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April 20, 2022, 12:23:54 AM
Barcelona has come very close. I saw that an injury time of no less than 11 minutes had been added. 2-3 yet. If that goal had not been disallowed by the VAR, it would have even become 3-3. But that doesn't count. Barcelona started playing football far too late. At halftime it was already 0-2, which was a harbinger of the elimination. They're going to be really pissed off there now. Last chance to win a prize.

ya.ya.yo!

This game confused me a lot, I didn't think that Barcelona was going to play so badly, well it's not that they play badly but honestly as they have been doing their job throughout the tournament it usually looks strange when they play like that, well one expects that exploit that they finish off the rival, I don't know if it is the level of demand that Xavi has of them that the pressure on the players is evident, worse still for me the Barcelona game was a very bad game.

Because of behavior like this, Barcelona was left out, something that surprised me and I know that many friends lost their bets, in fact, all my friends lost, because I wasn't a Barcelona fan I didn't lose...something that honestly saved me.


Stop comparing the teams of the other fourth league against the Premier Leagues one, because as you know the teams of Premier League have a lot of adavantage over the rest, they received so much money than the other and this can do you buy better and more players. But this never do they win in Europe a lot for example; the last team in the Premier League owns the same amount of money for TV rights than the 4 team in LaLiga this is demential.
Al so teams in championship (english 2 division) receive more money than the teams in other leagues.
I would say it is not always the same though. I mean premier league teams could be getting more money, but they are also being asked more money as well. Same level of player getting paid maybe like 3 million euro in France, asks for 10 million euro in UK because he knows that they can afford it.

This is why I believe that it is both a great deal for premier league teams to be paid that much but it is also a curse since players knows how much they could get paid there. All players would love to go to UK because they will be paid more there, and that understanding causes premier league teams to overpay for players and not get anyone "that" much better.

I'm with you in that statement, previously it was the Spanish and Italian leagues that paid very well, now things have changed, I don't know if it's because of the amount of money and that there are more fans for the Premier League, but now even in South America soccer fans are talking more about the Premier League than about any other league such as the Brazilian, Argentine, Colombian, I think that the more business models continue to be developed, the more attractive it will obviously be to everyone.
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April 19, 2022, 04:33:21 PM
Stop comparing the teams of the other fourth league against the Premier Leagues one, because as you know the teams of Premier League have a lot of adavantage over the rest, they received so much money than the other and this can do you buy better and more players. But this never do they win in Europe a lot for example; the last team in the Premier League owns the same amount of money for TV rights than the 4 team in LaLiga this is demential.
Al so teams in championship (english 2 division) receive more money than the teams in other leagues.
I would say it is not always the same though. I mean premier league teams could be getting more money, but they are also being asked more money as well. Same level of player getting paid maybe like 3 million euro in France, asks for 10 million euro in UK because he knows that they can afford it.

This is why I believe that it is both a great deal for premier league teams to be paid that much but it is also a curse since players knows how much they could get paid there. All players would love to go to UK because they will be paid more there, and that understanding causes premier league teams to overpay for players and not get anyone "that" much better.
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April 19, 2022, 01:55:37 PM
There were several Barcelona players who did bad quite in that match, one of which was Aubameyang who failed to take advantage of several golden opportunities to score goals and also besides Aubameyang, Erick Garcia was also unable to intercept well and in the end resulted in a foul that resulted in a penalty, however despite all the bad results that barcelona got, I think xavi has done a good job and they were just unlucky to get through to the semifinals.

To be honest I think this Barcelona team is not so accustomed to pressure as the previous Barcelona team was. And the pressure of winning the Europa League title actually got to them.

I agreed that a lot of Barcelona players made mistakes in that match but I also think that the opponent did really well to win against Barcelona. The penalty was not it result of dumb luck.
I think the opponent saw that in the last match Barcelona did not defend well in the six-yard box and that's why they pressured in that area so that they can make something out of it.

What you say is true, a good performance from barcelona was not accompanied by a strong mentality to bear the pressure, especially when they found out that the camp nou stadium was filled with frankfurt supporters and it seemed as if they had played away twice when they saw the situation. I also did not expect if the performance and speed of the Frankfurt players were able to destroy the barcelona defense in that match, I thought after the defeat to frankfurt barcelona would be able to bounce back in the league, but in fact they are getting worse when they have to face a team that defends and has a better mentality in the league , defeats to frankfurt in the european league and also cadiz in the league made me start to think is it possible if xavi's magic has ended now?
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April 19, 2022, 01:23:31 PM
Stop comparing the teams of the other fourth league against the Premier Leagues one, because as you know the teams of Premier League have a lot of adavantage over the rest, they received so much money than the other and this can do you buy better and more players. But this never do they win in Europe a lot for example; the last team in the Premier League owns the same amount of money for TV rights than the 4 team in LaLiga this is demential.
Al so teams in championship (english 2 division) receive more money than the teams in other leagues.

Could you be more precise in numbers and provide links to your data? I would be interested to see. But I think you are confusing something. There may be some individual income items in the Premier League that are much higher than others, but in general the gap is not so big. And certainly at the level of top clubs such as Real Madrid, Bayern, Juventus, etc. only top English clubs can compete.
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April 19, 2022, 10:36:10 AM
Indeed moyes did a good job at westham this season, apart from being able to make westham compete for the top 4 in the league, westham is now also one of the title challenger clubs in the european league, but even so you can't underestimate the other 3 teams, leipzig, lyon and frankfurt has the same opportunity to end the competition by winning a trophy, seeing frankfurt's ability to stop barcelona in the semifinals made me make frankfurt the favorite this season.
I think West Ham United favorite can reach until final stage on UEFA Europe League although Frankfurt success eliminated Barcelona on quarte final I think West Ham United have different games play, counter attack as style of primer league team will make Bundesliga team face difficult how to stop West Ham United. I think  West Ham have chance for first time can play on Europe League final and still ability with winner and got champion league spot next season.
Indeed Westham game really reflects most of the English Premier League teams that are aggressive in attacking, but I think the pattern of Westham and Frankfurt's game doesn't look much different, if you watch the match against Barcelona in the last quarter-finals, surely you know the advantages of the Frankfurt players with speed and also a solid defense, so I think both teams might have the same big chance to reach the finals later, even though I'm a fan of the English league but to be honest I saw frankfurt game both at home and at home is quite extraordinary and I think they deserve it to be favorited this season.
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April 19, 2022, 09:34:05 AM
Stop comparing the teams of the other fourth league against the Premier Leagues one, because as you know the teams of Premier League have a lot of adavantage over the rest, they received so much money than the other and this can do you buy better and more players. But this never do they win in Europe a lot for example; the last team in the Premier League owns the same amount of money for TV rights than the 4 team in LaLiga this is demential.
Al so teams in championship (english 2 division) receive more money than the teams in other leagues.
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April 19, 2022, 05:41:30 AM
It's possible that West Ham will qualify for the final, I don't see Frankfurt as better than West Ham. Not a guarantee that Frankfurt managed
to get rid of Barcelona to become an unbeaten team, even in the Bundesliga, Frankfurt's performance was very disappointing, in the last 5
matches Frankfurt was only able to win once. At least West Ham's performance is a little better when playing in the Premier League,
and also the level of competition in the Premier League is indeed better than the Bundesliga.
West Ham United have good performance on domestic league than Frankfurt have been on 10th position standing than West Ham United keep consistent on 7th standing place, depending most competitive Primer League competition than Bundesliga. But couldn't be compare performance on domestic league because Frankfurt have ended chance can qualify for Europe competition next season if can't reach final and become the champion on UEFA Europe League in this season, finish 10th not any chance can play on europe league or EFA Europa Conference League next season.
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April 19, 2022, 04:13:10 AM
But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.
Just like you, I think frankfurt can be the favorite to win the european league this season, facing a team that has a collectivity like barcelona is not an easy job, apart from the right strategy of course it takes a strong mentality to face a team like barcelona, ​​and I think frankfurt have this then they can beat barcelona which is the favorite champions, even though frankfurt is not playing well in the league but I think they will show all their strength in the semifinals of the european league later,  because indeed the european league is the only way for them to play in the champions league Next season.
My prediction Frankfurt maybe win with score 1-2 on westham in first leg.
The victory from Barcelona became an encouragement for the Frankfurt team to silence their opponents in the next match. westham also has a pretty good trend in the european league, these two teams have the same motivation from the previous win, it seems I will choose a draw in the first meeting.

This match will be very competitive. West Ham may be doing well in the Europa League. But after the win against Barcelona, ​​the players of Frankfurt will be more confident. And with that confidence, maybe Frankfurt will be able to perform well against West Ham and win. However, the first leg is an away match for Frankfurt. Since Frankfurt has been able to play well at Camp Nou against Barcelona. So I think they will be able to play well against West Ham even if it is an away match.

I agree with you’ll that Frankfurt will be high on confidence, but I’ll yet back West Ham to win and qualify for the finals because they have shown decent form in this tournament. Furthermore Moyes has single handedly transformed this team, and I have seen them play remarkably well in the premier league, hence I’m confident that they’ll storm in the finals and lift the cup.
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April 19, 2022, 04:07:40 AM
Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.
Indeed moyes did a good job at westham this season, apart from being able to make westham compete for the top 4 in the league, westham is now also one of the title challenger clubs in the european league, but even so you can't underestimate the other 3 teams, leipzig, lyon and frankfurt has the same opportunity to end the competition by winning a trophy, seeing frankfurt's ability to stop barcelona in the semifinals made me make frankfurt the favorite this season.
I think West Ham United favorite can reach until final stage on UEFA Europe League although Frankfurt success eliminated Barcelona on quarte final I think West Ham United have different games play, counter attack as style of primer league team will make Bundesliga team face difficult how to stop West Ham United. I think  West Ham have chance for first time can play on Europe League final and still ability with winner and got champion league spot next season.

It's possible that West Ham will qualify for the final, I don't see Frankfurt as better than West Ham. Not a guarantee that Frankfurt managed
to get rid of Barcelona to become an unbeaten team, even in the Bundesliga, Frankfurt's performance was very disappointing, in the last 5
matches Frankfurt was only able to win once. At least West Ham's performance is a little better when playing in the Premier League,
and also the level of competition in the Premier League is indeed better than the Bundesliga.

That's why I favor West Ham to qualify for the final, while West Ham's opportunity to win the Europa League trophy is quite open.
Because West Ham's opponent in the final is likely to be Leipzig, which does have almost the same quality as West Ham. But because Leipzig is
in 3rd position in the Bundesliga, this makes it very likely that Leipzig will play in the Champions League next season. While West Ham are
in 7th position in the Premier League, so to be in the top 4 has a very small chance. That's why West Ham should be more motivated to win
the Europa League trophy, because the winner of the Europa League trophy will get a Champions League ticket. So my prediction is that West Ham
will focus more on playing in the Europa League than the Premier League, and hopefully West Ham can win the Europa League trophy.
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April 19, 2022, 03:01:18 AM
But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.
Just like you, I think frankfurt can be the favorite to win the european league this season, facing a team that has a collectivity like barcelona is not an easy job, apart from the right strategy of course it takes a strong mentality to face a team like barcelona, ​​and I think frankfurt have this then they can beat barcelona which is the favorite champions, even though frankfurt is not playing well in the league but I think they will show all their strength in the semifinals of the european league later,  because indeed the european league is the only way for them to play in the champions league Next season.
My prediction Frankfurt maybe win with score 1-2 on westham in first leg.
The victory from Barcelona became an encouragement for the Frankfurt team to silence their opponents in the next match. westham also has a pretty good trend in the european league, these two teams have the same motivation from the previous win, it seems I will choose a draw in the first meeting.

This match will be very competitive. West Ham may be doing well in the Europa League. But after the win against Barcelona, ​​the players of Frankfurt will be more confident. And with that confidence, maybe Frankfurt will be able to perform well against West Ham and win. However, the first leg is an away match for Frankfurt. Since Frankfurt has been able to play well at Camp Nou against Barcelona. So I think they will be able to play well against West Ham even if it is an away match.
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April 19, 2022, 01:51:58 AM
Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.
Indeed moyes did a good job at westham this season, apart from being able to make westham compete for the top 4 in the league, westham is now also one of the title challenger clubs in the european league, but even so you can't underestimate the other 3 teams, leipzig, lyon and frankfurt has the same opportunity to end the competition by winning a trophy, seeing frankfurt's ability to stop barcelona in the semifinals made me make frankfurt the favorite this season.
I think West Ham United favorite can reach until final stage on UEFA Europe League although Frankfurt success eliminated Barcelona on quarte final I think West Ham United have different games play, counter attack as style of primer league team will make Bundesliga team face difficult how to stop West Ham United. I think  West Ham have chance for first time can play on Europe League final and still ability with winner and got champion league spot next season.
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April 18, 2022, 06:15:48 PM
The Europe League event has entered the semifinals 4 teams will compete for tickets to the final round where the 4 teams are Glasgow Rangers West Ham United RB Leipzig and also Entra Frankfurt, from the four teams it is very difficult to predict who will be the champion at the end of the season. later considering they will kill each other in the semifinals this will be a very interesting match but I prefer RB leipzig and also west ham united who will qualify for the final round next may
After Eintracht Frankfurt eliminated FC Barcelona that stood a better chance in winning the game, they've come to be my best team or the most qualified to lift that trophy. Its interesting to see diverse leagues still represented; Scottish,  Bundesliga, Serie A and EPL and of cause, the game has still got a lot of threat in the likes of West Ham United and Leipzig, against Eintracht Frankfurt. I don't really consider Glasgow Rangers to be much of a threat and as such, it would be a surprise for me to see them in the ffinals.

My best pick for the finals would have been West Ham United  vs Eintracht Frankfurt but, its a final that came too early as one have got to eliminate the other in this round to go to the finals and as such, I would be predicting an RB Leipzig vs Eintracht Frankfurt in the finals.
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April 18, 2022, 06:15:14 PM
But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.
Just like you, I think frankfurt can be the favorite to win the european league this season, facing a team that has a collectivity like barcelona is not an easy job, apart from the right strategy of course it takes a strong mentality to face a team like barcelona, ​​and I think frankfurt have this then they can beat barcelona which is the favorite champions, even though frankfurt is not playing well in the league but I think they will show all their strength in the semifinals of the european league later,  because indeed the european league is the only way for them to play in the champions league Next season.
My prediction Frankfurt maybe win with score 1-2 on westham in first leg.
Frankfurt in general is the most unpredictable team remaining in the Europa League, because first of all to beat Barcelona, and then also to concede to the Bundesliga Union, this is the whole Eintracht. Therefore, I would not risk calling Eintracht the favorite of the current Europa League draw, but I would not be too surprised if the club managed to do it. Moreover, West Ham is not seen as an impassable opponent and Eintracht also has excellent chances of reaching the final. As usual, everyone can decide certain nuances such as who will win the first match, with what score, what tactics the opponents will choose. Still, let's not forget that Barcelona was beaten by a counterattacking game with quick transitions to attack for a few passes, but how will it all look with West Ham.
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April 18, 2022, 05:15:05 PM
Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.


The Europe League event has entered the semifinals 4 teams will compete for tickets to the final round where the 4 teams are Glasgow Rangers West Ham United RB Leipzig and also Entra Frankfurt, from the four teams it is very difficult to predict who will be the champion at the end of the season. later considering they will kill each other in the semifinals this will be a very interesting match but I prefer RB leipzig and also west ham united who will qualify for the final round next may
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April 18, 2022, 02:30:44 PM
But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.

Just like you, I think frankfurt can be the favorite to win the european league this season, facing a team that has a collectivity like barcelona is not an easy job, apart from the right strategy of course it takes a strong mentality to face a team like barcelona, ​​and I think frankfurt have this then they can beat barcelona which is the favorite champions, even though frankfurt is not playing well in the league but I think they will show all their strength in the semifinals of the european league later,  because indeed the european league is the only way for them to play in the champions league Next season.
My prediction Frankfurt maybe win with score 1-2 on westham in first leg.
The victory from Barcelona became an encouragement for the Frankfurt team to silence their opponents in the next match. westham also has a pretty good trend in the european league, these two teams have the same motivation from the previous win, it seems I will choose a draw in the first meeting.
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April 18, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals. 

Leipzig definitely has the strongest squad of all the teams that are remaining in the Europa League. If Leipzig would not have had such a bad first half of a season in the Bundesliga which also made them fire their coach and hire Tedesco instead, then i also think that Leipzig woudl have had a good chance of fighting for the Bundesliga title this year because Bayern is not performing well this year.
As others already said though, Eintracht Frankfurt is able to beat any team if they are having a good day which they just proved againts the huge favorite FC Barcelona and Westham United also has good players as they are a english club and therefore also benefiting from the big TV money in England.

I'm afraid you haven't fully thought through what you wrote in this comment. Of course, you can speculate what would have happened if someone had played differently at the beginning of the season, but following this path, you can write this about each team.
When it comes to Leipzig vs Bayern this season it looks like this:
09/11/2021 Leipzig 1 - 4 Bayern
02/05/2022 Leipzig 2 - 3 Bayern
It seems to me that it is far enough from Leipzig to be called the strongest team.
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April 18, 2022, 02:08:01 PM
But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.

Just like you, I think frankfurt can be the favorite to win the european league this season, facing a team that has a collectivity like barcelona is not an easy job, apart from the right strategy of course it takes a strong mentality to face a team like barcelona, ​​and I think frankfurt have this then they can beat barcelona which is the favorite champions, even though frankfurt is not playing well in the league but I think they will show all their strength in the semifinals of the european league later,  because indeed the european league is the only way for them to play in the champions league Next season.
My prediction Frankfurt maybe win with score 1-2 on westham in first leg.
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April 18, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Unfortunately Barcelona didn’t qualify next round. Frankfurt did well their job as well.Frankfurt well played against Barcelona. But is more Strong team than Frankfurt. Xavi doing very well with Barcelona but he didn’t do it that time.Bad luck for Barcelona and Barcelona fans are very disappointed with their  performance. I hope Barcelona will be back again their prime time in next season.
Barcelona have bad performance against with Frankfurt on second leg and actually Xavi made mistake with several starting eleven player against with Frankfurt and have defeated on home match. I watch 90 minutes games play between Barcelona vs Frankfurt although with dominance on ball possession but Frankfurt most effective when counter attack, faster and make left and right side from Barcelona player easy for getting space before three goals scored, I was disappointed with Barcelona actually on early minutes not aggressive and play well when several minutes left.
There were several Barcelona players who did bad quite in that match, one of which was Aubameyang who failed to take advantage of several golden opportunities to score goals and also besides Aubameyang, Erick Garcia was also unable to intercept well and in the end resulted in a foul that resulted in a penalty, however despite all the bad results that barcelona got, I think xavi has done a good job and they were just unlucky to get through to the semifinals.

To be honest I think this Barcelona team is not so accustomed to pressure as the previous Barcelona team was. And the pressure of winning the Europa League title actually got to them.

I agreed that a lot of Barcelona players made mistakes in that match but I also think that the opponent did really well to win against Barcelona. The penalty was not it result of dumb luck.
I think the opponent saw that in the last match Barcelona did not defend well in the six-yard box and that's why they pressured in that area so that they can make something out of it.
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April 18, 2022, 12:06:40 PM
Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.
Indeed moyes did a good job at westham this season, apart from being able to make westham compete for the top 4 in the league, westham is now also one of the title challenger clubs in the european league, but even so you can't underestimate the other 3 teams, leipzig, lyon and frankfurt has the same opportunity to end the competition by winning a trophy, seeing frankfurt's ability to stop barcelona in the semifinals made me make frankfurt the favorite this season.
Defeating Frankfurt is all it will cost David Moyes. Frankfurt is the only treat because between lipzig and  Rangers one will qualify and none of this two team will be as stressful as Frankfurt and unfortunately West ham have to play them in the semi finals. Moyes and his boys has lots of home work to do
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April 18, 2022, 11:45:02 AM
Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.
Indeed moyes did a good job at westham this season, apart from being able to make westham compete for the top 4 in the league, westham is now also one of the title challenger clubs in the european league, but even so you can't underestimate the other 3 teams, leipzig, lyon and frankfurt has the same opportunity to end the competition by winning a trophy, seeing frankfurt's ability to stop barcelona in the semifinals made me make frankfurt the favorite this season.
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