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Topic: Unofficial BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 32. (Read 202957 times)

legendary
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Right the fuck on. Miners actually have a great deal of control over the price. We produce the coins. As long as there is a real world demand for them, we can and do set the price. Or at least it's floor.

I think that was satoshi nakamotos intention since day 1.
To have the miners act like some kind of "night watch" (think game of thrones  Grin ) for the BTC price.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
in 2-3 months (...)
Learn the math first.

or maybe you should research stuff before mouthing off - try some of advanced mining calculators which take into consideration difficulty rise - you're looking at jun-july tops, to be in green, after that you will not generate enough to even cover electricity cost. if you got access to free electricity good for you, but most of people dont.

Only if you think like a daytrader who immediately dumps all generated coins on the market.

Why not just keep your coins? Sell them ONLY at a price you are comfortable with.

Waiting is very important if you want to be successful.

...

Yes, if you are one of those miners who depends on the machine to pay monthly bills, then it's gonna be a complete desaster...
...it doesn't work this way... stop thinking in days... start thinking in months and years.

I am going to help BTC by not underselling a specific price level. That's the least I can do, for myself, and the BTC market.

Right the fuck on. Miners actually have a great deal of control over the price. We produce the coins. As long as there is a real world demand for them, we can and do set the price. Or at least it's floor.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1007
spreadcoin.info
in 2-3 months (...)
Learn the math first.

or maybe you should research stuff before mouthing off - try some of advanced mining calculators which take into consideration difficulty rise - you're looking at jun-july tops, to be in green, after that you will not generate enough to even cover electricity cost. if you got access to free electricity good for you, but most of people dont.

Only if you think like a daytrader who immediately dumps all generated coins on the market.

Why not just keep your coins? Sell them ONLY at a price you are comfortable with.

Waiting is very important if you want to be successful.

...

Yes, if you are one of those miners who depends on the machine to pay monthly bills, then it's gonna be a complete desaster...
...it doesn't work this way... stop thinking in days... start thinking in months and years.

I am going to help BTC by not underselling a specific price level. That's the least I can do, for myself, and the BTC market.
grv
full member
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
in 2-3 months (...)
Learn the math first.

or maybe you should research stuff before mouthing off - try some of advanced mining calculators which take into consideration difficulty rise - you're looking at jun-july tops, to be in green, after that you will not generate enough to even cover electricity cost.
if you got access to free electricity good for you, but most people dont.
RHA
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grv
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in 2-3 months you wont be even able to mine enough to cover your electricity costs (and thats in low power mode), forget ROI (thats already way out of reach, and don't even dream about profit)
your best option is probably to ask for refund and buy btc directly.
basically you funded research and development of the product for free and you won't see a dime for it.

Be our Master, glorious Prophet of our Bitcoins. ;-)

be your own master :)
but i wasnt wrong -> see this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4934106

here's image displaying the progression of difficulty vs shipping date "delay"


grv
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in 2-3 months you wont be even able to mine enough to cover your electricity costs (and thats in low power mode), forget ROI (thats already way out of reach, and don't even dream about profit)
your best option is probably to ask for refund and buy btc directly.
basically you funded research and development of the product for free and you won't see a dime for it.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
I don't want to trigger too much consternation, but this may be my 5-module unit's problem:


(which is why they don't sell the Platimax 1500W in the US)

I'll be able to try this on a 240v circuit in a few hours...

hmm 1500 watt?

Total maximum power usage in turbo mode: 375 / 750 / 1125 / 1500 / 1875 W.

not 1875 watt?

http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=893


Coincraft Desk is the product of natural evolution from our Generation 1 devices based on older Avalon’s chip. It offers the ultimate mining performances with highly scalable hashing power starting from 200 GH/s up to 1 TH/s in increments of 200 GH/s for each of the installed hashing modules.The clean bezel front with a 16×2 characters display allows you to have an immediate view of each unit’s IP address or hostname, the current hashing power and the system temperature.

    Control unit based on Raspberry Pi board with ARM11 700MHz CPU, 512 MB RAM and 8GB flash storage.
    Custom Linux operating system with Web based interface for easy configuration without any command line skills needed.
    Front display with 16×2 characters.
    Proprietary PowerTune technology allows for both low power and high performance operation.
    From 1 to 5 modules of 200 GH/s each (nominal).
    Hashing speed in power-save mode of 150 / 300 / 450 / 600 / 750 GH/s.
    Hashing speed in turbo mode up to 300 / 600 / 900 / 1200 / 1500 GH/s.
    Total maximum power usage in power-save mode of 80 / 160 / 240 / 320 / 400 W.
    Total maximum power usage in turbo mode: 375 / 750 / 1125 / 1500 / 1875 W.
    Uses a standard ATX power supply.



I even don`t know an ATX-PSU with more than 1600W  Roll Eyes
Typically bitmine again - finally designed a product never can expect stated hashrate.
hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 500
Another question for those who've received their units:

Would I be right in thinking that the airflow is the standard of drawing in fresh air from the front and exhausting hot air from the back?



Roy --

Yep, that's right. Intake through the front grill and exhaust through the two fans in the back.

I strongly suggest adding a fan pulling air through the PSU or additional fans in front blowing in before overclocking; with the default fan setup my PSU gets too hot to touch in 20C ambient. Also, you really must run with the top lid on or the heatsinks are bypassed in the airflow.



Hmm, I wonder how plausible it might be to take the PSU out and run it entirely externally to the case, to avoid the airflow issues...  But your idea of adding fans in front probably makes more sense.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I don't want to trigger too much consternation, but this may be my 5-module unit's problem:


(which is why they don't sell the Platimax 1500W in the US)

I'll be able to try this on a 240v circuit in a few hours...

hmm 1500 watt?

Total maximum power usage in turbo mode: 375 / 750 / 1125 / 1500 / 1875 W.

not 1875 watt?

http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=893


Coincraft Desk is the product of natural evolution from our Generation 1 devices based on older Avalon’s chip. It offers the ultimate mining performances with highly scalable hashing power starting from 200 GH/s up to 1 TH/s in increments of 200 GH/s for each of the installed hashing modules.The clean bezel front with a 16×2 characters display allows you to have an immediate view of each unit’s IP address or hostname, the current hashing power and the system temperature.

    Control unit based on Raspberry Pi board with ARM11 700MHz CPU, 512 MB RAM and 8GB flash storage.
    Custom Linux operating system with Web based interface for easy configuration without any command line skills needed.
    Front display with 16×2 characters.
    Proprietary PowerTune technology allows for both low power and high performance operation.
    From 1 to 5 modules of 200 GH/s each (nominal).
    Hashing speed in power-save mode of 150 / 300 / 450 / 600 / 750 GH/s.
    Hashing speed in turbo mode up to 300 / 600 / 900 / 1200 / 1500 GH/s.
    Total maximum power usage in power-save mode of 80 / 160 / 240 / 320 / 400 W.
    Total maximum power usage in turbo mode: 375 / 750 / 1125 / 1500 / 1875 W.
    Uses a standard ATX power supply.
Pug
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E
full member
Activity: 234
Merit: 100
Just curious (hopefully not long before I find out for myself) but what kind of PSU did the 600GH unit come with?

Also how long was it between getting notification that your order was 'completed' and receiving tracking info?

Thanks

roy

The 3-module unit came with a Super Flower SF-1000P14XE (http://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=8&ID=62&lang=):



 90%+ efficiency and 83A of 12V. It works just fine on 120V; I'll have power draw numbers up later.

It was about 24 hours after my order went to "Complete" that I got tracking numbers.
E
full member
Activity: 234
Merit: 100
Another question for those who've received their units:

Would I be right in thinking that the airflow is the standard of drawing in fresh air from the front and exhausting hot air from the back?



Roy --

Yep, that's right. Intake through the front grill and exhaust through the two fans in the back.

I strongly suggest adding a fan pulling air through the PSU or additional fans in front blowing in before overclocking; with the default fan setup my PSU gets too hot to touch in 20C ambient. Also, you really must run with the top lid on or the heatsinks are bypassed in the airflow.

hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 500
Another question for those who've received their units:

Would I be right in thinking that the airflow is the standard of drawing in fresh air from the front and exhausting hot air from the back?

newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0

Thank you, will write to Bitmine to try to figure out when...
hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 500
I have two for "Feb 1st week delivery":
# 337x
# 353x



is that your queue or your ordee number??

if its your queue then you have a long wait
This is the order numbers (given in Bitmine emails). I wonder how can I know the queue number? (I saw on this forum lists of "queues" - where do people get them?)
I understand some early "Avalon" orders have priority. I wonder who is receiving miners now and how many a day/week?
Thank you, long-time-members, for clarifications!

People found out by by means of e-mail converstaions with Bitmine, at least in the early days.  I don't know if they are still giving this information out.

I haven't received my miner yet (nor tracking information) but I did get e-mail today that my order was 'complete', whatever that means.  I'm a reasonably early order - see the order list post.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
I have two for "Feb 1st week delivery":
# 337x
# 353x



is that your queue or your ordee number??

if its your queue then you have a long wait
This is the order numbers (given in Bitmine emails). I wonder how can I know the queue number? (I saw on this forum lists of "queues" - where do people get them?)
I understand some early "Avalon" orders have priority. I wonder who is receiving miners now and how many a day/week?
Thank you, long-time-members, for clarifications!
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