UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread

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Quote from: krach on February 13, 2017, 11:04:50 AM

AS won 2 rounds, deal with it
winning doesnt have to look good

Ref in last fight was horrible for not taking a point away
UFC is not connected to the refs or judges

If you want to speculate about dirty and fixed fights watch KSK or Bellator main events.
The polish KSK makes the judges on this card look like the top MMA experts
Bellator Shamrock vs Kimbo , wtf was Shamrock doing, Shamrock vs Gracie, was that a kick in the balls?
Kimbo vs DADA , did the realy need to fight that many rounds?
We saw the last main event in Bellator, not as bad as the ones above but still does look a little strange.

The problem with Bellator is that they are booking old fighters and they are looking at the entertainment side of fighting as well as so is the reason we are seeing Kimbo v Dada who i think was one of the worst matches in the past ten year,i have seen worst fights in Pride and even recently Risin comes up with these sort of fights. If a promoter fixes the fight then it is end of their career as they will be getting a life long ban for that and will end in legal trouble .

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 12, 2017, 07:57:47 PM

How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.

If you are telling that the UFC fixed the match then you are wrong because if any promoter try to fix a match then he will land in jail and he will never have the opportunity to run the business,so UFC cannot determine who the winner is,the commission places the judges and they are the one who scores the fight and for me Anderson Silva won the fight even though it was a close fight.

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mostly when people lose the go to the dirty it must be fixed narrative.

AS won 2 rounds, deal with it
winning doesnt have to look good

Ref in last fight was horrible for not taking a point away

UFC is not connected to the refs or judges

If you want to speculate about dirty and fixed fights watch KSK or Bellator main events.
The polish KSK makes the judges on this card look like the top MMA experts
Bellator Shamrock vs Kimbo , wtf was Shamrock doing, Shamrock vs Gracie, was that a kick in the balls?
Kimbo vs DADA , did the realy need to fight that many rounds?
We saw the last main event in Bellator, not as bad as the ones above but still does look a little strange.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 12, 2017, 07:57:47 PM

How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.

You know, its more on business for them. They're really obvious. The way of commentors talk. They talk only about Silva. Now i know how dirty ufc is. Not only on Silva and Brunson. But also on Holms and De Randamie. This fight is really controversial fight. The referee is not good.

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Quote from: asdalani on February 12, 2017, 04:09:07 PM

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 12, 2017, 01:50:58 PM

Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.

The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.

I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc

Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...

The referrer was a disaster, this guy was out of his mind to not stop the damn fight after she punched Holms two times, the points should have been deducted from the match!

This guy should be fired. Rules are the same for men and women: don't hit each other after the damn bell, it doesn't take rocket science to know this.

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Quote from: krach on February 12, 2017, 09:07:35 AM

I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

I watched the fight again. You're right. But still very close. Leaning more towards a Silva win tho. I guess I was expecting more from him, being a legend and all. He's a bit slower now and I think his deterioration will come faster and faster as he approaches his mid 40's. Maybe some future bets against him might be good.

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How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.

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Quote from: asdalani on February 12, 2017, 04:09:07 PM

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.

I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc
Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...

I am not able to video as it is blocked in my area. The rules are same for men and women and if the referee did a good job he should have deducted a point for hitting the opponent for the second time after the bell. Anderson Silva was really enjoying his time inside the cage and he really performed well and i expected him to win and let him decide when he wants to retire.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on February 12, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

Quote from: pereira4 on February 12, 2017, 01:50:58 PM

Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.

The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.

I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc

Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 12, 2017, 01:50:58 PM

Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.

The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.

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Quote from: krach on February 12, 2017, 01:52:06 PM

I would watch out for calling things fixed fights
that leads down the road of blaming "fixed fights" for your lost bets

in any case we have to take into account NYC judges and refs the next time a fight happens there.

Yeah it's a dangerous thing but there is no other way to explain what happened with that referrer.

But then again, what necessity would the UFC have to make Silva and Holms lose? they are bigger names in the UFC that sell more, so I doubt if there was a fix the UFC was involved. Anyway this is just conspiracy so if anyone lost money better luck next time.

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I would watch out for calling things fixed fights
that leads down the road of blaming "fixed fights" for your lost bets

in any case we have to take into account NYC judges and refs the next time a fight happens there.

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Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.

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it doesn't look like its a close fight, seem a very fix fight. both fights deserves a rematch. i'm still not convince how it turned out but a lot of those who watch it closely are disappointed. dana is whore. i wonder whos in the 210 matches.

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So as predicted, we saw an Anderson Silva that is past his prime and won a very unclear fight, in my book he didn't won but whatever.

Germaine de Randamie had a good kick boxing as expected but she should have been disqualified by punching after the belt 2 fucking times, what a scam. Holly Holm had a great kick to the head and a couple of good punches. Holms deserved the win because of the good shots she had and the scam that was Germaine not getting a disqualified.

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Quote from: tokeweed on February 12, 2017, 09:27:24 AM

Quote from: krach on February 12, 2017, 09:07:35 AM

I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

It was def close. At one point I really was thinking he lost, then the ref raised his arm. Literally made me sigh in relief that one. I'm gonna have to watch that fight again without any anxiety and with a clear mind later.

Round 1 was his but after looking at round 2 I thought Anderson Silva had a huge task ahead of himself. I though Brunson had scored a lot more points that Silva by the end of round 3. Not really shocked by the final verdict but I think one can make a good case for Brunson for a win.

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Quote from: Yuhee on February 12, 2017, 09:24:59 AM

What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match.

It was not an Wwe event and knockouts are not only the interesting matches bro. As Krach said Miller vs Poirier was a good match as well as Souza vs Boetschm and Anderson Silva vs Brunson .

Quote from: krach on February 12, 2017, 09:07:35 AM

I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

It is a win for Anderson Silva without a doubt ,Brunson did not do anything of substance to score more points and the only shots he could do was in the clinch and Silva was not having any issues receiving those and he stuffed almost all of his take downs .The title fight was a bit disappointment as i think she should have reduced points for Randamie for hitting Holmes twice after the bell and if so the match would have being a draw.

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What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match. I would like to watch the all matches but nah better to watch the highlights at youtube. This is the worst series so far in my opinion 99% decision match ups. Waiting for the upcoming UFC 209 Thompson vs Woodley I hope this will not disappoint me.

idk what people want, I guess watch street fights on youtube, or worldstar you will get your satisfaction.

Miller vs Poirier, was a barn burner

Souza vs Boetschm ,somehow Souza gets the sub in rd1 really dangrous fighter

AS vs Brunson was classic AS troll mode like he is in the matrix GOAT

Holm vs Germine was damn close , sure they could have taken a point away the first time

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Quote from: krach on February 12, 2017, 09:07:35 AM

I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

It was def close. At one point I really was thinking he lost, then the ref raised his arm. Literally made me sigh in relief that one. I'm gonna have to watch that fight again without any anxiety and with a clear mind later.

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What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match. I would like to watch the all matches but nah better to watch the highlights at youtube. This is the worst series so far in my opinion 99% decision match ups. Waiting for the upcoming UFC 209 Thompson vs Woodley I hope this will not disappoint me.

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