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Quote from: terrorJR on April 22, 2022, 03:47:58 PM

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Hmm... very strange odds in the first pair. If it is assumed that West Ham will reach the final, then obviously the result of the home game will most likely contribute to this. That is, 1.8 reflects the likelihood that West Ham will win this pair at all. The bookies think that West Ham will win the title with 2.95 odds (I discussed this above). It turns out that if we consider these probabilities as a multibet, then 1.8 x (win against Leipzig) = 2.95. It turns out that the odds of West Ham against Leipzig are 1.64.
This looks like some kind of mistake. We need to think about how to take advantage of this Roll Eyes

1.8 for a club that is quite seeded of course this is very good and very interesting to be there.
Maybe in this case the bookies think about their performance in the previous match and in the EPL which makes even though they are the favorite but there are some things that will happen there. because indeed if you look at their current performance they are very easy to penetrate on the other hand their midfield is also not too strong for now

It's not about how the team plays and what is the probability that it will win the title. It's a matter of mathematics - if you look at it from the point of view of betting, then the chances of winning the title are equal to the chances of winning the semi-finals multiplied by the chances of winning the final. But in this case, it turns out that West Ham will beat Leipzig with a higher probability than Frankfurt, that is, it turns out that Frankfurt is quoted higher than Leipzig (but this is not true since we saw the quotes for the title).

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Quote from: omgitsmehehe on April 22, 2022, 05:55:30 PM

Despite beating Barcelona in the quarter final of the Europa league competition, I don't think Eintracht Frankfurt might qualify. Though they played so well in their last Europa league game, but that doesn't give them the privilege to qualify. West Ham have been outstanding in the Europa league competition, though the both teams really needs the win to secure a place in the champions league next season.

This Europa League is indeed very difficult to predict who will qualify for the next stage, but if you look at their respective leagues for this season, obviously West Ham are slightly ahead of Eintracht Frankfurt, but in terms of the Europa League I think Eintracht Frankfurt will also trying to win because it's about securing a place in the Champions League next season.

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For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

I agree with you, as far as I can see Leipzig is one of the best teams of this year and they are playing with a very good performance both in their league and in European matches and they are winning their matches (: Rangers are also a good team, but they are not as good as Leipzig and they will not have much chance in this matchup we can even say that Leipzig is one of the strongest champion candidates of this tournament

Rangers are the only team that is a tough competitor in the title race in the local league, although this season they are not looking so good but Rangers are the second best team in the local league. But indeed, the chances here in the Europa League are not so good, because the quality of their local league is different and it is clear that teams from the Bundesliga have a better chance of qualifying for the final. But I personally can't say that Leipzig is a strong candidate for the team that won the Europa League title this season, because there is still West Ham there who seems to be a strong opponent. Is it possible that this season's final will be a Bundesliga team match for Eintracht Frankfurt v Leipzig, I think it is possible but still the two teams in the final will have the same chance of winning.

Obviously, the two teams in the finals are going to have the same chances of winning. that is why they are in the finals. Now I expect RB Leipzig to win the match. they should be the team to advance.

But to be honest, for me the interest in Europe League is just lessened a little bit because Barcelona is not there anymore and if they were playing in the Europa league till now it would have been a lot more interesting.

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 23, 2022, 06:52:47 AM

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For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

I agree with you, as far as I can see Leipzig is one of the best teams of this year and they are playing with a very good performance both in their league and in European matches and they are winning their matches (: Rangers are also a good team, but they are not as good as Leipzig and they will not have much chance in this matchup we can even say that Leipzig is one of the strongest champion candidates of this tournament

yes there is no doubt that Leipzig are currently in good form both in the Europa League and in the domestic league, they are very consistent and in terms of quality Leipzig are also far superior. I think that Leipzig is very likely to win and advance to the Europa League final this season.

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Quote from: AndySt on April 22, 2022, 07:39:17 PM

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Yes, I think there are no surprises there, maybe only for Eintracht Frankfurt because the team he knocked out was the favorite team was Barcelona. But for the rest of the team I think it's natural for them to reach this stage, and about Rangers they also have a fairly even opponent. Yes, Rangers' opponents in the quarter-finals will be Braga even though, Braga in the local league is not a regular title-winning team, so it's not a surprise at all maybe except for only Eintracht Frankfurt.

It is shocked to see Barcelona failed. More shocked to see they were beaten by three goals. And more surprised to knkw they could not score at least one goal. Because before that terrible loss, Barcelona have many good matches amd scored a lot of goals. Combined them all, the win of Frankfurt is a big surprise. Looking at four clubs in semi final, I consider West Ham and Leipzig as better clubs and I bet them will play against each other in the final of Europa League. Frankfurt will be beaten by West Ham in my opinion.

Actually, for the sake of fairness, it is worth recalling that Barcelona scored two goals in the time added by the referee. And so, if you take the pre-match layouts and if you don't watch the matches themselves, then yes, you can call Eintracht's victory and reaching the semifinals a big surprise. For me personally, when I watched the first match performed by these rivals, I immediately thought that Eintracht has certain chances of winning the final and therefore it did not come as a big shock to me. The only thing that came as a definite shock was how the second leg itself was shaping up and the three-goal advantage that was formed at a certain point in time. As for Frankfurt and West Ham, I would not rush with forecasts, Eintracht is too unpredictable this season.

To be honest for me it doesn't matter how much preparation the opponent took for a while they have played in the match, Barcelona losing that match is going to be always a shock for me. they really should not have lost that match.

I know that he would look at the differences personally and it is a little self-explanatory why they have lost that match. but anywhere I think Xavi has done quite well with his team and did really well too to make the team reach his spot.

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Quote from: hahay on April 23, 2022, 10:57:00 AM

Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 23, 2022, 06:52:47 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on April 22, 2022, 12:15:26 PM

For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

I agree with you, as far as I can see Leipzig is one of the best teams of this year and they are playing with a very good performance both in their league and in European matches and they are winning their matches (: Rangers are also a good team, but they are not as good as Leipzig and they will not have much chance in this matchup we can even say that Leipzig is one of the strongest champion candidates of this tournament

Rangers are the only team that is a tough competitor in the title race in the local league, although this season they are not looking so good but Rangers are the second best team in the local league. But indeed, the chances here in the Europa League are not so good, because the quality of their local league is different and it is clear that teams from the Bundesliga have a better chance of qualifying for the final. But I personally can't say that Leipzig is a strong candidate for the team that won the Europa League title this season, because there is still West Ham there who seems to be a strong opponent. Is it possible that this season's final will be a Bundesliga team match for Eintracht Frankfurt v Leipzig, I think it is possible but still the two teams in the final will have the same chance of winning.

To me West Ham is one of the strongest team in the Europa league, so concluding that the two remaining bundesliga team will be facing each other in the final is unaccepted by me. I think West Ham shouldn't be underestimated, I think they are one of the good contenders for the title. So my predictions goes this way West Ham might be facing any of the teams in the finals.

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 23, 2022, 06:52:47 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on April 22, 2022, 12:15:26 PM

For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

I agree with you, as far as I can see Leipzig is one of the best teams of this year and they are playing with a very good performance both in their league and in European matches and they are winning their matches (: Rangers are also a good team, but they are not as good as Leipzig and they will not have much chance in this matchup we can even say that Leipzig is one of the strongest champion candidates of this tournament

Rangers are the only team that is a tough competitor in the title race in the local league, although this season they are not looking so good but Rangers are the second best team in the local league. But indeed, the chances here in the Europa League are not so good, because the quality of their local league is different and it is clear that teams from the Bundesliga have a better chance of qualifying for the final. But I personally can't say that Leipzig is a strong candidate for the team that won the Europa League title this season, because there is still West Ham there who seems to be a strong opponent. Is it possible that this season's final will be a Bundesliga team match for Eintracht Frankfurt v Leipzig, I think it is possible but still the two teams in the final will have the same chance of winning.

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 22, 2022, 12:15:26 PM

For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

I agree with you, as far as I can see Leipzig is one of the best teams of this year and they are playing with a very good performance both in their league and in European matches and they are winning their matches (: Rangers are also a good team, but they are not as good as Leipzig and they will not have much chance in this matchup we can even say that Leipzig is one of the strongest champion candidates of this tournament

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Yes, I think there are no surprises there, maybe only for Eintracht Frankfurt because the team he knocked out was the favorite team was Barcelona. But for the rest of the team I think it's natural for them to reach this stage, and about Rangers they also have a fairly even opponent. Yes, Rangers' opponents in the quarter-finals will be Braga even though, Braga in the local league is not a regular title-winning team, so it's not a surprise at all maybe except for only Eintracht Frankfurt.

It is shocked to see Barcelona failed. More shocked to see they were beaten by three goals. And more surprised to knkw they could not score at least one goal. Because before that terrible loss, Barcelona have many good matches amd scored a lot of goals. Combined them all, the win of Frankfurt is a big surprise. Looking at four clubs in semi final, I consider West Ham and Leipzig as better clubs and I bet them will play against each other in the final of Europa League. Frankfurt will be beaten by West Ham in my opinion.

Actually, for the sake of fairness, it is worth recalling that Barcelona scored two goals in the time added by the referee. And so, if you take the pre-match layouts and if you don't watch the matches themselves, then yes, you can call Eintracht's victory and reaching the semifinals a big surprise. For me personally, when I watched the first match performed by these rivals, I immediately thought that Eintracht has certain chances of winning the final and therefore it did not come as a big shock to me. The only thing that came as a definite shock was how the second leg itself was shaping up and the three-goal advantage that was formed at a certain point in time. As for Frankfurt and West Ham, I would not rush with forecasts, Eintracht is too unpredictable this season.

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Eintracht Frankfurt might not be an easy competitor for West Ham in the semi final round. But West Ham are still a big favourite against them here of course. There is a visible gap of strength between them normally and West Ham really want this title at the same time. These things should be very advantageous for them already now. I expect West Ham to dominate the first game which is in England and win by at least two goals. This would definitely be enough for them to advance to the finale.

No doubt there is gape of strength between West Ham United and Frankfurt but still this is going to be very tough match between these two teams as after beating Barcelona their confidence is high, and they are looking for some better result after humiliation in Bundesliga as currently they are at 10th spot.

West Ham United is doing amazing job even they are also dropping into Premier League but still much better and having better quality and giving better performance after this all first match is surely going to be very interesting as If Home team able to have 2+ lead then surely they are going to final otherwise we can expect something shocking from Frankfurt in second round as they will try to take advantage.

Despite beating Barcelona in the quarter final of the Europa league competition, I don't think Eintracht Frankfurt might qualify. Though they played so well in their last Europa league game, but that doesn't give them the privilege to qualify. West Ham have been outstanding in the Europa league competition, though the both teams really needs the win to secure a place in the champions league next season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 22, 2022, 12:15:26 PM

For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

Leipzig have good chance lead to final and I want to see final match West Ham United vs Leipzig, but still can't predicting with Frankfurt and Ranger have been success lead until semifinal on this season, exactly with Frankfurt have close chance qualify to europe league competition next season trough domestic league after stuck on 10th position standing, will try alternative way become the europe league champion give slot for UEFA competition next season.

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Quote from: coco23 on April 21, 2022, 11:56:27 PM

West Ham vs Frankfurt 1.8/3.6/4.3

Leipzig vs Rangers 1.4/4.75/8.0

A bit less than 1 week left for the first legs of the semi-final. I think we will see victories by both home teams, the question for me is, how many goals difference will they be able to get?
Only 1 goal difference might not be safe to survive this round if things go wrong in the second leg...

The odds for West Ham winning (1.8 ) seem tempting to put some money on it. Of course Frankfurt will be motivated, but I don't think they have the quality (and luck) to repeat their Barcelona game. It seems to me that many people are over-estimating their abilites right now.

Hmm... very strange odds in the first pair. If it is assumed that West Ham will reach the final, then obviously the result of the home game will most likely contribute to this. That is, 1.8 reflects the likelihood that West Ham will win this pair at all. The bookies think that West Ham will win the title with 2.95 odds (I discussed this above). It turns out that if we consider these probabilities as a multibet, then 1.8 x (win against Leipzig) = 2.95. It turns out that the odds of West Ham against Leipzig are 1.64.
This looks like some kind of mistake. We need to think about how to take advantage of this Roll Eyes

1.8 for a club that is quite seeded of course this is very good and very interesting to be there.
Maybe in this case the bookies think about their performance in the previous match and in the EPL which makes even though they are the favorite but there are some things that will happen there. because indeed if you look at their current performance they are very easy to penetrate on the other hand their midfield is also not too strong for now

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 22, 2022, 11:15:46 AM

Eintracht Frankfurt might not be an easy competitor for West Ham in the semi final round. But West Ham are still a big favourite against them here of course. There is a visible gap of strength between them normally and West Ham really want this title at the same time. These things should be very advantageous for them already now. I expect West Ham to dominate the first game which is in England and win by at least two goals. This would definitely be enough for them to advance to the finale.

No doubt there is gape of strength between West Ham United and Frankfurt but still this is going to be very tough match between these two teams as after beating Barcelona their confidence is high, and they are looking for some better result after humiliation in Bundesliga as currently they are at 10th spot.

West Ham United is doing amazing job even they are also dropping into Premier League but still much better and having better quality and giving better performance after this all first match is surely going to be very interesting as If Home team able to have 2+ lead then surely they are going to final otherwise we can expect something shocking from Frankfurt in second round as they will try to take advantage.

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Quote from: coco23 on April 21, 2022, 11:56:27 PM

West Ham vs Frankfurt 1.8/3.6/4.3

Leipzig vs Rangers 1.4/4.75/8.0

A bit less than 1 week left for the first legs of the semi-final. I think we will see victories by both home teams, the question for me is, how many goals difference will they be able to get?
Only 1 goal difference might not be safe to survive this round if things go wrong in the second leg...

The odds for West Ham winning (1.8 ) seem tempting to put some money on it. Of course Frankfurt will be motivated, but I don't think they have the quality (and luck) to repeat their Barcelona game. It seems to me that many people are over-estimating their abilites right now.

Hmm... very strange odds in the first pair. If it is assumed that West Ham will reach the final, then obviously the result of the home game will most likely contribute to this. That is, 1.8 reflects the likelihood that West Ham will win this pair at all. The bookies think that West Ham will win the title with 2.95 odds (I discussed this above). It turns out that if we consider these probabilities as a multibet, then 1.8 x (win against Leipzig) = 2.95. It turns out that the odds of West Ham against Leipzig are 1.64.
This looks like some kind of mistake. We need to think about how to take advantage of this Roll Eyes

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For the Leipzig vs Rangers game next week, I believe that Leipzig have a really big chance to defeat their opponent. Rangers have been one of the fascinating teams of the Europa League so far surely. However this might be the end of the road for them. Because Leipzig are a stronger team than them now and they are one of the teams that want the title a lot. In Germany, I don't think that Rangers would have a great game against them. I expect Leipzig to destroy Rangers in the first leg already and finish the job later on.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 22, 2022, 11:15:46 AM

Eintracht Frankfurt might not be an easy competitor for West Ham in the semi final round. But West Ham are still a big favourite against them here of course. There is a visible gap of strength between them normally and West Ham really want this title at the same time. These things should be very advantageous for them already now. I expect West Ham to dominate the first game which is in England and win by at least two goals. This would definitely be enough for them to advance to the finale.

Maybe this will be an opportunity for Westham to get a ticket to the champions league, because in the domestic league Westham's opportunity to get a ticket to the champions league is very difficult, because they will definitely lose to compete with totenham, Manchester united and Arsenal, Moyes must take advantage of the opportunity them to be able to get a ticket to the champions league next season, it's true that Frankfurt is not an easy opponent, the proof is that they were able to make a surprise by beating Barcelona at home, if Moyes is able to bring Westham to the champions league next season, it's definitely Moyes' move to bring star player will be easier.

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all the remaining teams that competed in the semifinals were surprise teams, and I think all of these teams have the same chance to advance to the final and also become champions because the quality of the teams is not much different and very balanced.

I don't think it's appropriate to say it's a surprise because they've all fought really well this season even though last season it looked bad or not as good as it is now.
But every struggle of the club that is still left deserves appreciation because they are still able to survive until this moment.

Yes, I think there are no surprises there, maybe only for Eintracht Frankfurt because the team he knocked out was the favorite team was Barcelona. But for the rest of the team I think it's natural for them to reach this stage, and about Rangers they also have a fairly even opponent. Yes, Rangers' opponents in the quarter-finals will be Braga even though, Braga in the local league is not a regular title-winning team, so it's not a surprise at all maybe except for only Eintracht Frankfurt.

I know that we are all trying to be humble but I think the winning of Frankfurt was certainly a surprise. Honestly, no one expected them to win against Barcelona in that match.
But about all the other teams I think they are quite deserving of their position in the Europa League right now.

By the way, I am not also saying that Frankfurt did not deserve the win. They obviously played well and that's why they were able to beat Barcelona.

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Eintracht Frankfurt might not be an easy competitor for West Ham in the semi final round. But West Ham are still a big favourite against them here of course. There is a visible gap of strength between them normally and West Ham really want this title at the same time. These things should be very advantageous for them already now. I expect West Ham to dominate the first game which is in England and win by at least two goals. This would definitely be enough for them to advance to the finale.

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In last two seasons West Ham United having amazing success under Moya's leadership and still they are capable of winning this title because their performance in Europa Cup is still as they started and having no bad result even they are having some problems in Premier League where now they are fighting for their next year's Europa Cup spot against Wolves because due to poor form they are already out of Champions League contention.

But, here now they are going to face another very impressive team which already beat Barcelona even they are also not good in Bundesliga and having terrible season with currently staying at 10th spot and no chance for next year's any European cup, so hopefully they will do their best for this title.

I think Westham cannot underestimate their upon and this time. Because even though they are not playing well in their own league, they have been playing really well in Europa League, and just because they are not playing well in their own league I think they will use all their power to win the Europa League matches. And that's what makes them a lot more dangerous in my opinion.

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Quote from: hd49728 on April 22, 2022, 09:26:58 AM

Looking at four clubs in semi final, I consider West Ham and Leipzig as better clubs and I bet them will play against each other in the final of Europa League. Frankfurt will be beaten by West Ham in my opinion.

To me, Frankfurt and Leipzig seem to be the favorites. It was not easy to win at Camp Nou against Barcelona. They did this hard task. I don't think the West Ham team is weak. But the performance of this team is very irregular. In the last two matches in the Premier League, they have lost to Brentford, and drawn with weaker teams like Burnley. And they will not win against Frankfurt if they perform poorly.
On the other hand, Leipzig's opponents are the Rangers. Although Leipzig is the favorite in this match, they will make mistake if they thought that the Rangers is a weak opponent. The Leipzig team must play carefully if they want to win.

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