[...] at least they do exist, they are shipping and the hardware works.
This only applies to Desk customers not for the Rigs.
Topic: Unofficial BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 23. (Read 202946 times)
This only applies to Desk customers not for the Rigs.
I would suggest everyone to keep cool and wait for the devices to get shipped. My feeling is that they are doing quite well, yes of course they didn't meet their goal to start shipping in December and are about 3 months late, but at least they do exist, they are shipping and the hardware works. As a previous BFL customer I am very happy with the progress of Bitmine, I did not expect units to be shipped before April.
I Agree ! Only they should communicate better to the customers, but that is old news!
I would suggest everyone to keep cool and wait for the devices to get shipped. My feeling is that they are doing quite well, yes of course they didn't meet their goal to start shipping in December and are about 3 months late, but at least they do exist, they are shipping and the hardware works. As a previous BFL customer I am very happy with the progress of Bitmine, I did not expect units to be shipped before April.
So the output dropped to an astonishing 7-11 desks per day due to some material shortage? And Desks are not able to hash in turbo mode?
Didn´t expect the story to get much worse but of course bitmine.ch manages to f*ck things up again and again.
At least petamine can hash along happily right now.
What a clusterfuck - I see no way to not file a joint lawsuit against them now.
They have to get their asses handed to them.
I was speaking with bit mine yesterday and all what i heard leaded everything to the point that i sent all informations to my lawyer. i hope to get from him until beginning of week answer about what chances i will have to sue Bitmine. only thing what he said is that it would make more sense to sue them together with other disappointed customers.
he said also, that everything what i said on the phone gives us probably pretty good chances, but he has to read through ToS, CPP and check some specific swiss customer protection laws/regulations. now i am collecting material about official statements which are ever made by officials of Bitmine. it would be nice if somebody who has time and interest to help to collect materials just PMs me and we could speak about details.
Anybody interested to sue Bitmine? PM me!
I am living in germany and my lawyers speciality is international economics and contribution laws.
i also wrote them e-mails 2weeks ago, but didn´t get anything
no reply nothing
no reply nothing
bitmine don't reply email now
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christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us...christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
retro have no miner ? -> thats means under 60 units in two week
? what is going wrong ....and "tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11" <--- WHAT? So not enough "materials" in stock to finishing miners? What do they need? Solder? Maybe I can help them out?
As well today I heard that someone tried to send them money on a (older) order. The Local Bank said that the bitmine.ch account data doesnt exist any longer. The account has been terminated...mh good news? bad news? or doesnt matter?
i heard that bitmine will be in the swiss media. in few days the ship goes down. i hope giorgio is ready with his bitcoin wallet.
and here you can see giorgio @ businessmeeting youtube.com/watch?v=6bpubhZbewE
and he changed the status to out of stock, beacause giorgio got some funny questions from a reporter. believe me or not, in few days you will see whats going on.
@giorgio nice to hear that you can talk with the media, but not with your customer. you are the greediest bob that i ever had seen.
So the output dropped to an astonishing 7-11 desks per day due to some material shortage? And Desks are not able to hash in turbo mode?
Didn´t expect the story to get much worse but of course bitmine.ch manages to f*ck things up again and again.
At least petamine can hash along happily right now.
What a clusterfuck - I see no way to not file a joint lawsuit against them now.
They have to get their asses handed to them.
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turbo mode is horrible !! dont work at all
- heats the units to 60c even though its outside(no structure change)sounds like a fucking jet engine
placed outside to be cooled without changing the structure hopping to be cool but still does 40c......
dashboard hashing not accuret same with hashing on display 16x2
fans need to be changed
the structure of the unit needs to be changed - prob moving the fans
turbo needs to be fixed - it says on dashboard and 16x2 screen 500GH/s but on pool it says 375GH/s....
MY over all rating 6.2
problems here and there but it still hashs at 400 and im happy with it.... yes i know :/
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us...christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
retro have no miner ? -> thats means under 60 units in two week
? what is going wrong ....and "tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11" <--- WHAT? So not enough "materials" in stock to finishing miners? What do they need? Solder? Maybe I can help them out?
As well today I heard that someone tried to send them money on a (older) order. The Local Bank said that the bitmine.ch account data doesnt exist any longer. The account has been terminated...mh good news? bad news? or doesnt matter?
i heard that bitmine will be in the swiss media. in few days the ship goes down. i hope giorgio is ready with his bitcoin wallet.
and here you can see giorgio @ businessmeeting youtube.com/watch?v=6bpubhZbewE
and he changed the status to out of stock, beacause giorgio got some funny questions from a reporter. believe me or not, in few days you will see whats going on.
@giorgio nice to hear that you can talk with the media, but not with your customer. you are the greediest bob that i ever had seen.
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us...christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
retro have no miner ? -> thats means under 60 units in two week
? what is going wrong ....and "tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11" <--- WHAT? So not enough "materials" in stock to finishing miners? What do they need? Solder? Maybe I can help them out?
As well today I heard that someone tried to send them money on a (older) order. The Local Bank said that the bitmine.ch account data doesnt exist any longer. The account has been terminated...mh good news? bad news? or doesnt matter?
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us...christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
retro have no miner ? -> thats means under 60 units in two week
? what is going wrong ....and "tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11" <--- WHAT? So not enough "materials" in stock to finishing miners? What do they need? Solder? Maybe I can help them out?
As well today I heard that someone tried to send them money on a (older) order. The Local Bank said that the bitmine.ch account data doesnt exist any longer. The account has been terminated...mh good news? bad news? or doesnt matter?
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us...christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
retro have no miner ? -> thats means under 60 units in two week
? what is going wrong .... 
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Delays on your order don't bode well for the rest of us... christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
Caution Caution is followed by breaking news
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
christian A. von bitmine writes:
Hi x,
Yes I know, today we prepared 7 miner for you, tomorrow we will receive more materials for finish the load 11,
I will give you the final confirmation tomorrow around 16:00
Br
let's see what happens
As in the past, your personal insights here are very welcome and appreciated !
+1
No, please don't do that. If you want me to continue contributing some feedback, please do not nail me down to official statements. Official statements are Giorgio's business and I am not going to interfere with that.
No worries I won't
That's what I wanted to get at. Although we have some inofficial feedback from (sometimes very proficient) users in this forum, we have to keep on speculating and dreaming about the turbo mode, since there is no official information.
As in the past, your personal insinghts here are very welcome and apprecitated!
zefir, do you know anything about the desk shipping status, like how many units are send per day?
As for the over-clocking / turbo-mode: guys, no need to speculate - as I wrote several times, trubo mode is doable on chip or board basis, but is controllable on a product basis only to the extent that is already supported by FW (25% overclocking). I could post here what is required to drive a single board to 40-50% higher hashrates, but trying that would void your warranty. Seriously, it is not worth it.
Can this be regarded as official statement from bitmine, that the rig systems cannot meet the advertised specs regarding turbo mode, even with 12 chips per board?
If not, we have to keep waiting an speculate what the final outcome of the rig performance especially in power save and turbo mode is.
No, please don't do that. If you want me to continue contributing some feedback, please do not nail me down to official statements. Official statements are Giorgio's business and I am not going to interfere with that.
Regarding the Rig's performance, conduct from the numbers: a fully populated Rig has 96 chips, at nominal clocks they do generate 2.4THps. With the 25% overclockability used in the Desk, there is a reserve up to 3THps. With that and the experience we have so far, 3THps is expected to be within reach. But still: this is an expectation. Simulations indicate that you can get out that much heat out of the box, but giving a guarantee based on simulations is just not serious.
Yes thank you Zefir!
Please do keep us posted with any more updates as and when you have them.
Many thanks.
Please do keep us posted with any more updates as and when you have them.
Many thanks.
Maybe Zefir will know more. Zefir, any updates on sw or hw?
SW is ready, I have one Rig board in hand running stable for days. HW is also ready, but did not pass long term stability tests. EE folks are working to bypass observed issues.
As for the over-clocking / turbo-mode: guys, no need to speculate - as I wrote several times, trubo mode is doable on chip or board basis, but is controllable on a product basis only to the extent that is already supported by FW (25% overclocking). I could post here what is required to drive a single board to 40-50% higher hashrates, but trying that would void your warranty. Seriously, it is not worth it.
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