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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 494. (Read 1047042 times)

legendary
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but for real, though, the guy i REALLY want to hear from, and who's opinion would hold the most weight with me would be Blazr2.  that guy is the real deal.

+1000

After all Blazr2 is to UNO what Satoshi is to Bitcoin
AGREED

+1

and having prominer weigh in would be good too as he is probably what you would call an Uno whale Wink
(his opinion is important too)
On a lighter note:

@gustav is the winner of the $UNO pot for being the 1st post on page 300!
hero member
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This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years
You may be right, but I see:

-$USD failure
-BTC 'fork' FUD passing (in-the-know buy up cheap, and BTC is scaled up)
-Mass BTC adoption!!!

Don't be so quick to recuse Unobtanium from participating in this year's events.  I remember from maybe early 2014, if not late 2013, when, after having converted all my other cryptos to UNO, I had to watch as UNO was just about the last coin to participate in the gold rush at that time.  It was hell to have to watch all the coin I just had go up 10x-100x compounded on BTC's 10x rise.

Things shouldn't proceed the same this time, but you MUST be ready for success.  Take this as a very strong warning.  Sidechains or not.

hey, as a guy who'd holding a bunch of Unobtanium, I'd certainly be happy if it was worth 25x its current value, but I'm not going to be surprised if that doesn't happen for a good while out.  I'd also like to squash that peppy price hype and discourage newcomers from panic buying and causing wild price swings; i really just don't have the stomach for roller coasters any more.  

don't 'squash' ... if it goes up too fast for you: put a sellwall. I would do the same.

A crazy unrealistic pump would certainly run into sellwalls. Not necessary dump but just a gentle sellwall.  Wink

Right now i think we are at a totally sustainable price.
sr. member
Activity: 240
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This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years
You may be right, but I see:

-$USD failure
-BTC 'fork' FUD passing (in-the-know buy up cheap, and BTC is scaled up)
-Mass BTC adoption!!!

Don't be so quick to recuse Unobtanium from participating in this year's events.  I remember from maybe early 2014, if not late 2013, when, after having converted all my other cryptos to UNO, I had to watch as UNO was just about the last coin to participate in the gold rush at that time.  It was hell to have to watch all the coin I just had go up 10x-100x compounded on BTC's 10x rise.

Things shouldn't proceed the same this time, but you MUST be ready for success.  Take this as a very strong warning.  Sidechains or not.

hey, as a guy who'd holding a bunch of Unobtanium, I'd certainly be happy if it was worth 25x its current value, but I'm not going to be surprised if that doesn't happen for a good while out.  I'd also like to squash that peppy price hype and discourage newcomers from panic buying and causing wild price swings; i really just don't have the stomach for roller coasters any more.  
hero member
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but for real, though, the guy i REALLY want to hear from, and who's opinion would hold the most weight with me would be Blazr2.  that guy is the real deal.

+1000

After all Blazr2 is to UNO what Satoshi is to Bitcoin
AGREED

+1

and having prominer weigh in would be good too as he is probably what you would call an Uno whale Wink
(his opinion is important too)
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 504
This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years

Don't say it can't in case bitcoin continues to fail so hard as it does - uno provides the direct solution to most btc problems afterall. All it takes is one haleluja on coindesk for example and we're off to the moon.
There could be some domino effects happening - it's the internet, you know. Information spreads fast and things...
"A-greed"....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0R380Bz8A
hero member
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Bryce today tweeted ...

    Sidechains a few months away?

    Perfect.

    $UNO

Notice he put it as a question.

The big question, though, is "will it be profitable to mine UNO after May if the price remains, say, under $5?"  Or under even $10?

If not, what are the miners to do?  (excluding here pure altruistic love of the concept of UNO)

our hash is up 50% same as price

A lot of btc mining is going to shut down - mining hardware will be cheap this year.
I don't have any concerns about hash as long as Uno can stay at above 0.01 btc
hero member
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I've added another richlist for Unobtanium, this one currently shows top 10,000 addresses, still a work in progress...

https://cryptap.us/uno/richlist
full member
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Bryce today tweeted ...

    Sidechains a few months away?

    Perfect.

    $UNO

Notice he put it as a question.

The big question, though, is "will it be profitable to mine UNO after May if the price remains, say, under $5?"  Or under even $10?

If not, what are the miners to do?  (excluding here pure altruistic love of the concept of UNO)
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years
You may be right, but I see:

-$USD failure
-BTC 'fork' FUD passing (in-the-know buy up cheap, and BTC is scaled up)
-Mass BTC adoption!!!

Don't be so quick to recuse Unobtanium from participating in this year's events.  I remember from maybe early 2014, if not late 2013, when, after having converted all my other cryptos to UNO, I had to watch as UNO was just about the last coin to participate in the gold rush at that time.  It was hell to have to watch all the coin I just had go up 10x-100x compounded on BTC's 10x rise.

Things shouldn't proceed the same this time, but you MUST be ready for success.  Take this as a very strong warning.  Sidechains or not.

There won't be massadoption of Gavincoin because people can't run full nodes - they going to need to host the blockchain on google servers (lol). Currently Bitcoin has to learn 'one chain for all things' is not a viable philosophy. If anything happens, altcoins break free.

Maybe you didn't notice: but things are not like 2014 anymore. We're among the few coins that actually rise. You can't compare this year to 2014 at all.

Get yourself update on gavincoin. Up to 1000GB blockchain per year, hardfork with no consensus at all!! (they completely lost it)

Can you afford to download 120MB of blockchain every hour? I can't.
hero member
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Let's separate something:

Is this about Bryce's approach, or is this a technical discussion about the future and maintenance of the Unobtanium network?

...And remember to be respectful.  Wink
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 504
This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years
You may be right, but I see:

-$USD failure
-BTC 'fork' FUD passing (in-the-know buy up cheap, and BTC is scaled up)
-Mass BTC adoption!!!

Don't be so quick to recuse Unobtanium from participating in this year's events.  I remember from maybe early 2014, if not late 2013, when, after having converted all my other cryptos to UNO, I had to watch as UNO was just about the last coin to participate in the gold rush at that time.  It was hell to have to watch all the coin I just had go up 10x-100x compounded on BTC's 10x rise.

Things shouldn't proceed the same this time, but you MUST be ready for success.  Take this as a very strong warning.  Sidechains or not.
hero member
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Merit: 500
This IS the time to act, and there may only be weeks left to accomplish this.  Perhaps Bryce knows this, too, and thus the quasi-urgency.



Since when can people tell the future? I don't see any urgency at all. Hasty decisions are seldom good decisions - we have seen that time and time again.
legendary
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Merit: 1001


but for real, though, the guy i REALLY want to hear from, and who's opinion would hold the most weight with me would be Blazr2.  that guy is the real deal.

+1000

After all Blazr2 is to UNO what Satoshi is to Bitcoin
AGREED
full member
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Merit: 100
How/why does the official Unobtanium-Qt wallet (Win 7 pro) get out of sync?  When I see no mining revenue -- that I know should be there -- coming into it, I kill it, restart it immediately, and all of a sudden it's XX hours "behind".  Once it's finally caught up, I see the formerly missing mining revenue.  How/why does this happen?

Related to this, any word on the merge-mining?

I don't know... I have not seen this problem myself.
The network is healthy.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!network

How often does it happen? How many peers do you see?

It definitely is not the network; it definitely is the client.  I usually leave it running 24/7.  It happens at least once a week, I've had it happen up to three times in a week.

If I hover over the network-y looking icon on the bottom right, it says I have 8 active connections to the Unobtanium network.  That's now.  I restarted last night.  I guess I should look at it when it seems to not have been receiving any mining revenue I know is there.

hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years

Don't say it can't in case bitcoin continues to fail so hard as it does - uno provides the direct solution to most btc problems afterall. All it takes is one haleluja on coindesk for example and we're off to the moon.
There could be some domino effects happening - it's the internet, you know. Information spreads fast and things...
sr. member
Activity: 240
Merit: 250
This year: 10$ a coin
Next year 50$ a coin
what do you think ?

i don't really see this happening.  this is a grassroots community in a vast ocean of new cryptocurrencies, not like when bitcoin was a one-of-a-kind.  i definitely see a bright future, but $50 per kg in 2 years seems a little hasty.

i'll guess $4-5 by the end of the year.  can't see far enough ahead to predict 2 years
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500


but for real, though, the guy i REALLY want to hear from, and who's opinion would hold the most weight with me would be Blazr2.  that guy is the real deal.

+1000

After all Blazr2 is to UNO what Satoshi is to Bitcoin
hero member
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Merit: 500
@Bitcoin/Gavincoin/Mpcoin
Oh man! I don't believe in any of those but when it comes down to the war i'm with Mpcoin as i think it will be the surving coin if it can overcome the first difficulty adjustement for many reasons (but not going too far offtopic here). In this chaos nobody is going to invest in bitcoin - that's certain.
I will not be able to afford running Gavincoin as i don't have enough bandwidth or HD and i think normal people have neither so bitcoin looses it's userbase and will no longer be able to compete sufficiently due to wastefullness with peoples' recouces.
(If you want we can discuss the bitcoin missle crisis and civil war in the offtopic thread, maybe someone can provide a link so i don't have to search for it?)

@Changes in Uno
Not a good idea right now.
sr. member
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i'm leaning towards a vote for NO action, side chains or merged mining.  at least no action for 5 months.  i don't see any threat of dropping hash and with rising price the hash will also rise.  why dilute the pure chain we have here for a threat that isn't really there?

sounds like bryce has got his head in the clouds again and maybe thinking a little too much like its "his coin."  can we gently reel him in, back down to earth for a few?  what would it take to get him to have a brief conversation with us here?  I really don't like that there's a bit of a disconnect between him and the community

but for real, though, the guy i REALLY want to hear from, and who's opinion would hold the most weight with me would be Blazr2.  that guy is the real deal.
hero member
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In considering any major change, I have always found it very helpful to list the pros and cons. Does anyone have a link to what side chains are? What has been explained here briefly, seems to be a typical bell or whistle that really does nothing to add value. However, I want to learn more.

One thing to remember, these types of discussions are highly stressful. Let's all remember the greater community and remain respectful at all times.

In my opinion, one of UNO's greatest strengths is that it is not like everything else. I believe people are beginning to see that and interest is growing organically.

I also agree with a previous post, in which someone suggested Mr Weiner come into the forum and explain what the benefits and detriments of the side chain are, in his opinion.
Yes, I want to have a much better estimate of rockchain bloat from the changes asserted by Bryce.

One thing I can see, though, is the advantage of becoming THE positive example of sidechains.  Seriously, 0.10 BTC's in March, then up.  Without the change, hit 0.05 for a millisecond in October, then bear market for 5 months.  (Ok, possible, but this is bad FUD to support a vain bit of devil's advocate in an argument I don't understand.  Honestly, I'd say most people on here do not understand what is under discussion.  We really do need Bryce to go into intimate detail as to what sidechains are and what changes and advantages and disadvantages they present, and then we can actually de-facto complete our discussion and finalize our approach as a community.)
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