[Unofficial] New Global Moderator Election - [Discussion] - page 6.

Lauda

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 06:09:35 PM

Why delete your post altogether? Is this vote only for English-speaking, full members and above? Shouldn't there be a post in all the other local language boards?

Quote from: achow101 on November 18, 2016, 07:40:28 PM

Rules:

No Electioneering. This means that you cannot campaign for a candidate in order to get more people to vote for him. Any user found to be electioneering will have their vote disregarded. Any candidate who is electioneering will be removed from the ballot.

Which ends up people ignoring the following rule (as I had predicted earlier):

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If you are not familiar with the forum, the moderators, and the forum rules, do not vote,

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Quote from: HostFat on November 20, 2016, 04:52:39 PM

I removed the line

"Potete votare anche per me, se volete Cheesy

"

In english means

"You can vote even for me, if you want Cheesy

"

I can delete all the post if you prefer.

EDIT:
Removed.

Why delete your post altogether? Is this vote only for English-speaking, full members and above?
Shouldn't there be a post in all the other local language boards?

Lauda

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 06:05:15 PM

Okay, wait. This is not what I was talking about! In his own words, Achow101 forgot to include one of the staff. I'm saying we need to ensure no person is left behind before proceeding. If a mod is not logging in regularly, that's a totally different story and not what I was originally concerned about.

The PM had to be split off into two due to number of participants limit. Hostfat seems to have been in the middle and did not end up getting a PM. I'm sure achow101 double checked later that everyone else got their PM.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 06:05:15 PM

You're probably right.

It's not a big issue since it was tackled early (it would be if it were official though).

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Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 04:35:00 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 04:27:07 PM

Sure. I don't believe the situation is so dire that we can't take the time to do it properly.

Choosing someone who's partly inactive or semi-active when the need for a active global moderator arises is counter-intuitive.

Okay, wait. This is not what I was talking about! In his own words, Achow101 forgot to include one of the staff. I'm saying we need to ensure no person is left behind before proceeding. If a mod is not logging in regularly, that's a totally different story and not what I was originally concerned about.

Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 04:35:00 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 04:27:07 PM

This remedy still requires all who already voted to notice there was a change and I doubt people are going to keep checking the thread when it bumps since that happens every time there is a vote.

There's plenty of time to fix your vote. I'm pretty sure that the error rate would be marginal in the end.

You're probably right.

HostFat

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I support freedom of choice

I removed the line

"Potete votare anche per me, se volete Cheesy

"

In english means

"You can vote even for me, if you want Cheesy

"

I can delete all the post if you prefer.

EDIT:
Removed.

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: Lutpin on November 20, 2016, 04:35:08 PM

Would this[1] count as electioneering or is it still considered an "informative" post?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1687427

It's borderline electioneering. I will ask hostfat to remove that post as it is introducing a lot of bias into the voting (a lot of people have voted only hostfat). It kind of implies "you should vote for me" though, so... What do you all think?

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 04:27:07 PM

Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 04:06:29 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Now that it has come to light that a candidate was overlooked for this election, you should really lock this thread (or delete it), begin a proper nomination thread for potential candidates with a cut-off date a few weeks into the future so that everyone has an equitable opportunity to be acknowledged.

So we should wait a few weeks for a potential next (active) global moderator to respond to a PM?

Sure. I don't believe the situation is so dire that we can't take the time to do it properly.

The point is, when searching someone who can in the best case be active on a daily basis handling reports on global level,
candidates that aren't abled to respond to a PM in a weeks time kinda already fall out of the pool by that.

Would this[1] count as electioneering or is it still considered an "informative" post?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1687427

Lauda

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 04:27:07 PM

Sure. I don't believe the situation is so dire that we can't take the time to do it properly.

Choosing someone who's partly inactive or semi-active when the need for a active global moderator arises is counter-intuitive.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on November 20, 2016, 04:27:07 PM

This remedy still requires all who already voted to notice there was a change and I doubt people are going to keep checking the thread when it bumps since that happens every time there is a vote.

There's plenty of time to fix your vote. I'm pretty sure that the error rate would be marginal in the end.

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Thanks for moving this - didn't realize there was a discussion thread.

Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 04:06:29 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Now that it has come to light that a candidate was overlooked for this election, you should really lock this thread (or delete it), begin a proper nomination thread for potential candidates with a cut-off date a few weeks into the future so that everyone has an equitable opportunity to be acknowledged.

So we should wait a few weeks for a potential next (active) global moderator to respond to a PM?

Sure. I don't believe the situation is so dire that we can't take the time to do it properly.

Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 04:06:29 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I realize that this election isn't formal but that should not be an excuse to perform it in a half-assed manner.

No. The mistake happened and HostFat noticed it himself. That said, he also agreed that adding him now with the option of changing your vote is better than the alternative (which would be to start all over again).

This remedy still requires all who already voted to notice there was a change and I doubt people are going to keep checking the thread when it bumps since that happens every time there is a vote.

Lauda

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Well, if you prefer that I don't mind it either. It would cause a bit more confusion and would definitely lead to some conscious and subconscious vote shifting based, but I guess that's fine. I'm not sure what others think about this?

HostFat

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I support freedom of choice

To me is even ok to restart the voting again, I mean it's good for my personal interest Cheesy

But I'm not pushing for it, you can do what you prefers.

Lauda

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Now that it has come to light that a candidate was overlooked for this election, you should really lock this thread (or delete it), begin a proper nomination thread for potential candidates with a cut-off date a few weeks into the future so that everyone has an equitable opportunity to be acknowledged.

So we should wait a few weeks for a potential next (active) global moderator to respond to a PM?

Quote from: ?? on ??

I realize that this election isn't formal but that should not be an excuse to perform it in a half-assed manner.

No. The mistake happened and HostFat noticed it himself. That said, he also agreed that adding him now with the option of changing your vote is better than the alternative (which would be to start all over again).

deisik

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on November 20, 2016, 04:02:11 AM

Quote from: chixka000 on November 20, 2016, 03:41:52 AM

FYI, in the first place we were given the freedom to vote and i doubt if you don't want somebody which you know better than anyone else to be elected.

No,this is where you cunts get it all wrong.It's not about voting for somebody you know,it's about voting for someone who deserves to be a Global Moderator.To decide,to should know what the responsibilities of the GM's are and wheather the person you vote has the abilities/time/efforts to put in.If you have no idea about the remaining mods in the list,you shouldn't be voting in the first place

Personally, I don't think this election makes sense altogether since it is like letting sheep choose their shepherd. A new global moderator (or just moderator, for that matter) should be chosen exclusively by those who understand which qualification and skills are actually required for the job, and who can objectively decide if the applicant fully satisfies these requirements. That would be called meritocracy if you please...

Otherwise, one billion flies cannot be wrong

Quote from: Lutpin on November 20, 2016, 01:13:28 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2016, 10:33:07 AM

Quote from: Vod on November 20, 2016, 07:01:48 AM

The name is close to the feminine "Laura", which is why people confuse it.

Lauda is a female name itself in many European countries, mostly in Italy, if I'm not mistaken. And believe me, her posts give her away instantly.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lauda&defid=4520051

https://www.facebook.com/lauda.freitas.7
https://www.facebook.com/lauda.cardoso
https://www.facebook.com/souza.lauda
https://www.facebook.com/lauda.marinho
https://www.facebook.com/laudabruna.lourencooliveira

Which is Lauda? I opt for the first

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: mexxer-2 on November 20, 2016, 04:30:05 AM

Lastly, I do not see a reason for another Global mod. AFAIK the last promotion happened as other Glob. mods were not as active and Cyrus already had some experience in moderating multiple boards.

Wanna show me the rock you've been living under the last half year?

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2016, 10:33:07 AM

Quote from: Vod on November 20, 2016, 07:01:48 AM

The name is close to the feminine "Laura", which is why people confuse it.

Lauda is a female name itself in many European countries, mostly in Italy, if I'm not mistaken. And believe me, her posts give her away instantly.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lauda&defid=4520051

Quote from: achow101 on November 20, 2016, 10:52:55 AM

Quote from: criptix on November 20, 2016, 10:07:51 AM

My choice was mostly based on personal interactions with you two and how you are solving problems as mods.

That's how most people who are voting decide how to vote. That's probably why most of the Phillipines people voted for Dabs; he is the one that they have interacted with before.

I've voted for Mitchell over Lauda, even though I got more moderation-related interaction with Lauda and should thus by this reasoning select Lauda.
I don't think I came in contact with you about moderation any more than you handling some of my newbie reports, yet you can find you on my list aswell.

deisik

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Quote from: achow101 on November 20, 2016, 10:52:55 AM

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2016, 04:24:08 AM

You may choose to disagree, of course, but from the thread title it is not clear altogether. On the contrary, it looks exactly like theymos blessed the election of the new team of global moderators. In fact, there are even two such threads which even further strengthens this feeling of official consent and blessing...

How about now? I added [Unofficial] to the title.

Much better now!

Since I haven't actively interacted with anyone from the list of candidates and cannot objectively judge their qualities as would-be global moderators, I guess I should refrain from casting my vote altogether. Other than that, I looked through the Google spreadsheet and noticed that everyone should choose exactly three candidates. I don't think it is a good idea, either. I strongly suspect that many Bitcointalk members might not be very familiar with any of the candidates but only with one, maybe two of them

achow101

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Quote from: jamalaezaz on November 20, 2016, 11:48:08 AM

now. what does this unofficial mean? is it because you guys doing all this without theymos agreement?

Yes.

Quote from: jamalaezaz on November 20, 2016, 11:48:08 AM

I want to see theymos or Cyrus to confirm that they will follow the result of this election.

They will not. There is no guarantee that any of the admins will promote a Global Moderator based upon the outcome of this election. Read the disclaimer I wrote at the bottom of the voting thread.

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now. what does this unofficial mean? is it because you guys doing all this without theymos agreement?
I want to see theymos or Cyrus to confirm that they will follow the result of this election.

achow101

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Important Update: I mistakenly forgot HostFat so he has been added to the ballot. If you voted prior to this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16935051, you may change your vote ONCE to include HostFat if you wish to vote for him. If you do change your vote, the time of the edit will be noted and no further edits are allowed.

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2016, 04:24:08 AM

You may choose to disagree, of course, but from the thread title it is not clear altogether. On the contrary, it looks exactly like theymos blessed the election of the new team of global moderators. In fact, there are even two such threads which even further strengthens this feeling of official consent and blessing...

How about now? I added [Unofficial] to the title.

Quote from: criptix on November 20, 2016, 10:07:51 AM

My choice was mostly based on personal interactions with you two and how you are solving problems as mods.

That's how most people who are voting decide how to vote. That's probably why most of the Phillipines people voted for Dabs; he is the one that they have interacted with before.

The people who moderate the main sections of the forum are probably the ones who will get the most votes because people just happen to interact with them more as they moderate the main sections. Mprep will probably get votes from altcoiners since he moderates the altcoin section and thus altcoiners interact with him more.

Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 10:17:44 AM

Interestingly, no staff member has voted yet.

Probably something to do with conflict of interest. I will not be voting because of potential conflict of interest since I created the thread and am on the ballot.

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Quote from: Lauda on November 20, 2016, 10:17:44 AM

Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning your decision. Mitchell is an excellent choice.

All the candidates are excellent, in my opinion. There's no choosing the lesser evil in this election. It's a refreshing change.

deisik

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 20, 2016, 06:55:43 AM

Quote from: botany on November 20, 2016, 02:17:06 AM

The votes that you have got could be a result of your action on Bitmixer. Wink

Bitmixer participants have been spamming the hell out of this forum.

I mainly "know" Lauda from the stop-the-spam-topic leading up to the decision that made her campaign manager. And indeed, the spam-fighting is why I choose him/her^*

That was my thread about proactive fighting with spam

Quote from: Vod on November 20, 2016, 07:01:48 AM

The name is close to the feminine "Laura", which is why people confuse it.

Lauda is a female name itself in many European countries, mostly in Italy, if I'm not mistaken. And believe me, her posts give her away instantly. But this is off-topic, though she obviously likes it when this question is raised again and again. I would love that too if I were a woman, lol (just in case, I ain't). Regarding the elections themselves, if we really can call them so, the question looks more like about choosing only one new global moderator...

Otherwise, I don't see any sense as to why there seems to be so much ado about this matter across Meta

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