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Topic: UK Gambling Commission says UK based sites need a license! - page 4. (Read 11980 times)

legendary
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#SWGT CERTIK Audited
Didn't expect Nitrogen sports to be affected by this. Seems the threat must be real serious. I hope the other countries don't follow the same path.
sr. member
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BitcoinRush.io and CasinoBitco.in have unfortunately closed business to UK members.



It's getting worse.
 Angry
I think the saying goes, "They are out in force".
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)

Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc

Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
 Undecided

Did you say this as those websites have chosen to restrict your access from you UK IP address or did the Gambling Commission communicate something to you directly?
legendary
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BitcoinRush.io and CasinoBitco.in have unfortunately closed business to UK members.



It's getting worse.
 Angry
legendary
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Merit: 1030
BitcoinRush.io and CasinoBitco.in have unfortunately closed business to UK members.

full member
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Merit: 113
Web dev for hire
Honestly I don't know who would browse bitcoin gambling sites in this day and age without a VPN. It costs so little, yet is so important when it comes to privacy.
legendary
Activity: 879
Merit: 1001
Not content with shutting my website down, the UK Gambling Commission has now seen to it that I cannot bet with my bitcoin at the following (so far)

Direct Bet
Fairlay
Nitrogen Sports
BetBtc

Where ever you are in the world, enjoy your freedom.....ours here in Britain is slowly vanishing.
 Undecided
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1081
#SWGT CERTIK Audited
free vpn

problem solved
That's good, but you're still at risk with a VPN. They log your ip and disclose it upon government's request.
That is usually not the case. The government will never go that far to track your activity online and the VPN's probably wouldn't provide the data as well. And By the time you gamble and withdraw , youd be long gone. You can also just use TOR .
sr. member
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Merit: 250
free vpn

problem solved
That's good, but you're still at risk with a VPN. They log your ip and disclose it upon government's request.
I think it's the licensees that the governments will go after, not the gamblers.
hero member
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In math we trust.
free vpn

problem solved
That's good, but you're still at risk with a VPN. They log your ip and disclose it upon government's request.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
im not sure about UK laws on gambling but im sure only the laws of the country your operating from apply so they are regulated by the one main country and international relations does the rest ??
Not as of December 2014. Legislation came in to force in the UK where there is a new point of consumption tax of 15% payable by it's licensees.
full member
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bitcoin supporter
free vpn

problem solved
legendary
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im not sure about UK laws on gambling but im sure only the laws of the country your operating from apply so they are regulated by the one main country and international relations does the rest ??
newbie
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The UK Gambling Commission has written to online sportsbooks, bookmakers and casinos telling them to block anyone with a UK IP address.
Already, Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin betting exchange have implemented this today.
It's outrageous.

I can get on Directbet and all other sites just fine.

The UK Gambling Commission has written to online sportsbooks, bookmakers and casinos telling them to block anyone with a UK IP address.
Already, Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin betting exchange have implemented this today.
It's outrageous.

Are Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin UK based?

If not, why are they blocking UK IPs?

I don't understand why everyone seems to be taking orders from the UK Gambling Commission all of a sudden without any explanation to end users.

Any more details on this would be appreciated.

If they're providing a service to the UK then I think they still have to comply with their laws, otherwise anyone could just set up a casion based on some island somewhere but continue to operate their site in the UK market.
legendary
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They are not losing all of it I would say. Basically if a gambler is fond enough with a site, it will not be much hassle for him to access it through a proxy. However as a unlicensed gambling site, the risk are far greater than keep on serving business for the UK customer .
It will be much of a nightmare for you because you might see the legal feds knocking on your front the next morning and this would be the reason that most unlicensed sites has taken the safety precautions rather than facing the law in the future

Why would a gambler continue to bet with a site that still hasn't offered a full explanation of the situation?

If they are willing to ban one country's IP with no explanation, they will continue to do the same with other countries sooner or later.

Their business is finished.

Actually there is already an explanation for all of this , it will be because they are unlicensed and there is a risk that they might be taken down. So if you ask them, they will explain to you that online gambling is illegal there and so on rather than telling you the truth about that they are unlicensed and not banning the UK IP will harm their business

Not every country has a great influence towards online gambling, which in this case UK has some influence I would say that most sites has obey their request. If only the request coming from some country in the middle of Africa, I doubt that they will follow the request
newbie
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Taken from

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/FAQs/Online-gambling/Why-has-the-Gambling-Commission-written-to-Bitcoin-operators.aspx

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Why has the Gambling Commission written to Bitcoin operators?

 
We are concerned about illegal gambling operators providing facilities for gambling to consumers in Great Britain. An operator needs to be licensed by the Gambling Commission regardless of where they are located in the world, if they provide facilities for gambling to consumers in Great Britain. We have written to a number of website operators offering prizes of money or money’s worth to gamblers in Britain that are not licensed by us. Bitcoin comes under the category of money’s worth and therefore any operator offering this facility to gamblers in Britain requires an operating licence or they are acting illegally.
Page last reviewed: June 2015


They mention nothing about Litecoin, Dogecoin, etc. and areas in the UK outside of Great Britain... the whole thing has no proper clarification about what exactly is legal and what is not.

It may appear to be less hassle short term but trust me they are losing their business long term if they are this unprincipled.


They are not losing all of it I would say. Basically if a gambler is fond enough with a site, it will not be much hassle for him to access it through a proxy. However as a unlicensed gambling site, the risk are far greater than keep on serving business for the UK customer .
It will be much of a nightmare for you because you might see the legal feds knocking on your front the next morning and this would be the reason that most unlicensed sites has taken the safety precautions rather than facing the law in the future

Why would a gambler continue to bet with a site that still hasn't offered a full explanation of the situation?

If they are willing to ban one country's IP with no explanation, they will continue to do the same with other countries sooner or later.

Their business is finished.

I would like to see what happens incase one of the gambling sites(not in UK) does not agree to their request.

Exactly.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I am in the UK.
Yes, they contacted me via email with a Cease and Desist  letter attached in PDF format.
They certainly mean business.
I think a war on bitcoin gambling has begun.
I would like to see what happens incase one of the gambling sites(not in UK) does not agree to their request. I really doubt they will do anything, but would still be nice to see. If their threats work and are serious, I see US implementing a similar law soon.
I get a different impression. It seems to me they are out in force and such a 'criminal' would be attacked at the jugular.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
I am in the UK.
Yes, they contacted me via email with a Cease and Desist  letter attached in PDF format.
They certainly mean business.
I think a war on bitcoin gambling has begun.
I would like to see what happens incase one of the gambling sites(not in UK) does not agree to their request. I really doubt they will do anything, but would still be nice to see. If their threats work and are serious, I see US implementing a similar law soon.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
The government are taking bitcoin seriously. The next phase is to get licensed bitcoin gambling sites. Integration in to already licensed fiat sites comes after.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
I am in the UK.

I wondered if they are taking down all websites that promote an unlicensed bookies or that only restricted to the UK. if the UK gambling commision is pulling this huge step, we might see the US gambling commision to pull some similar stunt as well soon, then again the whole word of illegal gambling will be pretty much limited with all this restriction

I think a war on bitcoin gambling has begun.

It isnt a war on BTC gambling but rather a war to the unlicensed gambling website, Im sure they did the same thing to FIAT gambling site as well. This would put on more pressure to the unlicensed gambling website to get a license which would give the commision an extra income.
Well even playing at a licensed gambling website isnt a guarantee either that we wont be cheated or having the operator to run with our funds
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