UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 56.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 17, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

In the semi finals, West Ham are going to take on Frankfurt and it can be a really interesting matchup too. Frankfurt would have a quite improved self-confidence after eliminating Barcelona in last round. I don't expect them to give up easily against West Ham too. But this can be a really competitive one as West Ham are very determined to move on. I will be seeing West Ham as one step ahead in this.

Indeed, Frankfurt performance in Europa League have been impressive. But, I don't think they will be able to handle West Ham in the Semi-finals first leg. Moreover, the game will be played at London Stadium, and that will surely boost West Ham morale. Although, Frankfurt fought really hard to get to the Semi-finals, and won't easily bow to West Ham. Therefore, the game will be quite tough and interesting. However, West Ham focus this season are mainly on winning the Europa League trophy.

In fact, if we look at the teams that are currently in the semi-finals of the European league, the main goal of all of them is primarily to win the European league cup. Rangers are 6 points behind Celtic. Moreover, they beat Celtic 2-1 in the last match. They are in form and one of the strong candidates for the Final. Leipzig and Frankfurt are the teams that do not have a championship claim. The same can be said for West Ham United. I don't know which team will win, but all four teams deserved it.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on April 18, 2022, 11:24:33 AM

Leipzig definitely has the strongest squad of all the teams that are remaining in the Europa League. If Leipzig would not have had such a bad first half of a season in the Bundesliga which also made them fire their coach and hire Tedesco instead, then i also think that Leipzig woudl have had a good chance of fighting for the Bundesliga title this year because Bayern is not performing well this year.
As others already said though, Eintracht Frankfurt is able to beat any team if they are having a good day which they just proved againts the huge favorite FC Barcelona and Westham United also has good players as they are a english club and therefore also benefiting from the big TV money in England.

This sounds like unscience fiction Wink

And by the way, this is not true. At the moment, Bayern scored 80% of all possible points. This is the best indicator among all the top championships. Even PSG and City have a smaller percentage. To achieve this level of efficiency, Leipzig must fall asleep and have a good dream

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Quote from: Mauser on April 18, 2022, 08:41:54 AM

Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals.

Leipzig definitely has the strongest squad of all the teams that are remaining in the Europa League. If Leipzig would not have had such a bad first half of a season in the Bundesliga which also made them fire their coach and hire Tedesco instead, then i also think that Leipzig woudl have had a good chance of fighting for the Bundesliga title this year because Bayern is not performing well this year.
As others already said though, Eintracht Frankfurt is able to beat any team if they are having a good day which they just proved againts the huge favorite FC Barcelona and Westham United also has good players as they are a english club and therefore also benefiting from the big TV money in England.

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Left in the Europa league competition are Rangers West Ham and two German side's Liepzig and Frankfurt.
Possiblity of David Moyes and he's men carrying the competition is more likely for me than any other club.
They played very well again Lyon of France.

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Quote from: coco23 on April 18, 2022, 10:50:56 AM

Quote from: Mauser on April 18, 2022, 08:41:54 AM

Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals.

2.1 for Leipzig is not so high indeed. Much can go wrong for them, especially in this stage of the tournament. They have the strongest team to be sure, but we saw in the Frankfurt vs Barcdelona game how long (or short Cheesy

) the strongest team sometimes lasts in the knockout stage. ON the other hand, I don't think Frankfurt would stand a chance again Leipzig in the finals. It somehow is always different when teams from the same country play against each other.

RB Leipzig has played really well and certainly impressed a lot of people this season. They are actually capable of winning the Europa League in my opinion also. But then again if Barcelona was still there in the competition of the Europa league I think this would have been different but right now they seem to be favorites.

But, I think we also have to remember that the team which beat Barcelona also has a great chance of winning because obviously, they beat a team like Barcelona when Barcelona was in almost a perfect run of form.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 17, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

In the semi finals, West Ham are going to take on Frankfurt and it can be a really interesting matchup too. Frankfurt would have a quite improved self-confidence after eliminating Barcelona in last round. I don't expect them to give up easily against West Ham too. But this can be a really competitive one as West Ham are very determined to move on. I will be seeing West Ham as one step ahead in this.

Indeed, Frankfurt performance in Europa League have been impressive. But, I don't think they will be able to handle West Ham in the Semi-finals first leg. Moreover, the game will be played at London Stadium, and that will surely boost West Ham morale. Although, Frankfurt fought really hard to get to the Semi-finals, and won't easily bow to West Ham. Therefore, the game will be quite tough and interesting. However, West Ham focus this season are mainly on winning the Europa League trophy.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 18, 2022, 08:41:54 AM

Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals.

2.1 for Leipzig is not so high indeed. Much can go wrong for them, especially in this stage of the tournament. They have the strongest team to be sure, but we saw in the Frankfurt vs Barcdelona game how long (or short Cheesy

) the strongest team sometimes lasts in the knockout stage. ON the other hand, I don't think Frankfurt would stand a chance again Leipzig in the finals. It somehow is always different when teams from the same country play against each other.

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Quote from: Jasad on April 18, 2022, 03:49:29 AM

Quote from: Mamun74 on April 18, 2022, 12:57:55 AM

Unfortunately Barcelona didn’t qualify next round. Frankfurt did well their job as well.Frankfurt well played against Barcelona. But is more Strong team than Frankfurt. Xavi doing very well with Barcelona but he didn’t do it that time.Bad luck for Barcelona and Barcelona fans are very disappointed with their performance. I hope Barcelona will be back again their prime time in next season.

Barcelona have bad performance against with Frankfurt on second leg and actually Xavi made mistake with several starting eleven player against with Frankfurt and have defeated on home match. I watch 90 minutes games play between Barcelona vs Frankfurt although with dominance on ball possession but Frankfurt most effective when counter attack, faster and make left and right side from Barcelona player easy for getting space before three goals scored, I was disappointed with Barcelona actually on early minutes not aggressive and play well when several minutes left.

There were several Barcelona players who did bad quite in that match, one of which was Aubameyang who failed to take advantage of several golden opportunities to score goals and also besides Aubameyang, Erick Garcia was also unable to intercept well and in the end resulted in a foul that resulted in a penalty, however despite all the bad results that barcelona got, I think xavi has done a good job and they were just unlucky to get through to the semifinals.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 17, 2022, 11:42:22 AM

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So far I can't guess who deserves to win the Europa League because the chances are the same.

It is so difficult to choose between them, all of the teams are evenly matched, well that is going to make things a whole lot interesting. I would personally be rooting for West Ham to go all the way and win the trophy, i like the way they play and have gone about their business, not just in the Europa League, but also in the EPL, thus i think they deserve to finish the season with 'something', and maybe that might just be the Europa League trophy, who knows.

Having said that, if West Ham do win it, it is going to be absolutely huge for their club, they will be winning a trophy that will mean they will play in the CL next season, their fans will be beside themselves if this does happen. Fingers crossed till the very end anyway.

My favourite from day one is west ham, they really deserve something from this season,they have been consistent even last season the they fought till the last day for Fourth position even topping Leicester city, Tottenham Hotspur and arsenal in the league table, when Barcelona was drop to the Europa League I was thinking this is bad news for them but Barcelona are out now so I see them as the favourite,they will win Frankfurt in the semis, winning Lyon 3 nil is a enough evidence that they will see out Frankfurt. And rangers are not push aside team just because they are playing a German team that is not reliable.

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it's true, it doesn't mean a club that doesn't get a trophy this season has no income. Barcelona is a great team they have only been on the decline this season and it was only a short time at the start of the season before Xavi finally came with many positive changes. The progress and setbacks of a football club's achievements are natural but how do they respond to it to be able to get up quickly and Barcelona have done their best to get back to the quality of their best team.

Good results have clearly been seen at Barcelona this season even though they have lost in the European Champions League and also can't necessarily win in their own league this season and I think it's true that it is a very natural thing to struggle in every game, so it is not a problem as long as Barcelona is still able to fight to be better next season.

In football, small mistakes can be fatal. Just look at the fate of Barcelona now, after being eliminated from the Europa League they are threatened not to get a title this season. After showing a slick performance under the direction of Xavi, the Spanish representative became the favorite in the Europa League, due to a mistake made at Camp Nou, Frankfurt humiliated Barcelona in front of their own supporters. It's hard to say who will win the Europa League, because the four teams that qualify for the semifinals are teams that are not superior in this competition.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 17, 2022, 04:53:51 PM

This season is going to end without any trophy is not good for them but still this transition is good and for their long run success the best thing happened to them, they settle things very quickly and positively as many big clubs in Europe are feeling big troubles even they are much better in finances and having some good resources but fail which is big question mark for them but here Barcelona is amazingly fights back.

Yeah, I really think the hyperbole surrounding their recent run is unwarranted. Anyone who's bothered to take a look at them this season could see a team that you could not expect to win a single trophy, no, not even Europa. Losing your best players is one thing, losing their influence and their goals is another.

This was always going to be a season for stabilisation and a START to the rebuild -- you can't run your young ones into the ground piling on unrealistic expectations while debtors breathe down your neck.

So far as stable and rebuild, I think they're well on their way.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 18, 2022, 08:41:54 AM

Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals.

It looks like Rangers here will be considered underdogs because the three teams above look very strong, although previously Frankfurt was the same but because Frankfurt can get rid of Barcelona then this competition will be difficult to predict. Because previously, if Barcelona could qualify then of course Barcelona would be a strong candidate for the title winner but unfortunately, that scenario didn't work. Until finally these three teams have a good chance to win the title, but for me the order is West Ham, Leipzig, Frankfurt and finally Rangers.

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Looking at the odds today it looks like RB Leipzig is the clear favourite to win the Europa League this year. Not sure if I would place my money on only 2.1 for RB Leipzig to be the champion. Don't get me wrong, they have a strong team and played well this season, but both West Ham United and Eintrach Frankfurt are playing really well this season too. The both faced some hard opponents to reach semi finals and should be strongly motivated to reach the finalls. RB Leipzig definitely has the weaker opponent with Rangers, it seems almost guaranteed that they will reach the finals. As for the second match it will be very interesting. West Ham United seems to be clear the favourite, and so was Barcelona. I wouldn't bet on that match either way. My first bet will be RB Leipzig reaching the finals, and then I will use that money to bet on the winner of Eintrach Frankfurt - West Ham United to win against Leipzig in the finals.

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Earnings from marketing are perhaps even more important, and that includes TV rights, selling stadium names, advertising on player equipment etc.
Just to get an idea, here's the news on how much Barcelona will earn from a new sponsorship deal with music streaming giant Spotify:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomsanderson/2022/03/15/fc-barcelona-announce-spotify-sponorship-deal/?sh=561cdd513312

Barcelona has financial problems but we all know that.
Much more important, however, is the club's reputation and the interest of sponsors, which is still very high.
Xavi has stabilized the team, finances are improving, the club still has very talented players and there is no need to worry about the future of the club.
Barcelona played a very bad match with Frankfurt in a strange atmosphere where at their own stadium their fans were in the minority, which affected the players.
Next season it will be a completely different story, and Barcelona will once again fight for all the trophies, including the Champions League trophy.

Why are you trying to downplay the loss in the CL and UL? A successful club logically generates more profits in all sections, including marketing, than an unsuccessful club. Therefore, not only are the profits lost through the UL, but in general the income will be reduced.

Of course, deals like Spotify are great, but that doesn't change the points witch I already explained.

I don’t think I’m downplaying Barcelona’s financial problems.
I clearly wrote that Barcelona has serious financial problems, but I also explained why I think these problems will be solved soon.
Barcelona have lost a lot with the departure of Messi and relegation from the Champions League this season, but these are only short-term problems.
Every serious club or organization has a long-term strategy of development and financing, and Barcelona is no exception.
I expect Barcelona to stabilize financially in the next 5 years, and Xavi have already revived them on the field in the second half of this season.
The Champions League is important in terms of marketing and finances, but Barcelona will make up for it through business agreements with Spotify and with other marketing projects.
On the other hand, even relegation from the European League will not hurt Barcelona too much, because this competition is already less financially viable for BAcelona from the Champions League.

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Quote from: Jasad on April 18, 2022, 03:49:29 AM

Barcelona have bad performance against with Frankfurt on second leg and actually Xavi made mistake with several starting eleven player against with Frankfurt and have defeated on home match. I watch 90 minutes games play between Barcelona vs Frankfurt although with dominance on ball possession but Frankfurt most effective when counter attack, faster and make left and right side from Barcelona player easy for getting space before three goals scored, I was disappointed with Barcelona actually on early minutes not aggressive and play well when several minutes left.

As I mentioned earlier, I wasn't surprised that Barcelona lost the tie.

They are much more focused on the Spanish league - La Liga. Of course they would try to make a good impression, and go as far as possible in the Europa League, but I always thought they weren't capable of reaching the final. That's because it's very rare for these very big teams to reach the Europa League final. It's not exciting enough for them.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on April 18, 2022, 12:57:55 AM

Unfortunately Barcelona didn’t qualify next round. Frankfurt did well their job as well.Frankfurt well played against Barcelona. But is more Strong team than Frankfurt. Xavi doing very well with Barcelona but he didn’t do it that time.Bad luck for Barcelona and Barcelona fans are very disappointed with their performance. I hope Barcelona will be back again their prime time in next season.

Barcelona have bad performance against with Frankfurt on second leg and actually Xavi made mistake with several starting eleven player against with Frankfurt and have defeated on home match. I watch 90 minutes games play between Barcelona vs Frankfurt although with dominance on ball possession but Frankfurt most effective when counter attack, faster and make left and right side from Barcelona player easy for getting space before three goals scored, I was disappointed with Barcelona actually on early minutes not aggressive and play well when several minutes left.

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With their current achievements they are actually still quite good now when compared to their performance at the beginning of the season clearly their performance is very much different.
Now they are in transition and indeed they won't be able to get a trophy for this season but it won't be too much of a problem as Xavi is still under development to coach Barcelona at the moment

Yes, I see it that way too, because in general Barcelona are starting to look competitive again in every game this season and it shows that a coach like Xavi is someone who is very serious about developing a football team like Barcelona.
So as long as they all still try and try to improve in the following seasons, then one of the trophies in a certain League will definitely be won by Barcelona again.

Unfortunately Barcelona didn’t qualify next round. Frankfurt did well their job as well.Frankfurt well played against Barcelona. But is more Strong team than Frankfurt. Xavi doing very well with Barcelona but he didn’t do it that time.Bad luck for Barcelona and Barcelona fans are very disappointed with their performance. I hope Barcelona will be back again their prime time in next season.

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Quote from: herurist on April 17, 2022, 02:29:32 PM

With their current achievements they are actually still quite good now when compared to their performance at the beginning of the season clearly their performance is very much different.
Now they are in transition and indeed they won't be able to get a trophy for this season but it won't be too much of a problem as Xavi is still under development to coach Barcelona at the moment

Yes, I see it that way too, because in general Barcelona are starting to look competitive again in every game this season and it shows that a coach like Xavi is someone who is very serious about developing a football team like Barcelona.
So as long as they all still try and try to improve in the following seasons, then one of the trophies in a certain League will definitely be won by Barcelona again.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 17, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

In the semi finals, West Ham are going to take on Frankfurt and it can be a really interesting matchup too. Frankfurt would have a quite improved self-confidence after eliminating Barcelona in last round. I don't expect them to give up easily against West Ham too. But this can be a really competitive one as West Ham are very determined to move on. I will be seeing West Ham as one step ahead in this.

same, I think West Ham are just better this season in general competing against Arsenal and Man utd for the 6th place, also Frankfurt lost in Bundesliga today 2-0, they're not that good, we can't judge them based on just one match or two, I can definitely see West Ham in the final.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 17, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

In the semi finals, West Ham are going to take on Frankfurt and it can be a really interesting matchup too. Frankfurt would have a quite improved self-confidence after eliminating Barcelona in last round. I don't expect them to give up easily against West Ham too. But this can be a really competitive one as West Ham are very determined to move on. I will be seeing West Ham as one step ahead in this.

I believe it will be a fiercely contested tie, and with away goals irrelevant, it will be a game that WestHam relishes; WestHam defending is quite good, as they are selfish when it comes to conceding goals especially in the europa league, I think WestHam has the edge, scores, prevent opponents from scoring and very compact in defending. Cant wait for the semi final tie

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