UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 54.

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 20, 2022, 03:46:35 PM

What new in football? When is Westham and Frankfurt competing?
I just read the news and watch the highlight because we don't have any channel which telecast the match here. Anyone who can update?

If for the issue of the West Ham United VS Frankfurt schedule, you can do a google search, but this time I will also tell you exactly where the second match will take place on 29 April 2022 in the morning.
So you still have to be patient to wait for the match to come and hopefully it will be more exciting this time because the average club left now is a mid-table club in their respective league.

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Everyone is talking about Westham and Frankfurt, but no one is talking about lepzing vs. Rangers, it's true that the English team is a club that can bring in a lot of star players, because they have more finances than other European clubs, but now lepzing's performance is more promising in their domestic league, lepzing is able to beat union Berlin, and dourtmoud, hopefully lepzing can step into the European cup final, and manage to get a prestigious trophy.

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I think another reason why everyone has been talking about the English Premier League is that the bigger transaction of money has brought in better players in almost every team in the English Premier League. And that's why the league has become a lot more competitive than it was before in my opinion.

Previously a lot of people have been just following only great teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Liverpool Manchester City, etc. But now almost all the team in the English Premier League has the capability of playing really well and the fan following is also becoming larger day by day.

Primer League spent a lot of much money for getting transfer players and actually I think have different transfer market values between Primer League and Bundesliga more than 40%. I see West Ham United player transfer value most expensive than Frankfurt player, but that can be guarantee with West Ham United easy for defeating Frankfurt on first leg. Have dominance on quarter final when defeating Barcelona could be some thing important for West Ham United never take easy with Frankfurt on UEFA Europe League semifinal.

In this era, money is not always a guarantee for success, there have been many cases where mediocre teams beat their favorite teams. This case at least proves that the team with the larger transfer value still doesn't guarantee to win the match, if the team with the bigger transfer value guarantees the win then football will not be as interesting as it is today. Basically West Ham have a chance to qualify and win it's not about the high transfer value, in fact West Ham is a team that is currently also growing and looks stronger because it is used to more competitive competition in the EPL.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 20, 2022, 01:50:45 PM

I think another reason why everyone has been talking about the English Premier League is that the bigger transaction of money has brought in better players in almost every team in the English Premier League. And that's why the league has become a lot more competitive than it was before in my opinion.

Previously a lot of people have been just following only great teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Liverpool Manchester City, etc. But now almost all the team in the English Premier League has the capability of playing really well and the fan following is also becoming larger day by day.

Primer League spent a lot of much money for getting transfer players and actually I think have different transfer market values between Primer League and Bundesliga more than 40%. I see West Ham United player transfer value most expensive than Frankfurt player, but that can be guarantee with West Ham United easy for defeating Frankfurt on first leg. Have dominance on quarter final when defeating Barcelona could be some thing important for West Ham United never take easy with Frankfurt on UEFA Europe League semifinal.

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 20, 2022, 03:46:35 PM

What new in football? When is Westham and Frankfurt competing?
I just read the news and watch the highlight because we don't have any channel which telecast the match here. Anyone who can update?

First leg: West Ham vs Frankfurt on 29 April
First leg: Leipzig vs Rangers on 29 April
Second leg: West Ham vs Frankfurt on 5 May
Second leg: Leipzig vs Rangers on 5 May

Quote from: asus09 on April 20, 2022, 01:56:13 PM

Westham vs Frankfurt are two teams that are not leading but made it through to the semifinals, a really great achievement shown by both teams, but honestly I am more interested in betting on Westham's win, even though Frankfurt managed to make a surprise, by beating the giants Spain, but my instincts still say Westham deserved to be in the final, even though Westham couldn't dominate the game, like against Lyon in the quarter-finals, but Westham dared to shoot on goal, from outside the penalty box, that's what I like about Westham's style of play, I would definitely bet on Westham's win.

Yep both were an underdog team, it's very surprising. Lyon wasn't a easy team to beat, they have a good striker, but West Ham can play defensive very well. I believe when they're met, West Ham would more dominating the ball possession because I don't see Frankfurt is play dominate even against lower team. I see West Ham more likely win too, they're shoots less than Lyon, but they can manage 3 goals.

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Quote from: asus09 on April 20, 2022, 01:56:13 PM

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The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

Westham vs Frankfurt are two teams that are not leading but made it through to the semifinals, a really great achievement shown by both teams, but honestly I am more interested in betting on Westham's win, even though Frankfurt managed to make a surprise, by beating the giants Spain, but my instincts still say Westham deserved to be in the final, even though Westham couldn't dominate the game, like against Lyon in the quarter-finals, but Westham dared to shoot on goal, from outside the penalty box, that's what I like about Westham's style of play, I would definitely bet on Westham's win.

If they made it to the semi-finals, that means something. Yes, the Germans beat Barcelona, a strong team. But if you compare the Hammers and Lyon, the so-called proportions of strength would be the same, meaning their match was equal in strength to Barcelona's match with the Germans. So the semi-final match will be very interesting, I would rather see Westham win

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Quote from: asus09 on April 20, 2022, 01:56:13 PM

Westham vs Frankfurt are two teams that are not leading but made it through to the semifinals, a really great achievement shown by both teams, but honestly I am more interested in betting on Westham's win, even though Frankfurt managed to make a surprise, by beating the giants Spain, but my instincts still say Westham deserved to be in the final, even though Westham couldn't dominate the game, like against Lyon in the quarter-finals, but Westham dared to shoot on goal, from outside the penalty box, that's what I like about Westham's style of play, I would definitely bet on Westham's win.

What new in football? When is Westham and Frankfurt competing?
I just read the news and watch the highlight because we don't have any channel which telecast the match here. Anyone who can update?

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Quote from: Despairo on April 20, 2022, 04:14:14 AM

Quote from: CryptoBuds on April 20, 2022, 03:30:17 AM

The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

Westham vs Frankfurt are two teams that are not leading but made it through to the semifinals, a really great achievement shown by both teams, but honestly I am more interested in betting on Westham's win, even though Frankfurt managed to make a surprise, by beating the giants Spain, but my instincts still say Westham deserved to be in the final, even though Westham couldn't dominate the game, like against Lyon in the quarter-finals, but Westham dared to shoot on goal, from outside the penalty box, that's what I like about Westham's style of play, I would definitely bet on Westham's win.

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The thing is we cannot underestimate Frankfurt because they beat the best team in the Europa league which is Barcelona to get here. I know that Westham is a great team and they also face better competition in the English Premier League. and I honestly think they might be able to win this match but I start to have my doubts when I think that Frankfurt beat Barcelona in their previous match in Europa League. they were a little lucky but they did win.

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Quote from: DU18 on April 19, 2022, 10:36:10 AM

Indeed Westham game really reflects most of the English Premier League teams that are aggressive in attacking, but I think the pattern of Westham and Frankfurt's game doesn't look much different, if you watch the match against Barcelona in the last quarter-finals, surely you know the advantages of the Frankfurt players with speed and also a solid defense, so I think both teams might have the same big chance to reach the finals later...

Yes, the both teams are very much evenly matched, and it is going to be extremely difficult to pick a winner. Both teams (West Ham & Frankfurt) would be looking at the possibility of going all the way to the trophy, which will guarantee them a ticket to next seasons Uefa Champions League, that is going to be huge for either of this clubs if they can achieve that, but first one has to eliminate the other and make it to the final.
My money is on West Ham by the way, i think they would just edge Franfurt by the tiniest of margins, i admire David Moyes so much as well as what he is doing with this team, he has turned them to winners, and they have been winning lots of games this season, if they can win the Europa League then that will be a perfect end to a great season for them.

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Stop comparing the teams of the other fourth league against the Premier Leagues one, because as you know the teams of Premier League have a lot of adavantage over the rest, they received so much money than the other and this can do you buy better and more players. But this never do they win in Europe a lot for example; the last team in the Premier League owns the same amount of money for TV rights than the 4 team in LaLiga this is demential.
Al so teams in championship (english 2 division) receive more money than the teams in other leagues.

I would say it is not always the same though. I mean premier league teams could be getting more money, but they are also being asked more money as well. Same level of player getting paid maybe like 3 million euro in France, asks for 10 million euro in UK because he knows that they can afford it.
This is why I believe that it is both a great deal for premier league teams to be paid that much but it is also a curse since players knows how much they could get paid there. All players would love to go to UK because they will be paid more there, and that understanding causes premier league teams to overpay for players and not get anyone "that" much better.

I'm with you in that statement, previously it was the Spanish and Italian leagues that paid very well, now things have changed, I don't know if it's because of the amount of money and that there are more fans for the Premier League, but now even in South America soccer fans are talking more about the Premier League than about any other league such as the Brazilian, Argentine, Colombian, I think that the more business models continue to be developed, the more attractive it will obviously be to everyone.

I think another reason why everyone has been talking about the English Premier League is that the bigger transaction of money has brought in better players in almost every team in the English Premier League. And that's why the league has become a lot more competitive than it was before in my opinion.

Previously a lot of people have been just following only great teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Liverpool Manchester City, etc. But now almost all the team in the English Premier League has the capability of playing really well and the fan following is also becoming larger day by day.

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Quote from: Despairo on April 20, 2022, 04:14:14 AM

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

This is a common statistic when one of the teams plays ball control (which by the way is an extremely defensive tactic if you think globally) and the second is waiting for its chance and disposes of the ball effectively. Under the leadership of Xavi, Barcelona are returning to the obsolete Tika-Taka and in the future such "unexpected" results will regularly upset its fans.

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Quote from: mia_houston on April 19, 2022, 01:55:37 PM

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What you say is true, a good performance from barcelona was not accompanied by a strong mentality to bear the pressure, especially when they found out that the camp nou stadium was filled with frankfurt supporters and it seemed as if they had played away twice when they saw the situation. I also did not expect if the performance and speed of the Frankfurt players were able to destroy the barcelona defense in that match, I thought after the defeat to frankfurt barcelona would be able to bounce back in the league, but in fact they are getting worse when they have to face a team that defends and has a better mentality in the league , defeats to frankfurt in the european league and also cadiz in the league made me start to think is it possible if xavi's magic has ended now?

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Actually, Frankfurt players did really well because they did their homework and they knew what they had to do to win this match. we can see absolutely different approaches from both the teams in that match because Barcelona played in their classic Tika Taka style and tried to keep possession of the ball.

On the other hand, Frankfurt tried to shoot if they had any kind of chance and also they realized that Barcelona was not strong while defending in the six yard box and their pressure in that area whenever they had the ball. And I of course do not agree that this match is going to be the end of the rising that Barcelona was in. I think we will see a lot more great football from them.

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Quote from: DU18 on April 19, 2022, 10:36:10 AM

Indeed Westham game really reflects most of the English Premier League teams that are aggressive in attacking, but I think the pattern of Westham and Frankfurt's game doesn't look much different, if you watch the match against Barcelona in the last quarter-finals, surely you know the advantages of the Frankfurt players with speed and also a solid defense, so I think both teams might have the same big chance to reach the finals later...

Yes, the both teams are very much evenly matched, and it is going to be extremely difficult to pick a winner. Both teams (West Ham & Frankfurt) would be looking at the possibility of going all the way to the trophy, which will guarantee them a ticket to next seasons Uefa Champions League, that is going to be huge for either of this clubs if they can achieve that, but first one has to eliminate the other and make it to the final.

My money is on West Ham by the way, i think they would just edge Franfurt by the tiniest of margins, i admire David Moyes so much as well as what he is doing with this team, he has turned them to winners, and they have been winning lots of games this season, if they can win the Europa League then that will be a perfect end to a great season for them.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 20, 2022, 07:03:52 AM

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The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

Barcelona played with their old tactics. They tried to keep the ball in their possession. On the other hand, Frankfurt's goal was to win. They could not hold the ball but attacked a lot. And they have been able to win the match because of a lot of attacks. Frankfurt's match strategy and performance were both very good.
You are right, in the last few matches we have not been getting the expected performance from Aubameyang. Barcelona needs one more experienced striker. Maybe Xavi will consider another striker next season.

Actually, the thing is Barcelona played really good football. How many of the people who actually saw that game can say, that the way Barcelona played was not beautiful?

The way Barcelona played was really beautiful and on the other hand, the way Frankfurt played the match was basically shoot if you have any chance at all. And that's really not a beautiful way to play football but I think that's not the argument here. If they win I think it doesn't matter how they win.

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Quote from: Despairo on April 20, 2022, 04:14:14 AM

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The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

Barcelona played with their old tactics. They tried to keep the ball in their possession. On the other hand, Frankfurt's goal was to win. They could not hold the ball but attacked a lot. And they have been able to win the match because of a lot of attacks. Frankfurt's match strategy and performance were both very good.
You are right, in the last few matches we have not been getting the expected performance from Aubameyang. Barcelona needs one more experienced striker. Maybe Xavi will consider another striker next season.

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Quote from: Despairo on April 20, 2022, 04:14:14 AM

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The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

Barcelona is a team that plays with the characteristic tiki-taka through possession of the ball that is so great that it is exploited by Frankfurt by playing fast and utilizing counter-attacks and this proved to be effective where Frankford managed to beat Barcelona, but this will be different because against what they will be fighting. face in the semifinals after west ham united which incidentally almost had the same game as Frankfurt where west ham united had a fast game and even they could defend and help attack at once then this would be a different match if Frankfurt against west ham united

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Quote from: Despairo on April 20, 2022, 04:14:14 AM

Quote from: CryptoBuds on April 20, 2022, 03:30:17 AM

The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

I personally don't think that reaching the semi-finals was easy although indeed, the surprise that Frankfurt made to knock out Barcelona was a big achievement. But even so, West Ham also went through it with a big effort and it started from the round of 16 which at that time West Ham must be able to comeback in the second leg against Sevilla. To be honest, Sevilla is also not an easy opponent and considering West Ham have a more competitive rivalry also in the local league, it makes West Ham feel like they have something better than Frankfurt. So for me, West Ham still has a higher chance of winning, but that doesn't mean I underestimate Frankfurt because after every game there will always be a team that wins and loses.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on April 20, 2022, 03:30:17 AM

The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

The interesting thing about Frankfurt is they're have lower ball possession, but they can shoots more than Barcelona. This mean Frankfurt is really objective and can look for an opportunity to counter attack, Barcelona only focus to attack but forgot to defend. However Aubameyang recently perform very bad unlike his perform on the previous month, he seems need to get substituted, I don't know why Xavi still let him to play.

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It's possible that West Ham will qualify for the final, I don't see Frankfurt as better than West Ham. Not a guarantee that Frankfurt managed
to get rid of Barcelona to become an unbeaten team, even in the Bundesliga, Frankfurt's performance was very disappointing, in the last 5
matches Frankfurt was only able to win once. At least West Ham's performance is a little better when playing in the Premier League,
and also the level of competition in the Premier League is indeed better than the Bundesliga.

West Ham United have good performance on domestic league than Frankfurt have been on 10th position standing than West Ham United keep consistent on 7th standing place, depending most competitive Primer League competition than Bundesliga. But couldn't be compare performance on domestic league because Frankfurt have ended chance can qualify for Europe competition next season if can't reach final and become the champion on UEFA Europe League in this season, finish 10th not any chance can play on europe league or EFA Europa Conference League next season.

All clubs have their own strategies now and even though Frankfurt are in the top 10 it doesn't mean they are bad, it's possible that they are focused here now and it's proven by them overthrowing a club that is predicted to be a champion and the club's performance is always being talked about everywhere. .
It will be good to see, Frankfurt's defense was solid against Barcelona and it is possible they will do the same now with the same strategy and tactics against Westham

The team that qualified for the semi-finals after beating Barcelona at the Camp Nou has no way of being described as weak. Frankfurt is definitely a strong team. Frankfurt's performance has been poor since the start of the Bundesliga. But they had a good enough performance in Europa Legue. Their goal is to win the title. And so it will not be an easy win for West Ham at all. Frankfurt will continue to make every effort to reach the final.

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Quote from: Jasad on April 19, 2022, 05:41:30 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on April 19, 2022, 04:07:40 AM

It's possible that West Ham will qualify for the final, I don't see Frankfurt as better than West Ham. Not a guarantee that Frankfurt managed
to get rid of Barcelona to become an unbeaten team, even in the Bundesliga, Frankfurt's performance was very disappointing, in the last 5
matches Frankfurt was only able to win once. At least West Ham's performance is a little better when playing in the Premier League,
and also the level of competition in the Premier League is indeed better than the Bundesliga.

West Ham United have good performance on domestic league than Frankfurt have been on 10th position standing than West Ham United keep consistent on 7th standing place, depending most competitive Primer League competition than Bundesliga. But couldn't be compare performance on domestic league because Frankfurt have ended chance can qualify for Europe competition next season if can't reach final and become the champion on UEFA Europe League in this season, finish 10th not any chance can play on europe league or EFA Europa Conference League next season.

All clubs have their own strategies now and even though Frankfurt are in the top 10 it doesn't mean they are bad, it's possible that they are focused here now and it's proven by them overthrowing a club that is predicted to be a champion and the club's performance is always being talked about everywhere. .
It will be good to see, Frankfurt's defense was solid against Barcelona and it is possible they will do the same now with the same strategy and tactics against Westham

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