[Unofficial] New Global Moderator Election - [Discussion] - page 8.

Joel_Jantsen

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Get your game girl

Quote from: botany on November 20, 2016, 02:57:47 AM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on November 20, 2016, 02:53:27 AM

Okay,this is getting a bit off track.All the accounts from Philippines have put Dabs as their primary choice and since he is from Philippines too,you can establish the coincidences.Nothing wrong with it but if at all the Global Mod is chosen on the basis of number of votes,this isn't really a fair judgement.

P.S. Forgive me if I missed anything in this thread since I haven't been reading all the posts.

It won't be chosen just on the basis of the number of votes. Theymos will have to take a view.
In any case, each contestant will have his own set of backers.

Well,dissolves the entire point of keeping an election.Might as well one could have sent the list to theymos and he would choose one after doing his homework but anyway...

botany

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on November 20, 2016, 02:53:27 AM

Okay,this is getting a bit off track.All the accounts from Philippines have put Dabs as their primary choice and since he is from Philippines too,you can establish the coincidences.Nothing wrong with it but if at all the Global Mod is chosen on the basis of number of votes,this isn't really a fair judgement.

P.S. Forgive me if I missed anything in this thread since I haven't been reading all the posts.

It won't be chosen just on the basis of the number of votes. Theymos will have to take a view.
In any case, each contestant will have his own set of backers.

Joel_Jantsen

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Get your game girl

Okay,this is getting a bit off track.All the accounts from Philippines have put Dabs as their primary choice and since he is from Philippines too,you can establish the coincidences.Nothing wrong with it but if at all the Global Mod is chosen on the basis of number of votes,this isn't really a fair judgement.

P.S. Forgive me if I missed anything in this thread since I haven't been reading all the posts.

Lauda

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Terminated.

Quote from: botany on November 20, 2016, 02:17:06 AM

The votes that you have got could be a result of your action on Bitmixer. Wink

That is also a possibility.

Quote from: botany on November 20, 2016, 02:17:06 AM

Bitmixer participants have been spamming the hell out of this forum. That said, people should not be confusing your actions as a campaign manager, with your actions as a staff member.

People tend to confuse all kinds of action around here, e.g. staff, campaign manager, trust system. The campaign was horrible, and there were a lot of people that needed permanent bans right there (blatant 1 liner abusers). At least it is now spam free.

botany

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Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 02:10:06 AM

Quote from: Foxpup on November 19, 2016, 11:00:28 PM

The results so far after preferences:

Two candidate preferred vote:
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Lauda (44.1%) ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓██▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ (55.9%) Mitchell
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Lauda: 26
Mitchell: 33
Exhausted: 1

Nice visual representation. Thanks! Maybe I should have thought twice before banning so many people from Bitmixer. Cheesy

The votes that you have got could be a result of your action on Bitmixer. Wink

Bitmixer participants have been spamming the hell out of this forum.
That said, people should not be confusing your actions as a campaign manager, with your actions as a staff member.

Lauda

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Terminated.

Quote from: Foxpup on November 19, 2016, 11:00:28 PM

The results so far after preferences:

Two candidate preferred vote:
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Lauda (44.1%) ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓██▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ (55.9%) Mitchell
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Lauda: 26
Mitchell: 33
Exhausted: 1

Nice visual representation. Thanks! Maybe I should have thought twice before banning so many people from Bitmixer. Cheesy

Quote from: botany on November 20, 2016, 02:07:56 AM

I understood your first sentence and nothing more. Huh

I have the same problem with that post.

botany

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Quote from: lottery248 on November 19, 2016, 11:46:48 PM

IMO we should be able to vote non-staff members if we wish, because the selection would be too limited if we could not vote them. IIRC the people who are promoted to be a staff is probably from the opinion mainly from the higher position. even this could result in the mass registration of election, at least it could decrease the suspicion of biased nomination.

if we neither could vote for our loyal representative, join the nomination freely, nor if the number of votings could reflect what the majority are expecting for, including the balancing of the minorities, the result could possibly result in staff system disaster.

one more thing, global moderators elected are responsible to the happenings more than what we are required to address, not only monitoring the site.

I understood your first sentence and nothing more. Huh

This is a vote for global moderators and hence only active staff members have been nominated.

lottery248

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beware of your keys.

IMO we should be able to vote non-staff members if we wish, because the selection would be too limited if we could not vote them. IIRC the people who are promoted to be a staff is probably from the opinion mainly from the higher position. even this could result in the mass registration of election, at least it could decrease the suspicion of biased nomination.

if we neither could vote for our loyal representative, join the nomination freely, nor if the number of votings could reflect what the majority are expecting for, including the balancing of the minorities, the result could possibly result in staff system disaster.

one more thing, global moderators elected are responsible to the happenings more than what we are required to address, not only monitoring the site.

Foxpup

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Quote from: achow101 on November 19, 2016, 11:06:03 PM

So this is what the results would be after doing the elimination process?

Yes.

Quote from: achow101 on November 19, 2016, 11:06:03 PM

What is "Exhausted"?

Votes that didn't count because they had no preference for the top candidates (ie, every candidate they did have a preference for was eliminated). This situation is impossible in full preferential voting (where each vote must rank all the candidates) but we didn't do that, so some votes are bound to be "wasted" this way (though not nearly as many as in a FPTP election).

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: achow101 on November 19, 2016, 11:06:03 PM

So this is what the results would be after doing the elimination process? What is "Exhausted"?

I would guess those are valid votes that have neither Lauda nor Mitchell in their 3 picks. So far, there's only 1 of them.

Quote from: izanagi narukami on November 19, 2016, 04:18:16 AM

1. mprep https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mprep-51173
2. Dabs https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dabs-54791
3. Adriano https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/adriano-112568

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: Foxpup on November 19, 2016, 11:00:28 PM

The results so far after preferences:

Two candidate preferred vote:
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Lauda (44.1%) ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓██▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ (55.9%) Mitchell
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Lauda: 26
Mitchell: 33
Exhausted: 1

Although the primary votes are nearly evenly split between Lauda and Mitchell, Mitchell edges ahead on strong preferences from achow101's supporters. Dabs' supporters are a bit more evenly split, but still lean towards Mitchell. It's still a tight race with Lauda trailing by just 7 votes in this epic election which may or not end up making any difference whatsoever. Grin

So this is what the results would be after doing the elimination process? What is "Exhausted"?

Foxpup

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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023

The results so far after preferences:

Two candidate preferred vote:
|
Lauda (44.1%) ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓██▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ (55.9%) Mitchell
|
Lauda: 26
Mitchell: 33
Exhausted: 1

Although the primary votes are nearly evenly split between Lauda and Mitchell, Mitchell edges ahead on strong preferences from achow101's supporters. Dabs' supporters are a bit more evenly split, but still lean towards Mitchell. It's still a tight race with Lauda trailing by just 7 votes in this epic election which may or not end up making any difference whatsoever. Grin

chixka000

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Quote from: Lauda on November 19, 2016, 04:39:37 PM

Read the fine print:

Quote from: achow101 on November 18, 2016, 07:40:28 PM

Disclaimer
This is not an official election. The winner is not guaranteed to be promoted to Global Moderator, however he/she will be suggested to theymos to be promoted. This is only to determine who the community wants as a Global Moderator. Theymos may choose to promote the winner of this election, he also may not. He may choose to promote no one, he may choose to promote someone else.

Well, that does make more sense. If Theymos won't promote any of the participants who won the election, I still am pretty sure that he would at least able to consider the needs of a new active mod and find someone else he could.

EDIT: i am trying to think if someone would be promoted to global mods the staff position would be lacking

HostFat

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I support freedom of choice

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For what it count, I agree on what you are saying

I think that paid signature schemes should be banned, and even discovered services doing this on backstage, even them should be banned. (at least for a month)

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: Foxpup on November 19, 2016, 09:56:52 PM

Are we allowed to comment on the ongoing TCP count and trends in preference flows? Theoretically it's public knowledge, but people may be too lazy to count preferences on their own and could conceivably be influenced if someone does it for them.

Sure.

Foxpup

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Are we allowed to comment on the ongoing TCP count and trends in preference flows? Theoretically it's public knowledge, but people may be too lazy to count preferences on their own and could conceivably be influenced if someone does it for them.

Lauda

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Terminated.

Quote from: dogie on November 19, 2016, 07:28:11 PM

Quote from: minifrij on November 19, 2016, 05:52:00 PM

If theymos doesn't approve, he could simply not acknowledge the vote whatsoever and pick (or not pick) based on his own accord. It would be a let down, of course, but the vote will just be used to perhaps help in the decision.

This is the part that worries me because it's creating a default bias that unless Theymos objects that this should go through, which is the opposite order.

I actually think quite the opposite as I do not expect theymos to act based on these votes (alone or even just primarily).

Quote from: Vod on November 19, 2016, 07:48:02 PM

I'm not voting. Even though it's not official, it can be used in the future against me to imply bias or favoritism.

That's a fair point. I think the best that we could do post-election is to *archive* the thread into the trashcan section. However, someone could still archive your vote in the meantime to use it against you at a later date. That said, I wouldn't understand someone using their vote against them (this in particular).

criptix

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Quote from: Vod on November 19, 2016, 07:48:02 PM

I'm not voting. Even though it's not official, it can be used in the future against me to imply bias or favoritism.

I'll support whoever Theymos may (or may not) select.

Your favourite is clearly theymos... smart one Tongue

Vod

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I'm not voting. Even though it's not official, it can be used in the future against me to imply bias or favoritism.

I'll support whoever Theymos may (or may not) select.

dogie

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Quote from: minifrij on November 19, 2016, 05:52:00 PM

If theymos doesn't approve, he could simply not acknowledge the vote whatsoever and pick (or not pick) based on his own accord. It would be a let down, of course, but the vote will just be used to perhaps help in the decision.

This is the part that worries me because it's creating a default bias that unless Theymos objects that this should go through, which is the opposite order.

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