UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread - page 3.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on February 09, 2017, 03:51:06 PM

Holly Holm is still in her prime and there are not many tough competition in the new weight division apart from Cyborg and her reaction and reflexes are perfect even in her last fight in which she lost ,the problem was her game plan ,since she is a counter striker she waited too long and Valentina countered perfectly to everything she thew at her,Randamie has to prove her MMA credentials and since there are not many talented fighters in the division she got the opportunity to fight for the inaugural belt.

Holly Holm isn't old.

Her boxing record is 33-2.
MMA record is 10-2.
Kickboxing record is 2-1.

Overall she is 45-5.

50 professional fights is some wear and tear.

Randamie kickboxing record is 37-0.
MMA record is 6-3.

Overall she is 43-3.

Valentina is also a decorated kickboxer with a 58-2 kickboxing record.

In terms of fighter lore, it is said that with aging fighters the first thing they lose is their reflexes.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 09, 2017, 08:58:44 PM

Do you really watch the UFC? Holly Holm's reflexes slowing down? Accuracy waning? What are you talking about?

Why would Germaine want to have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu? She is fighting Holly Holm! A professional boxer and a kick boxer after that before joining the UFC. Training for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu vs primarily a striker would be a waste of time.

Holly Holm was very accurate and sharp when she fought Ronda Rousey.

In her fights after that, her accuracy seems to have declined. She didn't land many punches or kicks on Miesha Tate or Valentina Shevchenko.

Most MMA fighters from europe come to the united states to train. It might be said that america has some of the best MMA teams, coaches and trainers.

Germaine De Randamie training in holland, I don't know if there are many skilled coaches or sparring partners there for her to work with.

Holly Holm has been working with Israel Martinez, Jon Jones and Anthony Pettis wrestling coach. Holly's wrestling is also very good in addition to her boxing and kickboxing.

Holly could go for a takedown if that is where her team thinks Germaine is weakest.

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I have my predictions for the matches and all of the main events are easy ones unless and until there is an upset i hope i will win my parlay

Holly Holm     vs Germaine de Randamie
I go with Holly Holm to win the title

Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson
Anderson Silva will win the match

Ronaldo Souza vs Tim Boetsch
Ronaldo Souza to win the match by submission

Glover Teixeira vs Jared Cannonier
Glover Teixeira to win the match by KO/TKO

Dustin Poirier vs Jim Miller
Dustin Poirier to win the match

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 10, 2017, 05:41:14 AM

@krach. Thank you for posting the links and giving us your tips. I already made a bet on Germaine moneyline and got in at a good price 1.85 on Nitrogen Sports.

I agree with your friend in the video. Jacare versus Tim Boetsch will go over 1.5 rounds. Tim is tougher than you think.

Good luck with your bet line with Germaine ,i think this match will go the entire 5 rounds and it all depends on the stamina of Germaine as i know she has never being in a five round fight in MMA,so it is a big test for her .
Jacare Souza is a hard battle for Tim Boetsch, he hits hard but if Jacare Souza takes him to the ground then it is game over and that is what i see is going to happen in this match.

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@krach. Thank you for posting the links and giving us your tips. I already made a bet on Germaine moneyline and got in at a good price 1.85 on Nitrogen Sports.

I agree with your friend in the video. Jacare versus Tim Boetsch will go over 1.5 rounds. Tim is tougher than you think.

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Germaine de Randamie
Jacare Souza vs. Tim Boetsch under 1½ rounds

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The line is moving towards the favorite De Randamie. I hope it moves some more so Holm's line moves in the opposite direction more. This fight might be closer to evens than we think. I'm gonna wait until the weigh-ins before making the bet and see how Holm's nerves is really affecting her mentally.

There's an interview with her where it shows that the nerves could be getting to her psychologically. De Randamie on the other hand is more relaxed and confident. Be careful if you corner the wounded tiger though. Holm, with a good game plan plus going all out might be the ticket to beat De Randamie.

Watch the interviews.

Holly Holm UFC 208 Open Workout Scrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RusdLwtNHtM

Germaine de Randamie UFC 208 Open Workout Scrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41G5JgsvYdo

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQmBSh8aRE

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 09, 2017, 02:31:47 PM

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Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.

The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.

Do you really watch the UFC? Holly Holm's reflexes slowing down? Accuracy waning? What are you talking about?

Why would Germaine want to have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu? She is fighting Holly Holm! A professional boxer and a kick boxer after that before joining the UFC. Training for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu vs primarily a striker would be a waste of time.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 09, 2017, 02:31:47 PM

The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.

I also think Holly Holm wins the fight. We will see.

I'm glad Holly Holm is fighting at 145 now and not cutting as much weight. Should be healthier for both of them.
I have to re-watch De Randamies last few fights. Right now I think Holly Holm should be the favorite to win.

Holly Holm is still in her prime and there are not many tough competition in the new weight division apart from Cyborg and her reaction and reflexes are perfect even in her last fight in which she lost ,the problem was her game plan ,since she is a counter striker she waited too long and Valentina countered perfectly to everything she thew at her,Randamie has to prove her MMA credentials and since there are not many talented fighters in the division she got the opportunity to fight for the inaugural belt.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 08, 2017, 05:40:44 PM

Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.

Holly Holm trained at Jacksonwink, an MMA gym from the time she was in high school, but never competed in kickboxing or MMA until her boxing career was over. De De Randamie didn't have good wrestling and good takedown defense until late in her MMA career when she trained at american kickboxing academy, the same gym as Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier, Luke Rockhold and those big name MMA fighters. That's one reason for her record not being as impressive as it might have been. Even though De Randamie's wrestling has improved, I think Holly Holm is the stronger and better wrestler and the better athlete.

The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.

I also think Holly Holm wins the fight. We will see.

Quote from: tokeweed on February 09, 2017, 12:33:52 AM

Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable? It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters. This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence. This is closer to 50/50 I think.

Edit: Oh and here's the media day face offs. Nothing much to see though. Everyone feels friendly except Jacare and the big bear.

UFC 208: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBTEz7jEeH4

I'm glad Holly Holm is fighting at 145 now and not cutting as much weight. Should be healthier for both of them.

I have to re-watch De Randamies last few fights. Right now I think Holly Holm should be the favorite to win.

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Quote from: tokeweed on February 09, 2017, 12:33:52 AM

Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable? It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters. This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence. This is closer to 50/50 I think.

It is an unpredictable match and every fight is unpredictable ,this is a new weight division and the only elite fighter in the division is Justino Cyborg and since she is out the 135 pound fighters are elevated to fight for the championship,Miesha Tate defeated Holmes but she was winning the match till the 5th round and somehow Tate took her down in the last moment and chocked her out,her loss to Valentina Shevchenko who is relatively unknown to MMA fans but a beast in martial arts,look at her resume ,she defeat Joanna Jędrzejczyk three times in Muay Thai kick boxing competitions,black belt in multiple martial arts,so what i am trying to tell is that Holmes lost to Shevchenko because she is a crazy talent.
Germaine de Randamie is undefeated but how about the level of competition she faced and she had her loss in MMA when she faced top level fighters,so these are the reasons i think Holmes could win this match up.

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Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable? It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters. This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence. This is closer to 50/50 I think.

Edit: Oh and here's the media day face offs. Nothing much to see though. Everyone feels friendly except Jacare and the big bear.

UFC 208: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBTEz7jEeH4

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 08, 2017, 01:38:17 PM

The main event should be interesting. Holly Holm is the most decorated boxer in the UFC, versus the one of the most decorated kickboxers in Germaine De Randamie. I think De Randamie is still training out of American Kickboxing Academy. Holly Holm trains at JacksonWink. De Randamie's ground game and wrestling have been suspect in the past when she fought Amanda Nunes. Cutting less weight means both of them should be sharper at 145 than they were at 135. Whoever wins can keep the belt warm until Cyborg returns.

I think there are a few guaranteed winners on this card. Odds are not good for them, too low.

Anderson Silva and Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza are now training together. There should be some good fights.

Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.

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The main event should be interesting. Holly Holm is the most decorated boxer in the UFC, versus the one of the most decorated kickboxers in Germaine De Randamie. I think De Randamie is still training out of American Kickboxing Academy. Holly Holm trains at JacksonWink. De Randamie's ground game and wrestling have been suspect in the past when she fought Amanda Nunes. Cutting less weight means both of them should be sharper at 145 than they were at 135. Whoever wins can keep the belt warm until Cyborg returns.

I think there are a few guaranteed winners on this card. Odds are not good for them, too low.

Anderson Silva and Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza are now training together. There should be some good fights.

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What's up UFC fans. I'm posting some really good videos for you. The first two are some analysis from Dan Hardy for the main event and the co main event for 208. And I will be posting a couple of other videos from their UFC Embedded series. Finally there's also the UFC 208 Countdown which somewhat hypes the fight a bit but it's still good for entertainment purposes. Enjoy!

UFC 208: Inside The Octagon - Holly Holm vs Germaine de Randamie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6eQzYeN0Qk

UFC 208: Inside The Octagon - Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2KZ5Ih6oFY

UFC 208 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qMGmi3wLTU

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox8LIMSLBvw

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThB_CWRDg8w

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Quote from: asdalani on February 07, 2017, 08:34:38 PM

Quote from: Hanako on February 07, 2017, 08:16:01 PM

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Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.

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it is legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.

The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much).

Thanks for the link dude, I don't know when the last time I watched pay per view with my friends. I don't want to miss this one because I have my spare time to watch this coming Saturday night. Yes she's also Kickboxer once she caught you with his kick probably you will get knocked out like what happened to Ronda Rousey.

You're welcome! Cool, cool.

That makes much sense, her stance was tight when fighting Rhonda Rousey.

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Quote from: asdalani on February 07, 2017, 08:34:38 PM

Quote from: Hanako on February 07, 2017, 08:16:01 PM

Quote from: asdalani on February 07, 2017, 08:06:04 PM

Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.

Of course,

$5 in BTC Private Stream: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ufc-boxing10-loginsufc-in-boxing-ppvlive-vod-1118436

it is legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.

The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much).

Thanks for the link dude, I don't know when the last time I watched pay per view with my friends. I don't want to miss this one because I have my spare time to watch this coming Saturday night. Yes she's also Kickboxer once she caught you with his kick probably you will get knocked out like what happened to Ronda Rousey.

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Quote from: Hanako on February 07, 2017, 08:16:01 PM

Quote from: asdalani on February 07, 2017, 08:06:04 PM

Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.

Of course,

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Code:

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it's legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.

The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much). You might be right about 2 rounds.

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Quote from: asdalani on February 07, 2017, 08:06:04 PM

Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.

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Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

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Quote from: krach on February 06, 2017, 09:29:18 PM

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Germaine Radamie winning via unanimous decision could be a good one

Im not sure of the odds yet but I think this will go the 5 round distance.
Im sticking to Germaine win right now around 1.85
You could possibly hedge that with holm via UD so that you break even if that happens.

Yes good idea thanks. What sportsbooks would you recommend for UFC prop betting that gives good odds and what sportsbooks would you recommend for sportsbetting in general? I use 2 sometimes 3 different sportsbooks but I think I need more to find the best odds. The problem is I do not know which ones are trustworthy.

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