Topic: UK Recording over 10.000 cases (Read 607 times)

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 28, 2021, 03:12:34 PM

This exactly why there is no difference anymore between the no vaccinated, partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated people when it comes to travelling in high risk areas. I read this weekend that if you travel to UK, Russia or Portugal that you need to go into isolation for 14 days. That is a bit crazy, because why get the vaccine in the first place then? Also with the upcoming Euro 2020 final in London, this going to be hard.

Vaccine worked well against the original strain, because the mRNA particles were designed based on it. But now the virus is mutating very fast and the vaccine efficacy is going down. Against the original strain, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had efficacy of 95%. The same efficacy can be achieved against the mutated strains as well, in case a booster shot is administered to those who are already vaccinated. Irrespective of the strain, the truth is that unvaccinated people have a much higher chance of dying from CoVID compared to those who are at least partially vaccinated.

And that can easily be observed through statistic data from websites such as Worldometers. UK had 3 deaths today and almost 23,000 cases. Israel on the other side had only 65 cases yesterday, with zero deaths, and today 296 cases and one death.

It's pretty safe to say that vaccines are working, however, the new Delta variant is spreading throughout the world in a fast pace.

And the other thing, observed from VAERS, is that the vaccinated people have much higher chance of dying from the vaccine that the unvaccinated do.

Check VAERS - https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data - for the number of deaths, etc., in the US so far. Then check - https://www.openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf - which shows that VAERS is getting only 1% of the reports.

Wow! 600,000 dead from the vaccines so far in the US. That's like 100,000 per month on average.

However, that per-month number will go down. Why? People have stopped getting vaxxed in the US... at 50% or so. You can divide the number of OTHER deaths in half or less, because, due to Covid, people have found that vitamin D mega-dosing will save them from all kinds of other comorbidity deaths besides Covid.

Of course, when China invades, those deaths may be going up again.

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I already answered you regarding VAERS, but you continue your stupid little story. I got vaccinated today and have no symptoms at all, but answering to you just a waste of time and energy. You'll just keep posting your "research".

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 28, 2021, 01:20:49 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 28, 2021, 01:20:49 PM

This exactly why there is no difference anymore between the no vaccinated, partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated people when it comes to travelling in high risk areas. I read this weekend that if you travel to UK, Russia or Portugal that you need to go into isolation for 14 days. That is a bit crazy, because why get the vaccine in the first place then? Also with the upcoming Euro 2020 final in London, this going to be hard.

Vaccine worked well against the original strain, because the mRNA particles were designed based on it. But now the virus is mutating very fast and the vaccine efficacy is going down. Against the original strain, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had efficacy of 95%. The same efficacy can be achieved against the mutated strains as well, in case a booster shot is administered to those who are already vaccinated. Irrespective of the strain, the truth is that unvaccinated people have a much higher chance of dying from CoVID compared to those who are at least partially vaccinated.

And that can easily be observed through statistic data from websites such as Worldometers. UK had 3 deaths today and almost 23,000 cases. Israel on the other side had only 65 cases yesterday, with zero deaths, and today 296 cases and one death.

It's pretty safe to say that vaccines are working, however, the new Delta variant is spreading throughout the world in a fast pace.

And the other thing, observed from VAERS, is that the vaccinated people have much higher chance of dying from the vaccine that the unvaccinated do.

Check VAERS - https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data - for the number of deaths, etc., in the US so far. Then check - https://www.openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf - which shows that VAERS is getting only 1% of the reports.

Wow! 600,000 dead from the vaccines so far in the US. That's like 100,000 per month on average.

However, that per-month number will go down. Why? People have stopped getting vaxxed in the US... at 50% or so. You can divide the number of OTHER deaths in half or less, because, due to Covid, people have found that vitamin D mega-dosing will save them from all kinds of other comorbidity deaths besides Covid.

Of course, when China invades, those deaths may be going up again.

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This exactly why there is no difference anymore between the no vaccinated, partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated people when it comes to travelling in high risk areas. I read this weekend that if you travel to UK, Russia or Portugal that you need to go into isolation for 14 days. That is a bit crazy, because why get the vaccine in the first place then? Also with the upcoming Euro 2020 final in London, this going to be hard.

Vaccine worked well against the original strain, because the mRNA particles were designed based on it. But now the virus is mutating very fast and the vaccine efficacy is going down. Against the original strain, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had efficacy of 95%. The same efficacy can be achieved against the mutated strains as well, in case a booster shot is administered to those who are already vaccinated. Irrespective of the strain, the truth is that unvaccinated people have a much higher chance of dying from CoVID compared to those who are at least partially vaccinated.

And that can easily be observed through statistic data from websites such as Worldometers. UK had 3 deaths today and almost 23,000 cases. Israel on the other side had only 65 cases yesterday, with zero deaths, and today 296 cases and one death.

It's pretty safe to say that vaccines are working, however, the new Delta variant is spreading throughout the world in a fast pace.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 06:43:26 AM

This exactly why there is no difference anymore between the no vaccinated, partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated people when it comes to travelling in high risk areas. I read this weekend that if you travel to UK, Russia or Portugal that you need to go into isolation for 14 days. That is a bit crazy, because why get the vaccine in the first place then? Also with the upcoming Euro 2020 final in London, this going to be hard.

Vaccine worked well against the original strain, because the mRNA particles were designed based on it. But now the virus is mutating very fast and the vaccine efficacy is going down. Against the original strain, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had efficacy of 95%. The same efficacy can be achieved against the mutated strains as well, in case a booster shot is administered to those who are already vaccinated. Irrespective of the strain, the truth is that unvaccinated people have a much higher chance of dying from CoVID compared to those who are at least partially vaccinated.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 27, 2021, 11:32:20 PM

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

My thoughts exactly, I rescheduled my appointment for the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday. Despite getting vaccinated, I will continue being careful and wear a mask, for the exact same reason you specified.

I think we need to understand that being careful or wearing a protection mask before or after taking the vaccine is what's important because it still not enough to save us or preventing the spread of the virus because what's important is following all the required steps of good healthy hygiene that will curb the spread of the virus.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 06:43:26 AM

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

My thoughts exactly, I rescheduled my appointment for the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday. Despite getting vaccinated, I will continue being careful and wear a mask, for the exact same reason you specified.

If you die, be sure to get your death reported to whatever adverse effects reporting agency you have in your country.

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Don't worry because it won't happen. I'll report back here for you to see it. I find it amusing that you make such claims in public.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 04:49:06 AM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 06:43:26 AM

People aren't care their protection like before because they trust the vaccine. Therefore it will be worse than before. I hope everyone realise the matter and care themself and their relatives.

If we are talking about vaccinated peeps being infected, then it is negligible as they are only having the least alarming symptoms such as mild flu and such.

Though I will agree that they need to care about others as some are still not vaccinated, and maybe some of their relatives are not either

Vaccinated people can also get infected, the percentage of it happening isn't that high, however, as you've mentioned, if they aren't careful, it can happen. More importantly though, vaccines decrease the risk of having major disease's symptoms and will possibly save you the trip to the hospital (And reduce the risk of death).

This can be seen by observing UK's Covid-19 statistics, they are having 10.000 daily cases but only 15-20 deaths.

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

This exactly why there is no difference anymore between the no vaccinated, partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated people when it comes to travelling in high risk areas. I read this weekend that if you travel to UK, Russia or Portugal that you need to go into isolation for 14 days. That is a bit crazy, because why get the vaccine in the first place then? Also with the upcoming Euro 2020 final in London, this going to be hard.

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Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

My thoughts exactly, I rescheduled my appointment for the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday. Despite getting vaccinated, I will continue being careful and wear a mask, for the exact same reason you specified.

If you die, be sure to get your death reported to whatever adverse effects reporting agency you have in your country.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 04:49:06 AM

People aren't care their protection like before because they trust the vaccine. Therefore it will be worse than before. I hope everyone realise the matter and care themself and their relatives.

If we are talking about vaccinated peeps being infected, then it is negligible as they are only having the least alarming symptoms such as mild flu and such.

Though I will agree that they need to care about others as some are still not vaccinated, and maybe some of their relatives are not either

Vaccinated people can also get infected, the percentage of it happening isn't that high, however, as you've mentioned, if they aren't careful, it can happen. More importantly though, vaccines decrease the risk of having major disease's symptoms and will possibly save you the trip to the hospital (And reduce the risk of death).

This can be seen by observing UK's Covid-19 statistics, they are having 10.000 daily cases but only 15-20 deaths.

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

My thoughts exactly, I rescheduled my appointment for the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday. Despite getting vaccinated, I will continue being careful and wear a mask, for the exact same reason you specified.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 04:49:06 AM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 27, 2021, 04:49:06 AM

People aren't care their protection like before because they trust the vaccine. Therefore it will be worse than before. I hope everyone realise the matter and care themself and their relatives.

If we are talking about vaccinated peeps being infected, then it is negligible as they are only having the least alarming symptoms such as mild flu and such.

Though I will agree that they need to care about others as some are still not vaccinated, and maybe some of their relatives are not either

Vaccinated people can also get infected, the percentage of it happening isn't that high, however, as you've mentioned, if they aren't careful, it can happen. More importantly though, vaccines decrease the risk of having major disease's symptoms and will possibly save you the trip to the hospital (And reduce the risk of death).

This can be seen by observing UK's Covid-19 statistics, they are having 10.000 daily cases but only 15-20 deaths.

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

Though having my sympathy to those unvaccinated people who doesn't get vaccinated due to various significant reasons and getting infected, I'll be happy if the unvaccinated are the ones getting those, it will be like a real strike to the face where the vaccinated just get a mild flue or even just a mild fever, while the unvaccinated are in bed rest for few days, making their vitals stable as possible

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People aren't care their protection like before because they trust the vaccine. Therefore it will be worse than before. I hope everyone realise the matter and care themself and their relatives.

If we are talking about vaccinated peeps being infected, then it is negligible as they are only having the least alarming symptoms such as mild flu and such.

Though I will agree that they need to care about others as some are still not vaccinated, and maybe some of their relatives are not either

Vaccinated people can also get infected, the percentage of it happening isn't that high, however, as you've mentioned, if they aren't careful, it can happen. More importantly though, vaccines decrease the risk of having major disease's symptoms and will possibly save you the trip to the hospital (And reduce the risk of death).

This can be seen by observing UK's Covid-19 statistics, they are having 10.000 daily cases but only 15-20 deaths.

Im talking about vaccinated and not vaccinated people. Vaccinated people thinks: they are okay there is no problem for them but they might be infected and also they can spread the virus. On the other hand people who not vaccinated people thinks: Everyone getting vaccinated so no need to mask or vaccine bla bla bla. So everyday number of vaccinated people is getting higher and higher but its not meant to we must lower our shields Wink

This situation seems like herd mentality. But in this time we are own by own. We must be in alert all the time till this fucking virus gone

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People aren't care their protection like before because they trust the vaccine. Therefore it will be worse than before. I hope everyone realise the matter and care themself and their relatives.

If we are talking about vaccinated peeps being infected, then it is negligible as they are only having the least alarming symptoms such as mild flu and such.

Though I will agree that they need to care about others as some are still not vaccinated, and maybe some of their relatives are not either

Vaccinated people can also get infected, the percentage of it happening isn't that high, however, as you've mentioned, if they aren't careful, it can happen. More importantly though, vaccines decrease the risk of having major disease's symptoms and will possibly save you the trip to the hospital (And reduce the risk of death).

This can be seen by observing UK's Covid-19 statistics, they are having 10.000 daily cases but only 15-20 deaths.

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