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legendary
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June 22, 2021, 11:52:01 AM
#32
It looks as if the vaccines are causing the virus to mutate, as well as reducing natural immunity. Wearing face masks is another health threat, and they make it harder to shake off a viral infection.
legendary
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June 22, 2021, 08:20:36 AM
#31
Anyway, who cares about the spread of the virus,it is the number of people who become seriously ill that matters, and that is negligible.

Yes, because thankfully a lot of us are now vaccinated. Before the vaccine programme, a lot more people were becoming seriously ill (both in total and proportional to cases).
Here are two of the charts I posted previously, along with the cumulative vaccinations chart. You will note that in the last few months cases have risen dramatically again, but the death rate has dropped to near-zero. What could account for this? (Clue: vaccine)







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June 21, 2021, 07:27:17 AM
#30
No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?

I am rather a moron denier. That is distorted journalistic garbage. Just like the garbage argument you use that doesn't mention the most important part of what I said.
That's what you mentioned a few days ago,
Younger age groups are generally asymptomatic and have a near 0 chance of dying from coronavirus.
Let me inform you that I've known a few people who were in ICU for weeks, they were approximately 18-22 years old while they had no underlying conditions.

Having such a spike in Covid-19 cases is concerning, it's not journalistic garbage, it's statistic information that can be proven anytime.
legendary
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June 20, 2021, 11:57:23 PM
#29
No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?

I am rather a moron denier. That is distorted journalistic garbage. Just like the garbage argument you use that doesn't mention the most important part of what I said.
legendary
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June 20, 2021, 09:40:47 PM
#28
peolpe have natural immunity to 'common' corona.. meaning those that have been around

the whole point of the pandemic is that covid is novel.. a NEW varient that has not been around.
yes give it a few seasons and it will be common.

but new varients WHEN NEW cause more issues.

there are other factors too. but dont be an idiot if you think that having been infected by a 1960's strain makes you 100% immortal from a 2019 wuhan strain or the 2020 kent strain or the 2021 indian strain

what you dont want is too many cases. because even if the vaccine is making it less severe health harming.. the very fact that it still passes allows for oppertunity of mutation.
which could cause a strain to be more resistant to previous strain antibodies

there is a minor new strain every 2 weeks (two infection hops) and a strain divergence of significance every 4-5 months when there is peak cases

so its still important to not let the cases get too high. to slow down these divergent strains
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June 20, 2021, 04:48:21 PM
#27
It isn't the number of people who are infected, but the number to people with positive results from unreliable tests. Anyway, who cares about the spread of the virus,it is the number of people who become seriously ill that matters, and that is negligible. We have liked with Corona viruses since the 1930s, and most of us have natural immunity. This can be messed up by the lack of sunlight, wearing face masks, dehydration,confining families indoors, and other measures so beloved of the governments.

They need to try to force total vaccination to remove a control group for evidence when the inevitable claims against vaccine  damage arrive.
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June 20, 2021, 11:04:11 AM
#26



Retired ex-policeman mark sexton reported the govenment for murder and crimes against humanity.
https://rumble.com/vir9o7-retired-ex-policeman-mark-sexton-has-just-visited-the-police-to-report-the-.html
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June 19, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
#25
a vaccine does not create an invisible shield outside the body with a 'do not enter' sign

emphasis: ^ is not how vaccines work.

when people are infected. a vaccine knows how to fight it quick and efficiently and this not produce symptoms
symptoms are where the body have to go into overdrive to do something.

so yes whole lockdowns are relaxing CASE numbers will go up
but the number of hospitalisations per case go down


in 2020 when
it was like for every 100 cases 20 were hospitalised

in 2020
it is like for every 100 cases 7 were hospitalised


yes lockdowns prevent people even getting covid. but thats only a delay tactic.
vaccines fight the virus to prevent hospitalisation and thus death

again
no vaccines do not create a invisible 'do not enter' bubble shield to prevent infection
they do fight off the infection before it causes any negative effects
Vaccines can not only reduce the virus transmission, but also reduce the amount of deaths and hospitalizations, since you already have antibodies, this can easily be seen in the UK's statistics, with over 10.000 confirmed daily cases, the amount of deaths is really small, recording 15-20 deaths, despite the high number of cases.
legendary
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June 19, 2021, 07:18:22 PM
#24
Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.
~ Snip ~
Finally, someone who speaks out with valid data. Couldn't have said it better myself, however, it's a shame that after all this effort in reducing the transmission of Covid-19, was blown away by some inadequate travelling measures. Indians shouldn't have been let into the country without a vaccine certification and self-isolation.


But Indians are using IVERMECTIN, now. Possibly the safest nation in the world.

Cool
legendary
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June 19, 2021, 03:46:37 PM
#23
a vaccine does not create an invisible shield outside the body with a 'do not enter' sign

emphasis: ^ is not how vaccines work.

when people are infected. a vaccine knows how to fight it quick and efficiently and this not produce symptoms
symptoms are where the body have to go into overdrive to do something.

so yes whole lockdowns are relaxing CASE numbers will go up
but the number of hospitalisations per case go down


in 2020 when
it was like for every 100 cases 20 were hospitalised

in 2020
it is like for every 100 cases 7 were hospitalised


yes lockdowns prevent people even getting covid. but thats only a delay tactic.
vaccines fight the virus to prevent hospitalisation and thus death

again
no vaccines do not create a invisible 'do not enter' bubble shield to prevent infection
they do fight off the infection before it causes any negative effects
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June 19, 2021, 02:14:58 PM
#22
Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.
~ Snip ~
Finally, someone who speaks out with valid data. Couldn't have said it better myself, however, it's a shame that after all this effort in reducing the transmission of Covid-19, was blown away by some inadequate travelling measures. Indians shouldn't have been let into the country without a vaccine certification and self-isolation.
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June 19, 2021, 05:28:57 AM
#21
I was browsing the statistics of Covid-19 in Worldometers today, and was surprised to see that UK had over 11.000 cases yesterday. I was dumbfounded, since UK didn't have any significant amount of cases for the past few months. According to NBCNews, the Delta, which is 40 to 80% more transmissible that the previous variants, is said to be accountable for 95% of the latest surge in cases.

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197

Oh wow, that's insane. I haven't followed the corona numbers lately because I thought that during summer they were declining everywhere. Wasn't UK the country with the most people being vaccinated? I read about the delta mutation that it is much worse than the previous ones, but the vaccine should fight it too. The only problem is if you have only one dose of the vaccine, than the immunity is not strong enough yet. Does it mean that most people in UK only had one dose of the vaccine?
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June 19, 2021, 04:09:17 AM
#20
I was browsing the statistics of Covid-19 in Worldometers today, and was surprised to see that UK had over 11.000 cases yesterday. I was dumbfounded, since UK didn't have any significant amount of cases for the past few months. According to NBCNews, the Delta, which is 40 to 80% more transmissible that the previous variants, is said to be accountable for 95% of the latest surge in cases.

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197
Get ready for the third wave and probably this is not going to be limited in the UK, almost every region has to face this and all those vaccination dramas are for political reasons but in reality, people got vaccinated infected with covid and people got vaccinated few minutes after their dosage but the reason the medical field says that this is not happened due to the vaccines.
legendary
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June 19, 2021, 04:00:57 AM
#19
Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Or maybe not...

I'm in the UK. I've been following the data on a daily basis for well over a year now. If you want to have a look for yourself, this is as good a summary as any.

The UK is experiencing a surge in cases due to the rise of the 'delta' variant, which was first identified in India. This now accounts for 99% of new cases. For some reason (which I won't go into now for the purposes of brevity) the UK decided not to put India on the 'red' list of travel restrictions for quite some time, despite being well aware of the spread there of this more transmissible new strain. Red-listing India would have meant that people entering the UK from India would have had to self-isolate, which would almost certainly have reduced the spread.

The 'delta' variant...
The article or the video was saying that the vaccine is forcing the virus to mutate because the virus is taking precautions to stay alive constantly. His (or Her) idea was that the vaccines are making these mutations...
Made sense to me.

I don't know if you're a creationist, or if you believe in evolution through mutation and natural selection... but that's how humans got here. Viruses — particularly RNA-viruses such as Covid — also mutate and are of course subject to natural selection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_evolution
legendary
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June 18, 2021, 08:38:53 PM
#18
That's junk journalism that seeks to scare people. This is what they normally do. They live by causing emocional impact on readers but it has been exacerbated since the coronavirus.
No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?
It looks more like some variants from India were new now and people are affected. Meanwhile restrictions were lowered and as a result cases are rising. Beaches were also full last time it was reported.
So no junk journalism, just a report how it is right now in UK.

You should better sort out your fake arguments next time, many Corona deniers have made more catchy arguments.

The numbers in India are being massaged by the media and the medical. The States in India that have started implementing wide spread IVERMECTIN, are seeing an almost 100% reduction in Covid and associated deaths. The States that are promoting the vaxx are seeing deaths continue to rise.

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June 18, 2021, 07:40:14 PM
#17
That's junk journalism that seeks to scare people. This is what they normally do. They live by causing emocional impact on readers but it has been exacerbated since the coronavirus.
No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?
It looks more like some variants from India were new now and people are affected. Meanwhile restrictions were lowered and as a result cases are rising. Beaches were also full last time it was reported.
So no junk journalism, just a report how it is right now in UK.

You should better sort out your fake arguments next time, many Corona deniers have made more catchy arguments.
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June 18, 2021, 06:10:26 PM
#16
I thought that most of their population already got the vaccine. But with that number of cases, I think they can still isolate it and just push them to recover and receive the vaccine shot and they'll back again in the normal lives.
These youngsters got a better immune system so after they recover, they only have to take the vaccine and for sure they will because they've experienced how hard it is to have covid.
legendary
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June 18, 2021, 05:31:48 PM
#15
Like you mentioned, it's mainly the young people that are getting infected so this isn't really a big deal.

Same thing will happen every where -- young people aren't getting vaccinated because they don't feel the need, so the cases will periodically have small peaks because the unvaxed get Covid. The thing you need to look at is the death rate. If the deaths begin to increase, then you have a problem. Deaths usually lag behind, so wait 2-3 weeks and then we might worry.
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June 18, 2021, 04:51:09 PM
#14
UK Recording over 10.000 cases


Oh, they're simply talking about 10,000 cases of beer.


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legendary
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June 18, 2021, 03:54:28 PM
#13
That's not actually true and has already been debunked...

I didn't say I am sure that it is true. I said It made sense. Unless I see that debunking making more sense, it still makes sense to me.

...On top of that, now that the quarantine measures have eased, young people aren't really careful not taking safety measures seriously.

I already indicated this in my first post.
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