It went on to say;
Section 33 of the Act (as amended by the Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Act 2014) applies to the provision of facilities for remote gambling if at least one piece of remote gambling equipment used in the provision of the facilities is situated in Great Britain, or if no such equipment is situated in Great Britain but the facilities are used there. The provision of facilities for gambling to persons in the UK through some of the websites that appear on your portal is or is likely to be unlawful, because these services are not licensed by the Commission.
Topic: UK Gambling Commission says UK based sites need a license! - page 3. (Read 11994 times)
This is an extract from the letter the UK Gambling Commission sent me when they ordered me to close down my portal:
There is nothing intrinsically unlawful about betting or gaming using digital crypto-currencies. It is clear, however, that Bitcoin (and other crypto-currencies) fall within the definition of “money or money’s worth” as defined in the Act. As a result, a person offering facilities for gambling using Bitcoin requires a licence as it is an offence under section 33 of the Act to provide facilities for gambling without the appropriate licence authorising that activity.
There is nothing intrinsically unlawful about betting or gaming using digital crypto-currencies. It is clear, however, that Bitcoin (and other crypto-currencies) fall within the definition of “money or money’s worth” as defined in the Act. As a result, a person offering facilities for gambling using Bitcoin requires a licence as it is an offence under section 33 of the Act to provide facilities for gambling without the appropriate licence authorising that activity.
Quote from: FortuneJack on June 17, 2015, 08:16:08 AM
We have added Great Britain into our list of blocked regions because online gambling is illegal there
I think that is technically incorrect.....we can do as much online gambling as we want from the UK as long as the outfits we bet with have a licence to accept British bets....whether they be fiat or bitcoin.
We have added Great Britain into our list of blocked regions because online gambling is illegal there
I think that is technically incorrect.....we can do as much online gambling as we want from the UK as long as the outfits we bet with have a licence to accept British bets....whether they be fiat or bitcoin.
It is primarily the sports books which got the email to shut down, and not other gambling sites. And because of this I don't see US following the same steps, unless they want to go after every gambling site to shut them down.
It seems that it is not only restricted to an unlicensed sportsbook. FortuneJack has shut their doors to UK gamblers as well
We have added Great Britain into our list of blocked regions because online gambling is illegal there. In the past we had blocked several US states for the same reason. Although, we are working with gambling commission to resolve the issue as soon as possible and meet the country regulations.
For the bolded part, it seems like they are looking into purchasing a license there so that they could keep on providing their service for the UK gamblers or that it is an excuses from them. It will be just a matter of time I guess before the UK gambling commission hit another top gambling sites.
There isnt any other non sportsbook gambling sites that announce things about shutting their doors down for the UK gambler apart from FortuneJack so I suspect this could be a precautions moves from FortuneJack or either than they are based on UK
what reason do the UK have for doing this?
How much do you think the UK Government rake in every year from the likes of Hills, Corals, Ladbrokes, Bet365, Paddy Power etc?
And how much will they rake in from bitcoin sportbooks present and future?
I think that may answer your question.
Yep! It's purely so they can get their hands on their cut. No doubt they would provide a different answer if you were to ask them though.
That does seem to be the likely case. It is primarily the sports books which got the email to shut down, and not other gambling sites. And because of this I don't see US following the same steps, unless they want to go after every gambling site to shut them down.
why on earth am I being made to feel like a criminal for wanting to bet with bitcoin??
You are not being made to feel like a criminal for wanting to bet with BTC , it is not about betting with BTC or FIAT just that UK residents isnt allowed to bet at an unlicensed gambling sites and unfortunate most of BTC gambling sites are unlicensed.
These unlicensed gambling sites has no other option than to comply with the regulation otherwise there is a chance that their business might be taken down or that I suspect there is some serious threat from the UK gambling commision judging from how quick all of this site comply to them
And how long before the American Gambling Commissions go down the same route?
Soon I guess, with UK gambling commision going hard for all this illegal gambling activities then I suspect the US will be heading the same road soon. These aggresive move is to prevent a random guy from opening an illegal gambling sites out of nowhere and think that he could got away from the regulation
I'm not happy about this, regulatory rules are annoying as fuck to be honest. Because of this Nitrogen Sports have now stopped accepting bets from the UK. They were one of my favourite BTC accepting bookies.
Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
I don't see why there are so many bull shit rules implemented on us, what reason do the UK have for doing this?
Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
I don't see why there are so many bull shit rules implemented on us, what reason do the UK have for doing this?
Cos UK defines bitcoin as not money, if they define bitcoin as money, I think those unlisenced bitcoin casinos can't afford the license, I don't know the price, but I am sure it is extremely expensive, only big companies can afford that.
So they do not allow bitcoin gambling sites cos they don't have UK license, but you have best online casinos, bet365, williamhill, ladbrokes, so UK gov hope you can bet on licensed casinos, but not those unlicensed ones, to avoid scam cases, and they don't get taxes from unlicensed casinos.
what reason do the UK have for doing this?
How much do you think the UK Government rake in every year from the likes of Hills, Corals, Ladbrokes, Bet365, Paddy Power etc?
And how much will they rake in from bitcoin sportbooks present and future?
I think that may answer your question.
Yep! It's purely so they can get their hands on their cut. No doubt they would provide a different answer if you were to ask them though.
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Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
yes, you can play there. Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
By the way LFC, I've sent you a personal message.
what reason do the UK have for doing this?
How much do you think the UK Government rake in every year from the likes of Hills, Corals, Ladbrokes, Bet365, Paddy Power etc?
And how much will they rake in from bitcoin sportbooks present and future?
I think that may answer your question.
I'm not happy about this, regulatory rules are annoying as fuck to be honest. Because of this Nitrogen Sports have now stopped accepting bets from the UK. They were one of my favourite BTC accepting bookies.
Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
I don't see why there are so many bull shit rules implemented on us, what reason do the UK have for doing this?
Does anybody know if I use Tor or a VPN would I still be able to bet there?
I don't see why there are so many bull shit rules implemented on us, what reason do the UK have for doing this?
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Now Anonibet is blocking us UK punters.
Just Cloudbet left.
This is a nightmare.
Whats the reason for you of not getting yourself a VPN? you can get a very cheap VPN just to bypass this IP block easily and you will still be able to play at your favourite website. Also you can always use a public wifi to access your wallet so that the UK gambling commission could not track your activity
That is the issue.
And how long before the American Gambling Commissions go down the same route?
Surely it won't just stop at us in Britain.
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Now Anonibet is blocking us UK punters.
Just Cloudbet left.
This is a nightmare.
Whats the reason for you of not getting yourself a VPN? you can get a very cheap VPN just to bypass this IP block easily and you will still be able to play at your favourite website. Also you can always use a public wifi to access your wallet so that the UK gambling commission could not track your activity
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Now Anonibet is blocking us UK punters.
Just Cloudbet left.
This is a nightmare.
free vpn
problem solved
That's good, but you're still at risk with a VPN. They log your ip and disclose it upon government's request.problem solved
Thanks for clearing that up.
Not just my IP.....EVERYONE in the UK's IP address.
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Did you say this as those websites have chosen to restrict your access from you UK IP address or did the Gambling Commission communicate something to you directly?
They sent me a 'Cease and Desist' order setting out in no uncertain terms, that I was open to being prosecuted if the site wasn't taken down swiftly.
And the sites above have chosen to block my IP address at the request of the Gambling Commission.
They all blocked your IP address specificly?! Jeezus thats crazy. Are you on a static IP? I know that you could work around it with a VPN but that seems quite a message.
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc
Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
Did you say this as those websites have chosen to restrict your access from you UK IP address or did the Gambling Commission communicate something to you directly?
They sent me a 'Cease and Desist' order setting out in no uncertain terms, that I was open to being prosecuted if the site wasn't taken down swiftly.
And the sites above have chosen to block my IP address at the request of the Gambling Commission.
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