with the management of the club, the fans are furious with this and so far it is not clear how this whole situation will be resolved.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 01, 2021, 05:13:07 AM

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As I am Austrian, I prefer Dynamo Zagreb to win in any case, so Rapid Vienna still has a small chance for promotion and 3rd place even if it is rather unlikely in the condition Rapid is in right now. But the chance is still there due to the victory of Dynamo.

yeah, Rapid still has chances, but they need to win next game, and practically not to lose in two matches with Dinamo to stay with some chances
it is of course important what will West Ham do after securing their top spot, maybe they will take it easy in last two matches?

Crvena Zvezda was without several important players, but won in Bulgaria, and they are on the top of their group, need one more win to secure next round
many surprises last night in Europa league first batch, second batch was almost all as expected

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Quote from: MAAManda on September 30, 2021, 06:02:49 PM

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Marseille - Galatasaray game ended in a 0-0 draw. We watched a quite balanced game in the first half. I was impressed by Galatasaray's big effort to get ahead also. They were really close to scoring one goal in this half but the goalkeeper saved the shot very well. In the second half, Marseille started dominating the game completely. Galatasaray were able to take only one shot which was not even on target. But they still resisted Marseille and secured one point at the end. Marseille should be unhappy with this result.

Even though Marseille dominated the game, the overall match looked stagnant. We Can All See It In The Statistics. Marseille was only able to give 3 shots on goal from 11 attempts, while Galatasaray only had 1 shot on goal from 6 attempts.

With this result Galatasaray became the temporary leader of Group E and Marseille was in third place.

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As I watched the match I can agree with it. I mean just looking at statics generally give glimpse to us but draw in match was definitely not lucky one. Galatasaray defence looked pretty much solid full match with minor mistakes. I really like right back, Boey. Marseille on the other hand dominated the match wasn't very productive (even less productive than Lazio. Galatasaray deserved that point and leading position in group with that defense. But I wonder if this will keep going. Galatasaray may fail next time against Russian team if they get too relaxed with the position.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 01, 2021, 02:45:22 AM

A good win for Dinamo, great to see them bounce after the West Ham loss. This is a passable group for them, if they do well in their next 2 games against Rapid they will almost certainly qualify for the knockouts.

3-0 looks like a big result but Dinamo wasn't really that dominant, they had 2 penalties for really amateur reactions from Genk defenders.

Check Petković's first penalty if you didn't already, if I was his manager, he'd never take one again.

As I am Austrian, I prefer Dynamo Zagreb to win in any case, so Rapid Vienna still has a small chance for promotion and 3rd place even if it is rather unlikely in the condition Rapid is in right now. But the chance is still there due to the victory of Dynamo.

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Quote from: DU18 on October 01, 2021, 02:28:14 AM

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Marseille - Galatasaray game ended in a 0-0 draw. We watched a quite balanced game in the first half. I was impressed by Galatasaray's big effort to get ahead also. They were really close to scoring one goal in this half but the goalkeeper saved the shot very well. In the second half, Marseille started dominating the game completely. Galatasaray were able to take only one shot which was not even on target. But they still resisted Marseille and secured one point at the end. Marseille should be unhappy with this result.

Although the match was stopped due to the action of the audience, the second match continued to be fierce, Although Marseille, who acted as the host, was able to control possession, marseile was very difficult to create chances and it was recorded that they were only able to record 3 shot on target during the match, With a draw in that match, Galatasaray are now in 1st position in Group E standings with 4 points, while Marseille is in 3rd place with 2 points.

I really appreciate Galatasaray's results that they got in their first two games in their group. Maybe they weren't the best in those games but they still managed to collect 4 points in two games and that's the most important thing for a team in these tournaments. However, they can't maintain their unbeaten streak forever as long as they are playing inconsistently. They should be better to be able to reach upper rounds.

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Two unexpected results leicister lost to legia who are struggling on the polish league and napoli lost to spartak moscow at home with an odd of 14 the early goal for napoli should have made it easier for them but then a mistake caused them the red card which changed the course of the match.

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Lazio played a comfortable match against Lokomotiv Moscow and defeated them by 2-0. They scored the goals in the first half already and finished the job. Lokomotiv Moscow's chance was really low here already before the match started. They got a lucky draw against Marseille maybe but winning against Lazio away is not an easy task to make it happen.

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Quote from: slackovic on October 01, 2021, 01:05:01 AM

Damn it, I should have put some money on Dinamo yesterday. I had a feeling they could surprise us with a win, but I didn't expect a game like that. They let Genk have the ball and waited for their chances. We really needed to win this game to boost the morale. The next game is vs. Rapid in Wien. After a game like last night Rapid shouldn't be much of a problem, but with Dinamo you never know.

I kept my money for the victory of Dinamo Zagreb. If we compare the Zagreb team with KRC Jenk, then the Zagreb team must be ahead. Dinamo Zagreb is a stable and strong team. And they were expected to win. However, I think they will be able to maintain their winning streak in the next match. The Rapid Vienna team is not stable.

I think it's obvious, West Ham and Dinamo Zagreb will dominate the group but this 3-0 win away was a surprise for me too. For the next match where Dinamo Zagreb will play against Rapid Vienna, I think this will be another easy win for Zagreb, because Genk who was able to win against Rapid Vienna proved that Rapid might be weaker and or less prepared in this competition so it is difficult for him to play well even playing at home.

It may seem obvious for people not that close to Dinamo. History has taught us that Dinamo players have a nasty habit to play good when no one expect that from them and to play lousy when everyone expects an easy win. That's why I'm not that confident in an easy win against Rapid. We will see...

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 01, 2021, 01:13:31 AM

Quote from: slackovic on October 01, 2021, 01:05:01 AM

Damn it, I should have put some money on Dinamo yesterday. I had a feeling they could surprise us with a win, but I didn't expect a game like that. They let Genk have the ball and waited for their chances. We really needed to win this game to boost the morale. The next game is vs. Rapid in Wien. After a game like last night Rapid shouldn't be much of a problem, but with Dinamo you never know.

I kept my money for the victory of Dinamo Zagreb. If we compare the Zagreb team with KRC Jenk, then the Zagreb team must be ahead. Dinamo Zagreb is a stable and strong team. And they were expected to win. However, I think they will be able to maintain their winning streak in the next match. The Rapid Vienna team is not stable.

I think it's obvious, West Ham and Dinamo Zagreb will dominate the group but this 3-0 win away was a surprise for me too. For the next match where Dinamo Zagreb will play against Rapid Vienna, I think this will be another easy win for Zagreb, because Genk who was able to win against Rapid Vienna proved that Rapid might be weaker and or less prepared in this competition so it is difficult for him to play well even playing at home.

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Celtic have been performing really poor in the Europa League like they did in the last season. First, they were defeated by Betis 4-3 and Leverkusen obliterated them by 4-0 away yesterday also. I know that Leverkusen are a much better team than them. They are one of the best teams in the Bundesliga in the end. But we are still talking about Celtic and they are not a weak team. They couldn't score even one goal.

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