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Super, I tried this fixed thing too roller 4 * 100, first time was +5 other three was about -50 each. I tried this autoroll 2 years ago and than never used it again due to results like this. I will stay with my manual rolls.

I did a few more tests today using custom seeds generated on random.org and setting the max amount of rolls to 10 so I could go back and verify every single bet in my roll history. My overall winning percentage came close to 50%. I actually came out with a profit of 100 tokens because I got a bonus when I rolled 999. It is possible that the site could still be cheating you depending on how you play such as not independently generating a random client seed or setting the max roll amount higher than 10 so that it's impossible to audit your roll history. It could also be that people are losing tokens by flooding the site with too many requests that their servers can't properly handle. Running a gambling site requires significant resources and Coinpot's main focus is on their faucets so we will just have to deal with the limitations of the multiplier game but at the bare minimum there is some semblance of fairness, in my opinion.

i don't really understand
earlier you were complaining that you couldn't change the client seed for every roll (during auto-roll) which of course, doesn't really make sense - because then it wouldn't be automatic!
but now you seem to be happy that there is feature that you can fix the client seed so it always stays the same!!
aren't those opposites??

anyway i'm glad that you are finding it "fair" at the moment. but i wont be surprised if you are back here complaining that its a scam again next time you happen to lose  Roll Eyes


It seems you have comprehension issues. My complaint was that the seed was always changing. I wanted to be able to use a custom generated seed and have it fixed for every roll not just the initial roll. I never complained that I was losing, I know how gambling works. I've only ever complained about the verifiability of their fairness.
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Super, I tried this fixed thing too roller 4 * 100, first time was +5 other three was about -50 each. I tried this autoroll 2 years ago and than never used it again due to results like this. I will stay with my manual rolls.

I did a few more tests today using custom seeds generated on random.org and setting the max amount of rolls to 10 so I could go back and verify every single bet in my roll history. My overall winning percentage came close to 50%. I actually came out with a profit of 100 tokens because I got a bonus when I rolled 999. It is possible that the site could still be cheating you depending on how you play such as not independently generating a random client seed or setting the max roll amount higher than 10 so that it's impossible to audit your roll history. It could also be that people are losing tokens by flooding the site with too many requests that their servers can't properly handle. Running a gambling site requires significant resources and Coinpot's main focus is on their faucets so we will just have to deal with the limitations of the multiplier game but at the bare minimum there is some semblance of fairness, in my opinion.

i don't really understand
earlier you were complaining that you couldn't change the client seed for every roll (during auto-roll) which of course, doesn't really make sense - because then it wouldn't be automatic!
but now you seem to be happy that there is feature that you can fix the client seed so it always stays the same!!
aren't those opposites??

anyway i'm glad that you are finding it "fair" at the moment. but i wont be surprised if you are back here complaining that its a scam again next time you happen to lose  Roll Eyes
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Super, I tried this fixed thing too roller 4 * 100, first time was +5 other three was about -50 each. I tried this autoroll 2 years ago and than never used it again due to results like this. I will stay with my manual rolls.

I did a few more tests today using custom seeds generated on random.org and setting the max amount of rolls to 10 so I could go back and verify every single bet in my roll history. My overall winning percentage came close to 50%. I actually came out with a profit of 100 tokens because I got a bonus when I rolled 999. It is possible that the site could still be cheating you depending on how you play such as not independently generating a random client seed or setting the max roll amount higher than 10 so that it's impossible to audit your roll history. It could also be that people are losing tokens by flooding the site with too many requests that their servers can't properly handle. Running a gambling site requires significant resources and Coinpot's main focus is on their faucets so we will just have to deal with the limitations of the multiplier game but at the bare minimum there is some semblance of fairness, in my opinion.
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Today I noticed that they now allow you to have a fixed client seed for auto-rolls. This is great news, that they were so quick to take action after the issue was brought up.

I did a test of 100 rolls and won exactly 50% of them. The only downside is that now the rolls are even slower than usual.

Super, I tried this fixed thing too roller 4 * 100, first time was +5 other three was about -50 each. I tried this autoroll 2 years ago and than never used it again due to results like this. I will stay with my manual rolls.
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Today I noticed that they now allow you to have a fixed client seed for auto-rolls. This is great news, that they were so quick to take action after the issue was brought up.

I did a test of 100 rolls and won exactly 50% of them. The only downside is that now the rolls are even slower than usual.
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The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling

What's getting tedious is how you're always making excuses for CoinPot. Their multiplier is a total scam. "Provably fair" is a lie. They don't allow you to set your own custom seed for auto-rolls except for the first roll. They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house.

its provably fair - click on the Provably Fair button and it explains exactly how its calculated
unless they have somehow broken the hashing algorithm used by many dice/casino sites then there is no way it can be a scam
in that screen you can set the client seed for each roll, not just the first roll

"They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house."
how is the even possible?
they set the seed before you submit the roll - so the rolled number is basically set in stone at that point.
how do they know if you will roll high or low this time or change the x2/x10/etc multiplier?
if you think they are fixing it, then just do the opposite (i.e. choose high instead of low etc) and you will win!

sorry to be tedious, but you idiots all started it for fucks sake Grin
i'll defend coinpot and i'll defend freebitcoin because i know they are both honest, quality sites that are constantly attacked by knuckle-draggers on this forum

I know how 'provably fair' is supposed to work. I've even made my own verifiers for other websites such as FreeBitco.in's lambo lottery. Coinpot's provable fairness is very flawed due to the fact you can't set a persistent client seed when auto-roll is activated. If the client seed is constantly being switched on you then the only way to see what it is would be to click on the provably fair button before every roll which is impractical and impossible during auto-rolls. This means that the house can just choose a non-random client seed for you that will benefit them. Switching from high to low would only work on manual betting and I've never argued that manual betting is rigged. For automatic betting you have to stick with one side for the entire session until you've reached the desired amount of rolls. They of course know which side you're going to pick ahead of time in this case because it's set from the first roll.

 Cry
well you have kind of answered your own question there then
of course you cant manually change the client seed for every roll during AUTO-ROLL because then it wouldn't be automatic would it??
if you need that capability then turn off auto-roll and do manual rolling instead, for which it is possible
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The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling

What's getting tedious is how you're always making excuses for CoinPot. Their multiplier is a total scam. "Provably fair" is a lie. They don't allow you to set your own custom seed for auto-rolls except for the first roll. They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house.

its provably fair - click on the Provably Fair button and it explains exactly how its calculated
unless they have somehow broken the hashing algorithm used by many dice/casino sites then there is no way it can be a scam
in that screen you can set the client seed for each roll, not just the first roll

"They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house."
how is the even possible?
they set the seed before you submit the roll - so the rolled number is basically set in stone at that point.
how do they know if you will roll high or low this time or change the x2/x10/etc multiplier?
if you think they are fixing it, then just do the opposite (i.e. choose high instead of low etc) and you will win!

sorry to be tedious, but you idiots all started it for fucks sake Grin
i'll defend coinpot and i'll defend freebitcoin because i know they are both honest, quality sites that are constantly attacked by knuckle-draggers on this forum

I know how 'provably fair' is supposed to work. I've even made my own verifiers for other websites such as FreeBitco.in's lambo lottery. Coinpot's provable fairness is very flawed due to the fact you can't set a persistent client seed when auto-roll is activated. If the client seed is constantly being switched on you then the only way to see what it is would be to click on the provably fair button before every roll which is impractical and impossible during auto-rolls. This means that the house can just choose a non-random client seed for you that will benefit them. Switching from high to low would only work on manual betting and I've never argued that manual betting is rigged. For automatic betting you have to stick with one side for the entire session until you've reached the desired amount of rolls. They of course know which side you're going to pick ahead of time in this case because it's set from the first roll.
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You guys heard of the Monte Carlo fallacy? Back in 1913 when gamblers tried betting against black 26 times in a row, losing millions of Francs Grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy#Monte_Carlo_Casino

Same here, so there's nothing wrong if there are losing streaks.
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Activity: 338
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The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling

What's getting tedious is how you're always making excuses for CoinPot. Their multiplier is a total scam. "Provably fair" is a lie. They don't allow you to set your own custom seed for auto-rolls except for the first roll. They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house.

its provably fair - click on the Provably Fair button and it explains exactly how its calculated
unless they have somehow broken the hashing algorithm used by many dice/casino sites then there is no way it can be a scam
in that screen you can set the client seed for each roll, not just the first roll

"They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house."
how is the even possible?
they set the seed before you submit the roll - so the rolled number is basically set in stone at that point.
how do they know if you will roll high or low this time or change the x2/x10/etc multiplier?
if you think they are fixing it, then just do the opposite (i.e. choose high instead of low etc) and you will win!

sorry to be tedious, but you idiots all started it for fucks sake Grin
i'll defend coinpot and i'll defend freebitcoin because i know they are both honest, quality sites that are constantly attacked by knuckle-draggers on this forum
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Activity: 1680
Merit: 379
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The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling

What's getting tedious is how you're always making excuses for CoinPot. Their multiplier is a total scam. "Provably fair" is a lie. They don't allow you to set your own custom seed for auto-rolls except for the first roll. They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house.
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Activity: 338
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The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling
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The proof is right here:


(merge of my previous graph with the current one)

Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^



It is possible, because it happened.
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Right, it says unspent. Yes there is more than 1 confirmation so the coins should be in my wallet? However they are not in my wallet though…so where are they?

Which wallet did you use? If you used an exchange or custodial wallet your transaction might be too small for them to credit your account.

I used Trust Wallet. The same wallet as the first LTC withdrawal as well as the same address

I would suggest creating a ticket with Trust Wallet so they can help you figure out what happened. https://support.trustwallet.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Okay…I made a ticket. This is what I got in response. https://prntscr.com/u2fysj

Looks like one of those auto replies to me imo. I did get that email right after I submitted it…maybe this was sent because they are looking into it…idk hopefully this isn’t the end of the line and I just don’t end up receiving the coins
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Right, it says unspent. Yes there is more than 1 confirmation so the coins should be in my wallet? However they are not in my wallet though…so where are they?

Which wallet did you use? If you used an exchange or custodial wallet your transaction might be too small for them to credit your account.

I used Trust Wallet. The same wallet as the first LTC withdrawal as well as the same address

I would suggest creating a ticket with Trust Wallet so they can help you figure out what happened. https://support.trustwallet.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
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Right, it says unspent. Yes there is more than 1 confirmation so the coins should be in my wallet? However they are not in my wallet though…so where are they?

Which wallet did you use? If you used an exchange or custodial wallet your transaction might be too small for them to credit your account.

I used Trust Wallet. The same wallet as the first LTC withdrawal as well as the same address
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The proof is right here:


(merge of my previous graph with the current one)

Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^

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I roll with 20 or 25 taps open every day.
Autoroll on, 1 token stake.

I don't do i for the win or lose factor but for the challenges.
100.000 rolls a day gets me around 2000 tokens a day.
some days are better then others.

And you get free lottery tickets every day. Around 1000.

That's what I used to do too, I've done it for months. And I've withdrawn about 1000000 sats since I registered to this site, without ever depositing anything.

But let's look at what I would've won today, had I rolled 100000 times:
-100 tokens after 160 rolls: at this ratio, that makes -62500 tokens after 100000 rolls.
Let's add the 2100 tokens I would have won thanks to the challenge: -62500 + 2100 = -60400 tokens

Thanks but no thanks... ^^

and where is the proof?
seriously, one minute you say you are taking millions of sats out of coinpot
the next minute you claim its all a scam and you are losing with the multiplier all the time  Grin
obviously if that was true, only a fool would continue doing it every day
now its just tedious for everyone to see your whining on here  Roll Eyes
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I roll with 20 or 25 taps open every day.
Autoroll on, 1 token stake.

I don't do i for the win or lose factor but for the challenges.
100.000 rolls a day gets me around 2000 tokens a day.
some days are better then others.

And you get free lottery tickets every day. Around 1000.

That's what I used to do too, I've done it for months. And I've withdrawn about 1000000 sats since I registered to this site, without ever depositing anything.

But let's look at what I would've won today, had I rolled 100000 times:
-100 tokens after 160 rolls: at this ratio, that makes -62500 tokens after 100000 rolls.
Let's add the 2100 tokens I would have won thanks to the challenge: -62500 + 2100 = -60400 tokens

Thanks but no thanks... ^^
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I roll with 20 or 25 taps open every day.
Autoroll on, 1 token stake.

I don't do i for the win or lose factor but for the challenges.
100.000 rolls a day gets me around 2000 tokens a day.
some days are better then others.

And you get free lottery tickets every day. Around 1000.
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-100 tokens after 220 rolls!
New world record!  Cool

Stats on my 169 last rolls:
- 140 losses
- 29 wins
= 83 % loss ratio

Winning streak: 2 (LOL)
Losing streak: 14 (3 times)

0 % house edge!
Yeah... Right...  Roll Eyes

-100 tokens after 160 rolls!  Cool Cool Cool

Stats on my 167 last rolls:
- 133 losses
- 34 wins
= 80 % loss ratio

Winning streak: 1 (LOOOOL)
Losing streak: 20  Cheesy

I'm gonna get a "0 % house edge" tatoo on my arm.

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Why do you keep playing if you say it's rigged?
Cause I'm loving it! Tongue
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